Re: Blood Work Lab Results - Supplementation Inquiry

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I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that

concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003 wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid

25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks!

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Hi, Yes he has been on Diflucan for 23 days now. I have been googling all these results tonight. I am definitely going to see if we can get in to see the doctor tomorrow. Thanks.Beth Sutton wrote: I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry

about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on

the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to

understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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Hey Rhonda, I'll be in Dr. G's office on Monday if that's when you are going to be there...  CherylHi, Yes he has been on Diflucan for 23 days now.  I have been googling all these results tonight. I am definitely going to see if we can get in to see the doctor tomorrow. Thanks.Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote:I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours....His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit.  You would not want creatinine to be out of range high.  Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources.  Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world.  Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on.  Are you on Diflucan or anything?  Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number.  Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that.  It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet.  I have not had that tested in  my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator.  My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity"  Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much.  My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb.   I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know.......simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote:Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks!Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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my son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton wrote: I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son

is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your

pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I

have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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When our doctor sees high esoinophils he immediately questions diet - this is an allergen response.Cherylmy son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote:I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours....His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit.  You would not want creatinine to be out of range high.  Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources.  Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world.  Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on.  Are you on Diflucan or anything?  Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number.  Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that.  It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet.  I have not had that tested in  my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator.  My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity"  Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much.  My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb.   I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know.......simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote:Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks!Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Yes, me too but he is on SCD and eats barely nothing...but i guess it could be a new allergy that he developed-- should we repeat the food allergy panel to see if something new has developed? on SCD he is regressing somewhat and we cannot figure it out..Cheryl Lowrance wrote: When our doctor sees high esoinophils he immediately questions diet - this is an allergen response. Cheryl my son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote: I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN!

says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab

Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H!

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Hi....we've been living an eosinophil nightmare...mine were elevated during my pregnancy and I was diagnosed with rhuematoid arthritis (it was evil...more like fibromyalgia+RA+AGITATION) and I was put on steroids, ibuprofin.....90% resolution for me with diet, nystatin and diflucan along with "super greens". My little guy had gut issues from the get go...and was diagnosed with eosinophilic esaughagus and later entercolitis. We've done it all on the in the NYC area. We just had our first decent scope in 2.5 years...In march we started an herbal program (AOP) and by August his lagging lymphocyte count was normal, monocytes slightly high (creatinine still low) then last Wednesday more scopes (and rob that blood bank while he's out)....the eosinophils are almost gone (some in distal esaughagus with hiatal hernia--not allergic in nature) and his monocyte count is even higher (a good sign as he steadily makes developmental progress). Eosinophils and monocytes get to work on parasites. Here's the clincher...we just delivered 15 poop samples on Monday (7 more to go--this is no fun!) on my older son and one test is back--Giardia. So I google that during lunch and can't even begin to isolate where he/we got that....Our GI is stunned, but pulling out all the stops to get as much done in network as possible.

Diet is important....carbs/starches and sugars gotta go. More labs to go...and then we can address metals...but kinda diggin our Myhrr for yeast etc....no sinus/ear infections...no adverse reactions (nystatin and diflucan was so so)....and no more antibiotics...my older one just broke out in rashes with Anilia and Flagyl. My little guy doesn't tolerate the antibiotics...but all his reactions are so delayed.

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Re: Blood Work Lab Results - Supplementation Inquiry

When our doctor sees high esoinophils he immediately questions diet - this is an allergen response.

Cheryl

my son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote:

I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours....

His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know.......

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Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks!

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Re: Blood Work Lab Results - Supplementation Inquiry

Yes, me too but he is on SCD and eats barely nothing...but i guess it could be a new allergy that he developed-- should we repeat the food allergy panel to see if something new has developed? on SCD he is regressing somewhat and we cannot figure it out..Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowranceca (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

When our doctor sees high esoinophils he immediately questions diet - this is an allergen response.

Cheryl

my son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote:

I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours....

His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know.......

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Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks!

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range for Creatine and has been having symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high-- anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...Beth Sutton <live4luke> wrote: I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a

tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the

internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003

<simple_treasure2003> wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007

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High protein can be a problem (ammonia?); nut butter can contain high

copper and/or argnine, both of which can be problems. Lot of reasons

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> I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the

> following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week

> to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN!

