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Hi Mark,

I highly recommend the PC program Frex, with a very small

amplifier plugged into the audio output of the PC. Very

sophisticated program, which has more features with each update.

The amp should be one that contains one IC (which will convert a

sinewave output to a squarewave).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://www.magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Friday, January 6, 2006, 9:26:48 PM, you wrote:

MS> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

MS> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides Robin?

MS> Thanks,

MS> Mark Sheldon

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Convert sine to square?

What is more appropriate?

Sine or square?

I am finishing to battle cancer-and I think winning-and the opportunity to

speed up the process (and shame some soulless doctors!) would be much

appreciated.

I am using an EM+ dual plasma tube device (Argon and Krypton) with

frequencies generated by a second hand DELL PC running Frex15.

I was told to favor sine instead of square, and in fact for example my wife

has been able to do without antibiotics or pain pills the doctor had

suggested as final items for her to use after a fall and the removal of

liquid from her knee: in less than 48 hours the pain is gone and the

inflammation nowhere to be found.

But if square is for some reason more advisable than sine for my cancer,...

Luigi

Re: Programable frequency generators.

> Hi Mark,

>

> I highly recommend the PC program Frex, with a very small

> amplifier plugged into the audio output of the PC. Very

> sophisticated program, which has more features with each update.

>

> The amp should be one that contains one IC (which will convert a

> sinewave output to a squarewave).

>

> Bil

>

> PC 1000

> M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

> http://www.magpulser.com

> Mammoth Lakes, CA

>

>

>

>

> Friday, January 6, 2006, 9:26:48 PM, you wrote:

>

> MS> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

> MS> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides

> Robin?

>

> MS> Thanks,

> MS> Mark Sheldon

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luigi....for the laptop, do you have to connect a wire to the

soundcard? i had a friend do this for me on my old laptop, but now

that one has broken down....the only reason i have not thought about

getting another old laptop is that i don't know how to connect that

wire...

any thoughts would be really appreciated..

ariella

> Convert sine to square?

> What is more appropriate?

> Sine or square?

> I am finishing to battle cancer-and I think winning-and the

> opportunity to

> speed up the process (and shame some soulless doctors!) would be much

> appreciated.

> I am using an EM+ dual plasma tube device (Argon and Krypton) with

> frequencies generated by a second hand DELL PC running Frex15.

> I was told to favor sine instead of square, and in fact for example

> my wife

> has been able to do without antibiotics or pain pills the doctor had

> suggested as final items for her to use after a fall and the removal

> of

> liquid from her knee: in less than 48 hours the pain is gone and the

> inflammation nowhere to be found.

> But if square is for some reason more advisable than sine for my

> cancer,...

> Luigi

>

>

>

> Re: Programable frequency generators.

>

>

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > I highly recommend the PC program Frex, with a very small

> > amplifier plugged into the audio output of the PC. Very

> > sophisticated program, which has more features with each update.

> >

> > The amp should be one that contains one IC (which will convert a

> > sinewave output to a squarewave).

> >

> > Bil

> >

> > PC 1000

> > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

> > http://www.magpulser.com

> > Mammoth Lakes, CA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Friday, January 6, 2006, 9:26:48 PM, you wrote:

> >

> > MS> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

> > MS> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides

>

> > Robin?

> >

> > MS> Thanks,

> > MS> Mark Sheldon

>

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Hi Bil,

Could the Frex program be used with a Rife/Bare unit? If so, could you

give an example of the " very small amplifier plugged into the audio

output of the PC " just so one knows where and what to buy?

Frex also has the possibility to " calibrate " your sound card. At

http://polly.phys.msu.su/~zeld/oscill.html is a free " Oscilloscope for

Windows v. 2.51 " , that, according to the website, works well under

Windows 95. I'm not yet sure but I it will probably also work under

Win98, Win2000 and XP. Jimmy Holman praised this very functional

" oscilloscope " . You will need two computers to test your soundcard.

All the best,

Jan Stoeten

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Re: Programable frequency generators.

