Re: Marta...and others who passed science classes...

[Guest guest]

Mel, Questran works by locking up bile, right? something else

coats, like Pepto bismol and carafate.

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>

> Marta,

> What about the med that coats the lining of the intestine.

Someone was

> prescribed it once...qustran?? (Maybe Jim(????)) I've thought

about asking

> about it to see if it might help the diarrhea and spasmotic

cramping. I've

> wondered if the chyme might cause a corrosive type condition over

the years.

>

Mel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I told her that if someone was giving a shot that

> caused weight loss, he'd be shouting it out loud and making a

fortune

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Mel

Here in CA (for several years now)...there are some diet Doctors

that give shots. I have had several relatives/friends go on it.

Part of the shots are B12. Part are one of the Phens of fen-phen.

Another one uses B12 and " something that makes you gain weight if

you eat wrong " lol...that is how much the folks know about what

they are doing.

Bottom line....every single person lost weight. Every single person

gained weight back the minute they went off the shots. 6 people I

know were on the shots, lost weight, gained back more weight..has

now had GB or DS.

Wanna hear something crazy?? The person who had DS after regaining

weight from the shots is currently paying for her son and daughter-

in-law to be on the shots...CRAZY! But it shows what a monster

obesity is.

If your sister tries going on the shots...it still requires her to

eat differently. And if she doesn't CONTINUE to eat less and the

correct kinds of foods the weight will come back on with FRIENDS.

Also...like with everything else...I have seen folks lose alot of

weight on the shots and I have seen them lose only the slightest

amount. It depends on how strict they were on following the

recommended diet, but the shots alone did not make the weight come

off.

hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

Mel,

I agree with this totally. I actually did it myself. I went on the B-12 shots,

they claimed that was supposed to give us more energy in order to exercise. Then

to that they added a diet pill, I think some type of vitamins (maybe, not quite

sure though) and almost always some water pills. This costed an extreme amount

of money and it wasn't very effective. You had to go atleast once a week to get

the B-12 injections and the other things that you took was only like once a

month. However, you couldn't just hop in your car and head down there when it

was most convienient for you, that would be too easy. No, this was a clinic type

thing. They were only open a few days a week, for a few hours each day. That

means that if you didn't get there early enough, you had a looooonnnngggg line

to wait in. They did give us a diet to go by, but I'm sorry I don't remember it.

I lost a few pounds, I have to admit, and it felt great. However, I GAINED it

back, with quite a few pounds hooked

to it. Jo, was so very right about that one. You know what else??? They have no

type of support system. It's like they herd you into a room like a bunch of

cattle, take your weight, give you your B-12 injection and then if you need your

medication they give you that and then THEY WANT YOUR MONEY. That's it! They are

not very personable, they don't wanna carry on a conversation. It seems like as

far as they are concerned your basically a human ATM machine. Anyhow, I hope

this helps. Sorry, if I went overboard. If you have any more questions just ask.

Love,

Dani

Jo wrote:

I told her that if someone was giving a shot that

> caused weight loss, he'd be shouting it out loud and making a

fortune

=========================

Mel

Here in CA (for several years now)...there are some diet Doctors

that give shots. I have had several relatives/friends go on it.

Part of the shots are B12. Part are one of the Phens of fen-phen.

Another one uses B12 and " something that makes you gain weight if

you eat wrong " lol...that is how much the folks know about what

they are doing.

Bottom line....every single person lost weight. Every single person

gained weight back the minute they went off the shots. 6 people I

know were on the shots, lost weight, gained back more weight..has

now had GB or DS.

Wanna hear something crazy?? The person who had DS after regaining

weight from the shots is currently paying for her son and daughter-

in-law to be on the shots...CRAZY! But it shows what a monster

obesity is.

If your sister tries going on the shots...it still requires her to

eat differently. And if she doesn't CONTINUE to eat less and the

correct kinds of foods the weight will come back on with FRIENDS.