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> supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a

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> supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly

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> Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8

> AST 57H 15-46

> ALK Phos 230H 80-220

> Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100

> Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9

> Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187

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Beth, Thank you for your insight. It turns out that our son is a perfect candidate for Vitamin K2 Protocol based on his lab results. He has "all the usual suspects" out of range - calcium is high, alkaline phosphatase is high, and lactic acid is high. Other listmates have stated that children have developed osteoporosis if untreated. Our DAN! modified the Antifungal dosage to address the mild elevation of AST results and added Milk Thistle for additonal liver support. Just thought I'd share this information with the rest of the group. Beth Sutton wrote: I'm not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than yours.... His creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high. Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there is some definite liver stress going

on. Are you on Diflucan or anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number. Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec. 55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says 1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I know....... simple_treasure2003 <simple_treasure2003> wrote: Hello,I have received lab results back for my 2.5 year old son and the following items are out of range. I have an appointment next week to discuss the results and supplementation needs with our DAN! I'm hoping to do a sanity check with the group to understand what supplements would be necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a tendency to be over zealous in attempting to sell us many supplements carried in the office. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.Lab Results Ref RangeCreatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8AST 57H 15-46ALK Phos 230H 80-220Vitamin D25, D2 10L 20-100Lactid Acid 25.6 H! 6.3-18.9Copper 178 (Normal/H!) 87-187Thanks! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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If the eosinophils are high, the allergic reaction is likely to be

environmental - not foods. The eosinophil response is to histamine

production. Parasites are another possibility to consider with high

eosinophils. His stimming could be a response to either of these

factors.

As for elevated creatinine, this can be a complicated issue that should

be investigated by a health care provider before determining treatment.

Good luck.

Clack

Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

When our doctor sees high esoinophils he immediately questions

diet - this is an allergen response.

Cheryl

my

son's labs came back at the high range for Creatine and has been having

symptoms of running to bathroom alot and nothing coming out..dr says no

worries but he is not a DAN dr and his Eosonophils were also high--

anything i can do to help get these two in range...he has lots of

stimming with string, eye pushing and hyperactive and is non verbal on

SCD for four weeks now...any insights are appreciated...

Beth

Sutton <live4luke>

wrote:

I'm

not a pro at this, by any means, but I am and nurse with some

background in biomedical and my son is just a little younger than

yours....

His

creatinine (which is the main indicator of kidney function) is a little

low--I wouldn't worry about that too much--during detox, that may bump

up a bit. You would not want creatinine to be out of range high.

Calcium a tad high which doesn't necessarily mean he has enough but may

mean he's taking out of bone sources. Essential minerals I think are

best for determining true Calcium status but just a tenth of a point

high is not a big deal in the medical world. Your DAN! will have more

comments about this. AST is definitely high and concerning--there

is some definite liver stress going on. Are you on Diflucan or

anything? Alk phos is typically elevated in toddlers during growth

spurts, however, consistent elevation can also mean gluten allergy or

other things but I wouldn't be that concerned about that number.

Lactic acid is high--his body is under stress, for sure--your

pediatrician and DAN! should know about that. It could mean a variety

of things, infection, improper metabolism, etc.--look up Lactic

acidosis on the internet. I have not had that tested in my son but

that is definitely a red flag. Vitamin D I'm unsure about but I know a

lot of kids are deficient in Vit D which is also a good immune

modulator. My son's copper level was 150 and Pfeiffer Treatment said

that was "sever copper toxicity" Are you giving zinc yet?? They rec.

55mg zinc/d for my son but I don't give that much. My DAN! says

1mg/body weight lb. I'm sure others will chime in but that's all I

know.......

simple_treasure2003

<simple_treasure2003>

wrote:

Hello,

I have received lab

results back for my 2.5 year old son and the

following items are out

of range. I have an appointment next week

to discuss the results

and supplementation needs with our DAN!

I'm hoping to do a

sanity check with the group to understand what

supplements would be

necessary for my child. Our DAN! has a

tendency to be over

zealous in attempting to sell us many

supplements carried in

the office. Your feedback would be greatly

appreciated.

Lab Results Ref Range

Creatine 0.4L 0.7 - 1.5

Calcium 10.9H 8.8 - 10.8

AST 57H 15-46

ALK Phos 230H 80-220

Vitamin D25, D2 10L

20-100

Lactid Acid 25.6 H!

6.3-18.9

Copper 178 (Normal/H!)

87-187

Thanks!

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