Hi Mark,

I highly recommend the PC program Frex, with a very small amplifier

plugged into the audio output of the PC. Very sophisticated program,

which has more features with each update.

The amp should be one that contains one IC (which will convert a

sinewave output to a squarewave).

Bil

PC 1000

M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

http://www.magpulser.com

Mammoth Lakes, CA

Friday, January 6, 2006, 9:26:48 PM, you wrote:

MS> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

MS> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides

MS> Robin?

MS> Thanks,

MS> Mark Sheldon

MS>

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Most decent laptops have some sort of sound system built in.

What I did with my " poor man's Rife " unit was to connect the laptop's sound

out jack to the Sony amplifier I was using to boost up the output.

There are usually two mini plug jacks on laptops. One is marked with the

picture of a microphone (or sometimes the word " mic " ); the other with a mark

that resembles a headphone (or the word " out " ).

Radio Shack sells a wire for about $3 that plugs into the mini plug of the

laptop and splits into two separate jacks for you to connect to the back of

an amplifier.

I used to connect myself to the amplifier using stick on pads (like the ones

used for MRI tests or by Emergency Medical Techs) connected to heavy gauge

speaker wires to the AUX output jacks of the amp.

That's about all there is to it.

Luigi

Re: Programable frequency generators.

>>

>>

>> > Hi Mark,

>> >

>> > I highly recommend the PC program Frex, with a very small

>> > amplifier plugged into the audio output of the PC. Very

>> > sophisticated program, which has more features with each update.

>> >

>> > The amp should be one that contains one IC (which will convert a

>> > sinewave output to a squarewave).

>> >

>> > Bil

>> >

>> > PC 1000

>> > M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulse generator

>> > http://www.magpulser.com

>> > Mammoth Lakes, CA

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Friday, January 6, 2006, 9:26:48 PM, you wrote:

>> >

>> > MS> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

>> > MS> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides

>>

>> > Robin?

>> >

>> > MS> Thanks,

>> > MS> Mark Sheldon

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Affordable? hmmm..

There are two others .. the Sequoia Hammerhead, and the Progen by

Resonant Light in Canada. Everybody seems to be around $900 nowdays..

too bad!!

And of course for shareware FREX that Ken in OZ makes available..

excellant progran if you have a PC available. There is also a Rife

Program available from Timo Esser (?) in Europe.. some of these are

discussed on my website.

Dave Felt

http://www.dfe.net

Rife and Lyme books, DVS, Videotapes...

M. Sheldon wrote:

>Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

>affordable, programable freq generators these days besides Robin?

>

>Thanks,

>Mark Sheldon

>

>

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thanks for that clear explanation luigi...

another question i have is ...can i use my mac powerbook that i use

regularly, or does it have to be a seperate laptop?

ariella

> Most decent laptops have some sort of sound system built in.

> What I did with my " poor man's Rife " unit was to connect the laptop's

> sound

> out jack to the Sony amplifier I was using to boost up the output.

> There are usually two mini plug jacks on laptops.  One is marked with

> the

> picture of a microphone (or sometimes the word " mic " ); the other with

> a mark

> that resembles a headphone (or the word " out " ).

> Radio Shack sells a wire for about $3 that plugs into the mini plug

> of the

> laptop and splits into two separate jacks for you to connect to the

> back of

> an amplifier.

> I used to connect myself to the amplifier using stick on pads (like

> the ones

> used for MRI tests or by Emergency Medical Techs) connected to heavy

> gauge

> speaker wires to the AUX output jacks of the amp.

> That's about all there is to it.

> Luigi

> >

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I have worked since '82 with PC, not Mac: I am not sure that you can run any

of the programs that generate frequencies with your computer.

You can ask around for some software that will allow you to run things like

Frex15 on your Mac, but I doubt that you'll find anything truly useful.

You might want to do as I did, which was to find a well worn Dell Latitude

out of eBay (total cost $350).

It's only a high end Pentium 3, but serves the purpose just fine.

Or maybe an Optiplex they are selling when it got returned after being

leased.

