Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I think they do they make you sign a notice saying that you are aware of the risks such as seizure, fever etc. they probably have the mercury warning in print somewhere to protect themselves from liability. The issue they have dealt with is similar to the RCRA environmental laws in that ³safe² does not and has never meant ³risk free² in the law. Something has to be determined to be ³unsafe² according to a measure of risk that the government is willing to take. For vaccinations, the risk the government has been willing take has always been more significant due to a number of factors including epidemic likelihood due to lack of vaccinations, percentage of population at risk if the percentage of unvaccinated children is too high, cost to the economy if an epidemic occurs, and percentage of population that develops problems from a vaccine. Unfortunately, the government has determined that the benefit outweighs the risk for vaccinations when it comes to mercury for too many years. Instead of having a mandate to drug companies, lobbyists for the drug companies (which are very well paid) have convinced the government to look the other way so that they could make money. Drug companies are very powerful, similar to the tobacco industry, and instead of focusing efforts on government to make vaccines safer and to get answers, it seems to me that it is the drug companies that need to be convinced to do the right thing. I would like to know if the children of drug company executives receive their own vaccines. Its a sad truth that this country is being run by corporations instead of by the people and for the people as intended by our founders. Thimerosal is a mercury containing preservative. From the CDC: 12. Are there any vaccines recommended for preschool children that contain thimerosal as a preservative? Yes. Recently the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommended flu vaccine for children 6 to 23 months of age and all children at high risk for complications from influenza. Although some flu vaccines contain the preservative thimerosal, the amounts found in these vaccines are considered safe for use in children. For parents, physicians, and other healthcare providers who have concerns, there is some flu vaccine available that does not contain thimerosal as a preservative. Note that the CDC used the word ³safe². Peg (I am an attorney and mother) > > > > > It's just a rhetorical question, but why don't they warn about mercury in > the flu shots???? > > Read on...... > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061123/ap_on_sc/mercury_in_fish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I have done a lot of research about mercury in vaccines and the most recent research indicates that there is no correlation between autism and mercuy/thimerosal preservative. I can send some of the peer reviewed articles if anyone is interested. wrote: I think they do & shy; they make you sign a notice saying that you are aware of the risks & shy; such as seizure, fever etc. they probably have the mercury warning in print somewhere to protect themselves from liability. The issue they have dealt with is similar to the RCRA environmental laws in that ³safe² does not and has never meant ³risk free² in the law. Something has to be determined to be ³unsafe² according to a measure of risk that the government is willing to take. For vaccinations, the risk the government has been willing take has always been more significant due to a number of factors including & shy; epidemic likelihood due to lack of vaccinations, percentage of population at risk if the percentage of unvaccinated children is too high, cost to the economy if an epidemic occurs, and percentage of population that develops problems from a vaccine. Unfortunately, the government has determined that the benefit outweighs the risk for vaccinations when it comes to mercury for too many years. Instead of having a mandate to drug companies, lobbyists for the drug companies (which are very well paid) have convinced the government to look the other way so that they could make money. Drug companies are very powerful, similar to the tobacco industry, and instead of focusing efforts on government to make vaccines safer and to get answers, it seems to me that it is the drug companies that need to be convinced to do the right thing. I would like to know if the children of drug company executives receive their own vaccines. Its a sad truth that this country is being run by corporations instead of by the people and for the people as intended by our founders. Thimerosal is a mercury containing preservative. From the CDC: 12. Are there any vaccines recommended for preschool children that contain thimerosal as a preservative? Yes. Recently the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommended flu vaccine for children 6 to 23 months of age and all children at high risk for complications from influenza. Although some flu vaccines contain the preservative thimerosal, the amounts found in these vaccines are considered safe for use in children. For parents, physicians, and other healthcare providers who have concerns, there is some flu vaccine available that does not contain thimerosal