Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 computers these days have processors operating at speeds which are in the radio frequency range, and parts generally need to be shielded from radiating their own interference or being susceptible to outside interference so they're shielded to varying extents, which should account for most of it. the mouse itself might not be well shielded. that's my guess. don't get to feeling to comfortably protected though, better safe than sorry! > RIFE AND COMPUTERS > > > After over a year, and after talking to some tech-types at the recent rife > conference, I just worked up the guts to bring the coil of my high powered > magpulser next to my laptop and hey- no effect! I was afraid it > would erase > the harddrive, and I still don't understand why it doesn't. My > GB4000 makes > the mouse go crazy and unusable, but did no damage. Does anyone understand > the parameters of what damages computers in the way of rife > machines/ all my > love, lee > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi LEE, A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it anywhere near the laptop. It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) internal power supplies that may do major damage. A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your laptop is still working. Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... LD> After over a year, and after talking to some tech-types at the recent rife LD> conference, I just worked up the guts to bring the coil of my high powered LD> magpulser next to my laptop and hey- no effect! I was afraid it would erase LD> the harddrive, and I still don't understand why it doesn't. My GB4000 makes LD> the mouse go crazy and unusable, but did no damage. Does anyone understand LD> the parameters of what damages computers in the way of rife machines/ all my LD> love, lee LD> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Bill advice should be followed. However, we have place the helix vortex within a foot of the computers hard drive, and even an MSD blaster coil within 8 inches and run for 100 hours with no problem. Having said that though I still would heed Bills advice. We only did this to test the limits of what people might do with our devices under the worst possible scenario. It should be noted that we have withnessed the destuction of a motheboard on a computer when using a cordless mouse in connection with an EMEM plasma device. This has not happened consitently, but we do not advise ever using a cordless mouse while running a plasma system. Mike www.truerife.com Bil Green wrote: Hi LEE, A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it anywhere near the laptop. It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) internal power supplies that may do major damage. A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your laptop is still working. Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... LD> After over a year, and after talking to some tech-types at the recent rife LD> conference, I just worked up the guts to bring the coil of my high powered LD> magpulser next to my laptop and hey- no effect! I was afraid it would erase LD> the harddrive, and I still don't understand why it doesn't. My GB4000 makes LD> the mouse go crazy and unusable, but did no damage. Does anyone understand LD> the parameters of what damages computers in the way of rife machines/ all my LD> love, lee LD> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi, 2 possibilities. 1. It is only 1000 Gauss or less. Ferrites saturation is 5000 to 6000 Gauss typically. 1000 Gauss (1Kilo Gauss is not so high to cause damage to HDD if kept 12 " away. Normal laminations can go max 20 KGauss typically. 2. Or the mag pulser is not working. Make it work & bring it near laptop to damage HDD. Bil Green wrote: > Hi LEE, > > A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an > area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If > the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it > anywhere near the laptop. > > It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) > internal power supplies that may do major damage. > > A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I > use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. > > Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss > field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 > magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally > tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your > laptop is still working. > > Bil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi, Could it still damage the computer if the computer is turned off and unplugged? Josh Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > Hi LEE, > > A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an > area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If > the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it > anywhere near the laptop. > > It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) > internal power supplies that may do major damage. > > A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I > use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. > > Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss > field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 > magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally > tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your > laptop is still working. > > Bil > > PC 1000 > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator > http://magpulser.com > Mammoth