Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 That¹s partially true, and partially wrong. For a brief synopsis on that mailer, check out: > http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/ss.html > I¹ve reposted some of the article here, below. -- Robbie in FL, co-moderator chronic_pain. AS/ReA 18 + years, and still going... feralelf@... Is it true? No and yes. No, members of Congress have paid Social Security deductions on their salaries since 1984. Yes, members of Congress do have generous pension fund financed by taxes. Why? Federal civilian employees, including members of Congress, were covered by Social Security by P.L. [Public Law] 98-21 in 1984. Members of Congress are also covered by a pension plan that may pay amounts substantially over their annual Congressional annual salaries, currently $133,600. Note that the figures cited in the email of lifetime benefits of $7,900,000 are incorrect. Long serving members of Congress can expect to draw upwards of $1,000,000 in benefits from the pension fund over their retirement. When? April 2000 Comments Typical of outrage emails, this email conflates several issues. To equate political reform, Social Security benefits and pension fund benefits is disingenuous. Many, if not all, reap or will reap the rewards of both Social Security and private retirement benefits. The specific claim that Congress has failed to reform Social Security because of their generous pension and lack of dependence on Social Security benefits is false because (a) Congress does pay into and receive benefits from Social Security and ( Social Security reform generates intense political controversy and that controversy tends to cause reform to be easily deadlocked. Would Congress be more accountable or willing to reform if it didn't have a generous publicly financed pension fund? Maybe, maybe not, though the political apathy that has prevailed for decades gives little incentive for Congress to undertake large reforms. Should Congress have a pension bankrolled by taxpayers? It depends on your political leanings. If you consider service in Congress to be a privilege unworthy of lavish remuneration then a generous pension plan is not needed. If you think that serving in Congress is worthy of the same kind of compensation that a demanding job of great responsibility merits, a pension fund is not an unusual benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 HA! Yeah, guess it's technically from strangulation... or drowning.... Stands to reason that if you can't breathe, something else is gonna konk out eventually. This goes to the overall ignorance that is causing asthmatics to die. > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > die from and asthma attack. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 hah whatever....thats a new onekmanjames wrote: Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannotdie from and asthma attack. We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 its really interesting to hear and read stuff like that when a friend of mine fell over dead at church basketball from heart complications from asthmaMartha wrote: HA! Yeah, guess it's technically from strangulation... or drowning.... Stands to reason that if you can't breathe, something else is gonna konk out eventually. This goes to the overall ignorance that is causing asthmatics to die.> Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> die from and asthma attack.>> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I also have a heart murmur tooNoah Riding wrote: its really interesting to hear and read stuff like that when a friend of mine fell over dead at church basketball from heart complications from asthmaMartha <del-maratlantic (DOT) net> wrote: HA! Yeah, guess it's technically from strangulation... or drowning.... Stands to reason that if you can't breathe, something else is gonna konk out eventually. This goes to the overall ignorance that is causing asthmatics to die.> Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> die from and asthma attack.>> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die every day because of ASTHMA. > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on since 1993 but no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and asthma is not deadly.lrhogan04 wrote: My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die every day because of ASTHMA.> > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> > die from and asthma attack.> >> > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > > ---------------------------------> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.> Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 let me ask you which state you're in? it seems that a lot of the disability approach to asthma may seem different state to state.lrhogan04 wrote: My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die every day because of ASTHMA.> > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> > die from and asthma attack.> >> > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > > ---------------------------------> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.> Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I've heard that one before: I think it's a common belief. I had a colleague tell me once that you can't possibly die from an asthma attack because, after all, once you lost consciousness you would start to breathe normally. Of course, this explanation only makes sense if you don't understand the difference between an asthmatic and a stubborn little kid who holds his breath when he has a tantrum. > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > die from and asthma attack. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too bad that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in progress. Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it is (and they're the calm ones). > how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on > since 1993 but > no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and asthma > is not deadly. > > lrhogan04 wrote: > > My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since > she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for > disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits > since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die > every day because of ASTHMA. > > > > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > Travel. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at > Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 People have different expectations what is trully an asthma attack. About a year a go I had one at work and was getting a little breathless and some tightness and was trying to ignore. But what really indicated I was having a bad attack was I could not speak a full sentence and my lips were turning blue. I wasn't weezing or coughing and making tons of commotion which most people think is an asthma attack. People don't know asthma comes in many forms and there are several different symptoms that can indicate an asthma attack. That's why some people are never diagnosised or really understand what it is. If it can be controlled all the time with two puffs of an inhaler then we would not be here discussing our issues - mine is controlled probabably 80% of the time. I will tell you that I will not trying working that 20% -- I have been at work in the past and all it does is gets me in trouble when I am trying to cope with an asthma attack. My new advise is if you are having asthma and you are feeling it is uncontrolled -- take a sick day and call the doctor. I have found asthma affects my performance and I should not be at work when I have asthma. Now days if I go home and rest -- I am better the next day and will function normally. If you can't get your asthma under crontrolled under medical supervision then I think you have a right to apply for short term disability. I had a go worker who did get it when she was employed for a corporate position in California. She was able to take the time off to get it under control and now is doing great. I think peak flows and symptoms need to be documented daily to back you up. This is just my perspective. Martha wrote: I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too bad that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in progress. Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it is (and they're the calm ones).> how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on > since 1993 but> no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and asthma > is not deadly.>> lrhogan04 wrote:>> My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since> she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for> disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits> since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die> every day because of ASTHMA.>> > >> > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> > > die from and asthma attack.> > >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------> > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo!> Travel.> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!> > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at> Yahoo! Games.> >>>>>>> Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!> Webber Independent Consultant Southern Livng At Home Denver, COmelwebber22@... Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Like you, my asthma has been well controlled for at least the past 25 years. Two things that seemed to really help me was that I was doing a lot of exercising during my 20s and 30s--mostly swimming--plus I took up English riding (dressage). It was amazing how my lung capacity increased. When I first started riding, I couldn't manage more than about 10 minutes without having to use my spray. After several years, I could ride nearly all day without using any inhalant and wasn't taking any other medications. I was always prone to hide my asthma from people. If I had to use my spray I dashed to a ladies' room or I'd wait until I was in my car. When I did have severe attacks (the ones that send you to the ER) the wheezing was pretty loud and I was probably obvious that I was in breathing distress (mainly because I couldn't talk very well). Never looked to my lips for low blood-oxygen levels, I was taught to look at my fingernails. If they were still pink, I was going to be okay...eventually. Lately, for some unexplained reason, my asthma has grown worse--up every night with fairly severe attacks. Have wracked my brain to figure out the cause because my lifestyle hasn't changed in any noticeable way. Consequently, I'm sleep deprived, and that's not good. Rest is important for asthmatics. On Saturday, June 16, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Webber wrote: > People have different expectations what is trully an asthma attack. > About a year a go I had one at work and was getting a little > breathless and some tightness and was trying to ignore. But what > really indicated I was having a bad attack was I could not speak a > full sentence and my lips were turning blue. I wasn't weezing or > coughing and making tons of commotion which most people think is an > asthma attack. People don't know asthma comes in many forms and > there are several different symptoms that can indicate an asthma > attack. That's why some people are never diagnosised or really > understand what it is. If it can be controlled all the time with two > puffs of an inhaler then we would not be here discussing our issues - > mine is controlled probabably 80% of the time. > > I will tell you that I will not trying working that 20% -- I have been > at work in the past and all it does is gets me in trouble when I am > trying to cope with an asthma attack. My new advise is if you are > having asthma and you are feeling it is uncontrolled -- take a sick > day and call the doctor. I have found asthma affects my performance > and I should not be at work when I have asthma. Now days if I go home > and rest -- I am better the next day and will function normally. > > If you can't get your asthma under crontrolled under medical > supervision then I think you have a right to apply for short term > disability. I had a go worker who did get it when she was employed > for a corporate position in California. She was able to take the time > off to get it under control and now is doing great. > > I think peak flows and symptoms need to be documented daily to back > you