as a preservative. Note that the CDC used the word ³safe². Peg (I am an attorney and mother) > > > > > It's just a rhetorical question, but why don't they warn about mercury in > the flu shots???? > > Read on...... > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061123/ap_on_sc/mercury_in_fish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Actually, the research is not dispositive. They have been unable to prove a correlation that satisfies the government¹s criteria, but the CDC is still studying the issue. If you look at the CDC¹s website they will admit that they are still studying the issue and they will admit that they have applied safety criteria for methylmercury to ethylmercury which I believe is ludicrous because they are different compounds at the atomic level that have different effects on the body. I don¹t believe that the lack of determining a correlation proves that there is no correlation. Correlations have been found but were discarded for lack of corroborative evidence. That should not guide parents¹ decisions regarding their children. Rather, look at other countries¹ decisions with regard to mercury, i.e., the decision to have a zero tolerance policy for mercury when it comes to children. Why is it that only the United States has the audacity to subject children to mercury? That is what should be researched, IMO. I do not personally know whether mercury at the small quantities used is harmful, but it is an accepted fact that mercury is a poison, a very toxic poison with known effects to humans in such small quantities that even tiny quantities of mercury has rendered many species of fish in Lake Michigan inedible. I would be interested in seeing the peer reviewed articles. THANKS! Peg > > > > > I have done a lot of research about mercury in vaccines and the most recent > research indicates that there is no correlation between autism and > mercuy/thimerosal preservative. I can send some of the peer reviewed articles > if anyone is interested. > > <ipcounselor@... <mailto:ipcounselor%40aol.com> > wrote: > I think they do & shy; they make you sign a notice saying that you are aware of > the risks & shy; such as seizure, fever etc. they probably have the mercury > warning in print somewhere to protect themselves from liability. The issue > they have dealt with is similar to the RCRA environmental laws in that > ³safe² does not and has never meant ³risk free² in the law. Something has > to be determined to be ³unsafe² according to a measure of risk that the > government is willing to take. For vaccinations, the risk the government > has been willing take has always been more significant due to a number of > factors including & shy; epidemic likelihood due to lack of vaccinations, > percentage of population at risk if the percentage of unvaccinated children > is too high, cost to the economy if an epidemic occurs, and percentage of > population that develops problems from a vaccine. Unfortunately, the > government has determined that the benefit outweighs the risk for > vaccinations when it comes to mercury for too many years. Instead of having > a mandate to drug companies, lobbyists for the drug companies (which are > very well paid) have convinced the government to look the other way so that > they could make money. Drug companies are very powerful, similar to the > tobacco industry, and instead of focusing efforts on government to make > vaccines safer and to get answers, it seems to me that it is the drug > companies that need to be convinced to do the right thing. I would like to > know if the children of drug company executives receive their own vaccines. > Its a sad truth that this country is being run by corporations instead of by > the people and for the people as intended by our founders. Thimerosal is a > mercury containing preservative. > > From the CDC: > > 12. Are there any vaccines recommended for preschool children that contain > thimerosal as a preservative? > > Yes. Recently the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices > recommended flu vaccine for children 6 to 23 months of age and all children > at high risk for complications from influenza. Although some flu vaccines > contain the preservative thimerosal, the amounts found in these vaccines are > considered safe for use in children. For parents, physicians, and other > healthcare providers who have concerns, there is some flu vaccine available > that does not contain thimerosal as a preservative. > > Note that the CDC used the word ³safe². > > Peg (I am an attorney and mother) > > On 11/23/06 9:47 PM, " ginam " <ginam@... > <mailto:ginam%40houston.rr.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > It's just a rhetorical question, but why don't they warn about mercury in >> > the flu shots???? >> > >> > Read on...... >> > >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061123/ap_on_sc/mercury_in_fish >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 The following two recent articles from MEDLINE indicate that mercury does play a role in autism. Given the connection, why would ANY amount of mercury be " safe " for children???? Environmental mercury release, special education rates, and autism disorder: an ecological study of Texas. _Health Place. 