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Hi Chelle,

Welcome to the group, and from coming out from " lurker " mode:-)

Martie

> Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself. I have been lurking here for

a

> while, and I read all the messages each day, but only now have a

had a

> chance to type.

>

> My name is Chelle, I am 26 and I live in Melbourne, Australia. I

have been

> doing BFL on and off since 1999, more off than on, but my husband

and I

> have now found a gym that opens at 5.00am, so we shouldn't be

falling off

> the wagon again. We signed up for 20 months. My sister-in-law is

was in the

> top 2000 for 2000, and she now competes in Body building contests.

While I

> don't want to compete I would love a body likes hers.

>

> Chelle

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In a message dated 7/26/02 11:55:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

thanksforthisday@... writes:

> . I

> didn't get mad this time at all. That's new. I didn't obsess about

> what she was trying to do. That's new.

>

Glad you are back and glad you have these " new " things in your favor!

Hugs,

Debbie

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Kathleen,

Kathleen,

Tell me if you get any roses anytime soon. I just finished my novena

to St.Therese for you yesterday and that's the first time I've ever

done a novena. I admit I also prayed for myself and my nada too. But

I think it's really cool how you're experiencing this 'new' flavor of

emotional reactions. It only reaffirms my intial belief that prayer

does work. I think you had a couple of other people on here doing the

novena for you to except to our lady of Gaudalupe? That's what

prompted me to pray a novena by their suggestions. Not sure, but when

a bunch of people ban together and pray for a person, it's almost like

one can see this invisible halo going over the person. I know I've

felt it at times, like I can feel when someone's praying really

strongly for me and at other times I might see a picture or hear a

song or something that triggers me about a friend or loved one and I

think " I need to pray for them right now. " Later on I always am

amazed to hear how accurate it was with how they were in a pickle or

something and just needed that little extra boost. Happened for me a

few times too the other way with friends praying for me. This prayer

thing is always so amazing to me.

peace be with you and glad you're back and on top of your game,

*hugs*

Kere

> Hi everyone......

>

> I'm back...but now double bound bec. I've been away from the list

> for a few days. I'm just going to jump back in and try to go back

> and read the posts as I can.

>

> Hope everyone is doing reasonably OK or venting.

>

> Nada is back trying to make email contact with my daughter. I

> didn't get mad this time at all. That's new. I didn't obsess about

> what she was trying to do. That's new.

>

>

> kathleen

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thanks Kere....that is a very generous thing to do for someone

you know on a list. :) I REALLY appreciate it. I really do and I will

be on the lookout for roses. :)

I have felt a " lift " these days and the turnaround has been in a

deepening of my relationship with my husband. It's been

wonderful.

:)

Kathleen

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Kathleen,

I think it's like that cheese commercial except I'd say " It's the pwer

of prayer " instead of the 'power of cheese'-lol.

I got inspired by the other fellow KOs here to do the novena and I

think everyone here is just wonderful, including you :)

I did feel really bad for what you've been going through lately and it

did seem like a lot was building up on your end. Sometimes no matter

how much courage we can muster for that day, nothing is as strong as

the hand of God in our lives. I know in many ways I'd never have made

it this far in my life if it were not for all the prayers said for me

growing up. I know I got more than my fair share just because my dad

died when I was 8, but I seriously think more and more where I would

be today if it weren't for the power of other very generous souls

praying on my behalf. And so it's an easy thing on my part to say

those prayers for someone else who really needs them just because my

life for the most part is pretty prayerful anyway. I just never did

the novena before and that was kind of neat. It's a bit shorter than

the rosary and I am not so regimented with that one as it's one thing

I can see that would become slightly OCD for me after a while- lol.

Actually I go in spells, but I really liked the novena. Had my little

calendar marked in my kitchen just to keep up with the date I started

and such-lol. My hubby was like, 'what's these little 't's in circles

this past week?'-lol.

