Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 How fabulous for you!! Which doc are you using? S. new anti-viral therapy - amantadine There is a brand new anti-viral therapy to combat measles, polio, and influenza virus in the nervous system. They are using an old anti-viral drug called amantadine. Our doc said that " they " had treated about 200 kids so far with remarkable success. It is supposed to help with concentration, awareness, speech, social skills, and it is supposed to be calming to the kids. It is also not supposed to cause any preliminary " die off " behaviors. You are supposed to know within 6 weeks whether it will help the child, and should see some good results within the first couple of weeks. I was wondering if anyone out here has tried this therapy? We started on it last Thursday evening, so 3 days ago. I was hoping to compare notes with someone using the drug, or has used it. I could swear that I am already seeing some good stuff from my boys. One son, who usually bounces off the walls and runs through grocery stores, has been really calm and actually stayed right by my side during 2 separate shopping trips. The other son has actually been listening in on my conversations with my husband and asking me about stuff he heard me say. This is extremely new for him, as he usually is so engrossed in his computer game or TV show that he pays no attention to conversations around him. He also got on the phone with his grandmother and held a 5 minute conversation with her, telling her about his favorite TV shows, his plans for going back to school, and the fact that we will see her next weekend. (He usually MIGHT say one of these things but never brings up 3 separate topics). These are bordering on WOW moments and I am really afraid to get my hopes up at this point, because it has only been 3 days. Is it a coincidence or the new drug? Is it common to see good results this early? Is this as good as it will get, or is it just the tip of the iceberg? Anyone???? in Cedar Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Who is your doctor? new anti-viral therapy - amantadine There is a brand new anti-viral therapy to combat measles, polio, and influenza virus in the nervous system. They are using an old anti-viral drug called amantadine. Our doc said that " they " had treated about 200 kids so far with remarkable success. It is supposed to help with concentration, awareness, speech, social skills, and it is supposed to be calming to the kids. It is also not supposed to cause any preliminary " die off " behaviors. You are supposed to know within 6 weeks whether it will help the child, and should see some good results within the first couple of weeks. I was wondering if anyone out here has tried this therapy? We started on it last Thursday evening, so 3 days ago. I was hoping to compare notes with someone using the drug, or has used it. I could swear that I am already seeing some good stuff from my boys. One son, who usually bounces off the walls and runs through grocery stores, has been really calm and actually stayed right by my side during 2 separate shopping trips. The other son has actually been listening in on my conversations with my husband and asking me about stuff he heard me say. This is extremely new for him, as he usually is so engrossed in his computer game or TV show that he pays no attention to conversations around him. He also got on the phone with his grandmother and held a 5 minute conversation with her, telling her about his favorite TV shows, his plans for going back to school, and the fact that we will see her next weekend. (He usually MIGHT say one of these things but never brings up 3 separate topics). These are bordering on WOW moments and I am really afra Anyone???? in Cedar Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Yes, my son has tried it. He has been on it for about 8 weeks. I noticed slight changes in his speech and communication skills. I also noticed changes in his comprehension skills. I think that this drug has helped my son. It wasn't dramatic, but it was more like since I am around him all the time, I am sensitive to anything new. He takes a 1/2 tsp. twice a day, and he is 6 yrs. old. I think it has been worth it. I wouldn't say it has the " cure " , but any improvements in my book with no side effects is always worth it, and with my insurance, it is only $5.00--- a win on all accounts. My doctor said that said that some kids have dramatic differences. I think that that might also depend on how severe they were to start out with too. Good luck!! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 We received amantadine about a month ago from Dr. , who I love, and my son has had the exact same response as yours. Suddenly he was asking questions about other peoples conversations. He is 12 and that had never happened before and suddenly it was happening all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 , we also got ours from Dr. (my hero). They have had 9 doses since last Thursday. Tonight I took them to Walmart (which is ALWAYS a major nightmare with the boys running from one end of the store to the other, NEVER EVER staying within my eyesight). Those boys stayed right by my side, from the time we got out of the car, through the entire store, the check out register, and back to the car again. They did not wander one time. The verbal stims seem to be tapering off. One of my sons who never stops moving and is always climbing all over me and plays very hard....a completely different child. He has been so calm and quiet (more like a normal 7 yr old) that I have actually been worried about him. He actually played charades with me tonight, acting out the characters in Winnie the Pooh for me to guess. My other son has been so much more alert and his sentence structure and language depth have all improved a good bit. Plus his comments on my conversations and his phone conversations with his grandparents.... This is all since last Thursday!!! I am just holding my breath to see if it continues, gets better, etc. I am so afraid to get my hopes up but.....I have seen a whole bunch of WOW moments this past week. Thanks for answering my post. I posted on 3 different groups. I heard back from you and one other Dr. patient. That is it. This therapy is really, really new. in Cedar Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Hi, folks-these articles, plus another I read that said that flu viruses are resistant to amantadine, suggest that the mechanism of improvement is actually the manipulation of dopamine, rather than the anti-viral effects. The good effects may be temporary; it will be good to hear feedback later on from those who are trying it. J. Ruede, MLS Librarian-liaison, School of Education; Communication Sciences and Disorders Texas Christian University J Emerg Med. 2005 Apr;28(3):289-92. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?PrId=3048 & uid=15769 570 & db=pubmed & url=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0736-4679 (04)00358-0 Improved neurological function after Amantadine treatment in two patients with brain injury. Wu TS, Garmel GM. Stanford/Kaiser Emergency Medicine Residency Program, Stanford, California. This article presents two cases of functional recovery in patients with brain injury after treatment with Amantadine, a dopaminergic stimulant. Also presented is a review of current data available concerning dopaminergic therapy after traumatic brain injury. PMID: 15769570 [PubMed - in process] Expert Opin Pharmacother. 2000 Dec;1(7):1441-53. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?PrId=3204 & uid=11249 477 & db=pubmed & url=http://www.ashley-pub.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/linker?ini=ashl ey & reqidx=1465-6566(2000)L.1441 Pharmacology and clinical experience with risperidone. Love RC, MW. University of land, Baltimore, 100 Penn Street, Room 505, Baltimore, MD 21201, USA. love@... Risperidone (Risperdal, Janssen Pharmaceutica) is a second generation antipsychotic (SGA) for the treatment of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. It is a potent antagonist of serotonin-2 (5-HT2) and dopamine-2 (D2) receptors in the brain. In comparison to conventional antipsychotics, risperidone demonstrates superior efficacy against the positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia and a decreased occurrence of extrapyramidal side effects (EPS). Risperidone causes less weight gain than other marketed SGAs, but can increase prolactin levels and cause EPS in a dose-related manner. In a variety of pharmacoeconomic analyses, it has proven to be a cost-effective addition to the antipsychotic armamentarium. As the first SGA available for front line use, risperidone has established a new standard of care for the treatment of individuals with psychotic disorders. Publication Types: * Review * Review, Tutorial PMID: 11249477 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] JAMA. 1991 Oct 2;266(13):1793-800. Comment in: * JAMA. 1991 Oct 2;266(13):1833-4. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do pt=Abstract & list_uids=1832468> * JAMA. 1992 Feb 5;267(5):651-2. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do pt=Abstract & list_uids=1530982> * JAMA. 1992 Feb 5;267(5):651; author reply 652. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & do pt=Abstract & list_uids=1530981> The dopamine D2 receptor locus as a modifying gene in neuropsychiatric disorders. Comings DE, Comings BG, Muhleman D, Dietz G, Shahbahrami B, Tast D, Knell E, Kocsis P, Baumgarten R, Kovacs BW, et al. Department of Medical Genetics, City of Hope National Medical Center, Duarte, CA 91010-0269. OBJECTIVE.--The A1 allele of the Taq I polymorphism of the dopamine D2 receptor (DRD2) gene has been earlier reported to occur in 69% of alcoholics, compared with 20% of controls. Other research has reported no significant difference in the prevalence of the A1 allele in alcoholics vs controls and no evidence that the DRD2 gene was linked to alcoholism. We hypothesized that these seemingly conflicting results might be because increases in the prevalence of the A1 allele may not be specific to alcoholism. Thus, we examined other disorders frequently associated with alcoholism or those believed to involve defects in dopaminergic neurotransmission. DESIGN.--Case comparison study. To minimize the effect of racial differences in gene frequencies, the study was restricted to non-Hispanic whites. SETTING.--Ambulatory and hospitalized patients. RESULTS.