2006; 12(2):203-9_ (http://www.medscape.com/medline/publicationbrowser/123?pmid=16338635) (ISSN: 1353-8292) CME Palmer RF; Blanchard S; Stein Z; Mandell D; C University of Texas Health Science Center, San Department of Family and Community Medicine, 7703 Floyd Curl Drive, San , Texas 78229-3900, USA. palmer@... The association between environmentally released mercury, special education and autism rates in Texas was investigated using data from the Texas Education Department and the United States Environmental Protection Agency. A Poisson regression analysis adjusted for school district population size, economic and demographic factors was used. There was a significant increase in the rates of special education students and autism rates associated with increases in environmentally released mercury. On average, for each 1,000 lb of environmentally released mercury, there was a 43% increase in the rate of special education services and a 61% increase in the rate of autism. The association between environmentally released mercury and special education rates were fully mediated by increased autism rates. This ecological study suggests the need for further research regarding the association between environmentally released mercury and developmental disorders such as autism. These results have implications for policy planning and cost analysis. A prospective assessment of porphyrins in autistic disorders: a potential marker for heavy metal exposure. _Sign Up To Receive Medscape Best Evidence_ (http://profreg.medscape.com/px/newsletter.do) Key journal articles ranked for newsworthiness and clinical relevance in each specialty, linked to Medline abstracts. _Neurotox Res. 2006; 10(1):57-64_ (http://www.medscape.com/medline/publicationbrowser/123?pmid=17000470) (ISSN: 1029-8428) Geier DA; Geier MR The Institute for Chronic Illnesses, Silver Spring, MD 20905, USA. Autism was recently associated with a urinary porphyrin pattern indicative of mercury toxicity in a large cohort of French children. The IRB of the Institute for Chronic Illnesses approved the present study. A total of 37 consecutive American patients (> or = 7 years-old) with autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition-DSM IV), born from 1983-1998, that presented to the Genetic Centers of America for outpatient genetic evaluations were prospectively examined for urinary prophryin levels (LabCorp, Inc.) from June 2005-June 2006. Imaging and laboratory testing were conducted on each patient to rule-out other causal factors for their ASDs. As controls, age-, sex-, and race-matched neurotypical ASD siblings were examined. An apparent dose-response effect was observed between autism severity and increased urinary coproporphyrins. Patients with non-chelated autism (2.25-fold, 83% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean) and non-chelated ASDs (2-fold, 58% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean), but not patients with non-chelated pervasive developmental delay-not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) or Asperger's disorder (1.4-fold, 46% had levels > 2 SD above the control mean), had significantly increased median coproporphyrin levels versus controls. A significant increase (1.7-fold) in median coproporphyrin levels was observed among non-chelated ASD patients versus chelated ASD patients. Porphyrins should be routinely clinically measured in ASDs, and potential ASD treatments should consider monitoring porphyrin levels. Additional research should be conducted to evaluate the potential role for mercury exposure in some ASDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 There is " research " to support both theories. Pharma supported research will show no link. Other scientific research shows a link - look on ARI website. It is best to read both sides and decide. Kirby's Evidence of Harm is an interesting read. N > > I have done a lot of research about mercury in vaccines and the most recent research indicates that there is no correlation between autism and mercuy/thimerosal preservative. I can send some of the peer reviewed articles if anyone is interested. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 In a message dated 11/26/2006 8:11:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, csherman7@... writes: We have discovered that my son does not genetically make Glutithione. What kind of test was conducted in order to determine this and who did it/where was it done? CReece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 This is some research that Theresa Binstock put together on the mercury and research issue. A. The CDC’s 1999 study found statistically significant associations between thimerosal injections and a range of neurologic problems, including but not limited to attention deficits, language problems, sleep disorders, tics, and autism (1). B. The CDC proceeded deliberately to dilute its own 1999 findings (eg, 2-5). C. “Pediatrics”, a journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, published the diluted-data rendition of the CDC’s findings as Verstraeten et al 2003 (6). D. FOIA evidence presented in court documents includes a CDC-IOM meeting transcript indicating that conclusions for the IOM’s second thimerosal hearing were predetermined