*hugs*

Kere

> thanks Kere....that is a very generous thing to do for someone

> you know on a list. :) I REALLY appreciate it. I really do and I

will

> be on the lookout for roses. :)

>

> I have felt a " lift " these days and the turnaround has been in a

> deepening of my relationship with my husband. It's been

> wonderful.

>

> :)

>

> Kathleen

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Welcome to Mod. I'm glad you're here as this place is very safe to

express your stories of life as a KO, or so that's been my experience.

I hope you find this place safe and can get some insight into your

life's story through the sharing of other people's stories too. This

place has surpassed years of therapy on helping me help myself to

heal. And yes, teens are welcome too as far as I know of. I know

we've got a couple around here- Rose and another young lady who are of

absolute value to our website. So please do invite your kids along

too for the journey out of OZ. Peace to you.

:)

Kere

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wrote:

<<

Some of you may know me as a moderator of the WTO family of lists. Edith

knows me <G>.

>>

Hi .

<<

.... WTO main helped me see my X's pull on me, My healing since she left

was helped by validating what I lived with in that marriage. I now have

had time to look at myself and ponder why and how I got into that

situation with her. GUESS WHAT??? I was taught flawed mechanisms for

coping and boundary enforcement, from " You guessed it " (new term for me

Nada and Fada) and yes I do call my still living mom " Mom " , but hate

calling Him " Dad " , (he's deceased). Both are Alcoholic, and I haven't

even tried to label any other DSM on them. I grew up one of six kids,

suburbia home, self drug abused, and quite lonely. Married for 14 to my

three kid's B-Mom who is MPD as well as a few other Dx's. (May I invite

my Teens here? Edith) (I don't hide who and what I am or learning,from

them, what they see me write I have prob already talked with them about)

>>

Everyone gets to have their own choices. If they're having problems from

having been parented by a BP, they're certainly welcome to join and post

just like the other KOs here.

<<

I am remarried for 2+ yrs to Deborah who is also from a Dysfunctional

family (Her Mom is Histrionic) We have what I had always dreamed of as a

marriage should be, Fair/Honest/freely loving/supportive. This has given

me the freedom and Non-hypervigalant energy, to really see myself. And I

must say I felt all of the emotions flood back into me,,the ones I have

been holding off while I lived a inappropriate boundaried life. I cannot

express how similar your stories are to mine, I could not help crying

with you and your pains, for they are mine also. Funny how I find ModO

now, now when I can deal with my FOO without fear. Guess God (for me)

deemed it so.

>>

I also was married to a BP. In resolving parent/spouse issues, I think

KOs have to deal with one problem at a time. My biggest problem was my

nada. Compared to her my hubby was BPD/NPD-lite. These Oasis lists were

a lifesaver for me.

Cheers,

- Edith

Its never too late to have a happy childhood.

-

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Kitty purr,

Sorry, I didn't get your name. You just wrote the story of my mom! Except

the part about staying in bed. She would get up, sit on the couch and puff cig

after cig, never moving her hand but a few inches from her face to get air.

Even though I do not have a firm diagnosis from putting her in a Gero-Psyc

Hospital for two weeks under evaluation last fall, other than dementia, I do

believe it is LBD. I just now got her doctor to eliminate totally the meds she

was

prescribed then. One was risperidone (Risperdal, brand name) worsen her

movement symptoms and she has never gotten rid of the auditory hallucinations.

She is now on Exelon. We have an appointment with a neurologist in June to

determine if this is the proper med for her. She has been more agitated so we

may

have to address that issue. Also going to question him about depression med

as she was on Trazodone but was taken off at the same time as the Risperdal,

in the hospital last week, as a result of a heart attack.

There are many here on different meds as this disease is a very sly and

cleaver monster. Just when you think you've got a hold on it, it changes. What

a

ride. Stick around, read what others have experienced. No two are alike.

