Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

March 31, 2011

Hi, I hope the moderator doesn't consider this spam or solicitation

because i don't mean it to be.

AIT has become very expensive. I am the founder of MIracle Mountain in

NC but we have retired and closed the center. We have done AIT for 10

years, in fact, we required it with HBOT because of its effectiveness.

I have seen some amazing results with it for autism. My wife, Judy,

and I have a motor home we plan on spending a lot of time in and I still

have my AIT equipment. AIT normally runs from $1400 to $1800 and it

is difficult for many parents to afford it. In addition it is a 10 day

program and most of the time, it is not convenient or close enough

without staying away from home which adds more expense. At MIracle

Mountain we provided therapies for HBOT and AIT almost at cost for over

22,000 treatments. I have a grandson with Cerebral Palsy which is the

reason we did all this.

We are now considering traveling to different areas for 2 weeks at a

time and doing AIT for kids who normally cannot afford it or where there

is none available and doing AIT at low cost. We only want to cover our

expenses and would probably need at least 3 clients at a time to reduce

the costs for everyone. We are considering charging $800 each with 2

people, and $600 each with 3 or more people. We have not made this

decision and when I saw your post I thought it would be a good time to

get some opinions and Georgia is within easy reach. We have the

special equipment needed already and we especially miss working with

kids. We have treated children from 19 countries and if we do this, it

will cover our expenses and give us an opportunity to see the country

which is why we bought our motor home.

Let me know if this is of interest and it would be up to the clients to

find other parents looking for AIT. It requires 2 sessions per day and

we could do them to fit peoples schedules. We were set up and worked

with belle Stahley who is the Mother of an autistic child and she

introduced Dr. Barard and AIT into the USA.

This is not a solicitation, so don't blast me for trying to drum up

business. This is something we love and we may even do some free

treatments if we can cover our expenses. Not looking for profit. I

am 67 years old and there are parents on this list who have been to

Miracle Mountain with their kids and I think they will vouch for us.

I am just thinking out loud and would like some feedback on whether this

would be helpful. It is not something we have to do and I have a buyer

for my AIT equipment but I thought this might be an opportunity to help

a lot of children without hard work. You can email me privately if you

like.

Hartsoe

rhartsoe@ skybest.com

March 31, 2011

Thanks for the information. I will contact you thur e-mail. I was beginning to think Georgia did not have AIT services.This website don't have any providers in Georgia http://www.aitinstitute.org/ait_usa.htm

I did find some listening therapy thur Tomatis. So I'm looking at AIT and Tomatis right now.

Thank you,

A.Simon,

"I know God promises not to give me more than I can handle.

I just wish he didn't trust me so much."-Mother

Subject: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)To: autism-georgia Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 10:35 AM

Hi, I hope the moderator doesn't consider this spam or solicitation because i don't mean it to be.AIT has become very expensive. I am the founder of MIracle Mountain in NC but we have retired and closed the center. We have done AIT for 10 years, in fact, we required it with HBOT because of its effectiveness. I have seen some amazing results with it for autism. My wife, Judy, and I have a motor home we plan on spending a lot of time in and I still have my AIT equipment. AIT normally runs from $1400 to $1800 and it is difficult for many parents to afford it. In addition it is a 10 day program and most of the time, it is not convenient or close enough without staying away from home which adds more expense. At MIracle Mountain we provided therapies for HBOT and AIT almost at cost for over 22,000 treatments. I have a grandson with Cerebral Palsy which is the reason we did all this.We are now

considering traveling to different areas for 2 weeks at a time and doing AIT for kids who normally cannot afford it or where there is none available and doing AIT at low cost. We only want to cover our expenses and would probably need at least 3 clients at a time to reduce the costs for everyone. We are considering charging $800 each with 2 people, and $600 each with 3 or more people. We have not made this decision and when I saw your post I thought it would be a good time to get some opinions and Georgia is within easy reach. We have the special equipment needed already and we especially miss working with kids. We have treated children from 19 countries and if we do this, it will cover our expenses and give us an opportunity to see the country which is why we bought our motor home.Let me know if this is of interest and it would be up to the clients to find other parents looking for AIT. It

