Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 i think they must.. they seem so happy and engaged when given the chance to follow those instincts. no wonder they get more and more violent and depressed when confronted with a " school " life that's utterly devoid of anything resembling humanity. they seem to deeply understand that something is terribly wrong, and learn young that their parents and teachers aren't to be trusted. it's a damn shame. > > This just brought to mind - my daughter LOVES to pick and > eat edible weeds, wild strawberries, etc. The taste doesn't > seem to matter. Do kids just have some instinct that this is > the right way? > Aven > > > or a world where your cultural conditioning is actually useful and > > important! to learn how to catch, grow, prepare and eat as a child > > intimately connected with your world, rather than, well, this... > > > > talk about life managing to exist in harsh and unforgiving > > environments... what desert could be worse than anytown USA? at least > > in a desert you know damn well where you stand! > > > > ok, i'm done. > > eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 >....I think that the next ten years is going to be very >interesting watching what everybody's health is like after they keep up these >dietary habits. Many of my friends and acquaintances are getting older( >40s-50s...) and they haven't changed their diet at all....still downing tons of soda, >fried foods, cakes and cookies, and the general junk that most americans >eat.... As I was travelling to the other side of the state to do my " cow hunt " I talked to a number of folks. Now mind you, on THIS side of Washington we have a lot of liberal-freakish-pierced-I'll-try-anything types, but the folks on the other side are a lot more down to earth types. Anyway, everyone I talked to was into grass-fed beef and liked my ideas on feeding cow guts to chickens etc, which is a big change from the usual stuff I've heard in the farming community. In the past it was all " use this nice packaged food and the chickens will grow fast " . One lady grew up on a ranch, on grass-fed beef. She happens to be allergic to corn, and says she doesn't feel good at all on commercial beef. One of the ranchers in the area is starting to specialize in PURELY grass fed beef, where the calves never get any grain at all. The farmer I got my cow from said he's seeing a lot more folks asking for pure grass fed too. Anyway, there IS a groundswell of change happening, you don't hear about it much in the news or on TV. Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 At 01:06 PM 10/13/04 -0400, you wrote: >well now wait a sec, heidi. *i'm* >liberal-freakish-pierced-i'll-try-anything - that's how i found NT! > >and my very straight-laced looking butcher nearly fell off his chair when i >told him i wanted all those tongues, livers, etc that he threw away to feed >to my cat. i persisted, and he gave them to me, laughing the whole time. >the next week i went in and there were little 1-lb containers in the >freezer, labeled and everything. " cat food " . i commented and he said that >he'd taken it home to his cat to see if i was insane, and it turned out his >cat liked it! (duh!) so yay for him! course, more yay for him if he'd >continue not to charge me for it, given it was my idea! > >-katja But but but but ... the REAL question is ... does your cat look suspiciously like you? MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Trader Joe's is carrying grass-fed beef: ground beef, chuck steak, rib-eyes, etc. Saw it a few days ago. Is it new or have they had it a while. B. On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:12:21 -0700, Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote: > > > >....I think that the next ten years is going to be very > >interesting watching what everybody's health is like after they keep up these > >dietary habits. Many of my friends and acquaintances are getting older( > >40s-50s...) and they haven't changed their diet at all....still downing tons of soda, > >fried foods, cakes and cookies, and the general junk that most americans > >eat.... > > As I was travelling to the other side of the state to do my " cow hunt " > I talked to a number of folks. Now mind you, on THIS side of Washington > we have a lot of liberal-freakish-pierced-I'll-try-anything types, but the > folks on the other side are a lot more down to earth types. Anyway, > everyone I talked to was into grass-fed beef and liked my ideas on > feeding cow guts to chickens etc, which is a big change from the usual > stuff I've heard in the farming community. In the past it was all " use this > nice packaged food and the chickens will grow fast " . > > One lady grew up on a ranch, on grass-fed beef. She happens to be > allergic to corn, and says she doesn't feel good at all on commercial > beef. One of the ranchers in the area is starting to specialize in > PURELY grass fed beef, where the calves never get any grain at all. > The farmer I got my cow from said he's seeing a lot more folks asking > for pure grass fed too. Anyway, there IS a groundswell of change > happening, you don't hear about it much in the news or on TV. > > Heidi Jean > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 > and my very straight-laced looking butcher nearly fell off his chair when i > told him i wanted all those tongues, livers, etc that he threw away to feed > to my cat. i persisted, and he gave them to me, laughing the whole time. > the next week i went in and there were little 1-lb containers in the > freezer, labeled and everything. " cat food " . i commented and he said that > he'd taken it home to his cat to see if i was insane, and it turned out his > cat liked it! (duh!) so yay for him! course, more yay for him if he'd > continue not to charge me for it, given it was my idea! > > -katja Hmmmmm....can we conclude that claiming to feed these items our pets is a good way to " reach " not only conventional butchers but also PETA folks? Will they allow even carnivorous animals to have their natural diet, even though it might mean the demise of some other species?! Or do they try to keep all animals from eating all other animals, forcing all animals to become consumers of grass and/or soy? ;-P ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Better not get me started on school ... My daughter will spend hours in the woods with her uncle learning about edible wild plants - then the other kids come home from school with some insipid homework, and they can't even go out to play until it's done. Gack! Aven > > i think they must.. they seem so happy and engaged when given the > chance to follow those instincts. no wonder they get more and more > violent and depressed when confronted with a " school " life that's > utterly devoid of anything resembling humanity. they seem to deeply > understand that something is terribly wrong, and learn young that > their parents and teachers aren't to be trusted. it's a damn shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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