What we do share is the chaos of " living a life with Lewy. " Welcome. Make

yourself at home. You can get MAIL in your own mail box, or go to

LBDCaregiver's

EGROUP, and read or respond at our place. The most recent MESSAGES will be on

the HOME PAGE wall. If you want to see them all, check out the LIST (on the

closet door) on the left side of our HOME PAGE wall. Click on MESSAGES to see

them all and then, once there, you can really EXPAND your mind by clicking on

the EXPAND MESSAGE at top, left of message list. Now you can just scroll

through them all with ease. Browse the attic for stored messages with our

SEARCH

engine by topic, name, or ? Or put in a # of a certain post and go right to

it. Type in a member email address for more on their experiences. Search the

closets for LINKS to helpful websites, and the office for FILES on an

information packet you can print out, recently presented at the Caring Counts!

Conference in Sacramento, CA. Also check out the FILE on free meds. Tell us

about

yourself in our Member Profile FILE. Sit down, take a load off, and take a peak

at our PHOTO album and then take an active part in community affairs in the

recently initiated POLL site. I again welcome you as one of our family. Our

HOME is your HOME.

Love & Prayers,

Betty

PS - Don't forget to write down important dates on our CALENDAR so we can

send you birthday hugs or share in the important days of your and your LO's

life!

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Betty,

Thank you for the welcome and helpful info. Believe me, I will stick

around. I have found useful info here already. And I've only been a

member for 1 day,lol. :-)

And BTW, my name is Beth.

> Kitty purr,

>

> Sorry, I didn't get your name. You just wrote the story of my

mom! Except

> the part about staying in bed. She would get up, sit on the couch

and puff cig

> after cig, never moving her hand but a few inches from her face to

get air.

> Even though I do not have a firm diagnosis from putting her in a

Gero-Psyc

> Hospital for two weeks under evaluation last fall, other than

dementia, I do

> believe it is LBD. I just now got her doctor to eliminate totally

the meds she was

> prescribed then. One was risperidone (Risperdal, brand name)

worsen her

> movement symptoms and she has never gotten rid of the auditory

hallucinations.

> She is now on Exelon. We have an appointment with a neurologist in

June to

> determine if this is the proper med for her. She has been more

agitated so we may

> have to address that issue. Also going to question him about

depression med

> as she was on Trazodone but was taken off at the same time as the

Risperdal,

> in the hospital last week, as a result of a heart attack.

>

> There are many here on different meds as this disease is a very sly

and

> cleaver monster. Just when you think you've got a hold on it, it

changes. What a

> ride. Stick around, read what others have experienced. No two are

alike.

> What we do share is the chaos of " living a life with Lewy. "

Welcome. Make

> yourself at home. You can get MAIL in your own mail box, or go to

LBDCaregiver's

> EGROUP, and read or respond at our place. The most recent MESSAGES

will be on

> the HOME PAGE wall. If you want to see them all, check out the

LIST (on the

> closet door) on the left side of our HOME PAGE wall. Click on

MESSAGES to see

> them all and then, once there, you can really EXPAND your mind by

clicking on

> the EXPAND MESSAGE at top, left of message list. Now you can just

scroll

> through them all with ease. Browse the attic for stored messages

with our SEARCH

> engine by topic, name, or ? Or put in a # of a certain post and go

right to

> it. Type in a member email address for more on their experiences.

Search the

> closets for LINKS to helpful websites, and the office for FILES on

an

> information packet you can print out, recently presented at the

Caring Counts!

> Conference in Sacramento, CA. Also check out the FILE on free

meds. Tell us about

> yourself in our Member Profile FILE. Sit down, take a load off, and

take a peak

> at our PHOTO album and then take an active part in community

affairs in the

> recently initiated POLL site. I again welcome you as one of our

family. Our

> HOME is your HOME.

>

> Love & Prayers,

> Betty

>

> PS - Don't forget to write down important dates on our CALENDAR so

we can

> send you birthday hugs or share in the important days of your and

your LO's life!

>

>

>

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Beth

Welcome to the caregivers group. You had mentioned a neurologist and a

psychologist...has your mom been back to see either of them? Is she

still staying in bed except to use the restroom? I would make sure to

monitor the meds. she is taking, and any reactions she has. With LBD,

there can be sensitivities to meds., especially some of the drugs used

to treat psychosis.

