Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Ken: In a spectrum breakdown of a 528Hz square wave at 50% duty cycle, the odd harmonics plus the fundamental is there. So if something, perhaps a tuned circuit (or body function) is 528Hz, it would indeed resonant with the square wave. The power as you mentioned is spread out in a wider spectrum, so the 528Hz is less effective versus its sine. I haven't followed Dr. MacLeod comments too closely but it seems he operates at the fundamental sine to work in some form of harmony with the body and its organs. On the other hand, if are you trying to destory a microrganism, the square wave has been proven emperically to be the most disruptive. Ken Uzzell wrote: To Dr. Ian MacLeod Ph.D. & members, Dear Ian, I have been using sine waves and the Rife/Crane audio frequencies in a little contact pad system. There is definately a difference in feel and body response between these two wave types. A square wave that holds up under body load delivers a rich array of harmoinics, and the signal can resonant at the harmonics, but not at the frequency itself. I.E. 528Hz as a square wave can resonant at its harmonics, but it doesn't cause resonance to occur at 528Hz. On the other hand, the sine wave lacks harmonics, but it has alot of power at the output frequency and it does cause resonance at the output frequency. So you get a good opportunity for 528Hz to cause a resonance response in the body at 528Hz. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > To Dr. Ian MacLeod Ph.D. & members, > > Dear Ian, > > I have been using sine waves and the Rife/Crane audio frequencies in a little contact pad system. There is definately a difference in feel and body response between these two wave types. > > A square wave that holds up under body load delivers a rich array of harmoinics, and the signal can resonant at the harmonics, but not at the frequency itself. > > I.E. 528Hz as a square wave can resonant at its harmonics, but it doesn't cause resonance to occur at 528Hz. > > On the other hand, the sine wave lacks harmonics, but it has alot of power at the output frequency and it does cause resonance at the output frequency. So you get a good opportunity for 528Hz to cause a resonance response in the body at 528Hz. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > http://heal-me.com.au > FreX - CHIamp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I believe we are both right depending what perpective you are looking at. Mine was a finite source looking at spectral power distribution, yours perhaps relates to a actual calibrated generator that switches from sine to square wave. In this case, the fundamental does stay at the selected RMS level. Is this correct? -- In Rife , " atelierrobin " wrote: > > > > To Dr. Ian MacLeod Ph.D. & members, > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > I have been using sine waves and the Rife/Crane audio frequencies in > a little contact pad system. There is definately a difference in feel > and body response between these two wave types. > > > > A square wave that holds up under body load delivers a rich array of > harmoinics, and the signal can resonant at the harmonics, but not at > the frequency itself. > > > > I.E. 528Hz as a square wave can resonant at its harmonics, but it > doesn't cause resonance to occur at 528Hz. > > > > On the other hand, the sine wave lacks harmonics, but it has alot of > power at the output frequency and it does cause resonance at the > output frequency. So you get a good opportunity for 528Hz to cause a > resonance response in the body at 528Hz. > > > > Regards, > > Ken Uzzell > > http://heal-me.com.au > > FreX - CHIamp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Thankyou Ken! Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying is, in fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this forum: If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless endeavour) then square waves are great at splattering all the stray harmonics you could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then use the sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's not the power, it's the precision. " Thankyou Ken, Your friend, Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Hi , I am just tossing my two cents into the ring to see if anyone picks them up: Searching to destroy microorganisms is like putting a bandaid on the problem, whereas cellular regeneration eliminates all effect of that organism as well as regeneration of any damage resultant from its invasion and occupation of the body. It is further a case wherein we can prevent that or other microorganisms from ever entering the body again. Hmmm, do we put a bandaid on the cut and let it heal up on the outside or do we regenerate the entire area so that the cut " never happened " biologically speaking? Best Wishes, Ian MacLeod Hyatt wrote: Ken: In a spectrum breakdown of a 528Hz square wave at 50% duty cycle, the odd harmonics plus the fundamental is there. So if something, perhaps a tuned circuit (or body function) is 528Hz, it would indeed resonant with the square wave. The power as you mentioned is spread out in a wider spectrum, so the 528Hz is less effective versus its sine. I haven't followed Dr. MacLeod comments too closely but it seems he operates at the fundamental sine to work in some form of harmony with the body and its organs. On the other hand, if are you trying to destory a microrganism, the square wave has been proven emperically to be the most disruptive. Ken Uzzell wrote: To Dr. Ian MacLeod Ph.D. & members, Dear Ian, I have been using sine waves and the Rife/Crane audio frequencies in a little contact pad system. There is definately a difference in feel and body response between these two wave types. A square wave that holds up under body load delivers a rich array of harmoinics, and the signal can resonant at the harmonics, but not at the frequency itself. I.E. 528Hz as a square wave can resonant at its harmonics, but it doesn't cause resonance to occur at 528Hz. On the other hand, the sine wave lacks harmonics, but it has alot of power at the output frequency and it does cause resonance at the output frequency. So you get a good opportunity for 528Hz to cause a resonance response in the body at 528Hz. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Re: Sine and Square waves Hi , I am just tossing my two cents into the ring to see if anyone picks them up: Searching to destroy microorganisms is like putting a bandaid on the problem, whereas cellular regeneration eliminates all effect of that organism as well as regeneration of any damage resultant from its invasion and occupation of the body. It is further a case wherein we can prevent that or other microorganisms from ever entering the body again. Hmmm, do we put a bandaid on the cut and let it heal up on the outside or do we regenerate the entire area so that the cut " never happened " biologically speaking? Best Wishes, Ian MacLeod ======================= Ian, Royal Rife himself said that unless the terrain of the body is corrected, the disease will come back. Most of the people I know of, who use Rife or other frequency healing, work on regenerating the system as well. Having worked with various electromedical devices to help restore cell function, I recognize and respect the very focused work you are doing on cell regeneration. However, I see no reason to dismiss the focus of microbe destruction and elimination. Sometimes, the killing of excess harmful microorganisms is just what the body needs in order to " catch up " with the job of healing itself. I would think that some people are so weak from pathogens that have proliferated in their body, they don't have time to wait until their cells regenerate. (Unless your method works within days for stage IV cancer, full-blown HIV, and advanced Lyme. Does it?) Of course the terrain needs to be corrected, and cell function has to be optimal. But why can't both approaches be seen as useful? Just asking. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 RE: Ian's comments. Germs do not invade the body, they are the body's back-up immune system and are created via a pleomorphic transformation determined by the pH of the extracelloular fluids. Invasion is the Pasteur Germ Theory which was long ago debunked. To quote Rudolph Virschow: “If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural habitat - diseased tissue - rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue; e.g., mosquitos seek the stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant.” Rudolf Virchow (1821-1902) (Father of the Cell-Unit doctrine, or “Modern Vitalism.”) -- Re: Sine and Square waves Re: Sine and Square waves Hi , I am just tossing my two cents into the ring to see if anyone picks them up: Searching to destroy microorganisms is like putting a bandaid on the problem, whereas cellular regeneration eliminates all effect of that organism as well as regeneration of any damage resultant from its invasion and occupation of the body. It is further a case wherein we can prevent that or other microorganisms from ever entering the body again. Hmmm, do we put a bandaid on the cut and let it heal up on the outside or do we regenerate the entire area so that the cut " never happened " biologically speaking? Best Wishes, Ian MacLeod ======================= Ian, Royal Rife himself said that unless the terrain of the body is corrected, the disease will come back. Most of the people I know of, who use Rife or other frequency healing, work on regenerating the system as well. Having worked with various electromedical devices to help restore cell function, I recognize and respect the very focused work you are doing on cell regeneration. However, I see no reason to dismiss the focus of microbe destruction and elimination. Sometimes, the killing of excess harmful microorganisms is just what the body needs in order to " catch up " with the job of healing itself. I would think that some people are so weak from pathogens that have proliferated in their body, they don't have time to wait until their cells regenerate. (Unless your method works within days for stage IV cancer, full-blown HIV, and advanced Lyme. Does it?) Of course the terrain needs to be corrected, and cell function has to be optimal. But why can't both approaches be seen as useful? Just asking. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 > > > To Dr. Ian MacLeod Ph.D. & members, > > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > I have been using sine waves and the Rife/Crane audio > frequencies in > > a little contact pad system. There is definately a difference in > feel > > and body response between these two wave types. > > > > > > A square wave that holds up under body load delivers a rich > array of > > harmoinics, and the signal can resonant at the harmonics, but not > at > > the frequency itself. > > > > > > I.E. 528Hz as a square wave can resonant at its harmonics, but it > > doesn't cause resonance to occur at 528Hz. > > > > > > On the other hand, the sine wave lacks harmonics, but it has > alot of > > power at the output frequency and it does cause resonance at the > > output frequency. So you get a good opportunity for 528Hz to cause > a > > resonance response in the body at 528Hz. