Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 You may want to check out the website www.enzymestuff.com It may help him with digestion ..The charcoal helps with die off. --- Sally Averkamp wrote: > An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our > 18 yr old > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some > activated charcoal at > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100 > antiviral and he was > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was > smiling--and it > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen > him in years! > > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE > caused by > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then > today, when he > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I > asked what he had > for lunch at school and he said, " Pizza. " I am > wondering if he has a > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that. > > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3 > months recently. He > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any > particular food allergy; > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was > cheating. Blood > tests only show that he has a yeast problem. > > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated > charcoal that I am > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins > in the gut to > see if an introduced food bothers our kids? > > Sally > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I'm not sure how much charcoal is safe. We have to be very careful with it as it also absorbs medication and nutrients. I have slowed down the probiotics so the die off isn't so bad, and we use alot of epsom salt baths. Jeanne and 3 months gf/cf/soy/corn scd diet adhd at 2 years epilepsy Fund wrote: You may want to check out the websitewww.enzymestuff.com It may help him with digestion.The charcoal helps with die off.--- Sally Averkamp <saverkampsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:> An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our> 18 yr old > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some> activated charcoal at > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100> antiviral and he was > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was> smiling--and it > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen> him in years!> > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE> caused by > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then> today, when he > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I> asked what he had > for lunch at school and he said, "Pizza." I am> wondering if he has a > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that.> > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3> months recently. He > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any> particular food allergy; > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was> cheating. Blood > tests only show that he has a yeast problem.> > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated> charcoal that I am > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins> in the gut to > see if an introduced food bothers our kids?> > Sally> > __________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Sally, Our DAN has told us it can be used safely on a regular basis. I know people who give it immediately after an infraction. Your son probably did well on SCD because he was able to easily digest everything he was eating. Many of our kids have problems w/food not because of a particular allergy but because they can't break down much of what they are ingesting. If he had pizza, gluten and casein can both be difficult to digest. My kids also have problems w/phenols (tomatoes). Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Sally AverkampSent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:13 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Activated Charcoal An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our 18 yr old Aspergers son (with severe depression) some activated charcoal at 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100 antiviral and he was very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was smiling--and it lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen him in years!It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE caused by something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then today, when he came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I asked what he had for lunch at school and he said, "Pizza." I am wondering if he has a dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that.We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3 months recently. He did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any particular food allergy; the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was cheating. Blood tests only show that he has a yeast problem.Does anyone know of a down-side of activated charcoal that I am unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins in the gut to see if an introduced food bothers our kids?Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 The charcoal can cause constipationJeanne Colla wrote: I'm not sure how much charcoal is safe. We have to be very careful with it as it also absorbs medication and nutrients. I have slowed down the probiotics so the die off isn't so bad, and we use alot of epsom salt baths. Jeanne and 3 months gf/cf/soy/corn scd diet adhd at 2 years epilepsy Fund <susan_fund> wrote: You may want to check out the websitewww.enzymestuff.com It may help him with digestion.The charcoal helps with die off.--- Sally Averkamp <saverkampsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:> An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our> 18 yr old > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some> activated charcoal at > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100> antiviral and he was > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was> smiling--and it > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen> him in years!> > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE> caused by > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then> today, when he > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I> asked what he had > for lunch at school and he said, "Pizza." I am> wondering if he has a > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that.> > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3> months recently. He > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any> particular food allergy; > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was> cheating. Blood > tests only show that he has a yeast problem.> > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated> charcoal that I am > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins> in the gut to > see if an introduced food bothers our kids?