[Raw Dairy] Raw Milk Issue

[Guest guest]

Broke my right wrist

so typing skills are severely limited here..

My place is not “clean”.

But NEVER, and my

kids will yell if they see this happen, because they know, put your hands into

the jars, clean OR dirty.

Bare hands are not

an issue if they do not touch the milk or inside of the jars or lids, etc. That

said. We use on many jars a plastic that requires handling, so clean hands are

a must. Jugs should not, IMO, be filled from a bulk tank used for

pasteurization and run through the hose, especially if dirty. Pasteurization of

milk often, not always of course, puts the mindset where the cleanliness is not

as much of an issue.

My next step would

be to go early again and see exactly what seems t be happening. It could have

been a fluke. Or not.

If it appears the

same, juts tell the farmer your concern. Who cleans your jars and what type?

www.majestyfarm.com

Sometimes I

wonder whether the world is being run by smart

people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Denice

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007

10:42 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: **Possible_Spam**

Raw Milk Issue

Hi everyone

I am looking for some help with a milk coop issue. I am the manager

of a raw milk coop. A member went to get the milk recently and

because of all the groups picking up milk, they had to wait. They

also got to see how the milk went from the tank into the jugs.

Apparently the person filling the jugs hands were dirty and he touched

the inside of the jugs (lip and cap) in the process of filling the

jug. Person watching this process was concerned with lack of

cleanliness and use of bare hands. Major concern was introduction of

pathogen into the raw milk.

Person also noted that there was a hose under the tank and when he

inquired what it was for was told that it was used for transfer of

milk into vehicle (I assume to sell for pasteurization). Per person

picking up milk the hose was " gross " with lots of dirt ~ his concern

was that if that was attached to the tank and then taken off so that

individual jugs could be filled wouldn't there be possible contamination.

Honestly the place is a farm; it is not a pristine food prep area.

I personally don't expect it to be but I do not know what is

" reasonable " level of cleanliness verses unsafe.

Please give me your thoughts. And remember that most of the people in

our raw milk co-op are city-fied folk who are used to pristine grocery

stores.

BTW ... there have been NO incidents of any illness from this milk.

Denice

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response ... especially with a broken wrist (ouch!).The jugs are plastic as are the lids. I consider our driver to be reliable so if he reported that the person filling the jugs touched the inside of the jugs/lids, that most likely is what took place. I guess I need to add some clarification. The tank in question is filled with raw milk ~ the hose referenced is only used to take raw milk from the tank and fill into another vehicle (would assume that this would be vehicle heading to pasteurization processing plant). This farm primarily does raw milk but I am sure that they have extra that they sell to milk wholesaler.Thanks again for your input. Denice