requires 2 sessions per day and we could do them to fit peoples schedules. We were set up and worked with belle Stahley who is the Mother of an autistic child and she introduced Dr. Barard and AIT into the USA.This is not a solicitation, so don't blast me for trying to drum up business. This is something we love and we may even do some free treatments if we can cover our expenses. Not looking for profit. I am 67 years old and there are parents on this list who have been to Miracle Mountain with their kids and I think they will vouch for us. I am just thinking out loud and would like some feedback on whether this would be helpful. It is not something we have to do and I have a buyer for my AIT equipment but I thought this might be an opportunity to help a lot of children without hard work. You can email me privately if you like. Hartsoerhartsoe@

skybest.com

March 31, 2011

We would be interested if we can get the money together for 2 kids. I bet more

people would be if they knew.. are you on the TACA list?

March 31, 2011

K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities. Please feel free to contact us atklsolutions@... or call Kiernan, AIT Practitioner Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

That's good to know, . We will probably not come to the Atlanta area then.

We only want to go to areas where there is no AIT and it may be too far to

travel to do a 2x a day program. And we specialize in working with parents who

cannot afford regular rates and the travel needed to go to AIT centers.

I know you have seen some great results with autism also. It is very gratifying

to be able to see these results and know you were able to help someone that

much. We really miss that about Miracle Mountain. We have treated a lot of

children from Georgia.

>

> K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for

> almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home

> listening opportunities.

>

> Please feel free to contact us at

>

> klsolutions@... or call

>

> Kiernan, AIT Practitioner

>

> Loff, Consultant

>

March 31, 2011

How much do you charge ?

Thanks,

Christne R.

Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities.

Please feel free to contact us at

klsolutions@... or call

Kiernan, AIT Practitioner

Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

In-home program is $650. In office $1200. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:16:21 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) How much do you charge ? Thanks,Christne R. Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities. Please feel free to contact us atklsolutions@... or call Kiernan, AIT Practitioner Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

I can vouch for !! , is there a certain type of AIT you used at MM?? My son was helped very much by it and I wanted to repeat but wanted the exact system you have bc it was so successful for him. I believe he's more focused and better behaved due to the AIT. I wish u guys were still there, we were just getting started. We are going to put our application in for stem cells in DR too so hoping for the best. I wish you all the luck in the world with your and Judy's!!

Sincerely,

R

Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

That's good to know, . We will probably not come to the Atlanta area then. We only want to go to areas where there is no AIT and it may be too far to travel to do a 2x a day program. And we specialize in working with parents who cannot afford regular rates and the travel needed to go to AIT centers. I know you have seen some great results with autism also. It is very gratifying to be able to see these results and know you were able to help someone that much. We really miss that about Miracle Mountain. We have treated a lot of children from Georgia. >> K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for> almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home> listening opportunities. > > Please feel free to contact us at> > klsolutions@... or call > > > > Kiernan, AIT Practitioner> > Loff, Consultant>

March 31, 2011

We absolutely support sound stimulation therapy. K&L Solutions offers The Berard Method of AIT. We,too, have seen amazing results with our clients. We have been in practice since 1993 when was trained by Dr. Guy Berard. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:21:35 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) I can vouch for !! , is there a certain type of AIT you used at MM?? My son was helped very much by it and I wanted to repeat but wanted the exact system you have bc it was so successful for him. I believe he's more focused and better behaved due to the AIT. I wish u guys were still there, we were just getting started. We are going to put our application in for stem cells in DR too so hoping for the best. I wish you all the luck in the world with your and Judy's!!Sincerely, R Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) That's good to know, . We will probably not come to the Atlanta area then. We only want to go to areas where there is no AIT and it may be too far to travel to do a 2x a day program. And we specialize in working with parents who cannot afford regular rates and the travel needed to go to AIT centers. I know you have seen some great results with autism also. It is very gratifying to be able to see these results and know you were able to help someone that much. We really miss that about Miracle Mountain. We have treated a lot of children from Georgia. >> K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for> almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home> listening opportunities. > > Please feel free to contact us at> > klsolutions@... or call > > > > Kiernan, AIT Practitioner> > Loff, Consultant>

March 31, 2011

Is it tomatis? Is home program on our own with discs?Sent from my iPhone

In-home program is $650. In office $1200. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: autism-georgia

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:16:21 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia

Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

How much do you charge ?