up. > > This is just my perspective. > > > Martha wrote: > > I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too bad > that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an > ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma > is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in progress. > Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors > have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing > around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it > is (and they're the calm ones). > > > > > how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on > > since 1993 but > > no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and asthma > > is not deadly. > > > > lrhogan04 wrote: > > > > My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since > > she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for > > disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits > > since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die > > every day because of ASTHMA. > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > > > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > > Travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at > > Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! > > > > > > > Webber > Independent Consultant > Southern Livng At Home > Denver, CO > > melwebber22@... > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > <image.tiff> > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Yes swimming is the best thing for us. I have been able to do my 3 miles walking each day. I want to get back to running was able to do 2 miles on the treadmill in February and had not been able to do that in years. When I lived in San Francisco I use to walk the hills and run by the bay that really helped. I however had a lot of attacks at work in one of the big high rise office buildings -- we think it had sick building disease since all of us who had asthma kept having attacks. Luckily my doctors office was nearby and I would go over there for albuteral treatments. Martha -- have you been allergy tested lately. Could you be allergic to dust mites and have your mattress and bedding allergy proof. Also it is not best to sleep with down comfortors and pillows. They attract dust mites, too. They also say that there is a link with women waking up between 4am and 6am with asthma and it could be due to hormonal changes. They found our hormone levels change at that time. Martha wrote: Like you, my asthma has been well controlled for at least the past 25 years. Two things that seemed to really help me was that I was doing a lot of exercising during my 20s and 30s--mostly swimming--plus I took up English riding (dressage). It was amazing how my lung capacity increased. When I first started riding, I couldn't manage more than about 10 minutes without having to use my spray. After several years, I could ride nearly all day without using any inhalant and wasn't taking any other medications.I was always prone to hide my asthma from people. If I had to use my spray I dashed to a ladies' room or I'd wait until I was in my car. When I did have severe attacks (the ones that send you to the ER) the wheezing was pretty loud and I was probably obvious that I was in breathing distress (mainly because I couldn't talk very well). Never looked to my lips for low blood-oxygen levels, I was taught to look at my fingernails. If they were still pink, I was going to be okay...eventually.Lately, for some unexplained reason, my asthma has grown worse--up every night with fairly severe attacks. Have wracked my brain to figure out the cause because my lifestyle hasn't changed in any noticeable way. Consequently, I'm sleep deprived, and that's not good. Rest is important for asthmatics.On Saturday, June 16, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Webber wrote:> People have different expectations what is trully an asthma attack. > About a year a go I had one at work and was getting a little > breathless and some tightness and was trying to ignore. But what > really indicated I was having a bad attack was I could not speak a > full sentence and my lips were turning blue. I wasn't weezing or > coughing and making tons of commotion which most people think is an > asthma attack. People don't know asthma comes in many forms and > there are several different symptoms that can indicate an asthma > attack. That's why some people are never diagnosised or really > understand what it is. If it can be controlled all the time with two > puffs of an inhaler then we would not be here discussing our issues - > mine is controlled probabably 80% of the time.> > I will tell you that I will not trying working that 20% -- I have been > at work in the past and all it does is gets me in trouble when I am > trying to cope with an asthma attack. My new advise is if you are > having asthma and you are feeling it is uncontrolled -- take a sick > day and call the doctor. I have found asthma affects my performance > and I should not be at work when I have asthma. Now days if I go home > and rest -- I am better the next day and will function normally.> > If you can't get your asthma under crontrolled under medical > supervision then I think you have a right to apply for short term > disability. I had a go worker who did get it when she was employed > for a corporate position in California. She was able to take the time > off to get it under control and now is doing great.> > I think peak flows and symptoms need to be documented daily to back > you up.> > This is just my perspective. > >> Martha wrote:>> I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too bad> that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an> ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma> is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in progress.> Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors> have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing> around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it> is (and they're the calm ones).>> >> > how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on> > since 1993 but> > no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and asthma> > is not deadly.