The Mac I am told is a good unit.

Again though, I am not aware of any frequency software you can find for it.

Luigi

Re: Programable frequency generators.

thanks for that clear explanation luigi...

another question i have is ...can i use my mac powerbook that i use

regularly, or does it have to be a seperate laptop?

ariella

> Most decent laptops have some sort of sound system built in.

> What I did with my " poor man's Rife " unit was to connect the laptop's

> sound

> out jack to the Sony amplifier I was using to boost up the output.

> There are usually two mini plug jacks on laptops. One is marked with

> the

> picture of a microphone (or sometimes the word " mic " ); the other with

> a mark

> that resembles a headphone (or the word " out " ).

> Radio Shack sells a wire for about $3 that plugs into the mini plug

> of the

> laptop and splits into two separate jacks for you to connect to the

> back of

> an amplifier.

> I used to connect myself to the amplifier using stick on pads (like

> the ones

> used for MRI tests or by Emergency Medical Techs) connected to heavy

> gauge

> speaker wires to the AUX output jacks of the amp.

> That's about all there is to it.

> Luigi

> >

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Well, if your mac is newer, you can run any PC program on that mac using virtual

PC. It

can be slow, but on a simple freq program it would not matter. And besides,

there ARE

freq programs for the mac, I think I even have one but it's for os9. I wonder

what the

voltage output is on a laptop headphone jack? From what Iv'e seen even like 2

volts is

enough to get an EMEM rolling, depending on transistor choice. Thanks for the

reminder... SOFTWARE... of course.

M. Sheldon

>

> I have worked since '82 with PC, not Mac: I am not sure that you can run any

> of the programs that generate frequencies with your computer.

> You can ask around for some software that will allow you to run things like

> Frex15 on your Mac, but I doubt that you'll find anything truly useful.

> You might want to do as I did, which was to find a well worn Dell Latitude

> out of eBay (total cost $350).

> It's only a high end Pentium 3, but serves the purpose just fine.

> Or maybe an Optiplex they are selling when it got returned after being

> leased.

> The Mac I am told is a good unit.

> Again though, I am not aware of any frequency software you can find for it.

> Luigi

>

>

>

> Re: Programable frequency generators.

>

>

> thanks for that clear explanation luigi...

>

> another question i have is ...can i use my mac powerbook that i use

> regularly, or does it have to be a seperate laptop?

>

> ariella

>

>

>

> > Most decent laptops have some sort of sound system built in.

> > What I did with my " poor man's Rife " unit was to connect the laptop's

> > sound

> > out jack to the Sony amplifier I was using to boost up the output.

> > There are usually two mini plug jacks on laptops. One is marked with

> > the

> > picture of a microphone (or sometimes the word " mic " ); the other with

> > a mark

> > that resembles a headphone (or the word " out " ).

> > Radio Shack sells a wire for about $3 that plugs into the mini plug

> > of the

> > laptop and splits into two separate jacks for you to connect to the

> > back of

> > an amplifier.

> > I used to connect myself to the amplifier using stick on pads (like

> > the ones

> > used for MRI tests or by Emergency Medical Techs) connected to heavy

> > gauge

> > speaker wires to the AUX output jacks of the amp.

> > That's about all there is to it.

> > Luigi

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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You can use the same PC for everything.

The only thing I do since I zap every night with it running the frequencies

for my new EM+ is to disconnect the laptop from the Internet so as not to

leave it at the mercy of potential hackers while I sleep.

I'll be upgrading the thing to something with more horsepower since, what

with it being a P3, there are jobs it will do VVEEERRRYYY

SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWWLLLLYYYY, and some others it just cannot pull off: I am

keeping my eyes on a couple of Dells and Vaios out of eBay...

Luigi

Re: Programable frequency generators.

thanks luigi..

holman did send me a possible program for the mac....

however, aside from that, is it not good to run rife on the same

machine that you are using....?

ariella

> I have worked since '82 with PC, not Mac: I am not sure that you can

> run any

> of the programs that generate frequencies with your computer.

