Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 In a message dated 2/6/2006 8:58:24 AM Central Standard Time, nenahsylver@... writes: The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to use. Nenah Sylver, PhD _http://www.nenahsylver.com_ (http://www.nenahsylver.com) What is the F-Scan? and how do i do it on my Rife? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Strange illness > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My wife > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the same > problem.. > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped unless you use > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for about 4 days > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just unimaginable. > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was aching > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed feeling > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and one > knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down with it and > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning her left > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good sleep. In > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The Doctors > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a very low > indication of inflammation nothing else. > Any Ideas please email me > > Sleepless > , Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial irritation. Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What could be causing that? It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that can lie dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. Wastes from the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, like mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical toxins too numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, pesticides, solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell phones or other sources. If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if there are no parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to handle the poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to be excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, you'll need to know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential oils of eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil (almond, sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. Ozone saunas, using ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for your wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because ozone is a stupendous free radical scavenger. I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge the wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, also on my website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, which are anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works even better. Iodine, which at least half the population is deficient in according to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. You can eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the fluoride in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, the preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around them...and when the dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great suffering ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you tackle the problem at hand. Best wishes, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:46:27 PM Central Standard Time, sylwood12@... writes: The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to use. Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com I didnt see anything about F-Scan on that web site..... Can anyone tell me how to F-Scan? I have a few people on rifes and would love to know how to find the correct freq's....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 The Fscan is a small box which says it scans whomever it's connected to, and claims to then send out frequencies to counter what it finds. It has no connection with Plasma Lamp machines, EMEMs or other frequency machines. See: http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FSCAN2 Some folks swear by the Fscan.. -Dave sylwood12@... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/6/2006 8:58:24 AM Central Standard Time, > nenahsylver@... writes: > > The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to > use. > > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > _http://www.nenahsylver.com_ (http://www.nenahsylver.com) > > > > > > What is the F-Scan? and how do i do it on my Rife? > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 The F-scan is a separate contact machine which has the Rife as well as the frequencies. It also has the DIRP module, which sends very fast a number of frequencies through the body and detects on which ones the body reacts. Those frequencies can be used for therapy also. Look at: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina161.html for an image. There is also the GRS: look at: http://truerife.com/Scanner.html Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Strange illness > > In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:46:27 PM Central Standard Time, > sylwood12@... writes: > > The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to > use. > > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > http://www.nenahsylver.com > > > > > > > I didnt see anything about F-Scan on that web site..... Can anyone tell > me > how to F-Scan? I have a few people on rifes and would love to know how > to > find the correct freq's....... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: " " < > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My wife > now has it and ______________________________________________________________ Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold growing in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew sensitivity] regards, Dave www.rifelabs.com --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before vacuuming...etc... ariella >    ----- Original Message ----- > From: " " < > > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My > wife > > now has it and >  ______________________________________________________________ >   >  Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold growing > in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to > the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew sensitivity] >   >  regards, >   >   >  Dave >  www.rifelabs.