Re: Q about the New Normal for dairy

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Interesting since I HAVE asthma and I drink milk as well as make Buttermilk (RAW). Also do some soft cheese but I do a 140 degree pasteurizing on that milk.

Pat

----- Dear Raw Dairy Colleagues:

Traditional wisdom limits dairy for respiratory illnesses.

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie Ann,

No this does not usually hold true for raw dairy. The thing

that normally causes respiratory problems from drinking

pasteurized milk is the altered casein proteins. They are

altered from the heat of pastueirzation, and they cause

phlegm in the sinuses and lungs. I used to suffer from that

and when I switched to raw dairy the problem disappeared

like magic. Now, if you have a TRUE dairy allergy (rare), then

not even raw milk will help. The only things that someone

with a true dairy allergy can drink are the fermented dairy

products, like kefir, yogurt, buttermilk, etc. and Idon't know

all the science behind it, but it is the case. I would hazard a

guess and say that the fermentation process restores the

proteins in some way....it certainly uses up the lactose, I do

know that.

You mention asthma. I have read that asthma can be

totally cured by drinking raw milk. And I have even read that

Raw dairy was used by the Mayo Clinic in centuries past as a

cure for many ailments.

As far as a cold, you should cut back on eating everything

during a cold virus. The virus feeds on your food as well,

and that's why your body loses it's appetite. It knows that

you need to starve a cold, and feed a fever. Fever is usually

(but not always) a bacterial infection and you SHOULD eat

during that, to have strength to fight off the infection.

D.

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> Dear Raw Dairy Colleagues:

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> Traditional wisdom limits dairy for respiratory illnesses.

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> Does this hold for raw dairy? For example, should I stop drinking kefir

> during a cold? Cut back on goat milk if there's an asthma trigger?

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> Laurie Ann

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[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie Ann,

This is MY situation only...I cannot speak for others. I had not been

able to drink milk for years. I had severe asthma and allergies and

mild lactose intolerance. I am also a singer and milk gave me horrible

mucous. That was store bought, pasteurized, homogenized poison. Now, I

drink raw milk...my husband and I drink 3 gallons a week. I also make

our butter, raw yogurt and kefir. I have no problems with the milk at

all. I also no longer take ANY medications. I drink raw cows' milk, not

goats. Good luck!

Patty:)

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> Dear Raw Dairy Colleagues:

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> Traditional wisdom limits dairy for respiratory illnesses.

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> Does this hold for raw dairy? For example, should I stop drinking

kefir

> during a cold? Cut back on goat milk if there's an asthma trigger?

>

> Laurie Ann

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[Guest guest]

Not to nitpick, but it's not raw after it's been pasteurized.

Patty:)

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> Interesting since I HAVE asthma and I drink milk as well as make

Buttermilk (RAW). Also do some soft cheese but I do a 140 degree

pasteurizing on that milk.

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> Pat

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> Dear Raw Dairy Colleagues:

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> Traditional wisdom limits dairy for respiratory illnesses.

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[Guest guest]



My husband has gotten a lot of control over his asthma with raw goat milk kefir and drinking raw. Also other vitamins etc.

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...

Re: Q about the "New Normal" for dairy

Interesting since I HAVE asthma and I drink milk as well as make Buttermilk (RAW). Also do some soft cheese but I do a 140 degree pasteurizing on that milk.

Pat

----- Dear Raw Dairy Colleagues:

Traditional wisdom limits dairy for respiratory illnesses.

[Guest guest]

I always heard Feed a cold ,starve a fever, so I looked it up on the web. I found this in reference (as well as many others). ?????? Who knows?

One popular but unproven theory is that fasting during a fever helps lower body temperature, while eating plenty of food helps raise it, thus helping to fight off a cold. Perhaps the only study suggesting that either claim had any validity was published in the journal Clinical and Diagnostic Laboratory Immunology in 2002 by a team of Dutch scientists. They found that eating a meal increases a type of immune response that fights off the viruses responsible for colds, while fasting seemed to stimulate an immune response that could help fight off the infections associated with most fevers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/health/13real.html?ex=1329022800en=cbdd3fa58855d5d4ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss

or this

The maxim "feed a cold, starve a fever" may be right after all, researchers have discovered.

Until now, most doctors and nutritionists have rejected the idea as a myth. But Dutch scientists have found that eating a meal boosts the type of immune response that destroys the viruses responsible for colds, while fasting stimulates the response that tackles the bacterial infections responsible for most fevers.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1777

also interesting: http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/feedcolstarf.html

FYI,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all of you who responded! It sounds like we should cut back on cheese, but continue with raw milk products.

My son, who has had asthma, had his first " episode " in 4 years when we were traveling and ran out of raw milk! So I know that he, for one, really needs it to stay healthy!

Laurie Ann

[Guest guest]

do you eat raw cheese? if so, cheese should be fine. I eat lots of it.

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> Thanks to all of you who responded! It sounds like we should cut back on

> cheese, but continue with raw milk products.

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> My son, who has had asthma, had his first " episode " in 4 years when we

> were traveling and ran out of raw milk! So I know that he, for one,

> really needs it to stay healthy!

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> Laurie Ann

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