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ken Uzzell > > > http://heal-me.com.au > > > FreX - CHIamp > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Dear Ian, Are there many healing frequencies that one would need to target like the number of Rife frequencies, or are there just a few that one would need? > > Thankyou Ken! > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying is, in fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this forum: > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless endeavour) then square waves are great at splattering all the stray harmonics you could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then use the sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's not the power, it's the precision. " > > Thankyou Ken, > > Your friend, > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > --------------------------------- > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm jumping in with my own thoughts related to sine and square waves, please carry on regardless, it is not my intent to disrupt any particular sub-conversations, I'm simply taking the last post on this subject title and responding. My math skills are certainly rusty, I've had no need for any higher math beyond simple addition and subtraction for some 20+ years ... but anyway: sine wave f(y)= sin(x) Square wave (this appears as a 50% duty cycle) f(y)= sin(x) + (sin(3x)/3) + (sin(5x)/5) + (sin(7x)/7) + (sin(9x)/9) + .... (sin(nx)/n) where n is always odd. Because of the divisor in each additional harmonic wave, (such as (sin(9x)/9)) the amplitude of that particular frequency is reduced. Because the amplitude is reduced in the higher frequency harmonics, the power is also reduced relative to any constant total current. I haven't tried to study the area under each curve, that should probably not be ignored, but just by looking at a graph of any of the high-level harmonics gives us a visual confirmation that the area is indeed much smaller. Therefore, several power strategies are implied, but one strategy logistic maximizes power at the desired single frequency of resonance. But what frequency is that? The CAFL list seems a jumbled mix that probably includes numbers for most of the common types of machines 'through the years' that have been used. In other words, many different machines. In fact, wasn't it recently explained in a series of postings on this group how Rife's 1939 Beam Ray replica device didn't seem to work in the same way as Rife's earlier machines were said to work? Since harmonics seems so tied into the theory or theories that Rife followers have passed to each other, and that many different machines have been used over the years, no doubt each machine with its unique idiosyncrasies and resulting skewed waveforms and harmonic spectrums, the CAFL numbers sets, for particular conditions, are likely much more complex than they need to be. Obviously, this has implications for the time spent in treatment. Its been said that Rife himself espoused square waves, so the audio frequencies that are the predominate in CAFL sets are likely to not be the fundamental at which resonance occurs. This implies that the power used at resonance when using treatments from CAFL is likely reduced by some unknown number of divisor, depending upon the number of harmonic levels the resonance frequency is from the fundamental of the square wave applied, and it's likely that this level of power reduction is essentially unknown to those who only have access to the CAFL list, which seems to be many. I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and proposed a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that the question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody knows, or that those who do know choose not to say. The motive for the question I asked was that because our bodies are mostly water, they likely act to block signals to some degree. The water in our bodies is not distilled water, obviously, there are many electrolytic components and chemicals in the mix, and those components would likely be different in the blood versus cartilage, I write likely because I don't know the precise chemistry involved, nor do I particularly care to know such minutia. It's well known that distilled water is an insulator and doesn't conduct electricity, it can be used to block signals, so it seems to follow that the amounts of electrolytic elements in various tissues would factor in to the conduction or blocking of waves as they travel through various tissues. From this, it would seem that there's some critical power level, on the average body, under which transmission signals such as sine waves would not be effectively passed through 'all' tissues. Not knowing this power level could be the difference between success and failure. The main point of all of the above is that the difference between the fundamental frequency used and the harmonic frequency at which resonance occurs relates to the reduction in power of the resonance frequency when using square waves from an audio source. The power level required is still likely critical when using sine waves, but there is no additional guessing or calculation as to what the distance is between the resonance frequency and fundamental used, this simplifies the whole process. It's also probably street wise to realize that there will always be some entities who seek to intentionally obfuscate any precise and simple technique. > > > > Thankyou Ken! > > > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying > is, in fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this > forum: > > > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless > endeavour) then square waves are great at splattering all the stray > harmonics you could desire. If you want a specific resonant > frequency then use the sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area > because ... " It's not the power, it's the precision. " > > > > Thankyou Ken, > > > > Your friend, > > > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy > changes to Yahoo! Groups. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi Ian and Members, I can only comment about what I have seen. I'm not an expert here. When running our scanner software, using sine waves, we get a lead up of signal excitation that comes in waves over a bandwidth of sometimes 100Hz, and the main resonant event where the signal goes wild is usually only a few Hz in width. Either side of this fundamental resonating frequency is a pattern of sine wave shaped bandwidths of much smaller resonating signals. It is like all the smaller signals in excitation either side of the main resonant event's frequency appear as minor resonant events or shadows of the fundamental resonating frequency, or they could be a requirement and the amplification process of the signal resonating. The scanner software is not able to detect if the fundamental and harmonics of a square wave are able to produce a resonance event, as it requires a sine wave to detect resonance. I've detected a resonance event in friends with my G/R machine. It outputs audio square waves on a 250kHz square wave carrier through a plasma tube with two electrodes inside it. When you find these frequencies in people, it's possible with good feedback from the person to wind the frequencies all though the resonance bandwidth, and their response is the same intensities that mirror the resonating signals our scanner finds in electronic circuits. One is a trace chart, the other is a " feeling " in the body. My G/R is not able to produce sine waves, but am building an EMEM that can do both, sine and square so I cover all bases ;-) When using contact electrodes, there is a very different " feeling " of the electron flow between sine waves and square waves. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp Re: Sine and Square waves > Thankyou Ken! > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying is, in > fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this forum: > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless endeavour) > then square waves are great at splattering all the stray harmonics you > could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then use the > sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's not the > power, it's the precision. " > > Thankyou Ken, > > Your friend, > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > --------------------------------- > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to > Yahoo! Groups. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and proposed a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that the question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody knows, or that those who do know choose not to say. " I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal tiisues. The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and will probably have less resistance than the skin. Regards, Ken Uzzell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Great Question! At present we are narrowing that list of frequencies from what was thousands to only dozens. These dozens are to be used in different combinations " back-to-back " as opposed to harmonic usage. Let you know when I know. Ian martin7730 wrote: Dear Ian, Are there many healing frequencies that one would need to target like the number of Rife frequencies, or are there just a few that one would need? > > Thankyou Ken! > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying is, in fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this forum: > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless endeavour) then square waves are great at splattering all the stray harmonics you could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then use the sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's not the power, it's the precision. " > > Thankyou Ken, > > Your friend, > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > --------------------------------- > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Just a snipet here Ken. I recently tried keying a 5 watt CB radio ( tiny wattage ) with my zapper output and at 5 hertz keying ( modulating )I can assure you that the 5 hz does modulate my eyesight when I hook it up to a CB whip aerial...So I conclude that this small amount of power radiated can effectively be used to penetrate every bit of the body... Best Noel > > > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and proposed > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that the > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody knows, > or that those who do know choose not to say. " > > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal tiisues. > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and will probably > have less resistance than the skin. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 " Keying " a CB radio to " see " a ciliary muscle modulation (if that's what silverlofts means) is a fabulous practical test. Thank you for mentioning it. Part of my research into CB radios have indicated that very few actually transmit at 5 watts, many so-called " 5-watt " models are said to be of only 1 watt of power or less. I'd like to observe that ciliary muscles are not 'deep tissues' in a permittivity sense, though the " PillCam " (found since asking the original question) with it's unknown carrier/modulation frequencies and power level would seem to suggest that some frequency range does penetrate the average body to at least the abdominal cavity and through the intestinal tissues. > > > I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and proposed > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that the > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody knows, > or that those who do know choose not to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Simpletrend you might be onto something. > > > > > > Thankyou Ken! > > > > > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying > > is, in fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this > > forum: > > > > > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless > > endeavour) then square waves are great at splattering all the stray > > harmonics you could desire. If you want a specific resonant > > frequency then use the sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area > > because ... " It's not the power, it's the precision. " > > > > > > Thankyou Ken, > > > > > > Your friend, > > > > > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy > > changes to Yahoo! Groups. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi Ken, Are we talking about a standard EMEM or something special. I always thought that EMEM's were squarewave devices. > > Hi Ian and Members, > > I can only comment about what I have seen. I'm not an expert here. When > running our scanner software, using sine waves, we get a lead up of signal > excitation that comes in waves over a bandwidth of sometimes 100Hz, and the > main resonant event where the signal goes wild is usually only a few Hz in > width. Either side of this fundamental resonating frequency is a pattern of > sine wave shaped bandwidths of much smaller resonating signals. > > It is like all the smaller signals in excitation either side of the main > resonant event's frequency appear as minor resonant events or shadows of the > fundamental resonating frequency, or they could be a requirement and the > amplification process of the signal resonating. > > The scanner software is not able to detect if the fundamental and harmonics > of a square wave are able to produce a resonance event, as it requires a > sine wave to detect resonance. > > I've detected a resonance event in friends with my G/R machine. It outputs > audio square waves on a 250kHz square wave carrier through a plasma tube > with two electrodes inside it. When you find these frequencies in people, > it's possible with good feedback from the person to wind the frequencies all > though the resonance bandwidth, and their response is the same intensities > that mirror the resonating signals our scanner finds in electronic circuits. > > One is a trace chart, the other is a " feeling " in the body. My G/R is not > able to produce sine waves, but am building an EMEM that can do both, sine > and square so I cover all bases ;-) > > When using contact electrodes, there is a very different " feeling " of the > electron flow between sine waves and square waves. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > http://heal-me.com.au > FreX - CHIamp > > Re: Sine and Square waves > > > > Thankyou Ken! > > > > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying is, in > > fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this forum: > > > > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless endeavour) > > then square waves are great at splattering all the stray harmonics you > > could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then use the > > sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's not the > > power, it's the precision. " > > > > Thankyou Ken, > > > > Your friend, > > > > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to > > Yahoo! Groups. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi Ken, I am glad you raised this point. Looking at a standard zapper which claims to kill all bacteria, fungus etc I have yet to see someone try to challenge these claims. If only I had a micrscope I would try this myself. By the way is there a cheap device which would allow me to see bacteria. > > > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and proposed > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that the > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody knows, > or that those who do know choose not to say. " > > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal tiisues. > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and will probably > have less resistance than the skin. > > Regards, > Ken Uzzell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi Ken, You hear alot about different types of zappers. It is known that Einstein Medical School found that straight DC or 60 cycle sine wave worked the same in killing viruses when current was applied directly to the blood. From personal experiences applying it to handheld electrodes seems to work good for me. One thing I've noticed is that if I do it for at least a half hour a day, I don't have use any deordorant. Hulda used a sine wave with with a plus and minus amplitude at a particular frequency to kill a virus or whatever. She soon realized that just a plus amplitude killed many different pathogens regardless of frequency. This is my own opinion that pulsing with only a plus amplitude did nothing more then apply a DC current which when averaged out applied enough DC current to make it effective. When she applied both plus and minus applitudes, she had to apply the correct frequency to be effective. My present design pulses at about 1 hertz both plus and minus amplitudes to prevent any effects of electroporation. I may slow it down even more, but I am still in the testing stage with nothing more then annecdotal evidence to present. > > > > > > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the > > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and > proposed > > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that > the > > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody > knows, > > or that those who do know choose not to say. " > > > > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal > tiisues. > > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and will > probably > > have less resistance than the skin. > > > > Regards, > > Ken Uzzell > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi , The Bob Beck BE has been used for over 10 years and applies a ~30VAC, 4Hz square wave to the wrist (originally used on both ankles). These are very popular, and definitely work. Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... m> Hi Ken, m> You hear alot about different types of zappers. It is known that m> Einstein Medical School found that straight DC or 60 cycle sine wave m> worked the same in killing viruses when current was applied directly m> to the blood. From personal experiences applying it to handheld m> electrodes seems to work good for me. One thing I've noticed is that m> if I do it for at least a half hour a day, I don't have use any m> deordorant. m> Hulda used a sine wave with with a plus and minus amplitude at m> a particular frequency to kill a virus or whatever. She soon realized m> that just a plus amplitude killed many different pathogens regardless m> of frequency. m> This is my own opinion that pulsing with only a plus amplitude did m> nothing more then apply a DC current which when averaged out applied m> enough DC current to make it effective. When she applied both plus m> and minus applitudes, she had to apply the correct frequency to be m> effective. m> My present design pulses at about 1 hertz both plus and minus m> amplitudes to prevent any effects of electroporation. I may slow it m> down even more, but I am still in the testing stage with nothing more m> then annecdotal evidence to present. m> m> >> > >> > >> > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the >> > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and >> proposed >> > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that >> the >> > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody >> knows, >> > or that those who do know choose not to say. " >> > >> > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal >> tiisues. >> > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and m> will >> probably >> > have less resistance than the skin. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ken Uzzell >> > >> m> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi Xeender, With most transformers (including ignition " coils " ) if you apply a clean square wave to the primary there won't be a clean waveform at the secondary. A sine wave would be much more appropriate if you want a clean waveform. When you apply a pulsed voltage to the primary of a transformer it is changed into magnetic energy, then back into electricity as it comes out the secondary. So this is a 3-step process (electric current - electromagnetism - electric current). A square wave is rather awkward as it's going through these changes. Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... X> Hi Ken, X> Are we talking about a standard EMEM or something special. I always X> thought that EMEM's were squarewave devices. X> >> >> Hi Ian and Members, >> >> I can only comment about what I have seen. I'm not an expert here. X> When >> running our scanner software, using sine waves, we get a lead up X> of signal >> excitation that comes in waves over a bandwidth of sometimes X> 100Hz, and the >> main resonant event where the signal goes wild is usually only a X> few Hz in >> width. Either side of this fundamental resonating frequency is a X> pattern of >> sine wave shaped bandwidths of much smaller resonating signals. >> >> It is like all the smaller signals in excitation either side of X> the main >> resonant event's frequency appear as minor resonant events or X> shadows of the >> fundamental resonating frequency, or they could be a requirement X> and the >> amplification process of the signal resonating. >> >> The scanner software is not able to detect if the fundamental and X> harmonics >> of a square wave are able to produce a resonance event, as it X> requires a >> sine wave to detect resonance. >> >> I've detected a resonance event in friends with my G/R machine. It X> outputs >> audio square waves on a 250kHz square wave carrier through a X> plasma tube >> with two electrodes inside it. When you find these frequencies in X> people, >> it's possible with good feedback from the person to wind the X> frequencies all >> though the resonance bandwidth, and their response is the same X> intensities >> that mirror the resonating signals our scanner finds in electronic X> circuits. >> >> One is a trace chart, the other is a " feeling " in the body. My G/R X> is not >> able to produce sine waves, but am building an EMEM that can do X> both, sine >> and square so I cover all bases ;-) >> >> When using contact electrodes, there is a very different " feeling " X> of the >> electron flow between sine waves and square waves. >> >> Regards, >> Ken Uzzell >> http://heal-me.com.au >> FreX - CHIamp >> >> Re: Sine and Square waves >> >> >> > Thankyou Ken! >> > >> > Please pay attention folks with questions. What Ken is saying X> is, in >> > fact, what we have been saying for a very long time on this X> forum: >> > >> > If you want harmonics (which our team has found a worthless X> endeavour) >> > then square waves are great at splattering all the stray X> harmonics you >> > could desire. If you want a specific resonant frequency then X> use the >> > sinusoidal waveform and hit your target area because ... " It's X> not the >> > power, it's the precision. " >> > >> > Thankyou Ken, >> > >> > Your friend, >> > >> > Dr. Ian MacLeod, Ph.D. >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy X> changes