Thanks,

Christne R.

Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities.

Please feel free to contact us at

klsolutions@... or call

Kiernan, AIT Practitioner

Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

No. We have a specialized machine to do the listening program. We allow families to take the equipment home and they implement the sessions. Thus, the reduction in cost. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:32:37 -0400To: autism-georgia <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) Is it tomatis? Is home program on our own with discs?Sent from my iPhone In-home program is $650. In office $1200. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:16:21 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) How much do you charge ? Thanks,Christne R. Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities. Please feel free to contact us atklsolutions@... or call Kiernan, AIT Practitioner Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

Do u have number I can call?Sent from my iPhone

No. We have a specialized machine to do the listening program. We allow families to take the equipment home and they implement the sessions. Thus, the reduction in cost. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: autism-georgia

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:32:37 -0400To: autism-georgia <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia

Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

Is it tomatis? Is home program on our own with discs?Sent from my iPhone

In-home program is $650. In office $1200. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: autism-georgia

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:16:21 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia

Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

How much do you charge ?

Thanks,

Christne R.

Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy)

K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities.

Please feel free to contact us at

klsolutions@... or call

Kiernan, AIT Practitioner

Loff, Consultant

March 31, 2011

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:02:01 -0400To: autism-georgia <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) Do u have number I can call?Sent from my iPhone No. We have a specialized machine to do the listening program. We allow families to take the equipment home and they implement the sessions. Thus, the reduction in cost. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:32:37 -0400To: autism-georgia <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) Is it tomatis? Is home program on our own with discs?Sent from my iPhone In-home program is $650. In office $1200. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:16:21 -0400To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) How much do you charge ? Thanks,Christne R. Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home listening opportunities. Please feel free to contact us atklsolutions@... or call Kiernan, AIT Practitioner Loff, Consultant

April 4, 2011

Is AIT covered by Medicaid?

Thx,

Cammy

Thx for all the great info!

Cammy

http://stores.ebay.com/Cammys-Clothing-Treasures

>

> K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for

> almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home

> listening opportunities.

>

> Please feel free to contact us at

>

> klsolutions@... or call

>

> Kiernan, AIT Practitioner

>

> Loff, Consultant

>

April 4, 2011

It is not covered by Medicaid Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:46:42 -0000To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) Is AIT covered by Medicaid?Thx,CammyThx for all the great info!Cammyhttp://stores.ebay.com/Cammys-Clothing-Treasures>> K & L Solutions offers AIT in Georgia. We have been in the Atlanta area for> almost 8 years now. We offer both clinical listening sessions and home> listening opportunities. > > Please feel free to contact us at> > klsolutions@... or call > > > > Kiernan, AIT Practitioner> > Loff, Consultant>

April 5, 2011

Hi Cammy,

Maybe if we come to GA for AIT, I can help you out.

H.

May 4, 2011

Please return the $2500 to my aunt - Charlotte Odom - that was paid for

treatment for Clay Odom.

It's not fair to close and KEEP money that was paid for treatment.

You have her address and info; I can send it to you if you no longer have it.

I never EVER thought you would do that.

I have emailed you privately but you do not respond & this is important to

others even if it is not important to YOU!

Sooner is BETTER!

Cammy

>

> Hi, I hope the moderator doesn't consider this spam or solicitation

> because i don't mean it to be.

> AIT has become very expensive. I am the founder of MIracle Mountain in

> NC but we have retired and closed the center. We have done AIT for 10

> years, in fact, we required it with HBOT because of its effectiveness.

