Pasty butt on babies.........

[Guest guest]

Yesterday someone mentioned about making sure their butts are clean. Today I had to clean their butts every time I went out there. It's very sticky and sticking to them both. I literally have to PULL it off.

I have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do you think it would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their butts to help with the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to prevent them from getting pasty butt and it's very helpful. How long will it stick to them like that?

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[Guest guest]

Don't know about the oil, never thought about doing anything but

wiping and telling their mother she was a lazy goat momma. Most moms

will keep the kids clean but some don't get the hang of it right off

or will clean up one and leave the other to you.

Won't be long before the sticky stuff will stop.

Belinda

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> Yesterday someone mentioned about making sure their butts are clean.

Today I had to clean their butts every time I went out there. It's

very sticky and sticking to them both. I literally have to PULL it off.

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> I have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do you think

it would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their butts to

help with the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to prevent them

from getting pasty butt and it's very helpful. How long will it stick

to them like that?

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> ~ a ~

> www.farmgirlhaven.com

> www.homesteadblogger.com/MyFarmgirlHaven/

> http://my.tupperware.com/ROBERTA67

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[Guest guest]

I was the one who told you to check their butts. It usually is

only for about the first 3 to 7 days. Once the colostrum has left

their system you don't have anymore problems. Try the oil, but

probably the doe will lick it all off. I have tried vaseline and it

helps, but still have to check them.

Keep dipping navel every 12 hours until it's dried up. I try to

keep the 7% strong iodine on just the navel and not get it all over

them and me. A deep, narrow container works best- the sample

containers we use for DHIR are great as they have a one piece design

with snap on lid attached.

Most of these things you won't ever see, but if you stay with

raising livestock long enough, you will see some of these things

happening.

It's good they are pooping ok. Sometimes you can get a birth

defect where the anus is absent or their is a stricture in the

intestines so that feces can't pass. It is good to catch this as

soon as you can so the kid can be put down and not suffer.

You also need to keep close check on their eyes as the kids can

be born appearing normal but then have an eyelid flip inward and

cause irritation. If the kid's eyes are watering, this is most

likely what's happened. It is called 'etropian' but almost always it

is not true etropian where they need surgery to corret. If you

notice this happening carefully flip eyelid back to normal (it's

rolled under and the eyelash is against eye itself) and then pinch

the eyelid itself REALLY hard a couple of times so it puffs up. Once

the kids gain some weight and the fat around the eyes fills in, it

corrects itself.

Joint problems are usually that the joint is drawn- kid walks on

the front of it's pasterns. This is often due to being crowded in

uterus and seen most often with triplets and larger litter. You need

to do physical therapy and stretch the affected joints. Sometimes

splints are needed to stablize for a couple of days. The more the

kid walks on firm ground the better off it is.

The other problem is the joints are too loose and it's caused

from hormones leaking into kid's bloodstream that prepare doe for

labor and delivery. You need to support kid so that it can stand to

nurse, getting it's fill every four hours. Usually within first 72

hours the joints tighten up to normal once the hormone has been

cleared from the kid's system by it's liver/kidneys.

I also check close for things like mouth and jaw deformities,

joint problems, umbilical hernia, etc...... Like I said, these are

very rare, but it's awful to have a baby suffer because you failed to

detect it at birth.

Has anyone warned you about water buckets? Kids are curious and

will jump into and onto things. If they jump into a bucket they can

drown or get stuck. I had a 60 pound wether jump between the boards

of the barn- the outside wall and the inside boxing...... and within

a minute he died because he got his head turned around trying to get

out. Broke my heart when I found him.

Donna

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> Yesterday someone mentioned about making sure their butts are

clean. Today I had to clean their butts every time I went out there.

It's very sticky and sticking to them both. I literally have to PULL

it off.

>

> I have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do you

think it would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their

butts to help with the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to

prevent them from getting pasty butt and it's very helpful. How long

will it stick to them like that?

>

>

> ~ a ~

> www.farmgirlhaven.com

> www.homesteadblogger.com/MyFarmgirlHaven/

> http://my.tupperware.com/ROBERTA67

>

[Guest guest]

Pam cooking spray works great .

Kari

.....have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do you think it would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their butts to help with the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to prevent them from getting pasty butt and it's very helpful. How long will it stick to them like that?

Cedar Hills Farm Boers

Christie's Dairy Goats

Seymour, Mo

http://karitrampas.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

I haven't ever had any kids with this problem, but I do like to use Pam

spray on the mama's back udder just before she kids to keep her bloody

discharge from sticking to her udder.

You are milking the mama completely out once a day, right? You want to

be doing that right away, for a few reasons - if she is super productive, you

want to have that excess for humans and to get her into the routine, and to

keep an eye on how she is doing.

Have FUN!!

Debbie @ Rainhaven

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> Pam cooking spray works great .

> Kari

>

>

> .....have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do you think it

> would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their butts to help with

> the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to prevent them from getting pasty

> butt and it's very helpful. How long will it stick to them like that?

>

>

> Cedar Hills Farm Boers

> Christie's Dairy Goats

> Seymour, Mo

> http://karitrampas.tripod.com

>

[Guest guest]

When I first get to the barn, I go through and wake the kids up

and get them up so they can nurse momma. Early on the kids are going

to pretty much 'hunker down and hide' that first two weeks. Provide

them with something like a dogloo to crawl into and hide. They will

that first two weeks be on a schedule of eating for a few minutes,

playing about fifteen to twenty minutes, then sleeping about three

hours to start all over again.

Then, I start doing chores and by the time I get momma on the

milkstand to milk out, the kids have been able to get what they

wanted. I milk out twice a day pretty much from the second day after

freshening. When I get momma, I also check the kid's butt and ensure

their tummies are full, too.

Later on, when your kids get old enough to seperate for a few

hours, if you want, be careful. Usually about a month old, they are

ok to seperate. You will find that a doe who has kids on her and is

being milked out twice a day will make a world more milk than a doe

who is only being milked out twice a day. This means your doe with

kids can become overbagged in about 6 hours!!! So, when you start

bagging her up, check her in about four hours, then about every two

hours after that. I have found that early in lactation, my does are

getting pretty tight by the time they have eight hours of milk.

Donna

Safehaven Nubians

Dandridge, TN

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> > Pam cooking spray works great .

> > Kari

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> >

> > .....have been cleaning their behinds but I was wondering, do

you think it

> > would help if I put some Almond Oil or Olive Oil on their butts

to help with

> > the sticking? I do that for baby chicks to prevent them from

getting pasty

> > butt and it's very helpful. How long will it stick to them like

that?

> >

> >

> > Cedar Hills Farm Boers

> > Christie's Dairy Goats

> > Seymour, Mo

> > http://karitrampas.tripod.com

> >

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