> You can ask around for some software that will allow you to run

> things like

> Frex15 on your Mac, but I doubt that you'll find anything truly

> useful.

> You might want to do as I did, which was to find a well worn Dell

> Latitude

> out of eBay (total cost $350).

> It's only a high end Pentium 3, but serves the purpose just fine.

> Or maybe an Optiplex they are selling when it got returned after being

> leased.

> The Mac I am told is a good unit.

> Again though, I am not aware of any frequency software you can find

> for it.

> Luigi

>

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thanks luigi...

how do you do this virtual pc thing?

also, you may have already covered this, but what em+ machine do you

have and how much did it cost?

ariella

> You can use the same PC for everything.

> The only thing I do since I zap every night with it running the

> frequencies

> for my new EM+ is to disconnect the laptop from the Internet so as

> not to

> leave it at the mercy of potential hackers while I sleep.

> I'll be upgrading the thing to something with more horsepower since,

> what

> with it being a P3, there are jobs it will do VVEEERRRYYY

> SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWWLLLLYYYY, and some others it just cannot pull off: I

> am

> keeping my eyes on a couple of Dells and Vaios out of eBay...

> Luigi

>

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I am a Mac user, and have recently been experimenting with the plasma

ball device that Ken Uzzell describes on his web site. I've searched

for inexpensive Mac software that could provide at least part of the

functionality of Ken's FREX software, and have thus far found two

inexpensive shareware frequency generator software applications

compatible with OSX. These apps are:

Audio Toolbox OSX, available at <http://www.blackcatsystems.com/>, and

AudioTest, available at <http://www.katsurashareware.com/>.

I have downloaded both apps and verified that both work under OSX and

do output frequencies. Audio Toolbox is AppleScriptable, hence it may

be possible to add to its functionality more of the excellent

features Ken has built into FREX. I have not yet experimented with

scripting Audio Toolbox.

Warren

Well, if your mac is newer, you can run any PC program on that mac

using virtual PC. It

can be slow, but on a simple freq program it would not matter. And

besides, there ARE

freq programs for the mac, I think I even have one but it's for os9.

I wonder what the

voltage output is on a laptop headphone jack? From what Iv'e seen

even like 2 volts is

enough to get an EMEM rolling, depending on transistor choice. Thanks

for the

reminder... SOFTWARE... of course.

M. Sheldon

> I have worked since '82 with PC, not Mac: I am not sure that you

> can run any

> of the programs that generate frequencies with your computer.

> You can ask around for some software that will allow you to run

> things like

> Frex15 on your Mac, but I doubt that you'll find anything truly

> useful.

> You might want to do as I did, which was to find a well worn Dell

> Latitude

> out of eBay (total cost $350).

> It's only a high end Pentium 3, but serves the purpose just fine.

> Or maybe an Optiplex they are selling when it got returned after being

> leased.

> The Mac I am told is a good unit.

> Again though, I am not aware of any frequency software you can find

> for it.

> Luigi

>

>

>

> Re: Programable frequency generators.

>

>

> thanks for that clear explanation luigi...

>

> another question i have is ...can i use my mac powerbook that i use

> regularly, or does it have to be a seperate laptop?

>

> ariella

>

>

>

>

>> Most decent laptops have some sort of sound system built in.

>> What I did with my " poor man's Rife " unit was to connect the

>> laptop's

>> sound

>> out jack to the Sony amplifier I was using to boost up the output.

>> There are usually two mini plug jacks on laptops. One is marked with

>> the

>> picture of a microphone (or sometimes the word " mic " ); the other

>> with

>> a mark

>> that resembles a headphone (or the word " out " ).

>> Radio Shack sells a wire for about $3 that plugs into the mini plug

>> of the

>> laptop and splits into two separate jacks for you to connect to the

>> back of

>> an amplifier.

>> I used to connect myself to the amplifier using stick on pads (like

>> the ones

>> used for MRI tests or by Emergency Medical Techs) connected to heavy

>> gauge

>> speaker wires to the AUX output jacks of the amp.