to >> > Yahoo! Groups. >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi Bil, I am coming more to that conclusion as well. I want to boost the voltage from a 9 volt battery through a DC-DC IC chip up to 30 plus volts. I will have to use a sine wave or at least a much slower rise and fall time to tolerate the current. > >> > > >> > > >> > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the > >> > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and > >> proposed > >> > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that > >> the > >> > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody > >> knows, > >> > or that those who do know choose not to say. " > >> > > >> > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal > >> tiisues. > >> > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and > m> will > >> probably > >> > have less resistance than the skin. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Ken Uzzell > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > m> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Bil Green wrote: " > With most transformers (including ignition " coils " ) if you apply > a clean square wave to the primary there won't be a clean > waveform at the secondary. " This is the same conclusion I made from tests using a function generator on two different classes of coils, iron, and various ferrite flybacks. I delineated the tests' results at the RifeConstructionGroup several months or weeks back. I would not feel comfortable making the assumption that a nice, clean sine wave input into an automotive coil results in a similarly nice and clean sine wave output. > > Hi Ken, > > Are we talking about a standard EMEM or something special. I always > thought that EMEM's were squarewave devices. > >snip< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Hi , Contact Linear Technologies (best to speak to one of their engineers and tell them exactly what you're doing) for the most efficient low voltage converter chip (they have many). I've seen 5VDC to +/-15VDC (30VDC output) and also 12VDC converters, but never a 9V. Using the 5V device will be extremely inefficient. I can send you the schematic for the one I built 8 years ago. About 80% efficient (using a LT chip). Bil PC 1000 M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator http://magpulser.com Mammoth Lakes, CA mailto:magpulser@... m> Hi Bil, m> I am coming more to that conclusion as well. I want to boost the m> voltage from a 9 volt battery through a DC-DC IC chip up to 30 plus m> volts. I will have to use a sine wave or at least a much slower rise m> and fall time to tolerate the current. m> m> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the >> >> > transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and >> >> proposed >> >> > a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact m> that >> >> the >> >> > question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody >> >> knows, >> >> > or that those who do know choose not to say. " >> >> > >> >> > I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the m> internal >> >> tiisues. >> >> > The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and >> m> will >> >> probably >> >> > have less resistance than the skin. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Ken Uzzell >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> m> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Dear Uzo, What's been touted as the great challenge in this Rife forum by Ringas, is to grow a Yeast culture and kill it with its MOR (10,000Hz) - no one has done this yet that I am aware of. You can probably see a Yeast culture at 60x, or 200x. Most student microscopes will take you there. It is probably much more difficult killing Yeast in a Petri dish than it is in the body. At least when it is in the body, you have the body's system to assist. Dr Rife placed bacteria in dead horse meat, and zapped it there, but dead horse meat doesn't have the dynamic electromagnetic powers that flow through an " alive " body, nor is its immune intelligence operative. I have hear people do before and after blood analysis to view the effect of frequency therapy on living persons, and I have been told this displays more dead microbes in the blood after the Rifing, than before it, but medical authorities don't recognise these tests, as they always question the skills and abilities of the the researcher doing the tests. Otherwise, it would be a world wide accepted fact that Rife works. I believe microscopes that can be used to view blood are very expensive. has a " Rifer's " microscope on the boil, and I look forward to his announcement when it is ready. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au FreX - CHIamp Re: Sine and Square waves > Hi Ken, > > I am glad you raised this point. Looking at a standard zapper which > claims to kill all bacteria, fungus etc I have yet to see someone > try to challenge these claims. If only I had a micrscope I would try > this myself. By the way is there a cheap device which would allow me > to see bacteria. > > >> >> >> " I believe I recently asked a question on this list about the >> transmitting power required to penetrate all the tissues, and > proposed >> a test that is relatively simple, and regardless of the fact that > the >> question seemed to be ignored, it's also possible that nobody > knows, >> or that those who do know choose not to say. " >> >> I'd be worried about getting the power this close to the internal > tiisues. >> The desending colon is not skin, it is a fasica substance and will > probably >> have less resistance than the skin. >> >> Regards, >> Ken Uzzell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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