Re: Fw: Ellen Video Monolog

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Hi, Debbie...The link didn't work and it's hard to tell from the monologue clips which one contained Ellen Degenerate's negative comments. She's just one on many I boycott for a multitude of reasons. I think it's reasonable to expect if she's perverted in other views of life and morals, that she wouldn't get Real Food.

Sharon

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>

> For anyone who is interested.....Ellen's web site has the video of todays

> monolog. Go to the link :

> http://ellen.warnerbros.com/showdearellen// then click on

> " Watch Daily Monolog " in the left hand column.

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I mostly lurk on this list. My family and I drink raw milk exclusively,

and try to tell those we know about the difference between real milk

and " dead " milk. This list, for the most part, has been a good source

of information to help us share the benefits. But, these kinds of

comments are uncalled for, judgmental, and frankly have nothing to do

with the plight of real milk. As far as I know, this is not a

religious/moral list, nor is the plight of real milk a religious/moral

issue. To take one person's view of real milk, and attribute that to

his/her other views on life, and degrade them all is offensive and just

wrong. You may feel she is perverted in other views, but many do not,

and this list, imo, is not the place for such comments.

If I am out of line in calling out such comments, or this list

encompasses more beliefs that the plight of real milk, then I will

simply discontinue my membership to the list. But I would hope that the

focus can remain on real milk instead of bringing personal judgments of

other people into the mix.

>

I think it's reasonable to expect if

> she's perverted in other views of life and morals, that she wouldn't

get

> Real Food.

> Sharon

[Guest guest]

Now who's bashing? Sherry n NC Sharon son wrote: Hi, Debbie...The link didn't work and it's hard to tell from the monologue clips whichone contained Ellen Degenerate's negative comments. She's just one on manyI boycott for a multitude of reasons. I think it's reasonable to expect ifshe's perverted in other views of life and morals, that she wouldn't getReal Food.Sharon

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for speaking up. That post brought a lot of words to my mind

but I would not have said it as nicely as you did.

Belinda

> I mostly lurk on this list. My family and I drink raw milk exclusively,

> and try to tell those we know about the difference between real milk

> and " dead " milk. This list, for the most part, has been a good source

> of information to help us share the benefits. But, these kinds of

> comments are uncalled for, judgmental, and frankly have nothing to do

> with the plight of real milk. As far as I know, this is not a

> religious/moral list, nor is the plight of real milk a religious/moral

> issue. To take one person's view of real milk, and attribute that to

> his/her other views on life, and degrade them all is offensive and just

> wrong. You may feel she is perverted in other views, but many do not,

> and this list, imo, is not the place for such comments.

>

> If I am out of line in calling out such comments, or this list

> encompasses more beliefs that the plight of real milk, then I will

> simply discontinue my membership to the list. But I would hope that the

> focus can remain on real milk instead of bringing personal judgments of

> other people into the mix.

>

>

> >

> I think it's reasonable to expect if

> > she's perverted in other views of life and morals, that she wouldn't

> get

> > Real Food.

> > Sharon

>

[Guest guest]

Ok....daily back and forth comments, fights, and snits like this.....are one of the reasons people leave lists....and that helps Not One Person.

Hmmm.....bashing....or is it a matter of a list member's opinion. It is only bashing if you know what behavior she is thinking of, and believe that this behavior is commonly thought of as negative/illegal/bad/immoral.....or if something made you feel guilty. Psychologically speaking.....the only things that make us feel bad about behavior are: revulsion, guilt, shame, pain, bad memories, fear, or fear of physical danger...otherwise, it would be irrelevant. Being upset about something that does not change my life or effect the way I live, makes about as much sense as not liking my sister because she likes Chocolate Ice cream...and I like Vanilla. It honestly is that simple.....what someone else thinks about my personal choices that I do not force on anyone else...is irrelevant, and not worth giving one moment of my time.

From what I understand, Raw Dairy and completely organic nutrition is under attack, and anyone and everyone of us who practice this are considered nuts, and the goal of this is to get one step closer to banning our rights and making us consume the poison offered by big business in every store around the country.

Although I try not to "bash" people, and whether or not I agree with Ms. son about Ms. Degenerate's life choices aside....I respect that this is Ms. son's personal opinion, and I leave it at that. Ellen, however, is attacking our rights along with a multitude of others...she is NOT simply expressing an opinion, she is helping brainwash the public and make us look like illiterate and irresponsible people, criminals even....whereas I perceived Ms. son expressing her personal view about someone, and her lack of surprise... I do NOT think she was trying to get anyone to believe as she does....simply stating why she gives no credence to this woman, and holds no confidence in what she may say or do. Right or wrong, we all have the right to our own opinion about things, even if that opinion is not popular or just. We do not have the right to tell people how they should think or feel, as we do not own that person. If I do not agree with something, I do not even dignify it with a response.

Am I not correct that this list was created for us to share helpful information and resources as well as keep up to date on information that is pertinent to keeping the availability to produce and provide quality Raw Milk? We have enough people to fight....let's not let our small differences bother each other.... We have some common goals here, and I believe we should focus on that.