--Among all known controls (n = 314), 77 (24.5%) carried the A1 allele. Of the 69 controls known not to be alcoholics, 10 (14.5%) carried the A1 allele. The prevalence of the A1 allele was significantly increased in patients with Tourette's syndrome (44.9%, n = 147), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (46.2%, n = 104), autism (54.5%, n = 33), alcoholism (42.3%, n = 104), and posttraumatic stress disorder (45.7%, n = 35). After correction for multiple comparisons (requiring P less than .0009 for significance), all remained significant except posttraumatic stress disorder. The prevalence of the A1 allele was not significantly increased in patients with depression, panic attacks, Parkinson's disease, or obesity. The prevalence of the A1 allele in drug addiction and schizophrenia was only significant when compared with that of controls who were not alcoholics, and no correction was made for multiple comparisons. CONCLUSION.--These results suggest the A1 allele of the DRD2 gene is associated with a number of behavior disorders in which it may act as a modifying gene rather than as the primary etiological agent. PMID: 1832466 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Biol Psychiatry. 1992 Apr 15;31(8):794-807. Neural development is regulated by classical neurotransmitters: dopamine D2 receptor stimulation enhances neurite outgrowth. Todd RD. Department of Psychiatry, Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, MO 63110. The classical neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine are thought to be involved in the etiology or treatment of a variety of psychiatric disorders. Recent studies suggest that these neurotransmitters may also have roles as neural morphogens during brain development. Previously, we have demonstrated that stimulation of serotonin 5-HT1A receptors selectively inhibited neurite branching in an in vitro system (Sikich et al 1990). In the present study, the developmental role of dopamine D2 receptors in the control of neurite outgrowth has been investigated by quantitating the morphological response of cortical neurons to agonist stimulation in vitro. Cultures of fetal rat frontal, cortical neurons were shown to express both alternatively spliced forms of D2 receptor messenger RNA (mRNA). The larger mRNA form predominated (D2A444:D2A415 ratio of about 6:1). In a small but significant percentage of these neurons, culture in the presence of the D2 receptor selective agonist, quinpirole, resulted in a three-to ten-fold increase in the length of neurites and in the number of branch points per neurite. These effects were blocked by the D2 receptor antagonists eticlopride and spiperone. Early abnormalities in the stimulation of dopamine or serotonin receptor subtypes could lead to the types of neuroanatomical changes observed in studies of schizophrenia, bipolar affective disorder, and autism. These morphogenic effects of classical transmitters could unite neurodevelopmental and neurotransmitter theories of the etiology of severe psychiatric disorders. PMID: 1643194 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Brain Res. 2002 Sep 13;949(1-2):32-41. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?PrId=3048 & uid=12213 297 & db=pubmed & url=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S000689930 202961X Hypersensitivity of dopamine transmission in the rat striatum after treatment with the NMDA receptor antagonist amantadine. Peeters M, Page G, Maloteaux JM, Hermans E. Laboratoire de Pharmacologie Experimentale (FARL), Universite Catholique de Louvain 54.10, Avenue Hippocrate 54, B-1200 Brussels, Belgium. Amantadine, a non-competitive N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptor antagonist known to increase dopamine synthesis and release in the striatum, is frequently associated with L-DOPA in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. However, the biochemical mechanisms involved in the effect of amantadine and the consequences of its repetitive administration on the modulation of striatal dopamine transmission still need to be clarified. We have investigated the effects of short-term amantadine treatments on the expression of dopamine receptors and the functional coupling to G proteins in rat striatal membranes. Dopamine-induced stimulation of guanosine 5'-[gamma-35S]triphosphate ([35S]GTPgammaS) binding was significantly enhanced (40%) in striatum homogenates from rats treated for 4 days with amantadine (40 mg/kg, i.p.) compared to vehicle-treated animals. This effect was specific for dopamine receptors and was transient as no significant modifications were observed when animals were treated for either 2 or 7 days. Administration of amantadine did not directly affect the animal behaviour. However, treated animals exhibited hypersensitive dopamine transmission since rats treated for 4 days showed exacerbated responses to a single apomorphine administration (enhanced locomotor activity and reduced stereotypy). Since the effects of amantadine administration differ from those usually observed with direct dopamine receptor agonists or other NMDA receptor antagonists, we suggest that multiple biochemical mechanisms contribute to the modulation of dopamine transmission by amantadine. Copyright 2002 Elsevier Science B.V. PMID: 12213297 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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