Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 First of all, this article refers to pressure waves in these lower frequency ranges. From my understanding the difference between pressure waves and electromagnetic waves is that ultrasound refers to sound pressure waves (above 20KHz there are air molecules moving back and forth), electromagnetic waves is electric and magnetic fields varying in time. The frequencies mentioned therefore (if my research is correct) are electromagnetic waves NOT pressure waves. At this point I cannot comment on any further meaning attached to the article, as the research is possibly suspect. The expressions 3(2127) ia meaningless to me. Of course, I have not read the entire article. Someone can correct me if I am wrong and kindly put some meaning to this question. http://www.truerife.com mar7con wrote: In the file section (Europe) under Rife Therapy and Cancer, at the bottom listed as a P.S., it states that many types of cancer can be easily and quickly killed by exposure to pressure square waves of a frequency of approx 2127...one or more of the higher frequency hidden fourier sine wave components. i.e. 3(2127), 5(2127), 7(2127), 9(2127), etc. opens up ion gates on the cancer cells' membrane and radically changes the ionic conditions inside the cancer cell.....etc. etc. Can anyone explain the 3(2127), etc.??? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 This is referring to the odd harmonics generated by a square wave. 1,3,5,7,9 and so on. Just multiply 2127 by odd number preceeding go get the harmonic frequency. There is at least one US patents wherein all the common frequencies we use were granted a patent. Another person tried to copyright all the common frequencies. Someone also tried to trademark the words " Royal Rife " . This attempt was dropped. Jim Bare > In the file section (Europe) under Rife Therapy and Cancer, at the >bottom listed as a P.S., it states that many types of cancer can be >easily and quickly killed by exposure to pressure square waves of a >frequency of approx 2127...one or more of the higher frequency hidden >fourier sine wave components. i.e. 3(2127), 5(2127), 7(2127), 9(2127), >etc. opens up ion gates on the cancer cells' membrane and radically >changes the ionic conditions inside the cancer cell.....etc. etc. > >Can anyone explain the 3(2127), etc.??? > >Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi, I think 3(2127) it is referring to the third harmonic of 2127 Hz. square wave, Regards, Tigchelaar wrote: > First of all, this article refers to pressure waves in these lower frequency ranges. From my understanding the difference between pressure waves and electromagnetic waves is that ultrasound refers to sound pressure waves (above 20KHz there are air molecules moving back and forth), electromagnetic waves is electric and > magnetic fields varying in time. > > The frequencies mentioned therefore (if my research is correct) are electromagnetic waves NOT pressure waves. > > At this point I cannot comment on any further meaning attached to the article, as the research is possibly suspect. The expressions 3(2127) ia meaningless to me. Of course, I have not read the entire article. > > Someone can correct me if I am wrong and kindly put some meaning to this question. > > http://www.truerife.com > > mar7con wrote: > In the file section (Europe) under Rife Therapy and Cancer, at the > bottom listed as a P.S., it states that many types of cancer can be > easily and quickly killed by exposure to pressure square waves of a > frequency of approx 2127...one or more of the higher frequency hidden > fourier sine wave components. i.e. 3(2127), 5(2127), 7(2127), 9(2127), > etc. opens up ion gates on the cancer cells' membrane and radically > changes the ionic conditions inside the cancer cell.....etc. etc. > > Can anyone explain the 3(2127), etc.??? > > Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 If anyone is working in harmonics, please remember that the first harmonic is the fundamental frequency, and the second harmonic is two times the fundamental etc. Miles. sqryx wrote: >Hi, I think 3(2127) it is referring to the third harmonic of 2127 Hz. >square wave, > >Regards, > > > > Tigchelaar wrote: > > >>First of all, this article refers to pressure waves in these lower frequency ranges. From my understanding the difference between pressure waves and electromagnetic waves is that ultrasound refers to sound pressure waves (above 20KHz there are air molecules moving back and forth), electromagnetic waves is electric and >>magnetic fields varying in time. >> >> The frequencies mentioned therefore (if my research is correct) are electromagnetic waves NOT pressure waves. >> >> At this point I cannot comment on any further meaning attached to the article, as the research is possibly suspect. The expressions 3(2127) ia meaningless to me. Of course, I have not read the entire article. >> >> Someone can correct me if I am wrong and kindly put some meaning to this question. >> >> http://www.truerife.com >> >>mar7con wrote: >> In the file section (Europe) under Rife Therapy and Cancer, at the >>bottom listed as a P.S., it states that many types of cancer can be >>easily and quickly killed by exposure to pressure square waves of a >>frequency of approx 2127...one or more of the higher frequency hidden >>fourier sine wave components. i.e. 3(2127), 5(2127), 7(2127), 9(2127), >>etc. opens up ion gates on the cancer cells' membrane and radically >>changes the ionic conditions inside the cancer cell.....etc. etc. >> >>Can anyone explain the 3(2127), etc.??? >> >>Thanks. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 , Most of us are using square wave generators. For a square wave, the second harmonic is three times the fundamental. Jim Bare >If anyone is working in harmonics, please remember that the first >harmonic is the fundamental frequency, and the second harmonic is two >times the fundamental etc. > > Miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 I am a little confused with the term fundamantal frequency being applied to such low values! My understanding is that Rife fundamental frequencies for organisms were of a much higher magnitude e.g tetanus was determined by RRR to have fundamental frequency in the order of 234 KHz with all lower frequencies being sub-harmonics of the FF or CRF as I believe Jim has called them. Please explain. Best Regards Tony Pagdin rifetech@... wrote: , Most of us are using square wave generators. For a square wave, the second harmonic is three times the fundamental. Jim Bare >If anyone is working in harmonics, please remember that the first >harmonic is the fundamental frequency, and the second harmonic is two >times the fundamental etc. > > Miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 rifetech@... wrote: > , > > Most of us are