>> That's about all there is to it.

>> Luigi

>>

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I recommend checking out Puget Systems, http://www.pugetsystems.com/ for

comparison. I bought my daughter a laptop and prefer their use of available

off-the-shelf non-propriety components in their computers. You have a lot of

options for customization, also.

Good Luck!

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Good virtual PC software is available from places like CompUSA, although you

can probably find it for cheap on eBay.

I refuse to swear by it since as I told you I know PC, not Mac, but Apples

are great little units and should be quite OK running virtual PC software

and for example Frex15 or perhaps Blaster.

The EM+ system I use, the model 6C, was custom built (literally) by Bruce

Stenulson, and cost me a shade short of $2000 with all its bells and

whistles.

Frex15 software costs $60 (and worth every penny!).

Basically you have a PC with a decent sound system (mine is a $350 Dell

Latitude out of eBay and Dell Financial-their leasing arm) running Frex15

software.

A connector cable goes from the sound out jack on the laptop to the input

port on the EM+ which translates the PC's signals into electrical impulses

that excite the tubes into firing their frequencies into the target-me.

The 6C can be used as a contact device like the GB4000, but I have had not

enough results out of those to be too happy with them, so I zap by

positioning myself within 2 or so feet from the tubes (no direct contact),

or use only one tube and rest it on my pelvis area, as close to my bladder

cancer as I can get it.

Either way I seem to get the best effects when I use one of the contact pads

Bruce includes as part of the 6C package to ground myself to the device.

The only drawbacks to the 6C are first that Bruce's reputation is such that

there's likely a 4-plus week wait for his systems.

And his plasma tube stands are marginal for anything except the top of a

desk: I had to make one myself out of 2x4 stock from the Home Depot that I

can use by my bed without fear of it toppling.

Luigi

Re: Programable frequency generators.

> thanks luigi...

>

> how do you do this virtual pc thing?

>

> also, you may have already covered this, but what em+ machine do you

> have and how much did it cost?

>

> ariella

>

>

>

>

>

>> You can use the same PC for everything.

>> The only thing I do since I zap every night with it running the

>> frequencies

>> for my new EM+ is to disconnect the laptop from the Internet so as

>> not to

>> leave it at the mercy of potential hackers while I sleep.

>> I'll be upgrading the thing to something with more horsepower since,

>> what

>> with it being a P3, there are jobs it will do VVEEERRRYYY

>> SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWWLLLLYYYY, and some others it just cannot pull off: I

>> am

>> keeping my eyes on a couple of Dells and Vaios out of eBay...

>> Luigi

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ariella, the program is made by a company called " Connectix " , " Virtual

Pc " VPC for short. You can get it from any Mac store, comp usa might

have it. You will also then need a copy of a windows OS to install. If

you buy a " package " an win. OS will come with your VPC software.

Mark...

>

> > You can use the same PC for everything.

> > The only thing I do since I zap every night with it running the

> > frequencies

> > for my new EM+ is to disconnect the laptop from the Internet so as

> > not to

> > leave it at the mercy of potential hackers while I sleep.

> > I'll be upgrading the thing to something with more horsepower since,

> > what

> > with it being a P3, there are jobs it will do VVEEERRRYYY

> > SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWWLLLLYYYY, and some others it just cannot pull off: I

> > am

> > keeping my eyes on a couple of Dells and Vaios out of eBay...

> > Luigi

> >

>

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I've been following this thread from a distance, but I'd like to jump

in at this juncture.

I've just started using a s/h RBT4ss, with a HamerHead FG which is

working fine for me on a day to day basis.

Just for the sake of doing it, and as a long-term ongoing project,

I'd like to build a Bare/Rife device based on Jim Bare's book but

using a p/c powered FG program like Frex, Blaster, or FreqGen.

BTW Freqgen claims to generate square wave signals, perhaps

eliminating the need for a square wave add-on pre-amp/generator.

I like the idea of the little $10.00 square-wave generating pre-amp

kit. Are there any ready built inexpensive little pre-amps on the

market today that could also be used to drive a square wave signal to

a CB?.