I will add you to my prayers.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA - dad passed from LBD 9-20-02

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Beth L.

Wow, I have a cousin named Beth with the last name Lambert (she married

into the family, but is still my cousin, just the same). So, you will

be easy to remember. Our other family/group member, Beth is in New

York...just checking my memory.

Yes, please do keep us informed as to how your mom is doing, and with

the med. changes/additions. Plus, we love to know how you are handling

everything.

Take Care of yourself, and sending up prayers!

Sandie

the " IE " Sandy, not the " Y " Sandie LOL

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thanks martha for your two cents because im just so glad to hear that somebody

agrees with me and yes there are stalking laws around here and its his fault

that he dont take action and he says he dont do anything about it to " protect

his kids " ....maybe thats true but i feel sorry for his kids because they have

witnessed this maddness for seven years and in my personal opionion those kids

are just gonna end up in the exact kind of disfuctional relationship

someday.....another thing i dont like about him is that he tells me how terrible

she treats him but yet he sits in her house and asks her to make him a cup of

coffee.....that just dont make any sence....just my opinion but if someone were

stalking me and making my life miserable i wount not be sitting in there house

drinking coffee but he tells me that everything he does has to do with his kids

but what does drinking coffee with the X have to do with his kids???

anyway, im just tired of being in his business all the time ya know....i do

deserve and want better....i just have to stop feeling sorry for him and think

about me....right?

thanks

christina

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Would you GO to someone's house who is stalking you? That doesn't make sense.

Sounds like he is enjoying having the attention of two women -- one who is

justifying him feeling awful, so the other one can comfort him.

It's really easy to feel awful -- and it's fun to make things someone else's

fault. It's hard to take control of a situation and demand self-respect. (That's

what you need to do -- as well as what he needs to do if he truly wants to end

the " stalking " .) What exactly has he done to get out of that situation? Has he

gone to court to get visitation of his kids away from the stalker?

So what kind of relationship would you like to have? And what are you willing to

contribute to it?

Martha

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hi martha...i agree with you 100%...he is enjoying having two woman playing this

game of his....seems he cant decide which one of us he really wants so i suppose

the best thing for me would be to help him out and tell him that he can just

have HER because i am done playing his games.....NO he has not gone to court at

all and neither has she.....the whole thing is just stupid

i want a man who can drive over to my house and pick me up and take me out and

who dosnt have to hide from anyone! and i do have someone interested in me right

now but i am SOOOOO AFRAID to take a chance!!!!!!!! also i have already lost so

many other chances already

but really, why should i be sitting at home alone while he is at her house

drinking coffee????

christina

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Its a pleasure darl, I know how you are feeling as I watched an Aunt go though

the same thing. The trouble was he was telling his ex wife the same. he left my

Aunt when she was pregnanat with my cousin Jayne. Then the father tried to

kidnapp Jayne. I dont think she ever meet him. But as the whole 3 are in heaven

now maybe theyve all meet up and found peace. I just think that some men have

no scuples and lovely sweet people like you are bound for higher and brighter

things. All the best hon and may light shine on you always. Love and light Lyn

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AffirmationstoDe-Stress

A positive thinking, positive affirmations support group, discussing ways to

cope with the stresses of daily life. Come aboard! PJ and Gang

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thanks for sharing that story with me lyn :-)

for now i think its best i avoid talking to this man because he always finds a

way to make me feel so sorry for him....i felt pretty good today and every time

i started to miss him i just would think of something else....also i try to

remember all the bad things he did and said to me over the past 16

months.....its my fault for tolerating it as long as i did and he knew i would

tolerate it so thats why he kept treating me so bad.....oh he is telling me now

that i will never find a man as good as him or that will put up with me BUT

there is nothing wrong with me and what am i losing by staying away from

him????....thats why i think i should just avoid talking to him!

thanks

christina

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Good for you ! It's your life -- put people who will love you, support

you, and treat you with respect in it. It's not your fault for tolerating his

stuff...you were just learning. We all learn how to judge people and pick the

ones who we will love and who will love us. In a few years you'll thank him for

teaching you what you don't want. :)

Martha

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If your relationship, causes more pain than

happiness....then it is time to give that person the

boot. Plus you are right, you'll never see M. Right

if you hold on to this guy. But more so...you need to

get yourself some self respect. AND take control of

your life. Those two things are much more inportant

than any guy in your life.