using square wave generators. For a square wave, the second > harmonic is three times the fundamental. > > Jim Bare here: The overtone frequencies are usually determined by the impedance of the circuit, not by the harmonic of the fundamental. To see what actually is generated by a square wave, I hooked my digital square wave generator, a GME SG-10 $100, to a EMEM3D from www.rifelabs.com. I put an oscilloscope with a wire attached to a probe right in front of the plasma tube and you can clearly see the signal being generated. Of course, the signal is defined by the spark coils in the device, but what you get at low frequencies is ringing after the square wave edge that oscillates several times, increasing in frequency and decreasing in amplitude, which is over after about ten percent of the one half cycle. When you drive the EMEM3D with a ten kilohertz square wave, what you see is a pure sine wave at the same fundamental. I doubt that you could generalize what any higher wave forms or frequencies would be given that the circuit, body, pads or plasma tubes are different between different situations and even different through time with the same situation as caused by body movement and varying pad contact. Remember impedance is a complex number and can be different at each fundamental frequency making any generalization of harmonics useless. Strings on a musical instrument will exhibit the integer harmonics depending on where on the string it was plucked, but a driving circuit is entirely different that a plucking circuit because the driving circuit is on all the time and the plucking is an instantaneous force which immediately goes away and lets the string and the body of the instrument do it's own thing. To me, if you really wanted to oscillate a mechanical structure to a physical breaking point, then driving it with a sine wave would require less power. I'm sure mechanical engineers know a lot more about this subject than me. I hope I'm not overstating my knowledge here, but I've spent thousands of hours staring at ringing in circuits on printed circuit boards being driven by TTL square wave logic devices. These are in the 100 megahertz range, but many of the same principals and effects apply in mechanical systems in the audio frequency range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi, I am discussing Sq. Waves, 50%duty, bipolar. May be truly/actually it needs to be called 3rd. harmonic which is 3 times the fundamental & not to be called 2nd. harmonic. Square waves contain all oddd harmonics, like 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 etc. 1st. is the fundamental frequency. Even harmonics, like 2,4,6,8,10 etc. actually average out to zero, & do not appear in square wave Fourier analysis. So what you call as 2nd. harmonic is 3rd., & what you call 3rd. may be actually 5th. & what you call 4th. is truly 7th. I know you are a PRO in rife field. Oversights can't be ruled out. All of us make oversights. Mr. Ken is an expert in harmonics. By a cc: of this email, I request Mr. Ken Uzzel to give a PRO opinion on harmonics. Honestly I am putting my 0.02c so that people do not remain confused by conflicting statements. Please excuse me, it generates some stirring up. Healthy Regards, Gesi ============================ > , > > Most of us are using square wave generators. For a square wave, the second > harmonic is three times the fundamental. > > Jim Bare ******************************************* > > >>If anyone is working in harmonics, please remember that the first >>harmonic is the fundamental frequency, and the second harmonic is two >>times the fundamental etc. >> >> Miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi, In a square wave, it contains only odd harmonics, 1,3,5,7 .... etc. If you run FREX, you can see clearly, that there are no even harmonics in a square wave. Even harmonics (2,4,6,....) appear in ramp/sawtooth wave forms & the like. One doesn't need expensive harmonic analyzers to grasp this concept. Healthy Regards, Gesi ========================= Re: What does 3(2127), 5(2127), etc mean pertaining to cancer frequencies? > here: The overtone frequencies are usually determined by > the impedance of the circuit, not by the harmonic of the fundamental. > > To see what actually is generated by a square wave, I hooked my digital > square wave generator, a GME SG-10 $100, to a EMEM3D from > www.rifelabs.com. I put an oscilloscope with a wire attached to a probe > right in front of the plasma tube and you can clearly see the signal > being generated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi Gesi, Thanks for your kind words, but I am no expert on harmonics. I'm a middle of the range rifer :-) I've got a good spectrum analyser that lets me look at harmonics to 1.2 GigHz, so I know the truth about devices I research. My greatest area of interest, isn't so much about accuracies coming from oscillators, but what is going into the body. This is the operational end of this technology, that is what's hitting the body, what is coming out of the plasma light or what is coming from the electrodes under body loading. Please, not too much stirring with my name in it ... most of the people here like me, I want to keep it this way if I can. I'm just a massage guy, not an engineer. Regards, Ken Uzzell http://heal-me.com.au Frex - CHIamp Re: What does 3(2127), 5(2127), etc mean pertaining to cancer frequencies? Hi, I am discussing Sq. Waves, 50%duty, bipolar. May be truly/actually it needs to be called 3rd. harmonic which is 3 times the fundamental & not to be called 2nd. harmonic. Square waves contain all oddd harmonics, like 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 etc. 1st. is the fundamental frequency. Even harmonics, like 2,4,6,8,10 etc. actually average out to zero, & do not appear in square wave Fourier analysis. So what you call as 2nd. harmonic is 3rd., & what you call 3rd. may be actually 5th. & what you call 4th. is truly 7th. I know you are a PRO in rife field. Oversights can't be ruled out. All of us make oversights. Mr. Ken is an expert in harmonics. By a cc: of this email, I request Mr. Ken Uzzel to give a PRO opinion on harmonics. Honestly I am putting my 0.02c so that people do not remain confused by conflicting statements. Please excuse me, it generates some stirring up. Healthy Regards, Gesi ============================ > , > > Most of us are using square wave generators. For a square wave, the second > harmonic is three times the fundamental. > > Jim Bare ******************************************* > > >>If anyone is working in harmonics, please remember that the first >>harmonic is the fundamental frequency, and the second harmonic is two >>times the fundamental etc. >> >> Miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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