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hi, what is " gse " ? Thanks, ariella vanderveen wrote: >i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops >dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before vacuuming...etc... > >ariella > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: " " < >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My >>wife >> > now has it and >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold growing >>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to >>the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew sensitivity] >> >> regards, >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 joel.. GSE=Grapefruit Seed Extract > Hi, what is " gse " ? > Thanks, > > > ariella vanderveen wrote: > > >i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops > >dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before > vacuuming...etc... > > > >ariella > > > > > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: " " < > >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several > months. My > >>wife > >> > now has it and > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold > growing > >>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to > >>the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew > sensitivity] > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I believe grape seed extract but could be wrong Terry Re: Strange illness Hi, what is " gse " ? Thanks, ariella vanderveen wrote: >i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops >dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before vacuuming...etc... > >ariella > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: " " < >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My >>wife >> > now has it and >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold growing >>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to >>the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew sensitivity] >> >> regards, >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Isn't gse grapefruit seed extract? Guy Terry McClelland wrote: >I believe grape seed extract but could be wrong >Terry > > Re: Strange illness > >Hi, what is " gse " ? >Thanks, > > >ariella vanderveen wrote: > > > >>i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops >>dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before vacuuming...etc... >> >>ariella >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: " " < >>> >>> >>>>Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My >>>> >>>> >>>wife >>> >>> >>>>now has it and >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold growing >>>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to >>>the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew sensitivity] >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 grapefruit seed extract....i use the brand by nutribiotics...is more powerful than antibiotics ... ariella > Hi, what is " gse " ? > Thanks, > > > ariella vanderveen wrote: > > >i spray all bedding, and everything else , with gse....about 30 drops > >dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets before > vacuuming...etc... > > > >ariella > > > > > > > > > > > >>   ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: " " < > >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. > My > >>wife > >> > now has it and > >>  ______________________________________________________________ > >>  > >>  Mike--------How old are your mattresses? Maybe there's mold > growing > >>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and dust mites might add to > >>the fray. I know of many people with extreme mold/mildew > sensitivity] > >>  > >>  regards, > >>  > >>   > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 > > > Strange illness > > > > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. My wife > > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the same > > problem.. > > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. > > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped unless you use > > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for about 4 days > > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just unimaginable. > > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was aching > > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed feeling > > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and one > > knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down with it and > > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning her left > > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good sleep. In > > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The Doctors > > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr > > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a very low > > indication of inflammation nothing else. > > Any Ideas please email me > > > > Sleepless > > > > > , > Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. > > Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial irritation. > Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical > irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What could be > causing that? > > It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that can lie > dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. Wastes from > the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, like > mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical toxins too > numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, pesticides, > solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell phones or other sources. > > If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if there are no > parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to handle the > poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to be > excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, you'll need to > know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which frequencies to > use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential oils of > eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, > anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil (almond, > sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. Ozone saunas, using > ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for your > wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because ozone is > a stupendous free radical scavenger. > > I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge the > wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, also on my > website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, which are > anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works even > better. Iodine, which at least half the population is deficient in according > to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. You can > eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. > > I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the fluoride > in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, the > preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around them...and when the > dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great suffering > ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors > (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you tackle the > problem at hand. > > Best wishes, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > http://www.nenahsylver.com > * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing > * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy > * products and services for wellness > , Nenah mentioned several things that can cause these symtoms in you and your wife and children. I suspect that this is caused by heavy metals - most likely Aluminum. Get a hair analysis for metals. Rocky Mt. labs is good. Or contact southernherb.com and find someone near you trained by Hanna Kroeger for full analysis. Southern herb carries Metaline for heavy metals and Pol X to get rid of environmental polutants. You can use homeopathic Aluminum which they have. You will need 2-3 months to get rid of the metal. You will need to stop all intake of Aluminum - Check your water or filter water at home, stay away from antacids with Al and prepared foods with Al from baking powder. For home use, get non Al baking powder. Check Al in the home and mobile homes are made of this. It can be neutraized with energetic devices. A good health food store may know who can do this in your area. Let me know how this goes and I can see what needs to be done next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 They asked for private mail, as I did, but got no answer. In my opinion, they are pestered by electrosmog. It may be mobile phone masts, or cordless DECT phones or wirelles internet routers. Even with their neighbours. It may be metal parts on their beds. And of course somes fungus in the mattresses. We often see such complaints as they experience. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Strange illness >> >> >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. > My wife >> > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the > same >> > problem.. >> > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. >> > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped unless > you use >> > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for about > 4 days >> > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just > unimaginable. >> > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was > aching >> > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed > feeling >> > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and one >> > knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down with > it and >> > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning her > left >> > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good > sleep. In >> > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The > Doctors >> > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr >> > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a > very low >> > indication of inflammation nothing else. >> > Any Ideas please email me >> > >> > Sleepless >> > >> >> >> , >> Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. >> >> Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial > irritation. >> Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical >> irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What > could be >> causing that? >> >> It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that > can lie >> dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. > Wastes from >> the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, like >> mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical toxins too >> numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, pesticides, >> solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell phones or other > sources. >> >> If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if there > are no >> parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to > handle the >> poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to be >> excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, you'll > need to >> know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which > frequencies to >> use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential > oils of >> eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, >> anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil (almond, >> sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. Ozone > saunas, using >> ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for > your >> wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because > ozone is >> a stupendous free radical scavenger. >> >> I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge the >> wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, also > on my >> website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, > which are >> anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works even >> better. Iodine, which at least half the population is deficient in > according >> to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. > You can >> eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. >> >> I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the > fluoride >> in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, the >> preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around them...and > when the >> dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great > suffering >> ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors >> (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you > tackle the >> problem at hand. >> >> Best wishes, >> Nenah >> >> Nenah Sylver, PhD >> http://www.nenahsylver.com >> * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing >> * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy >> * products and services for wellness >> > > > , > Nenah mentioned several things that can cause these symtoms in you > and your wife and children. I suspect that this is caused by heavy > metals - most likely Aluminum. > Get a hair analysis for metals. Rocky Mt. labs is good. > Or contact southernherb.com and find someone near you trained by > Hanna Kroeger for full analysis. > Southern herb carries Metaline for heavy metals and Pol X to get > rid of environmental polutants. You can use homeopathic Aluminum which > they have. You will need 2-3 months to get rid of the metal. > You will need to stop all intake of Aluminum - Check your water or > filter water at home, stay away from antacids with Al and prepared > foods with Al from baking powder. For home use, get non Al baking > powder. Check Al in the home and mobile homes are made of this. It can > be neutraized with energetic devices. A good health food store > may know who can do this in your area. > Let me know how this goes and I can see what needs to be done next. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 if u want to replace anti-biotics with GSE, how many drops and how often do u recommend it be taken?? --- ariella vanderveen wrote: > grapefruit seed extract....i use the brand by > nutribiotics...is more > powerful than antibiotics ... > > ariella > > On Feb 7, 2006, at 3:04 PM, froggie333z@... > wrote: > > > Hi, what is " gse " ? > > Thanks, > > > > > > ariella vanderveen wrote: > > > > >i spray all bedding, and everything else , with > gse....about 30 drops > > >dissolved in water in spray bottle....carpets > before > > vacuuming...etc... > > > > > >ariella > > > > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > >>Â Â Â ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: " " < > > >> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had > for several months. > > My > > >>wife > > >> > now has it and > > >>Â Â > ______________________________________________________________ > > >>Â Â > > >>Â Â Mike--------How old are your mattresses? > Maybe there's mold > > growing > > >>in them. Dust from discarded skin cells and > dust mites might add to > > >>the fray. I know of many people with extreme > mold/mildew > > sensitivity] > > >>Â Â > > >>Â Â regards, > > >>Â Â > > >>Â Â Â > > >> > > >Â > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 hi pete...it gives an amount on the bottle....5 to 10 drops in a glass of water.... what i use instead of antibiotics, internally, is colloidal silver, 1100 ppm, from www.inponline.com...1-... i used 4 to 6 drops every 4 hours, for four days, to get rid of an abcess in my jaw that even antibiotics did not get rid of...and i use it every time i would have taken antibiotics.... i have a marvelous circular on gse somewhere...if i find it will send more info...you might google for it...it was a copy that belonged to the healthfood store, which they let me have... i remember they said it would cure candida and that it's stronger than antibiotics....i use it mainly externally...kitchen counters..washing vegies...bedding etc.... ariella > if u want to replace anti-biotics with GSE, how many > drops and how often do u recommend it be taken?? > > --- ariella vanderveen wrote: > > > grapefruit seed extract....i use the brand by > > nutribiotics...is more > > powerful than antibiotics ... > > > > ariella > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Sorry , sometimes my antispam software dumps emails for no apparent reason and also my isp has been bouncing emails of late.....grrrr. I am currently using Olive Leaf extract which is attenuation the problem. I have just got myself together enough to power up my Colloidal silver generator. My experimental Rife generator I blew up and I am currently upgrading to (my EMEM) run up to 30Khz. But it is still not together yet. I still have to make my HF driving coil and a few bits and pieces. My experimental EMEM works like a capacitive discharge ignition except it is much faster. CDI's usually don't work above 400 Hz. Mine will work up to 30 000Hz. The grape seed extract sounds good too. We both picked this up in Tasmania last September while on holidays. It is now slowly spreading through the population of our little town (15000 people) and it is very nasty. I also have a water bed made from wood and my house is heavily shielded. I have cleaned out all the air conditioners too! Thanks to everyone who sent in suggestions. I hope to have this sorted soon. less sleepless Strange illness >>> >>> >>> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. >> My wife >>> > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the >> same >>> > problem.. >>> > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. >>> > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped unless >> you use >>> > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for about >> 4 days >>> > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just >> unimaginable. >>> > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was >> aching >>> > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed >> feeling >>> > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and one >>> > knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down with >> it and >>> > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning her >> left >>> > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good >> sleep. In >>> > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The >> Doctors >>> > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr >>> > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a >> very low >>> > indication of inflammation nothing else. >>> > Any Ideas please email me >>> > >>> > Sleepless >>> > >>> >>> >>> , >>> Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. >>> >>> Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial >> irritation. >>> Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical >>> irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What >> could be >>> causing that? >>> >>> It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that >> can lie >>> dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. >> Wastes from >>> the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, like >>> mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical toxins too >>> numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, pesticides, >>> solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell phones or other >> sources. >>> >>> If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if there >> are no >>> parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to >> handle the >>> poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to be >>> excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, you'll >> need to >>> know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which >> frequencies to >>> use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential >> oils of >>> eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, >>> anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil (almond, >>> sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. Ozone >> saunas, using >>> ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for >> your >>> wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because >> ozone is >>> a stupendous free radical scavenger. >>> >>> I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge the >>> wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, also >> on my >>> website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, >> which are >>> anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works even >>> better. Iodine, which at least half the population is deficient in >> according >>> to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. >> You can >>> eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. >>> >>> I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the >> fluoride >>> in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, the >>> preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around them...and >> when the >>> dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great >> suffering >>> ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors >>> (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you >> tackle the >>> problem at hand. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Nenah >>> >>> Nenah Sylver, PhD >>> http://www.nenahsylver.com >>> * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing >>> * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy >>> * products and services for wellness >>> >> >> >> , >> Nenah mentioned several things that can cause these symtoms in you >> and your wife and children. I suspect that this is caused by heavy >> metals - most likely Aluminum. >> Get a hair analysis for metals. Rocky Mt. labs is good. >> Or contact southernherb.com and find someone near you trained by >> Hanna Kroeger for full analysis. >> Southern herb carries Metaline for heavy metals and Pol X to get >> rid of environmental polutants. You can use homeopathic Aluminum which >> they have. You will need 2-3 months to get rid of the metal. >> You will need to stop all intake of Aluminum - Check your water or >> filter water at home, stay away from antacids with Al and prepared >> foods with Al from baking powder. For home use, get non Al baking >> powder. Check Al in the home and mobile homes are made of this. It can >> be neutraized with energetic devices. A good health food store >> may know who can do this in your area. >> Let me know how this goes and I can see what needs to be done next. >> >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 OK I think I have found what the virus is " Barmah Forest virus " does anyone have specify frequencies for this? Thanks for the help. I am going to get myself and my wife tested for this. Thanks for the help everyone only 400 cases a year and all in North Queensland. Cheers Re: Strange illness hi pete...it gives an amount on the bottle....5 to 10 drops in a glass of water.... what i use instead of antibiotics, internally, is colloidal silver, 1100 ppm, from www.inponline.com...1-... i used 4 to 6 drops every 4 hours, for four days, to get rid of an abcess in my jaw that even antibiotics did not get rid of...and i use it every time i would have taken antibiotics.... i have a marvelous circular on gse somewhere...if i find it will send more info...you might google for it...it was a copy that belonged to the healthfood store, which they let me have... i remember they said it would cure candida and that it's stronger than antibiotics....i use it mainly externally...kitchen counters..washing vegies...bedding etc.... ariella > if u want to replace anti-biotics with GSE, how many > drops and how often do u recommend it be taken?? > > --- ariella vanderveen wrote: > > > grapefruit seed extract....i use the brand by > > nutribiotics...is more > > powerful than antibiotics ... > > > > ariella > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hello, a waterbed is one of the worst things one may have. It should be replaced woth acomplete wooden bed, without ebay metal. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Strange illness >>>> >>>> >>>> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. >>> My wife >>>> > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the >>> same >>>> > problem.. >>>> > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. >>>> > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped unless >>> you use >>>> > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for about >>> 4 days >>>> > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just >>> unimaginable. >>>> > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was >>> aching >>>> > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed >>> feeling >>>> > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and one >>>> > knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down with >>> it and >>>> > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning her >>> left >>>> > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good >>> sleep. In >>>> > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The >>> Doctors >>>> > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr >>>> > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a >>> very low >>>> > indication of inflammation nothing else. >>>> > Any Ideas please email me >>>> > >>>> > Sleepless >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> , >>>> Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. >>>> >>>> Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial >>> irritation. >>>> Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical >>>> irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What >>> could be >>>> causing that? >>>> >>>> It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that >>> can lie >>>> dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. >>> Wastes from >>>> the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, like >>>> mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical toxins too >>>> numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, pesticides, >>>> solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell phones or other >>> sources. >>>> >>>> If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if there >>> are no >>>> parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to >>> handle the >>>> poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to be >>>> excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, you'll >>> need to >>>> know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which >>> frequencies to >>>> use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential >>> oils of >>>> eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, >>>> anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil (almond, >>>> sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. Ozone >>> saunas, using >>>> ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for >>> your >>>> wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because >>> ozone is >>>> a stupendous free radical scavenger. >>>> >>>> I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge the >>>> wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, also >>> on my >>>> website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, >>> which are >>>> anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works even >>>> better. Iodine, which at least half the population is deficient in >>> according >>>> to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. >>> You can >>>> eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. >>>> >>>> I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the >>> fluoride >>>> in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, the >>>> preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around them...and >>> when the >>>> dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great >>> suffering >>>> ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors >>>> (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you >>> tackle the >>>> problem at hand. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Nenah >>>> >>>> Nenah Sylver, PhD >>>> http://www.nenahsylver.com >>>> * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing >>>> * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy >>>> * products and services for wellness >>>> >>> >>> >>> , >>> Nenah mentioned several things that can cause these symtoms in you >>> and your wife and children. I suspect that this is caused by heavy >>> metals - most likely Aluminum. >>> Get a hair analysis for metals. Rocky Mt. labs is good. >>> Or contact southernherb.com and find someone near you trained by >>> Hanna Kroeger for full analysis. >>> Southern herb carries Metaline for heavy metals and Pol X to get >>> rid of environmental polutants. You can use homeopathic Aluminum which >>> they have. You will need 2-3 months to get rid of the metal. >>> You will need to stop all intake of Aluminum - Check your water or >>> filter water at home, stay away from antacids with Al and prepared >>> foods with Al from baking powder. For home use, get non Al baking >>> powder. Check Al in the home and mobile homes are made of this. It can >>> be neutraized with energetic devices. A good health food store >>> may know who can do this in your area. >>> Let me know how this goes and I can see what needs to be done next. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 , On what do you base " a waterbed is one of the worst things one may have " ? All the best, Jan Stoeten Re: Re: Strange illness Hello, a waterbed is one of the worst things one may have. It should be replaced woth acomplete wooden bed, without ebay metal. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Strange illness >>>> >>>> >>>> > Ok this is a strange illness that I have had for several months. >>> My wife >>>> > now has it and one of my children. I also know of others with the >>> same >>>> > problem.. >>>> > Can you help me identify it? Off the list please. >>>> > It starts with a sore throat that the pain can't be stopped >>>> > unless >>> you use >>>> > anti inflammatory pain killers. You recover have a cough for >>>> > about >>> 4 days >>>> > then one morning you wakeup ...the pain in your body is just >>> unimaginable. >>>> > I asked my wife if she broke my arm during the night. My back was >>> aching >>>> > my legs too. 3 months later EVERY night without fail I go to bed >>> feeling >>>> > good and wakeup with severe pain in my right forearm and back and >>>> > one knee. This was no fun I can tell you. Next My wife came down >>>> > with >>> it and >>>> > now she can't lift anything with her left arm.. In the morning >>>> > her >>> left >>>> > shoulder aches and she is in pain all night and not getting good >>> sleep. In >>>> > the morning the left shoulder and right forearm are aching. The >>> Doctors >>>> > say there is nothing wrong with us....grrrrr >>>> > All standard bloodtests for usual viruses are normal there is a >>> very low >>>> > indication of inflammation nothing else. >>>> > Any Ideas please email me >>>> > >>>> > Sleepless >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> , >>>> Sorry to hear of the intense pain. I'm sure it's no fun. >>>> >>>> Inflammation indicates either mechanical injury, and/or chemial >>> irritation. >>>> Let's put aside the mechanical injury and assume there is chemical >>>> irritationm, since everyone in your family is becoming ill. What >>> could be >>>> causing that? >>>> >>>> It could be mycoplasma or other microbes (including parasites) that >>> can lie >>>> dormant for decades in the body until a stressor triggers them. >>> Wastes from >>>> the microbes cann contribute to pain as well. Or heavy metalss, >>>> like mercury, tin, cadmium, aluminum or lead. Or other chemical >>>> toxins too numerous to name, including formaldehyde from furniture, >>>> pesticides, solvents. Radiation, from x-rays, televisions, cell >>>> phones or other >>> sources. >>>> >>>> If it were me, I'd go on a parasite and colon cleanse. Even if >>>> there >>> are no >>>> parasites, it's important that the colon be strong and open to >>> handle the >>>> poisons that will eventually travel there from the lymph system to >>>> be excreted out of the body. If you do have a frequency device, >>>> you'll >>> need to >>>> know which frequencies to use. The F-Scan can determine which >>> frequencies to >>>> use. Otherwise (or in addition to a frequency device), essential >>> oils of >>>> eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme, are all anti-viral, >>>> anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. Put them into a carrier oil >>>> (almond, sesame, etc.) and rub on the feet and rest of the body. >>>> Ozone >>> saunas, using >>>> ozone in a body suit, or breathing ozone through olive oil (and for >>> your >>>> wife, vaginal insufflation), will help clean up the system because >>> ozone is >>>> a stupendous free radical scavenger. >>>> >>>> I'd also use liquid zeolite (it's on my website) to help scavenge >>>> the wastes. And building up the body's nutrition (I would use VIBE, >>>> also >>> on my >>>> website under " products " ) is critical. You could also try enzymes, >>> which are >>>> anti-inflammatory. Wobenzyme is a good brand; serrapeptase works >>>> even better. Iodine, which at least half the population is >>>> deficient in >>> according >>>> to some reliable sources, is a wonderful antiseptic and germicide. >>> You can >>>> eat kelp and/or use Lugol's solution judiciously. >>>> >>>> I've seen this happening a lot lately. People are worn down by the >>> fluoride >>>> in their toothpaste, the mercury in the air and in their fillings, >>>> the preservatives in their food, the heavy metals all around >>>> them...and >>> when the >>>> dormant microorganisms in their systems begin to activate, great >>> suffering >>>> ensues. Check your environment to see if there are any stressors >>>> (exceptional or not) and try to remove them. This will help you >>> tackle the >>>> problem at hand. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Nenah >>>> >>>> Nenah Sylver, PhD >>>> http://www.nenahsylver.com >>>> * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing >>>> * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy >>>> * products and services for wellness >>>> >>> >>> >>> , >>> Nenah mentioned several things that can cause these symtoms in you >>> and your wife and children. I suspect that this is caused by heavy >>> metals - most likely Aluminum. >>> Get a hair analysis for metals. Rocky Mt. labs is good. Or contact >>> southernherb.com and find someone near you trained by Hanna Kroeger >>> for full analysis. >>> Southern herb carries Metaline for heavy metals and Pol X to get >>> rid of environmental polutants. You can use homeopathic Aluminum >>> which they have. You will need 2-3 months to get rid of the metal. >>> You will need to stop all intake of Aluminum - Check your water or >>> filter water at home, stay away from antacids with Al and prepared >>> foods with Al from baking powder. For home use, get non Al baking >>> powder. Check Al in the home and mobile homes are made of this. It >>> can be neutraized with energetic devices. A good health food store >>> may know who can do this in your area. >>> Let me know how this goes and I can see what needs to be done next. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Waterbeds do have a heating element. That radiates magnetic AC fields. The water gets magnetic and radiates a magnetic DC field. One can see that when one takes a simple compass. Check North and go slowly over the bed. The needle changes postion. In our building biological house investigations, the measuring of the body tension is a standard item. The person should lie on the bed, and the body tension ( in mV) is measured. Ideal is 30 mV. Most people have 300-800 mV. An electrical blanket causes 4.000 mV. And we found with a waterbed 55.000 mV. We found that metal parts on beds, which have become magnetic (DC) could harrass the immune system. Changing to a complete wooden bed, without metal parts, did restore the good sleeping, even with mobile phone masts in the surroundings. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Re: Strange illness > > > Hello, > > a waterbed is one of the worst things one may have. > It should be replaced woth acomplete wooden bed, without ebay metal. > > Greetings, > Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 charles wrote: <snip> > In our building biological house investigations, the measuring of the body > tension is a standard item. > The person should lie on the bed, and the body tension ( in mV) is measured. > Ideal is 30 mV. > Most people have 300-800 mV. > An electrical blanket causes 4.000 mV. > And we found with a waterbed 55.000 mV. > When I'm lying on my sofa with the television and computer on, my body voltage measures 2800-3000 mV (2.8-3.0 V). After putting a metal bracelet on and connecting a ground wire to it, the voltage reduces to less than 30 mV. > We found that metal parts on beds, which have become magnetic (DC) could > harrass the immune system. > Changing to a complete wooden bed, without metal parts, did restore the good > sleeping, even with mobile phone masts in the surroundings. > It would probably be easier to just ground out the metal framed bed. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Hello , the reason why we measure the body tension (in a special way) is to see in what way the person is subjected to a number of influences. Scientists discuss heavily how it is possible, that low frequency as well as high frequency fields are transformed into small AC fields in the body. Grounding metal parts of a bed does not help much against static magnetic fields (DC) . Be aware, we speak about static magnetic fields (DC), not alternating magnetic fields (AC). Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Re: Strange illness > charles wrote: > <snip> >> In our building biological house investigations, the measuring of the >> body >> tension is a standard item. >> The person should lie on the bed, and the body tension ( in mV) is >> measured. >> Ideal is 30 mV. >> Most people have 300-800 mV. >> An electrical blanket causes 4.000 mV. >> And we found with a waterbed 55.000 mV. >> > > When I'm lying on my sofa with the television and computer on, my body > voltage measures 2800-3000 mV (2.8-3.0 V). After putting a metal > bracelet on and connecting a ground wire to it, the voltage reduces to > less than 30 mV. > > >> We found that metal parts on beds, which have become magnetic (DC) could >> harrass the immune system. >> Changing to a complete wooden bed, without metal parts, did restore the >> good >> sleeping, even with mobile phone masts in the surroundings. >> > > > It would probably be easier to just ground out the metal framed bed. > > Regards, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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