> I have seen some amazing results with it for autism. My wife, Judy,

> and I have a motor home we plan on spending a lot of time in and I still

> have my AIT equipment. AIT normally runs from $1400 to $1800 and it

> is difficult for many parents to afford it. In addition it is a 10 day

> program and most of the time, it is not convenient or close enough

> without staying away from home which adds more expense. At MIracle

> Mountain we provided therapies for HBOT and AIT almost at cost for over

> 22,000 treatments. I have a grandson with Cerebral Palsy which is the

> reason we did all this.

>

> We are now considering traveling to different areas for 2 weeks at a

> time and doing AIT for kids who normally cannot afford it or where there

> is none available and doing AIT at low cost. We only want to cover our

> expenses and would probably need at least 3 clients at a time to reduce

> the costs for everyone. We are considering charging $800 each with 2

> people, and $600 each with 3 or more people. We have not made this

> decision and when I saw your post I thought it would be a good time to

> get some opinions and Georgia is within easy reach. We have the

> special equipment needed already and we especially miss working with

> kids. We have treated children from 19 countries and if we do this, it

> will cover our expenses and give us an opportunity to see the country

> which is why we bought our motor home.

>

> Let me know if this is of interest and it would be up to the clients to

> find other parents looking for AIT. It requires 2 sessions per day and

> we could do them to fit peoples schedules. We were set up and worked

> with belle Stahley who is the Mother of an autistic child and she

> introduced Dr. Barard and AIT into the USA.

>

> This is not a solicitation, so don't blast me for trying to drum up

> business. This is something we love and we may even do some free

> treatments if we can cover our expenses. Not looking for profit. I

> am 67 years old and there are parents on this list who have been to

> Miracle Mountain with their kids and I think they will vouch for us.

> I am just thinking out loud and would like some feedback on whether this

> would be helpful. It is not something we have to do and I have a buyer

> for my AIT equipment but I thought this might be an opportunity to help

> a lot of children without hard work. You can email me privately if you

> like.

>

> Hartsoe

> rhartsoe@ skybest.com

>

May 4, 2011

This post is not portraying AIT in a good light. K&L Solutions offer AIT in Georgia. We work with families to make it happen. Every family has their story, and we honor that. I apologize to you for not receiving a refund for services you did not receive. However, AIT is very valuable for many children. I hope that and his wife are responsible and pay your aunt the refund. If you have further needs,please contact K&L Solutions- www.klsolutions.org. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-georgia Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 01:38:03 -0000To: <autism-georgia >ReplyTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: AIT (Auditory Integration Therapy) Please return the $2500 to my aunt - Charlotte Odom - that was paid for treatment for Clay Odom.It's not fair to close and KEEP money that was paid for treatment.You have her address and info; I can send it to you if you no longer have it.I never EVER thought you would do that.I have emailed you privately but you do not respond & this is important to others even if it is not important to YOU!Sooner is BETTER!Cammy>> Hi, I hope the moderator doesn't consider this spam or solicitation > because i don't mean it to be.> AIT has become very expensive. I am the founder of MIracle Mountain in > NC but we have retired and closed the center. We have done AIT for 10 > years, in fact, we required it with HBOT because of its effectiveness. > I have seen some amazing results with it for autism. My wife, Judy, > and I have a motor home we plan on spending a lot of time in and I still > have my AIT equipment. AIT normally runs from $1400 to $1800 and it > is difficult for many parents to afford it. In addition it is a 10 day > program and most of the time, it is not convenient or close enough > without staying away from home which adds more expense. At MIracle > Mountain we provided therapies for HBOT and AIT almost at cost for over > 22,000 treatments. I have a grandson with Cerebral Palsy which is the > reason we did all this.> > We are now considering traveling to different areas for 2 weeks at a > time and doing AIT for kids who normally cannot afford it or where there > is none available and doing AIT at low cost. We only want to cover our > expenses and would probably need at least 3 clients at a time to reduce > the costs for everyone. We are considering charging $800 each with 2 > people, and $600 each with 3 or more people. We have not made this > decision and when I saw your post I thought it would be a good time to > get some opinions and Georgia is within easy reach. We have the > special equipment needed already and we especially miss working with > kids. We have treated children from 19 countries and if we do this, it > will cover our expenses and give us an opportunity to see the country > which is why we bought our motor home.> > Let me know if this is of interest and it would be up to the clients to > find other parents looking for AIT. It requires 2 sessions per day and > we could do them to fit peoples schedules. We were set up and worked > with belle Stahley who is the Mother of an autistic child and she > introduced Dr. Barard and AIT into the USA.> > This is not a solicitation, so don't blast me for trying to drum up > business. This is something we love and we may even do some free > treatments if we can cover our expenses. Not looking for profit. I > am 67 years old and there are parents on this list who have been to > Miracle Mountain with their kids and I think they will vouch for us. > I am just thinking out loud and would like some feedback on whether this > would be helpful. It is not something we have to do and I have a buyer > for my AIT equipment but I thought this might be an opportunity to help > a lot of children without hard work. You can email me privately if you > like.> > Hartsoe> rhartsoe@ skybest.com>