> > Sally> > __________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Sally, How long has he been on the LDM100? We've found stool issues with many of the kids, with and without the rash. If it's in the first week or two we have found some soft stools and digestive upset as they pass a lot of dead viruses. Generally the herb itself does not cause a lot of stress, but the large amount of toxins as the viruses die can overwhelm the system, rash or not. The LDM100 not only kills the virus, it also makes the cell slippery so the virus claws fall off the cells. Rita > > > An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our > > 18 yr old > > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some > > activated charcoal at > > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100 > > antiviral and he was > > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was > > smiling--and it > > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen > > him in years! > > > > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE > > caused by > > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then > > today, when he > > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I > > asked what he had > > for lunch at school and he said, " Pizza. " I am > > wondering if he has a > > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that. > > > > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3 > > months recently. He > > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any > > particular food allergy; > > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was > > cheating. Blood > > tests only show that he has a yeast problem. > > > > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated > > charcoal that I am > > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins > > in the gut to > > see if an introduced food bothers our kids? > > > > Sally > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Just a suggestion but I would see if you could get him to really stick to GF/CF. For his age and size it would probably take at least 3 to 4 months to show improvement. If he cheated at all it would bring you back to square one. Maybe thats why you didnt see huge benefits? The part about depression just makes sense for GF/CF to me : ) Re: Activated Charcoal Rita,My ds, , is now on Diflucan and Virastop and I tried the LDM100 again (starting with 5 drops x2 daily). He gets a bit hyper but it is tolerable. I am continuing with that and slowly increasing the dose. Somehow, I think the yeast is causing his depression and the LDM100 must have done something to the yeast (was the depression die-off?). Interesting that the Diflucan caused no die-off.I had put the LDM100 on the back burner but after reading these posts in the past days, I thought I would try it again and am glad to get some response from him that we can live with.sally> > > > > An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our> > > 18 yr old > > > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some> > > activated charcoal at > > > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100> > > antiviral and he was > > > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was> > > smiling--and it > > > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen> > > him in years!> > > > > > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE> > > caused by > > > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then> > > today, when he > > > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I> > > asked what he had > > > for lunch at school and he said, "Pizza." I am> > > wondering if he has a > > > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that.> > > > > > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3> > > months recently. He > > > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any> > > particular food allergy; > > > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was> > > cheating. Blood > > > tests only show that he has a yeast problem.> > > > > > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated> > > charcoal that I am > > > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins> > > in the gut to > > > see if an introduced food bothers our kids?> > > > > > Sally> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Yahoo! Search. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sally, See Lorina's post #27521. She addresses the LDM100/yeast issue too. Yes, we have found that yeast can kick up with the die off. We've heard that with the release/killing of the viruses can also release other toxins that it was holding on to (ie metals), which in turn kicks up even more yeast. Depending on the case, a mild chelator with the LDM100 has been used. As to not overload the immune system, our doctors are NOT using strong chelators (ie DMPS)with the LDM100. Instead are using Detoxamin/EDTA to help mop up the newly stirred up toxins. All of this toxic movement can stir up yeast. We've been keeping an eye on the child and upped our yeast protocols, again we are working with a trained doctor (my son also did weekly GOOD Ionic Foot Baths to assist in detoxing the toxin dump). Rita > > > > > > > An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our > > > > 18 yr old > > > > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some > > > > activated charcoal at > > > > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100 > > > > antiviral and he was > > > > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was > > > > smiling--and it > > > > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen > > > > him in years! > > > > > > > > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE > > > > caused by > > > > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then > > > > today, when he > > > > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I > > > > asked what he had > > > > for lunch at school and he said, " Pizza. " I am > > > > wondering if he has a > > > > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that. > > > > > > > > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3 > > > > months recently. He > > > > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any > > > > particular food allergy; > > > > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was > > > > cheating. Blood > > > > tests only show that he has a yeast problem. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated > > > > charcoal that I am > > > > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins > > > > in the gut to > > > > see if an introduced food bothers our kids? > > > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > Yahoo! Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sally, See Lorina's post #27521. She addresses the LDM100/yeast issue too. Yes, we have found that yeast can kick up with the die off. We've heard that with the release/killing of the viruses can also release other toxins that it was holding on to (ie metals), which in turn kicks up even more yeast. Depending on the case, a mild chelator with the LDM100 has been used. As to not overload the immune system, our doctors are NOT using strong chelators (ie DMPS)with the LDM100. Instead are using Detoxamin/EDTA to help mop up the newly stirred up toxins. All of this toxic movement can stir up yeast. We've been keeping an eye on the child and upped our yeast protocols, again we are working with a trained doctor (my son also did weekly GOOD Ionic Foot Baths to assist in detoxing the toxin dump). Rita > > > > > > > An interesting event happened yesterday. I gave our > > > > 18 yr old > > > > Aspergers son (with severe depression) some > > > > activated charcoal at > > > > 9:00 am (because I had given him some LDM100 > > > > antiviral and he was > > > > very depressed and aggitated). Within 30 min. he was > > > > smiling--and it > > > > lasted all day! He was much happier than I've seen > > > > him in years! > > > > > > > > It got me to thinking, his depression has GOT TO BE > > > > caused by > > > > something he is eating or that is in his gut. Then > > > > today, when he > > > > came home from school, he was SEVERLY anxious. I > > > > asked what he had > > > > for lunch at school and he said, " Pizza. " I am > > > > wondering if he has a > > > > dairy allergy but he doesn't want to hear that. > > > > > > > > We did the SCD diet a year ago and GF/CF for 3 > > > > months recently. He > > > > did well on the SCD but I couldn't see any > > > > particular food allergy; > > > > the GF/CF had little change but I suspect he was > > > > cheating. Blood > > > > tests only show that he has a yeast problem. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a down-side of activated > > > > charcoal that I am > > > > unaware of? Can it be a tool to clean out the toxins > > > > in the gut to > > > > see if an introduced food bothers our kids? > > > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > Yahoo! Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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