> >> > lrhogan04 wrote:> >> > My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since> > she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for> > disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits> > since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die> > every day because of ASTHMA.> >> > > > >> > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> > > > die from and asthma attack.> > > >> > > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------> > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo!> > Travel.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------> > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!> > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at> > Yahoo! Games.> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today!> >>>>>> Webber> Independent Consultant> Southern Livng At Home> Denver, CO> > melwebber22@...> Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa> >>>>> Building a website is a piece of cake.> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> Webber Independent Consultant Southern Livng At Home Denver, COmelwebber22@... Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Don't have dough for allergy tests--no insurance coverage. Also, IMHO, have never bought into the prevailing thought that dust mites cause asthma. If mites are the cause, how come I was the only asthmatic in my schools as I was growing up? Surely, dust mites were present in homes besides mine. Meanwhile, the number of asthmatics has risen dramatically...a sign of higher dust mite populations? As you point out, sick buildings can have a great affect. One crazy irritant I've run into are dry erase markers--they really irritate my lungs and sometimes cause an outright attack. Do agree about the hormone link. My attacks are almost like clockwork--2:30 to 3 am. They're generally controlled with a quick inhalation of Albuterol. But over the years I've known a number of menopausal women who suddenly became asthmatics--and others whose juvenile asthma returned after a nearly asthma-free adulthood. More study needs to be done on the endocrine-asthma connection...and the factor of stress and adrenaline fatigue. Appreciate your suggestions, but I swore years ago that I'd never live my life around asthma again (as far as possible). Spent a truly miserable childhood trying to sleep on plastic, having no pets--not even a stuffed animal--no sleep overs with friends, no trick-or-treating at Halloween. Must say, too, that I get frustrated listening to doctors and pharmacists tell me that asthma is " so much better controlled today. " I just don't see it. The mortality rate is going up, not down. > Yes swimming is the best thing for us. I have been able to do my 3 > miles walking each day. I want to get back to running was able to do > 2 miles on the treadmill in February and had not been able to do that > in years. When I lived in San Francisco I use to walk the hills and > run by the bay that really helped. I however had a lot of attacks at > work in one of the big high rise office buildings -- we think it had > sick building disease since all of us who had asthma kept having > attacks. Luckily my doctors office was nearby and I would go over > there for albuteral treatments. > > Martha -- have you been allergy tested lately. Could you be allergic > to dust mites and have your mattress and bedding allergy proof. Also > it is not best to sleep with down comfortors and pillows. They > attract dust mites, too. > > They also say that there is a link with women waking up between 4am > and 6am with asthma and it could be due to hormonal changes. They > found our hormone levels change at that time. > > > > > Martha wrote: > > Like you, my asthma has been well controlled for at least the past 25 > years. Two things that seemed to really help me was that I was doing a > lot of exercising during my 20s and 30s--mostly swimming--plus I took > up English riding (dressage). It was amazing how my lung capacity > increased. When I first started riding, I couldn't manage more than > about 10 minutes without having to use my spray. After several years, > I could ride nearly all day without using any inhalant and wasn't > taking any other medications. > > I was always prone to hide my asthma from people. If I had to use my > spray I dashed to a ladies' room or I'd wait until I was in my car. > When I did have severe attacks (the ones that send you to the ER) the > wheezing was pretty loud and I was probably obvious that I was in > breathing distress (mainly because I couldn't talk very well). Never > looked to my lips for low blood-oxygen levels, I was taught to look at > my fingernails. If they were still pink, I was going to be > okay...eventually. > > Lately, for some unexplained reason, my asthma has grown worse--up > every night with fairly severe attacks. Have wracked my brain to > figure out the cause because my lifestyle hasn't changed in any > noticeable way. Consequently, I'm sleep deprived, and that's not good. > Rest is important for asthmatics. > On Saturday, June 16, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Webber wrote: > > > People have different expectations what is trully an asthma attack. > > About a year a go I had one at work and was getting a little > > breathless and some tightness and was trying to ignore. But what > > really indicated I was having a bad attack was I could not speak a > > full sentence and my lips were turning blue. I wasn't weezing or > > coughing and making tons of commotion which most people think is an > > asthma attack. People don't know asthma comes in many forms and > > there are several different symptoms that can indicate an asthma > > attack. That's why some people are never diagnosised or really > > understand what it is. If it can be controlled all the time with two > > puffs of an inhaler then we would not be here discussing our issues - > > mine is controlled probabably 80% of the time. > > > > I will tell you that I will not trying working that 20% -- I have > been > > at work in the past and all it does is gets me in trouble when I am > > trying to cope with an asthma attack. My new advise is if you are > > having asthma and you are feeling it is uncontrolled -- take a sick > > day and call the doctor. I