May 5, 2011

You have no idea what the situation is and it does not involve AIT. You

are taking advantage of this post to try to lean business in your

direction. Cammy is using this forum to try embarass us into doing

something. Judy has been in contact with her aunt about this situation

and Mrs. Odom understands the situation. This is something that

happened almost 3 years ago and the Odoms had HBOT available to them

which is what this payment was for. It has always been available and

Ms. Odom understood that. They chose to go elsewhere for HBOT after

paying in advance at MM.

Cammy also failed to tell you about the special discounts and free

treatments she received by us.

When people choose these forums to try to embarass others, it is

unfortunate. But it happens. Cammy, you need to talk to your Aunt

about this. You only pushed the issue after you realized MM was no

longer available for you to take advantage of.

There will be no refund and we proudly stand by everything we have done

in the past 11 years. In addition, Judy and I have never recieved a

paycheck for our services.

Hartsoe

May 5, 2011

All I want is for YOU to return the money to my aunt; this is not about Me.

My aunt wouldn't say BOO to a mouse; she cried when she got off the phone. -

" This is something that happened almost 3 years ago and the Odoms had HBOT

available to them which is what this payment was for. It has always been

available and Ms. Odom understood that. They chose to go elsewhere for HBOT

after paying in advance at MM. " - So What? You To Keep Their Money?? That is

WRONG as hell! You do not have any right to that money and they are under

tremendous financial stess. You are taking advantage of her and YOU KNOW IT!

I'm sure the people in here want to know how you do business - in your own

words...

Cammy

>

> You have no idea what the situation is and it does not involve AIT. You

> are taking advantage of this post to try to lean business in your

> direction. Cammy is using this forum to try embarass us into doing

> something. Judy has been in contact with her aunt about this situation

> and Mrs. Odom understands the situation. This is something that

> happened almost 3 years ago and the Odoms had HBOT available to them

> which is what this payment was for. It has always been available and

> Ms. Odom understood that. They chose to go elsewhere for HBOT after

> paying in advance at MM.

> Cammy also failed to tell you about the special discounts and free

> treatments she received by us.

>

> When people choose these forums to try to embarass others, it is

> unfortunate. But it happens. Cammy, you need to talk to your Aunt

> about this. You only pushed the issue after you realized MM was no

> longer available for you to take advantage of.

>

> There will be no refund and we proudly stand by everything we have done

> in the past 11 years. In addition, Judy and I have never recieved a

> paycheck for our services.

>

> Hartsoe

>

May 6, 2011

Cammy,

Number 1........... the people on this list do not need to be involved

in this. In my experience, most people would rather you take it off

list. They do not have all the details and are probably not at all

interested.

Number 2........... We provided you with many treatments for your

daughter at no cost. Would you like a refund for those?