by the CDC, which hired the IOM to orchestrate the IOM’s second thimerosal hearing (7, see also 8). Thus, public record indicates that the primary basis of rationales alleging thimerosal’s lack of adverse effects is rooted in CDC data that CDC employees diluted. Were a medical school researcher to deliberately dilute data, he or she would be promptly barred from the laboratory. Furthermore, recent U.S. history offers precedents in suppressing data damaging to financial interests and in the recruitment of physicians and researchers willing to cooperate with those same financial interests on behalf of hiding data showing adverse effects (eg, 9). Conclusion: The toxic load of pregnant women is increasing, as are the numbers of toxins in infants and others (eg, 10-27). Thus, thimerosal – which is 49.6% ethylmercury by weight (reviewed in 28) – ought not be added to the toxic load within the bodies of women, fetus, infants, and toddlers. I encourage this Senate committee and the Colorado legislature to pass legislation banning or severely limiting physicians’ and nurses’ ability to inject thimerosal, a known neurotoxin (eg, 29-33), into humans in Colorado. References: 1. CDC documents obtained by FOIA, critiqued by Mark Blaxill of Safeminds.org http://www.safeminds.org/Generation%20Zero%20Syn.pdf http://www.safeminds.org/Generation%20Zero%20Pres.pdf 2. http://www.safeminds.org/legislation/foia/simpsonwood.html 3. http://www.safeminds.org/research/past.html 4. http://www.generationrescue.org/mercury_myths14.html 5. http://www.momsonamissionforautism.org/index/VSD.SafeMinds.critique.pdf 6. Verstraeten T et al. Safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: a two-phased study of computerized health maintenance organization databases. Pediatrics. 2003 Nov;112(5):1039-48. 7. Closed Meeting Transcript of IOM - Immunization Safety Review Committee http://www.nomercury.org/iom.htm 8. Congressman Weldon (R-Fla) speech to Autism One conference http://www.autisminfo.com/WeldonAutismOne2004.htm 9. Exposed: The Secret Corporate Funding Behind Health Research Academics and the media have failed dismally to ask the crucial question of scientists' claims: who is paying you? by Monbiot Tuesday, February 7, 2006 by the Guardian/UK http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1704107,00.html 10. Bosman J. Reporters Find Science Journals Harder to Trust, but Not Easy to Verify. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/13/business/media/13journal.html 11. Marsee, K, TJ Woodruff, DA Axelrad, AM Calafat, and SH Swan. 2006. Estimated Daily Phthalate Exposures in a Population of Mothers of Male Infants Exhibiting Reduced Anogenital Distance. Environmental Health Perspectives, in press. http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NewScience/oncompounds/phthalates/2006/2006-0 205marseeetal.htm 12. One in five women of childbearing age for mercury in a national survey have levels exceeding the EPA's recommended limit. The more fish they ate, --including store-bought fish, canned tuna and locally caught fish-- the higher their levels. An Investigation of Factors Related to Levels of Mercury in Human Hair. http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/press/reports/an-investigation-of-factors-re 13. North American children remain at risk from environmental exposures. Data show a rising number of childhood asthma cases across North America. Lead levels have improved but paint hazards remain. Mexico faces large challenges in water and sanitation. Children’s health and the environment in North America. Published by North American Commission for Environmental ation. 4 February 2006. http://www.cec.org/pubs_docs/documents/index.cfm?varlan=english & ID=1917 14. A cocktail of harmful toxic chemicals has been found inside every person tested in a Canada-wide study. Many of the chemicals discovered in the bodies of Canadians are associated with cancer, hormone disruption, reproductive disorders, respiratory illnesses and harming the development of children. Toxic Nation. Pollution, It's in You! Published by Environmental Defence Canada. 19 January 2006. http://www.environmentaldefence.ca/toxicnation/home.php 15. Tap water in 42 states is contaminated with more than 140 chemicals lacking safety standards. Public health officials have not set safety standards for these chemicals, even though millions drink them every day. A national assessment of tap water quality. Published by Environmental Working Group. 20 December 2005. http://www.ewg.org/tapwater/findings.php 16. CDC's biomonitoring report reveals continued presence of several long-banned chemicals, such as PCBs and DDT, in people in the US. Children had higher levels than adults of phthalates and organophosphate pesticides. Disparities among racial/ethnic groups continue to be a concern, with Mexican Americans, Non-Hispanic Blacks and Non-Hispanic Whites showing different patterns of exposures to several chemicals. LDDI analysis – CDC biomonitoring. Published by The Learning and Developmental Disabilities Initiative. 