If I were to focus on all the little things that people say and do that get under my skin, or go contrary to love and understanding....I would never get anything done. I know that Ms. son does not need me to defend her, and I do not know her.....but.....I for one, am tired of the arguments and ankle biting going on...on all of the lists. Nor do you or anyone else need anyone else to support your feelings or thoughts. When something bothers us...let's be ducks and let it roll off of our backs. I am more than sure we all have more important things in our lives that need our attention and energy.

Just my 2 worthless cents.

Thanks,

C.

Woodstock, GA

Re: Fw: Ellen Video Monolog

Now who's bashing?

Sherry

n NC

Sharon son wrote:

Hi, Debbie...The link didn't work and it's hard to tell from the monologue clips whichone contained Ellen Degenerate's negative comments. She's just one on manyI boycott for a multitude of reasons. I think it's reasonable to expect ifshe's perverted in other views of life and morals, that she wouldn't getReal Food.Sharon

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[Guest guest]

DITTO, DITTO and DITTO.

The " perverted morals " comment (and subsequent bizarre

attempt to link that warped theory to views on

nutrition) was one of the MOST ludicrous and

inappropriate things I've read - EVER.

> If I am out of line in calling out such comments, or

> this list

> encompasses more beliefs that the plight of real

> milk, then I will

> simply discontinue my membership to the list. But I

> would hope that the

> focus can remain on real milk instead of bringing

> personal judgments of

> other people into the mix.

>

>

> >

> I think it's reasonable to expect if

> > she's perverted in other views of life and morals,

> that she wouldn't

> get

> > Real Food.

> > Sharon

>

>

>

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Actually, here's the deal. This was sent to multiple lists. I'm not PC. I have no interest in being PC. I find Degenerate's political comments to be offensive as I do her lifestyle. So what. Unfortunately, I replied to this on another list and it was, without my knowledge, also sent to this list.

I would never, ever have sent this message to this list because so many of you are interested in displaying how PC and all it does it bring all the little demons out of their hiding places to swirl around waiting to pick off and devour the flesh of others.

Nasty little hypocrites.Sharon

DITTO, DITTO and DITTO.

The " perverted morals " comment (and subsequent bizarre

attempt to link that warped theory to views on

nutrition) was one of the MOST ludicrous and

inappropriate things I've read - EVER.

> If I am out of line in calling out such comments, or

> this list

> encompasses more beliefs that the plight of real

> milk, then I will

> simply discontinue my membership to the list. But I

> would hope that the

> focus can remain on real milk instead of bringing

> personal judgments of

> other people into the mix.

>

>

> >

> I think it's reasonable to expect if

> > she's perverted in other views of life and morals,

> that she wouldn't

> get

> > Real Food.

> > Sharon

>

>

>

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My response has not a darn thing to do with being

" PC " . It's far beyond that. Human, humane, loving

and respectful of the divinity within us all would be

more like it.

All the best,

> I would never, ever have sent this message to this

> list because so many of

> you are interested in displaying how PC and all it

> does it bring all the

> little demons out of their hiding places to swirl

> around waiting to pick off

> and devour the flesh of others.

>

> Nasty little hypocrites.

>

> Sharon

>

>

> >

> > DITTO, DITTO and DITTO.

> >

> > The " perverted morals " comment (and subsequent

> bizarre

> > attempt to link that warped theory to views on

> > nutrition) was one of the MOST ludicrous and

> > inappropriate things I've read - EVER.

> >

> >

> >

> > > If I am out of line in calling out such

> comments, or

> > > this list

> > > encompasses more beliefs that the plight of real

> > > milk, then I will

> > > simply discontinue my membership to the list.

> But I

> > > would hope that the

> > > focus can remain on real milk instead of

> bringing

> > > personal judgments of

> > > other people into the mix.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > I think it's reasonable to expect if

> > > > she's perverted in other views of life and

> morals,

> > > that she wouldn't

> > > get

> > > > Real Food.

> > > > Sharon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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> cattle, and you will

> have plenty to eat.

>

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[Guest guest]

Since you want to give this a religious twist, here's my version: Isaiah 5:20

Woe

to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light,

and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!I am not called to be concerned about the viewpoint of someone who has repeatedly, outspokenly expressed perverted views of life, dignity, respect, honor, or decent morals. Go ahead and call evil good. And God help this country if we all continue in that vein, fearing the wrath of speaking out against those who want to destroy American on so many fronts.

Sharon

My response has not a darn thing to do with being

" PC " . It's far beyond that. Human, humane, loving

and respectful of the divinity within us all would be

more like it.

All the best,

[Guest guest]

*Gag* How predictable. Can we just get back to goats?

Amelia, MT-- Did you ever wonder why those who are so wrong are so loud?

[Guest guest]

This discussion has become off-topic, inflmmatory and personal.

Please end it now.

Thank you,

D,

moderator

>

> Since you want to give this a religious twist, here's my version:

> *

> Isaiah 5:20*Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness

> for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for

> bitter!I am not called to be concerned about the viewpoint of someone who

> has repeatedly, outspokenly expressed perverted views of life, dignity,

> respect, honor, or decent morals. Go ahead and call evil good. And God

> help this country if we all continue in that vein, fearing the wrath of

> speaking out against those who want to destroy American on so many fronts.

>

> Sharon