I guess the trick for me is to see which soundcard is most adaptable

and powerful enough to get up past the 10,000 Hz. mark.

Does anyone have any suggestions which of the hundreds of different

brands of PC soundcards have the industrial muscle to serve as a

Frequency Generator for a Bare/Rife unit?

I was looking at an older special purpose FG PC card called the GENY2

which was driven by a dos based program which I think claimed to go

past 60,000 Hz. Can newer programs like Frex or FreqGen drive that

card? I gather that item has been discontinued. Are the manufacturers

still around?

Also are there any newer special purpose built PC Frequency Generator

cards available on the market today?

I'm still very much a newbie and in the learning mode and will

appreciate all the help and input I can get.

All the best,

Tony

>

> Hi Jan,

>

> You should be able to use any frequency generator with your R/B

> as long as the output is sufficient. Small amps like the one at

> this website will supply up to 10V peak if you power it with

> 12VDC.

<SNIP>

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I'm a newbie to the Rifing community, but I've been following this

thread with interest. Even though I already have an RBT4 Bare-rife

device that's working fine for me, I'd like to " build my own " as per

Jim Bare's book.

I am quite interested in implementing the combination of PC based

Frequency Generator software and PC soundcard or a specialty

Frequency Generator PC Card.

The only specialty card that I've actually seen is an older PC card

called a GENY-2, which is driven by some fairly rudimentarty DOS

software. Even though this card has been discontinued, this card was

interesting, because unless I'm mistaken I read somewhere that it

could generate up to 60,000 Hz. signals.

BTW can Frex or FreqGen drive the GENY-2 card? Also are they any

newer special purpose Frequency Generator PC cards that could be

driven by Frex or FreqGen?

Also I've been very superficially evaluating both FeqGen, Frex,

Blaster, etc.. and if I'm not mistaken they appear to have the

capacity to generate square wave signals. Won't a generic PC

soundcard output that square wave signal? I understand the need for a

pre-amp to beef up the signal to the CB, but do you really need that

cute little square wave pre-amp to convert signals again to square-

wave to send stuff to the CB?

Is there any specific PC soundcard that members of this forum have

found to be the most suitable for use with Frex or FreqGen etc., for

outputting square wave signals to a (via the pre-amp then to the CB

and then to the tuner etc..) Bare-Rife device?

Would any PC card do that can generate up to and beyond 10,000 Hz.

signals?

I'm looking forward to hearing more comments on this issue,

All the best,

Tony

>

> Just wondering if anyone knows of any companies that are making

> affordable, programable freq generators these days besides

Robin?

>

> Thanks,

> Mark Sheldon

>

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Thanks for your comments.

I've noticed upon reading the specs of some of the sound cards in my

boat anchor collection that some of them do have digital i/o as well

as analog i/o.

Does that mean that if Frex, FreqGen, etc were to input to the PC

soundcard a square wave, then that soundcard could output a square

wave signal to a (pre-amp-> cb->) to a Bare-Rife device?

Also I was curious about something you said. You said Frex can

generate a square wave signal up to 3,000 Hz? Are you sure you don't

mean 30,000 Hz?

As a general question then, if I wanted to make my Bare-Rife device

PC controllable, what combination of software and soundcard would be

equal in performance to a Pro-Gen, HammerHead, F-Scan, free standing

Frequency Generator?

TIA

Tony

>

> Hi Tony,

>

> The early versions of Frex, is really just a front end for Fred

Walters FreqGen, the DOS based frequency generator. I don't know if

this will drive the GENY-2?

>

> Frex, the current version, uses Microsoft ActiveX libraries to

communicate to the computers audio output devices and is very much

locked into the Windows opperating system.

>

> The raw wave forms Frex generates are good to around 3,000Hz for

okay square wave production.

>

> Most sound systems are designed to produce analogue wave forms, and

tries to smooth or round square waves. It does make v. good sine

waves which I use for resonance scanning purposes.

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> Regards,

> Ken

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> Re: Programable frequency generators.

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