11 November 2005. http://www.iceh.org/LDDISummaryCDC.html 17. The first US study to test household dust for a new and wide variety of chemicals found disturbing evidence of toxic chemicals in ordinary homes across the country. This study shows that the US federal regulatory system has failed in protecting people from exposure to hazardous chemicals including toxic flame retardants, pesticides, and hormone disrupting chemicals. Sick of dust. Published by Safer Products Project. 24 October 2005 http://www.safer-products.org/page.php?p=dust 18. A European-wide family bloodtesting survey found a total of 73 man-made hazardous chemicals in the blood of 13 families (grandmothers, mothers and children) from 12 European countries. The highest number of chemicals was detected in the grandmothers' generation (63). However, the younger generation had more chemicals in their blood (59) than their mothers (49), and some chemicals were found at their highest levels in the children. Generations X. Published by World Wildlife Fund - UK. 6 October 2005 http://www.panda.org/campaign/detox/news_publications/news.cfm?uNewsID=23635 19. Environmental contaminants in breast milk. Nickerson K. J Midwifery Womens Health. 2006 Jan-Feb;51(1):26-34. 20. Determination of organochlorine pesticide residues in the blood of healthy individuals. Charlier CJ, Plomteux GJ. Clin Chem Lab Med. 2002 Apr;40(4):361-4. 21. Tests on blood taken from the umbilical cords of nearly 30 new-born babies and from more than 40 new mothers revealed contamination in every sample of mother or baby blood tested. All umbilical cords contained a minimum of five of the 35 chemicals tested for, some contained as many as 14. Two of the mothers tested had 17 of the 35 chemicals in their blood. A present for life: Hazardous chemicals in cord blood. Published by Greenpeace International, World Wildlife Fund - UK. 8 September 2005. http://www.wwf-uk.org/news/n_0000001830.asp 22. A new study confirms that chemical exposure begins in the womb, as hundreds of industrial chemicals, pollutants and pesticides are pumped back and forth from mother to baby through umbilical cord blood. Laboratory tests of 10 American Red Cross cord blood samples found an average of 200 contaminants. The pollutants included mercury, fire retardants, pesticides and the Teflon chemical PFOA. In total, the babies' blood had 287 chemicals, including 209 never before detected in cord blood. The Pollution in Newborns. Published by Environmental Working Group. 14 July 2005 http://www.ewg.org/reports/bodyburden2/newsrelease.php 23. Children as young as nine years old are not only contaminated with a cocktail of hazardous man-made chemicals but can have higher concentrations of certain newer chemicals than older generations. Of the 104 chemicals analysed, 80 were detected - children were found to have 75 chemicals in their blood, 75 were found in parents and 56 in grandmothers. Contaminated: the next generation. Published by World Wildlife Fund - UK. 10 October 2004. http://www.wwf.org.uk/News/n_0000001359.asp 24. Very few women’s health concerns, including the effects of exposure passed from mother to fetus, are taken into account when government agencies or corporations set 'safe' exposure levels. A new report reveals how women and their families are exposed in homes and neighborhoods, at work, in the broader community, and across the state. Confronting Toxic Contamination in Our Communities: Women’s Health and California’s Future. Published by Women's Foundation of California. 10 October 2003. http://www.womensfoundca.org/fullreport10_7.pdf 25. Hooper K, She J. Lessons from the polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs): precautionary principle, primary prevention, and the value of community-based body-burden monitoring using breast milk. Environ Health Perspect. 2003 Jan;111(1):109-14. http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2003/5438/5438.html http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2003/5438/5438.pdf 26. Landrigan P et al. Chemical contaminants in breast milk and their impacts on children's health: an overview. Environ Health Perspect. 2002 Jun;110(6):A313-5. http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2002/110pA313-A315landrigan/landrigan-full. html http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2002/110pA313-A315landrigan/EHP110pA313PDF. PDF 27. Suzuki G, Nakano M, Nakano S. Distribution of PCDDs/PCDFs and Co-PCBs in human maternal blood, cord blood, placenta, milk, and adipose tissue: dioxins showing high toxic equivalency factor accumulate in the placenta. Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2005 Oct;69(10):1836-47. http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb/69/10/69_1836/_article http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb/69/10/1836/_pdf 28. Bernard et al. Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning. Med Hypotheses. 2001 Apr;56(4):462-71. 29. Baskin et al. Thimerosal induces DNA breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage, and cell death in cultured human neurons and fibroblasts. Toxicol Sci. 2003 Aug;74(2):361-8 http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/74/2/361?ijkey=0dd70f346f3fe83d 8a3bfa5b361af3f4eff26c25 30. Waly et al. Activation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal. Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Apr;9(4):358-70. 