Barbara

--- frozen fire wrote:

> well my boyfriend broke up with me again

> tonight....its always about his X wife....they have

> not been together for 7 years and right now he is

> telling me that he cant see me at all because she is

> stalking him and he again is telling me to be

> patiant and wait this out.....i went off on him and

> spoke my mind and even told him that he is a grown

> man and needs to put a stop to this!!!.....we

> exchanged words of about an hour...thing is i have

> been waiting for him to settle this thing for 16

> months now and im really not feeling to confident

> that it will ever be over between him and her so he

> told me to just leave him alone and i guess i just

> have no choice but to give him what he wants and to

> just leave him alone huh?

>

> i am 36 years old and i dont want to end up alone

> forever and im feeling as if my real Mr Right might

> come and go if i keep hanging onto this little

> string he has me hanging on.....i was honest and

> told him that.....i dont know if that was the right

> thing to do but if he is asking me to keep waiting

> for him then he needs to know EVERYTHING that is on

> my mind and how i feel and what i want.....i cant

> see how that can be wrong?

>

> any opinions are welcome :-)

>

> thanks

> christina

>

>

>

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Hi,

If there is not understanding and mutual respect in a

relationship, then it is time to part company.

Mark

NYC

>

> > well my boyfriend broke up with me again

> > tonight....its always about his X wife....they have

> > not been together for 7 years and right now he is

> > telling me that he cant see me at all because she is

> > stalking him and he again is telling me to be

> > patiant and wait this out.....i went off on him and

> > spoke my mind and even told him that he is a grown

> > man and needs to put a stop to this!!!.....we

> > exchanged words of about an hour...thing is i have

> > been waiting for him to settle this thing for 16

> > months now and im really not feeling to confident

> > that it will ever be over between him and her so he

> > told me to just leave him alone and i guess i just

> > have no choice but to give him what he wants and to

> > just leave him alone huh?

> >

> > i am 36 years old and i dont want to end up alone

> > forever and im feeling as if my real Mr Right might

> > come and go if i keep hanging onto this little

> > string he has me hanging on.....i was honest and

> > told him that.....i dont know if that was the right

> > thing to do but if he is asking me to keep waiting

> > for him then he needs to know EVERYTHING that is on

> > my mind and how i feel and what i want.....i cant

> > see how that can be wrong?

> >

> > any opinions are welcome :-)

> >

> > thanks

> > christina

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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hi barbra...i really liked what you said about when the relationship causes more

pain then its time to give that persont he boot!,,,,and yes i agree about all

the other stuff you mentioned too and im gonna start working on that :-)

christina

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hi mark...that is good too!...i started writing all this stuff down so i can

look at it all the time to get thru the days....i do so much want to change all

this around and stop feeling so bad all the time

christina

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Hey Carl have a look through some of the archived emails it has valuable

information in it everywhere. And feel free to ask any questions at all.

Regards

Hello

> Thank you for letting me join your group. I have a friend who hs cancer

> and they are all out of options. I hope with you and the the

> information that you have on this site it will give them hope.

>

> Look forward to picking your heads lOL!

>

> Take care

>

> Carl

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You just need some bangers and mash! :-)

_____

From: DS_Friends_Keshishian

[mailto:DS_Friends_Keshishian ] On Behalf Of mjs93311

Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:06 PM

To: DS_Friends_Keshishian

Subject: hello

I still haven't slept but hope to tonight. Only six hours in the past

three or four days. I didnt' think that was really possible. On the

other hand, I don't sleep many hours to begin with. An old intern

habit.

Marta

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