Number 3........... Judy called your aunt to explain to her that

Miracle Mountain had closed, mainly because it could not operate without

me taking money from my pocket to put into it. The rates we were

charging were too low to pay the overhead. When we retired, we had to

give it up because no one would take it over at the rates we were

charging and we refused to let the rates go up because of parents like

yourself who could not afford to go elsewhere. When your aunt

originally called, it was explained to her that she could still get the

treatments and that after a certain period of time, the funds were only

returnable through treatments. She had that auction for over 2 years

and did not take advantage of it. She only asked for a refund after we

closed the center.

Number 4........... The way I did business was to never turn away a

child because of parents inability to pay, including you. We provided

over 22,000 treatments in 10 years to children from 19 countries. I no

longer do business. I considered providing AIT at a very low cost in

areas of the USA from our motorhome, but frankly, I no longer have any

desire to deal with parents like yourself who are unappreciative. The

stress level is something I no longer need. You are going to different

lists trying to embarass me but that is ok. I stand firmly on my

convictions with the knowledge that if you are the only dissatisfied

client out of 22,000 treatments, I must have done something wrong.

Number 5...........I will not answer any more posts on this subject as

it is very off subject and disrespectful to this list. My reputation

with other parents on this list who have been to MM stands. I have

already received some emails from them thanking me for my past service

and I appreciate them respecting the list and me by not posting

directly. I will pray for you and your family. If any of you

feel I have wronged you, I do ask your forgiveness and I want you to

know I forgive you.

My apologies to the list for posting off topic.

Hartsoe

May 6, 2011

1. You don't respond to private e-mails regarding this matter.

2. If you're on here pushing your services, people should know that if you

decide to close business (due to your health problems) you will keep their money

and act like it's ok.

3. You DID NOT notify my aunt that Miracle Mountain was closing and you DID NOT

refund the money on her account. YOU kept it.

Have you honestly thought about what you have did regarding this and think it's

honest business??

What did you provide for $2500???

Cammy

>

> Cammy,

> Number 1........... the people on this list do not need to be involved

> in this. In my experience, most people would rather you take it off

> list. They do not have all the details and are probably not at all

> interested.

> Number 2........... We provided you with many treatments for your

> daughter at no cost. Would you like a refund for those?

> Number 3........... Judy called your aunt to explain to her that

> Miracle Mountain had closed, mainly because it could not operate without

> me taking money from my pocket to put into it. The rates we were

> charging were too low to pay the overhead. When we retired, we had to

> give it up because no one would take it over at the rates we were

> charging and we refused to let the rates go up because of parents like

> yourself who could not afford to go elsewhere. When your aunt

> originally called, it was explained to her that she could still get the

> treatments and that after a certain period of time, the funds were only

> returnable through treatments. She had that auction for over 2 years

> and did not take advantage of it. She only asked for a refund after we

> closed the center.

> Number 4........... The way I did business was to never turn away a

> child because of parents inability to pay, including you. We provided

> over 22,000 treatments in 10 years to children from 19 countries. I no

> longer do business. I considered providing AIT at a very low cost in

> areas of the USA from our motorhome, but frankly, I no longer have any

> desire to deal with parents like yourself who are unappreciative. The

> stress level is something I no longer need. You are going to different

> lists trying to embarass me but that is ok. I stand firmly on my

> convictions with the knowledge that if you are the only dissatisfied

> client out of 22,000 treatments, I must have done something wrong.

> Number 5...........I will not answer any more posts on this subject as

> it is very off subject and disrespectful to this list. My reputation

> with other parents on this list who have been to MM stands. I have

> already received some emails from them thanking me for my past service

> and I appreciate them respecting the list and me by not posting

> directly. I will pray for you and your family. If any of you

> feel I have wronged you, I do ask your forgiveness and I want you to

> know I forgive you.

>

> My apologies to the list for posting off topic.

>

> Hartsoe

>

May 6, 2011

If you had any shame you'd be ashamed of yourself.

My uncle is a quadraplegic & has no way to try and get the money back!

But YOU know that don't you???!!!