31. Havarinasab S, Hultman P. Organic mercury compounds and autoimmunity. Autoimmun Rev. 2005 Jun;4(5):270-5. 32. Mutter J et al. Mercury and autism: accelerating evidence? Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2005 Oct;26(5):439-46. 33. Burbacher TM et al. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environ Health Perspect. 2005 Aug;113(8):1015-21. http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2005/7712/7712.html http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2005/7712/7712.pdf 34.SB06-099 http://www.leg.state.co.us/Clics2006A/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/612F2210EC1F055A87 2570660062EC82?Open & file=099_01.pdf A good starting point is the google search Yazbak MMR Corrigan's essay will help you feel not so alone. Re: mercury There is " research " to support both theories. Pharma supported research will show no link. Other scientific research shows a link - look on ARI website. It is best to read both sides and decide. Kirby's Evidence of Harm is an interesting read. N > > I have done a lot of research about mercury in vaccines and the most recent research indicates that there is no correlation between autism and mercuy/thimerosal preservative. I can send some of the peer reviewed articles if anyone is interested. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Dear Ms. Wasowicz, I've read several of your recent autism essays and wonder, When (if at all) are you going to evaluate the CDC's 1999 findings of associations between infant thimerosal injections and a range of neurodevelopmental problems, including but not limited to attention deficits, tics, language problems, and autism? Evidence of the CDC's 1999 findings was found amidst documents obtained by FOIA. Additional evidence in those documents showed that the CDC deliberately diluted its own autism findings so as to minimize and hide the adverse effects of thimerosal. A thorough analysis of the CDC's 1999 findings is available online (eg, 1-3), as are the original CDC documents obtained by FOIA (eg, 4-5). Your columns present quotes from Gerberding and from IOM spokespersons as if they are ethical individuals. However, were a graduate or post-graduate researcher to alter data deliberately as the basis for fictional conclusions (as did the CDC's thimerosal team), that researcher would be rapidly and severely sanctioned. Furthermore, as obtained by FOIA, CDC documents show that the CDC hired the IOM for its second thimerosal hearing and, while so doing, set forth the bottom-line conclusions that what was to become an IOM pseudo-hearing was to announce. Please peruse the CDC documents obtained by FOIA. I and others can help you obtain copies of those documents. The major story regarding thimerosal is the CDC's own deliberate diluting of its own data, augmented by Gerberding's and the IOM's willingness to sustain the CDC-created thimerosal fictions. Sincerely, Binstock Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy P.O. Box 1788 Estes Park CO 80517 ps: This post may be forwarded hither and yon. 1. http://www.safeminds.org/Generation%20Zero%20Syn.pdf 2. http://www.safeminds.org/research/library/GenerationZeroNotes.pdf 3. http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library/GenerationZeroPres.pdf 4. http://nomercury.org/ 5. http://www.momsagainstmercury.org/ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 4a. Genes and Autism Posted by: " cattiefiremom " cattiefiremom@... cattiefiremom Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:11 am (PST) Its simple Genetics don't cause epidemics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 How did you discover that he does not genetically make Glutathione? Did you see a geneticist? Diane mercury We have discovered that my son does not genetically make Glutithione. This amino acid helps to get rid of heavy metals from the body. So to oversimplify if I may, if you don't make Glutithione then it's possible that every drop of heavy metal such as mercury and lead and uranium and so on could bind to your body and not get released. With the addition of Glutithione transdermally and chelation therapy to help bind the heavy metal and flush it out we are seeing astounding results. Also if you look at the symptoms of autism and mercury or heavy metal poisoning they are startlingly similar. So, if I had known my son did not make Glutithione and I added it shortly after birth could I have prevented autism? I think some mercury is fine for some people who are capable of getting rid of toxins naturally (such as my 2 typical children) and others cannot take such a heavy load as we have seen with the addition of so many vaccines in such a short span of time. Even if my son was a slow excreter perhaps he would have just had attention issues or speech delay on a more mild scale such as affects nearly half of the older (past 13 years) boys in our immediate family. There are no autistic persons in my family back 4 generations, my husband either, but there also has not been the # of vaccines and toxins in the environment that we have seen in the last 12 years. Just a thought. Oh and heres a tidbit, my son is letting me sing again with him, all of the sudden, so normal that we almost didn't notice. Best of luck to all. Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 > > > It was a blood test done at CASD here in Austin. It also gave me > information on what type of antibiotics are most effective, it was > very informative. > Diane > mercury > > We have discovered that my son does not genetically make Glutithione. > This amino acid helps to get rid of heavy metals from the body. So to > oversimplify if I may, if you don't make Glutithione then it's possible > that every drop of heavy metal such as mercury and lead and uranium and > so on could bind to your body and not get released. With the addition of > Glutithione transdermally and chelation therapy to help bind the heavy > metal and flush it out we are seeing astounding results. Also if you > look at the symptoms of autism and mercury or heavy metal poisoning they > are startlingly similar. > So, if I had known my son did not make Glutithione and I added it > shortly after birth could I have prevented autism? I think some mercury > is fine for some people who are capable of getting rid of toxins > naturally (such as my 2 typical children) and others cannot take such a > heavy load as we have seen with the addition of so many vaccines in such > a short span of time. Even if my son was a slow excreter perhaps he > would have just had attention issues or speech delay on a more mild > scale such as affects nearly half of the older (past 13 years) boys in > our immediate family. There are no autistic persons in my family back 4 > generations, my husband either, but there also has not been the # of > vaccines and toxins in the environment that we have seen in the last 12 > years. Just a thought. Oh and heres a tidbit, my son is letting me sing > again with him, all of the sudden, so normal that we almost didn't > notice. Best of luck to all. Trina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Do you know what specific test it was? and Trina Sherman wrote: > > > It was a blood test done at CASD here in Austin. It also gave me > information on what type of antibiotics are most effective, it was > very informative. > Diane > mercury > > We have discovered that my son does not genetically make Glutithione. > This amino acid helps to get rid of heavy metals from the body. So to > oversimplify if I may, if you don't make Glutithione then it's possible > that every drop of heavy metal such as mercury and lead and uranium and > so on could bind to your body and not get released. With the addition of > Glutithione transdermally and chelation therapy to help bind the heavy > metal and flush it out we are seeing astounding results. Also if you > look at the symptoms of autism and mercury or heavy metal poisoning they > are startlingly similar. > So, if I had known my son did not make Glutithione and I added it > shortly after birth could I have prevented autism? I think some mercury > is fine for some people who are capable of getting rid of toxins > naturally (such as my 2 typical children) and others cannot take such a > heavy load as we have seen with the addition of so many vaccines in such > a short span of time. Even if my son was a slow excreter perhaps he > would have just had attention issues or speech delay on a more mild > scale such as affects nearly half of the older (past 13 years) boys in > our immediate family. There are no autistic persons in my family back 4 > generations, my husband either, but there also has not been the # of > vaccines and toxins in the environment that we have seen in the last 12 > years. Just a thought. Oh and heres a tidbit, my son is letting me sing > again with him, all of the sudden, so normal that we almost didn't > notice. Best of luck to all. Trina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I would like to know the same thing. What is the name of the test to see if your child produces Glutithione, and if there is a second " test " that provides the indicator on antibiotics that would be great! PS: I love that you can sing with your child again. My politely tells me " stop singing " -- but that could be autism and/or my singing ability . Thanks for any additional information! Tracie > > > > > It was a blood test done at CASD here in Austin. It also gave me > > information on what type of antibiotics are most effective, it was > > very informative. > > Diane > > mercury > > > > We have discovered that my son does not genetically make Glutithione. > > This amino acid helps to get rid of heavy metals from the body. So to > > oversimplify if I may, if you don't make Glutithione then it's possible > > that every drop of heavy metal such as mercury and lead and uranium and > > so on could bind to your body and not get released. With the addition of > > Glutithione transdermally and chelation therapy to help bind the heavy > > metal and flush it out we are seeing astounding results. Also if you > > look at the symptoms of autism and mercury or heavy metal poisoning they > > are startlingly similar. > > So, if I had known my son did not make Glutithione and I added it > > shortly after birth could I have prevented autism? I think some mercury > > is fine for some people who are capable of getting rid of toxins > > naturally (such as my 2 typical children) and others cannot take such a > > heavy load as we have seen with the addition