Lakes, CA > > > mailto:magpulser@... > > LD> After over a year, and after talking to some tech-types at the recent > rife > LD> conference, I just worked up the guts to bring the coil of my high > powered > LD> magpulser next to my laptop and hey- no effect! I was afraid it would > erase > LD> the harddrive, and I still don't understand why it doesn't. My GB4000 > makes > LD> the mouse go crazy and unusable, but did no damage. Does anyone > understand > LD> the parameters of what damages computers in the way of rife machines/ > all my > LD> love, lee > > > > > > > LD> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ....yeah, at the least by possibly messing with data on the hard drive. > Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > > > Hi, > > Could it still damage the computer if the computer is turned off and > unplugged? > > Josh > > Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > > > > Hi LEE, > > > > A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an > > area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If > > the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it > > anywhere near the laptop. > > > > It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) > > internal power supplies that may do major damage. > > > > A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I > > use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. > > > > Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss > > field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 > > magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally > > tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your > > laptop is still working. > > > > Bil > > > > PC 1000 > > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator > > http://magpulser.com > > Mammoth Lakes, CA > > > > > > mailto:magpulser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 ....oftentimes the wired mouse can be left plugged into the mouse port while the cordless plugs into USB (most newer ones) & they're both always usable. older cordless mice can want a mouse port though. > -----Original Message----- It's a bit of trouble to plug in the wired mouse > when the tube is fired up if you're using your PC to generate the > frequencies. > > Bil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hi, Even with PC off, possibility of damage to CMOS chips can't be ruled out. Electrostatic breakdowns would be the cause. =================================== Josh wrote: > Hi, > > Could it still damage the computer if the computer is turned off and > unplugged? > > Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hi, Part of the research. For benefit of others. To find out & issue " Warning " to observe so much distance. He sure will use old HDDs for tests. ================================ Bil Green wrote: > Hi medmidas, > > He should try to damage the hard drive? > > Bil > > PC 1000 > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator > http://magpulser.com > Mammoth Lakes, CA > > > mailto:magpulser@... > > m> Hi, > m> 2 possibilities. > m> 1. It is only 1000 Gauss or less. Ferrites saturation is 5000 to 6000 > m> Gauss typically. > m> 1000 Gauss (1Kilo Gauss is not so high to cause damage to HDD if kept > m> 12 " away. > m> Normal laminations can go max 20 KGauss typically. > m> 2. Or the mag pulser is not working. Make it work & bring it near laptop > m> to damage HDD. > > m> Bil Green wrote: > >>> Hi LEE, >>> >>> A strong enough magnetic field will erase the hard drive (even an >>> area of the disks which will permanently damage the drive). If >>> the coil produces a very strong magnetic field I wouldn't get it >>> anywhere near the laptop. >>> >>> It could also cause a spike in the laptop's (or other device) >>> internal power supplies that may do major damage. >>> >>> A plasma tube can also damage computers if placed too close. I >>> use my EMEM at around 6 feet from my PC. >>> >>> Some companies claim that their magpulser produces a 50,000 Gauss >>> field. This would certainly be damaging to a hard drive. So far 1 >>> magpulser which claims 50,000 gauss has been professionally >>> tested and found to have only ~1000 Gauss. This may be why your >>> laptop is still working. >>> >>> Bil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yep, true. He won't do it on useful laptops. If U visited the store named " Halted " in CA, there are open racks outside the store, where dumped items are kept. U can quote yr price & lift it. It is day to day luck, sometimes you get good useful things, which U can afford to damage. Then one can use such items for research to formulate safe distance etc. One may have to damage many things before arriving at safe values. Don't U worry, all part of research. ======================================== Bil Green wrote: > Hi medmidas, > > This could also damage the power supply and/or related circuits > by interfering with the oscillation of the high speed switching > transformers (if the magnetic field is strong enough). The result > could be a dead laptop. > > Bil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 --- Bil Green wrote: <snip> > There's also the E-field (electrostatic energy) and > the so-called > " plasma wave " that is said to go through concrete. > BTW, how was > this determined if this energy has not been > discovered? > Plasma waves are not something that has not been discovered. There are books on the subject; very complicated stuff. It would be nice if there were a plasma physicist who could explain the specifics of how the field of plasma physics applies the the various plasma tube devices. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi , I was actually referring to the so-called Rife effect which some people refer to as some sort of plasma wave. Isn't this " effect " not yet discovered? Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... JR> --- Bil Green wrote: JR> <snip> >> There's also the E-field (electrostatic energy) and >> the so-called >> " plasma wave " that is said to go through concrete. >> BTW, how was >> this determined if this energy has not been >> discovered? >> JR> Plasma waves are not something that has not been JR> discovered. There are books on the subject; very JR> complicated stuff. It would be nice if there were a JR> plasma physicist who could explain the specifics of JR> how the field of plasma physics applies the the JR> various plasma tube devices. JR> Regards, JR> JR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 --- Bil Green wrote: > Hi , > > I was actually referring to the so-called Rife > effect which some > people refer to as some sort of plasma wave. Isn't > this " effect " > not yet discovered? > Since nobody has truly and properly replicated the so-called " Rife effect " , which to me is synonymous with " MOR effect " , we're not really in a position to say what it is. We can speculate all we want, but only after we properly reproduce the effect will we be able to analyze and pinpoint what it is. It may very well turn out to be something that is known and understood by science. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi Bil, I had always thought the Rife Effect was the response people experience when using plasma transmitters. But it seems as discussed here it is a property of the waves being broadcast by plasma transmitters, not the response people have with the transmitters. As the Rife Effect can happen with one plasma transmitter, then this would denote it is not connected to scalar waves which require two plasma transmitters. When people with Lyme, and sometimes cancer, and especially herpes, and to a lesser degree candida experience a hit frequency, their eye's can water up and goose bumps jump out on the skin, and there is usually intense sensations at the site of infection, then this is what I have always thought of as the Rife Effect. Many times the fascia releases during these responses, it is like it is all linked together. You can understand why people call it a miracle healing, it's like the force of God working on the diseased site and the change in the body can be great. Could the Rife Effect be linked to God and the Spiritual Energies ? ... it seems to be just as mysterious. People with cancer I have observed only get tingles at the site of the cancer and don't have the huge response say someone with Lyme has. Herpes is usually a good one to see this happening, because the infection site is clearly visible on the skin and the reactions and feelings happen all around this site. This says a lot about the truth of this study. Responses to plasma transmitters seems to be more intense than responses to contact systems, although I have not used a contact system anywhere near as much as I have used my plasma transmitter. I just haven't had one before to use. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp - FDS Re: Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > Hi , > > I was actually referring to the so-called Rife effect which some > people refer to as some sort of plasma wave. Isn't this " effect " > not yet discovered? > > Bil > > PC 1000 > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator > http://magpulser.com > Mammoth Lakes, CA > > > mailto:magpulser@... > > > JR> --- Bil Green wrote: > > JR> <snip> >>> There's also the E-field (electrostatic energy) and >>> the so-called >>> " plasma wave " that is said to go through concrete. >>> BTW, how was >>> this determined if this energy has not been >>> discovered? >>> > > > JR> Plasma waves are not something that has not been > JR> discovered. There are books on the subject; very > JR> complicated stuff. It would be nice if there were a > JR> plasma physicist who could explain the specifics of > JR> how the field of plasma physics applies the the > JR> various plasma tube devices. > > JR> Regards, > > > JR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi Ken, I don't understand your comment about scalar waves and plasma transmitters. Why do you say that scalar waves require two transmitters? It is my suspicion that scalar (longitudinal) waves emitted by a frequency-driven plasma may be a primary mechanism by which energy is transmitted from a plasma to a person or other living creature, who then experiences the " Rife effect " as you described. In such a scenario it seems like only a single plasma-based frequency emitter would be required for production of scalar waves. Warren Rekow Hi Bil, I had always thought the Rife Effect was the response people experience when using plasma transmitters. But it seems as discussed here it is a property of the waves being broadcast by plasma transmitters, not the response people have with the transmitters. As the Rife Effect can happen with one plasma transmitter, then this would denote it is not connected to scalar waves which require two plasma transmitters. <clip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi Warren, Several months back on Dr Loyd's Rife-List, links were given for information on scalar waves. They displayed that scalar waves were created when two EM type waves met and cancelled each other out, abit like the back wave we see at the beach were two waves travelling towards each other meet, and they create that large wave that just goes straight up. This seemed to fit well into the way I thought of them. A wave travelling on its own wont do this unless it collides into another wave travelling the opposite direction. So my way of thinking was to be positioned in the middle of two plasma transmitters, and at the centre, you have this wave that goes straight up and down, like the waves on a beach, and this would be the scalar waves. My description is probably pretty crude, but it seems logical. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp - FDS Re: Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > Hi Ken, > I don't understand your comment about scalar waves and plasma > transmitters. Why do you say that scalar waves require two > transmitters? It is my suspicion that scalar (longitudinal) waves > emitted by a frequency-driven plasma may be a primary mechanism by > which energy is transmitted from a plasma to a person or other living > creature, who then experiences the " Rife effect " as you described. In > such a scenario it seems like only a single plasma-based frequency > emitter would be required for production of scalar waves. > Warren Rekow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 so the scalar wave is formed in the center of your body hopefully...cool! ? ! have to be some badass plasma transmitters ... anything in mind? > Re: Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > > > Hi Warren, > > Several months back on Dr Loyd's Rife-List, links were given for > information > on scalar waves. They displayed that scalar waves were created > when two EM > type waves met and cancelled each other out, abit like the back > wave we see > at the beach were two waves travelling towards each other meet, and they > create that large wave that just goes straight up. This seemed to > fit well > into the way I thought of them. A wave travelling on its own wont do this > unless it collides into another wave travelling the opposite direction. > > So my way of thinking was to be positioned in the middle of two plasma > transmitters, and at the centre, you have this wave that goes straight up > and down, like the waves on a beach, and this would be the scalar waves. > > My description is probably pretty crude, but it seems logical. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > http://heal-me.com.au > FreX - CHIamp - FDS > > > Re: Re: RIFE AND COMPUTERS > > > > Hi Ken, > > I don't understand your comment about scalar waves and plasma > > transmitters. Why do you say that scalar waves require two > > transmitters? It is my suspicion that scalar (longitudinal) waves > > emitted by a frequency-driven plasma may be a primary mechanism by > > which energy is transmitted from a plasma to a person or other living > > creature, who then experiences the " Rife effect " as you described. In > > such a scenario it seems like only a single plasma-based frequency > > emitter would be required for production of scalar waves. > > Warren Rekow > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Ken Uzzell wrote: >So my way of thinking was to be positioned in the middle of two plasma >transmitters..... > Ken, Many of the researchers using the EM+ systems today set up two Double Bubble E-gas blasma tubes in some research exposures; in the case of a research subject sitting in a chair, for example, one tube is set up in a tube support stand positioned vertically behind the center of the back, while the second tube is set up off one shoulder- 90 degrees to the first in relation to the spine. (Results have been consistently reported when the double bubble tubes are set up parallel to the spine for optimum body response; for a research subject lieing horizontally, a horizontal orientation of the tubes might interface / inter-resonate with the body's energetic field more dynamicly.) Such an arrangement, with waveforms simultaneously passing through the research subject's body from synchronized sources positioned 90 degrees apart, result in an " interference / positive reinforcement " pattern that may increase the dynamics over systems using only a single tube. (That's the brief / simple explanation as to why the setup is working so well.) Be Well!! Bruce http://www.stenulson.net/althealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 > > Hi Bil, > > I had always thought the Rife Effect was the response people > experience when > using plasma transmitters. > > But it seems as discussed here it is a property of the waves being > broadcast > by plasma transmitters, not the response people have with the > transmitters. > > As the Rife Effect can happen with one plasma transmitter, then this > would > denote it is not connected to scalar waves which require two plasma > transmitters. > <clip> Question to Ken -Where do you get your information from? Scalar wars- yes perhaps weapons require two sources/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks SO much for the feedback. I am still learning and thank you for all your knowledge. I find it really interesting that you could put a coil directly into the tower and have no negative effects. > & gt; Hello, > & gt; > & gt; A friend of mine is just starting the process of building me an EMEM machine. We just got the > & gt; bulb! I am excited...anyway. .. I was wondering if we should keep this machine away from our > & gt; computers. Is it likely to harm them? > & gt; Thanks for your advice > & gt; > & gt; Emma > & gt; > & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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