have found asthma affects my performance > > and I should not be at work when I have asthma. Now days if I go > home > > and rest -- I am better the next day and will function normally. > > > > If you can't get your asthma under crontrolled under medical > > supervision then I think you have a right to apply for short term > > disability. I had a go worker who did get it when she was employed > > for a corporate position in California. She was able to take the > time > > off to get it under control and now is doing great. > > > > I think peak flows and symptoms need to be documented daily to back > > you up. > > > > This is just my perspective. > > > > > > Martha wrote: > > > > I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too > bad > > that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an > > ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma > > is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in > progress. > > Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors > > have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing > > around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it > > is (and they're the calm ones). > > > > > > > > > how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on > > > since 1993 but > > > no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and > asthma > > > is not deadly. > > > > > > lrhogan04 wrote: > > > > > > My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since > > > she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for > > > disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits > > > since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die > > > every day because of ASTHMA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > > > > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > > > Travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at > > > Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webber > > Independent Consultant > > Southern Livng At Home > > Denver, CO > > > > melwebber22@... > > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Webber > Independent Consultant > Southern Livng At Home > Denver, CO > > melwebber22@... > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > <image.tiff> > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new > Car Finder tool. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 My daughter was approved right away because I had her doctor behind my back. I made sure we had all her medical records of every hospital visit through the ER, every hospitalization, and every in office doctors visit, along with help from her doctor talking to them personally we were approved.Martha wrote: Don't have dough for allergy tests--no insurance coverage.Also, IMHO, have never bought into the prevailing thought that dust mites cause asthma. If mites are the cause, how come I was the only asthmatic in my schools as I was growing up? Surely, dust mites were present in homes besides mine. Meanwhile, the number of asthmatics has risen dramatically...a sign of higher dust mite populations? As you point out, sick buildings can have a great affect. One crazy irritant I've run into are dry erase markers--they really irritate my lungs and sometimes cause an outright attack.Do agree about the hormone link. My attacks are almost like clockwork--2:30 to 3 am. They're generally controlled with a quick inhalation of Albuterol. But over the years I've known a number of menopausal women who suddenly became asthmatics--and others whose juvenile asthma returned after a nearly asthma-free adulthood. More study needs to be done on the endocrine-asthma connection...and the factor of stress and adrenaline fatigue.Appreciate your suggestions, but I swore years ago that I'd never live my life around asthma again (as far as possible). Spent a truly miserable childhood trying to sleep on plastic, having no pets--not even a stuffed animal--no sleep overs with friends, no trick-or-treating at Halloween.Must say, too, that I get frustrated listening to doctors and pharmacists tell me that asthma is "so much better controlled today." I just don't see it. The mortality rate is going up, not down.> Yes swimming is the best thing for us. I have been able to do my 3 > miles walking each day. I want to get back to running was able to do > 2 miles on the treadmill in February and had not been able to do that > in years. When I lived in San Francisco I use to walk the hills and > run by the bay that really helped. I however had a lot of attacks at > work in one of the big high rise office buildings -- we think it had > sick building disease since all of us who had asthma kept having > attacks. Luckily my doctors office was nearby and I would go over> there for albuteral treatments.> > Martha -- have you been allergy tested lately. Could you be allergic > to dust mites and have your mattress and bedding allergy proof. Also > it is not best to sleep with down comfortors and pillows. They > attract dust mites, too.> > They also say that there is a link with women waking up between 4am > and 6am with asthma and it could be due to hormonal changes. They > found our hormone levels change at that time. > > > >> Martha wrote:>> Like you, my asthma has been well controlled for at least the past 25> years. Two things that seemed to really help me was that I was doing a> lot of exercising during my 20s and 30s--mostly swimming--plus I took> up English riding (dressage). It was amazing how my lung capacity> increased. When I first started riding, I couldn't manage more than> about 10 minutes without having to use my spray. After several years,> I could ride nearly all day without using any inhalant and wasn't> taking any other medications.>> I was always prone to hide my asthma from people. If I had to use my> spray I dashed to a ladies' room or I'd wait until I was in my car.> When I did have severe attacks (the ones that send you to the ER) the> wheezing was pretty loud and I was probably obvious that I was in> breathing distress (mainly because I couldn't talk very well). Never> looked to my lips for low blood-oxygen levels, I was taught to look at> my fingernails. If they were still pink, I was going to be> okay...eventually.