of so many vaccines in such > > a short span of time. Even if my son was a slow excreter perhaps he > > would have just had attention issues or speech delay on a more mild > > scale such as affects nearly half of the older (past 13 years) boys in > > our immediate family. There are no autistic persons in my family back 4 > > generations, my husband either, but there also has not been the # of > > vaccines and toxins in the environment that we have seen in the last 12 > > years. Just a thought. Oh and heres a tidbit, my son is letting me sing > > again with him, all of the sudden, so normal that we almost didn't > > notice. Best of luck to all. Trina > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Tracie, It's not your voice. I am a singer and I have a good ear, my daughter even asks me if I'm singing on the radio sometimes. So, I doubt it's your singing ability any more than it was mine. My child also would say " No singing please " to everyone. I remember one time when I was rehearsing to sing Phantom Matt came into the room to listen. I remember thinking it was odd that he was okay with me singing opperetta and not singing Barney songs with him. I still haven't figured that one out. The test you asked about is Genovations Immuno Genomic Profile done at Great Smokies Diagnostic lab. The actual test was done here in Austin at CASD and I'm sure Kazuko could tell you more about it. I think her telephone there is 306-1920. The front page of my report says Genovations , Predictive Genomics for Personalized Medicine. Their website is www.genovations.com. I hope that is helpful to you as well. Trina > I would like to know the same thing. What is the name of the test > to see if your child produces Glutithione, and if there is a > second " test " that provides the indicator on antibiotics that would > be great! > > PS: I love that you can sing with your child again. My politely > tells me " stop singing " -- but that could be autism and/or my > singing ability . > > Thanks for any additional information! > Tracie > > > > > > > > > It was a blood test done at CASD here in Austin. It also gave me > > > information on what type of antibiotics are most effective, it > was > > > very informative. > > > Diane > > > mercury > > > > > > We have discovered that my son does not genetically make > Glutithione. > > > This amino acid helps to get rid of heavy metals from the body. > So to > > > oversimplify if I may, if you don't make Glutithione then it's > possible > > > that every drop of heavy metal such as mercury and lead and > uranium and > > > so on could bind to your body and not get released. With the > addition of > > > Glutithione transdermally and chelation therapy to help bind the > heavy > > > metal and flush it out we are seeing astounding results. Also if > you > > > look at the symptoms of autism and mercury or heavy metal > poisoning they > > > are startlingly similar. > > > So, if I had known my son did not make Glutithione and I added it > > > shortly after birth could I have prevented autism? I think some > mercury > > > is fine for some people who are capable of getting rid of toxins > > > naturally (such as my 2 typical children) and others cannot take > such a > > > heavy load as we have seen with the addition of so many vaccines > in such > > > a short span of time. Even if my son was a slow excreter perhaps > he > > > would have just had attention issues or speech delay on a more > mild > > > scale such as affects nearly half of the older (past 13 years) > boys in > > > our immediate family. There are no autistic persons in my family > back 4 > > > generations, my husband either, but there also has not been the > # of > > > vaccines and toxins in the environment that we have seen in the > last 12 > > > years. Just a thought. Oh and heres a tidbit, my son is letting > me sing > > > again with him, all of the sudden, so normal that we almost > didn't > > > notice. Best of luck to all. Trina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yes this was my sons case. He showed alsmost no mercury in his hair test but met the rules. We did very low dose chelation and a urine test 2 days after and there was mercury. The amount wasn't real high because we chose to do real low dose (4 mg's DMSA and 4 mg's ALA every 3 hrs for 3 days). After 6 rounds of this we retested his hair and all the toxic metals came down a little bit and his mercury was up a tiny bit meaning he is starting to excrete it when he wasn't before. Mercury only stays in the blood for a short time and then binds real tight to organs and tissue. I put his 3 tests first hair, urine and second hair test in the files section under PDF file elijah Bruinooge if you or anyone cares to see. Hope this helps. I will leave the files till tommorrow but think the moderater wont want me to keep them there : ) mercury My 12yo son had a DMSA challenge test a couple of years ago. He tested high copper and elevated antimony, slightly elevated lead. He did not test high in mercury. I have 8 amalghams, rhogam with each kid (3). I think I read where it might be there but not showing up on test results.Anyone know about this? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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