Apology

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Kay,

I can only guess that your message was lost in the system

somewhere. Send it to me and I will post it to the list.

(Chronic_pain@...)

Secondarily, you need not feel that you owe the list an apology for

your choice of words. Many others have also said that the return

of pain as a particular medication wore off was " withdrawal. " I

only meant to point out that the control of pain and the return of

pain at the end of the length of time the medicine worked are

neither signs of addiction, just signs that the medication was

working and now its time for another dose.

You always have such interesting and supportive messages, freely

sharing of your own experiences and knowledge. You don't have any

reason to apologize. My response was not to your message (which I

did see, but have no idea where it went) just to the large number

of posts that had used " withdrawal " in the way described above.

I sent the post you had as an attachment to the list. You have not

been dropped from the list. Do you get other messages from the

group or have all messages stopped coming to you?

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In all likelyhood I probably made a mistake...which wasn't my

first, and probably won't be my last. We've had so many changes as

the list server has been bought out a couple of times and the way

we post messages keeps changing.

Looking forward to your continued participation on the list,

Ray

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your nice message. I seem to receiving messages today. Don't

know what that " Alabama " group thing was about. Kay

M. Kay

kayfrank3@...

Re: apology

Kay,

I can only guess that your message was lost in the system

somewhere. Send it to me and I will post it to the list.

(Chronic_pain@...)

Secondarily, you need not feel that you owe the list an apology for

your choice of words. Many others have also said that the return

of pain as a particular medication wore off was " withdrawal. " I

only meant to point out that the control of pain and the return of

pain at the end of the length of time the medicine worked are

neither signs of addiction, just signs that the medication was

working and now its time for another dose.

You always have such interesting and supportive messages, freely

sharing of your own experiences and knowledge. You don't have any

reason to apologize. My response was not to your message (which I

did see, but have no idea where it went) just to the large number

of posts that had used " withdrawal " in the way described above.

I sent the post you had as an attachment to the list. You have not

been dropped from the list. Do you get other messages from the

group or have all messages stopped coming to you?

If there is a glitch in the system concerning your subscription

confirm it for me and let me know. I'll send this note to you at

your personal email address and through the list. If you don't

receive two copies from the above sources let me know and I'll try

to find out what's going on.

In all likelyhood I probably made a mistake...which wasn't my

first, and probably won't be my last. We've had so many changes as

the list server has been bought out a couple of times and the way

we post messages keeps changing.

Looking forward to your continued participation on the list,

Ray

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[Guest guest]

Many others have also said that the return

of pain as a particular medication wore off was " withdrawal. "

In my instance, it was withdrawal. When I stopped the duragesic patch

suddenly, it wasn't just experiencing the pain more, by the next

night I actually felt like I was crawling out of my skin it was

unbearable. I never want to feel that way again. The pharmacist said

that this was my body 'craving' the chemicals it had gotten used to

being there; while this makes sense to me in theory I told her I in

no way crave a medication that is not helping my condition which at

that point it was not in any case (why I called the pain management

doctor) and I wouldn't ever use it even if it were effective if I

don't have the reassurance that a doctor would be following me to

make sure this never happens again. I will not ever stop taking a

medication like that again if I can help it. I didn't know what could

happen.

[Guest guest]

Jan,

This is beautiful. Thanks for this post Jan. This is truly what it

is all about. This is the way out of level two, " forgiveness "

or " Learning who I would be without my story " .

Steve Daily

> I've done ACIM (a course in Miracles), meditation, and many other

ways

> to break through from level two's illusion to level one's reality.

> NOTHING works better than the work. I'm finding the way I think and

> react changing to such a sweet place. I'm so thankful....

>

> Concern - shared reality about a person on line - does that make it

> any more real for anyone - I don't feel good about my being in

> ZenBear's business. I apologize to and realize that whoever

you

> want to be is fine - why am I owning your just here to show my purty

> plummage so deeply - because I am you and when I behave in the way I

> perceive you behaving it's a part of me that I don't embrace and

love

> yet. Thanks - Jan

[Guest guest]

To my entire address book,

I am very sorry about the recent Face Book Invite that came to you. My Husband apparently hit the wrong button when on a site that is connected to my FB account.

Thanks

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