>> Lately, for some unexplained reason, my asthma has grown worse--up> every night with fairly severe attacks. Have wracked my brain to> figure out the cause because my lifestyle hasn't changed in any> noticeable way. Consequently, I'm sleep deprived, and that's not good.> Rest is important for asthmatics.> On Saturday, June 16, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Webber wrote:>> > People have different expectations what is trully an asthma attack. > > About a year a go I had one at work and was getting a little> > breathless and some tightness and was trying to ignore. But what> > really indicated I was having a bad attack was I could not speak a> > full sentence and my lips were turning blue. I wasn't weezing or> > coughing and making tons of commotion which most people think is an> > asthma attack. People don't know asthma comes in many forms and> > there are several different symptoms that can indicate an asthma> > attack. That's why some people are never diagnosised or really> > understand what it is. If it can be controlled all the time with two> > puffs of an inhaler then we would not be here discussing our issues -> > mine is controlled probabably 80% of the time.> > > > I will tell you that I will not trying working that 20% -- I have > been> > at work in the past and all it does is gets me in trouble when I am> > trying to cope with an asthma attack. My new advise is if you are> > having asthma and you are feeling it is uncontrolled -- take a sick> > day and call the doctor. I have found asthma affects my performance> > and I should not be at work when I have asthma. Now days if I go > home> > and rest -- I am better the next day and will function normally.> > > > If you can't get your asthma under crontrolled under medical> > supervision then I think you have a right to apply for short term> > disability. I had a go worker who did get it when she was employed> > for a corporate position in California. She was able to take the > time> > off to get it under control and now is doing great.> > > > I think peak flows and symptoms need to be documented daily to back> > you up.> > > > This is just my perspective. > > > >> > Martha wrote:> >> > I certainly don't mean this in any joking sort of way, but it's too > bad> > that maybe the next time you have an attack you couldn't have an> > ambulance take you to the SSA office. A lot of ignorance about asthma> > is because many people have never seen a full blown attack in > progress.> > Every darned time I've ever gone to the ER, I can tell if the doctors> > have ever seen an attack before. The ones who haven't are racing> > around like scared rabbits. Experienced doctors know how dangerous it> > is (and they're the calm ones).> >> > > >> > > how did you get her on ssi disability. I have been trying to get on> > > since 1993 but> > > no luck. All they tell is sorry you have been turned down and > asthma> > > is not deadly.> > >> > > lrhogan04 wrote:> > >> > > My daughter that is 6 years old now was diagnosed with asthma since> > > she was three months old. When she was a year old, I applied for> > > disability and she was approved and has been receiving benifits> > > since. All people need to realize how serious asthma is. People die> > > every day because of ASTHMA.> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot> > > > > die from and asthma attack.> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Need a vacation? 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Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Swimming in pools is only useful if you don't have a problem with chlorine. Every time I've taken a course on swimming (notably once a year when I was in high school) my asthma has gradually increased for six weeks, to the point where it takes months to get back to " normal. " > > > > > > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people cannot > > > > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > > > Travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at > > > Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webber > > Independent Consultant > > Southern Livng At Home > > Denver, CO > > > > melwebber22@... > > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > Webber > Independent Consultant > Southern Livng At Home > Denver, CO > > melwebber22@... > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Good point. While I didn't have problems with pool chlorine, I have had problems when I bleach clothes or use chlorine bleach to clean with. It can be extremely irritating to the bronchial tubes. > Swimming in pools is only useful if you don't have a problem with > chlorine. Every time I've taken a course on swimming (notably once > a year when I was in high school) my asthma has gradually increased > for six weeks, to the point where it takes months to get back > to " normal. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all I forget to tell ya'll that ssa told me people > cannot > > > > > > die from and asthma attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > > > > Travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > > > > > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's > economy) at > > > > Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research > Panel > > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webber > > > Independent Consultant > > > Southern Livng At Home > > > Denver, CO > > > > > > melwebber22@... > > > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > Webber > > Independent Consultant > > Southern Livng At Home > > Denver, CO > > > > melwebber22@... > > Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos > new Car Finder tool. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Has anyone been treated disrespectfully by the social security disability determination office? I just had a conversation with the rep. and she was so rude and disrespectful. It doesn't make any sense to me to be treated in this manner when I am just trying to apply for my child to receive disability. She even hung up on me. What should I do? Does anyone know where the main governmental office is for the office for social security determination is located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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