Re: support and encouragement

[Guest guest]

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I went through something similar on another List recently, so I really

empathize, right down to the shaking. After a few of these over the last several

years, I've come to the conclusion that they're almost impossible to avoid in

the long run, because there are so many people involved and you're bound to run

into those who either won't like you, will unfairly attack you, or are just

plain mean and spiteful, and looking for a fight. I almost gave up lists

completely after the last one, and I may still, but right now I'm just trying to

be careful. (Not that you weren't careful. :-)

Carol

I am thoroughly distraught and horrified by this.

L. - who is shaking too hard to type and alternating EFT to calm myself.

[Guest guest]

,

In the spirit of Katja's Law of Conservation of posts, let me respond to

this as well as the nursing question. No, I am not now nursing ... um

.... my youngest is 11 years old. Four and a half years total did I nurse.

About the farm thing. On our local WAP group, there has been

remarks about poor service from a farm. Comments are polite, but honest

about problems that more than one person has had. I've heard good

things too. I think sharing experience is helpful, whether or not it is

good or bad. Have you told the farmer of the problem? It may not be

pleasant, but you should let them know. If they are worth your

business, they will be concerned.

You know, Carol mentioned something about gristle in ground beef. She

might have gone to the farm I use, lol. I love my farm family, btw, and

their meats are top notch. I have a healthy, leggy bird in the oven

right now that is the most beautiful turkey ever I have seen, which came

from this very farm. But anyway, back on track here. I told the

farmers about the small bone chips in some of the meat (heck, good

calcium but hard on the teeth) and they told me the butcher they had

used didn't understand grass-fed cuts. The animal is different than the

feedlot types. And the problem was solved. Had customers not mentioned

this, they might not know to fix it.

So sharing experience is not a crime, even when names are involved.

Sorry you have had to endure this. Breathe!

Deanna

> I have been very careful to never mention the farmer's name or

> location because I did not want to damage the farmer's reputation. I

> really felt that it was an isolated issue, that the fact that we are

> not from this state had something to do with it.

> A new member (who also lives in the same portion of the state as me)

> just joined the group, and responded to my original post of that

> question by attacking me and blaspheming me. Did I ever sound as if I

> were accusing the farmer, did I ever inadvertently give out any

> information about the farmer? I am horrified that this new member has

> responded to such an old post in this way... if anything she has now

> done the farmer more damage by bringing it back up and putting a

> location on it.

> L. - who is shaking too hard to type and alternating EFT to calm

> myself.

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[Guest guest]

>The moderator has now stepped in. And we are looking to move to a

>drier area as soon as possible for reasons other than the food, and

>much more critical to our health.

> - who can't breathe because the air might literally kill her

>with all the pink, orange, and yellow mildew producing endotoxins and

>mycotoxins quite liberally... alas, all the cloth furniture, a couple

>of wood tables are lost, and seriously debating the matresses and

>papers...

I've been playing with Effective Microorganisms, and it seems they really

fight molds quite nicely. Just add a spoonful or two to a spray bottle and

spray the walls (or mildewed shower curtain, or whatever). They use them

to kill mycotoxic stuff in crowded chicken coops, which are a lot worse than

your house! (I hope!).

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Yes, after getting a little advice (2 days later) I did

talk to the farmer. She decided that I was nuts, and was nice enough

to refund my share money (we were only with her for 10 days). Well,

that was almost 2 weeks ago, and then wham! We were past it, and

looking into other possibilities.

The moderator has now stepped in. And we are looking to move to a

drier area as soon as possible for reasons other than the food, and

much more critical to our health.

- who can't breathe because the air might literally kill her

with all the pink, orange, and yellow mildew producing endotoxins and

mycotoxins quite liberally... alas, all the cloth furniture, a couple

of wood tables are lost, and seriously debating the matresses and

papers...

Have you told the farmer of the problem? It may not be

> pleasant, but you should let them know. If they are worth your

> business, they will be concerned.

> So sharing experience is not a crime, even when names are involved.

> Sorry you have had to endure this. Breathe!

>

> Deanna

[Guest guest]

I would hope so, but i doubt it. It is inside the walls. And the only

way to kill all of it would be to take down the paneling, replace the

outer siding, the studs and the inner paneling (no insulation in these

silly things!) and the landlord just doesn't want to... no offense

intended, but she would rather " rent it to a Mexican who won't

complain! " So moving is the best option.

Wish us luck!

L.

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:04:50 -0800, Heidi Schuppenhauer

<heidis@...> wrote:

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> >The moderator has now stepped in. And we are looking to move to a

> >drier area as soon as possible for reasons other than the food, and

> >much more critical to our health.

> > - who can't breathe because the air might literally kill her

> >with all the pink, orange, and yellow mildew producing endotoxins and

> >mycotoxins quite liberally... alas, all the cloth furniture, a couple

> >of wood tables are lost, and seriously debating the matresses and

> >papers...

>

> I've been playing with Effective Microorganisms, and it seems they really

> fight molds quite nicely. Just add a spoonful or two to a spray bottle and

> spray the walls (or mildewed shower curtain, or whatever). They use them

> to kill mycotoxic stuff in crowded chicken coops, which are a lot worse than

> your house! (I hope!).

>

>

> Heidi Jean

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