Also...like with everything else...I have seen folks lose alot of

weight on the shots and I have seen them lose only the slightest

amount. It depends on how strict they were on following the

recommended diet, but the shots alone did not make the weight come

off.

hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 10:36:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rdhdblueydcwgl02@... writes:

Anyhow, I hope this helps. Sorry, if I went overboard. If you have any more

questions just ask.

Love,

Dani

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So place this one in the too good to be true file?..LOL. I can give my own

B12 injection and save a lot of money. Oh, Did you guys see where they are

talking about making Orlistat(xenical) the fat blocker an OTC med? You know the

one where one of the side effects was basically ds symptoms(gas, diarrhea

with fats, oil slicks)

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 9:26:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

moobabies@... writes:

It depends on how strict they were on following the

recommended diet, but the shots alone did not make the weight come

off.

hugs

Jo

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Thanks Jo. You know we are behind most of the country in fads, so I guess

this one is making the rounds. I remember when people were putting staples in

their ears to lose weight when I was in my teens and 20's. Me? I 'd have just

looked weird and still been fat.

Mel

[Guest guest]

I was given Questran along with Flagyl for severe colitis from C-diff. It

didn't seem to be any different than taking just Flagyl.

in WA

[Guest guest]

Mel, you are correct that Questran would not go down the bile

channel. As for the shots, I haven't heard anything about a reputable

shot for losing weight. I hear lots of rip-off stories, however. I

really don't know what they are talking about.

Marta

The Sharon(My sis) told me a lady at the hospital was taking shots

> that were originally used for diabetes, 2 times a day and was

losing weight

> with them. Any clue to what the heck they could be talking about?

[Guest guest]

How do you get the stuff to give your own B12 shots???? Talk to me girl!

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From: DS_Friends_Keshishian

[mailto:DS_Friends_Keshishian ] On Behalf Of MDL1031@...

Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:37 PM

To: DS_Friends_Keshishian

Subject: Re: Re: Marta...and others who passed

science classes...

So place this one in the too good to be true file?..LOL. I can give my own

B12 injection and save a lot of money. Oh, Did you guys see where they are

talking about making Orlistat(xenical) the fat blocker an OTC med? You know

the

one where one of the side effects was basically ds symptoms(gas, diarrhea

with fats, oil slicks)

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 6:06:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

rdhdblueydcwgl02@... writes:

Like I said in another response, I didn't give myself the injections. I had

to go the clinic and you got them there. Someone else (a nurse) gave them to

you. Sorry, I guess I wasn't very clear on that. I'm sorry about the

misunderstanding.

MDL1031@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/8/2006 10:36:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rdhdblueydcwgl02@... writes:

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No Dani,

You were clear ...I was being sarcastic. Strange sense of humor. In case

you didn't know I'm a RN and meant that if all it was were b 12 injections.

They are dirt cheap and I could give my own and bypass the cost...LOL. Not

worth the effort.

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 4:40:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

sonofmosiah@... writes:

How do you get the stuff to give your own B12 shots???? Talk to me girl!

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Jim,

B 12 is dirt cheap or used to be. Comes in a multi dose vial and most

pharmacies carry it. Just get a doc to prescribe 1 cc every week or month as

needed. I have given tons of them in home health and used to give my own when I

was first diagnosed with b 12 deficiency. you can order it online from

Canada for about 14 dollars for 10 doses. It isn't prescription in Canada. At

Walgreen's 30 cc (30 doses) are right at 11 dollars.

CYANOCOBALAMIN 1000MCG/ML INJ 30ML $10.99

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 6:54:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

SassyNpink@... writes:

I was given Questran along with Flagyl for severe colitis from C-diff. It

didn't seem to be any different than taking just Flagyl.

in WA

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Thanks for the input .

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 8:41:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

moobabies@... writes:

The

RNYers didn't seem to think it was a big deal....CRAZY...NO FREAKIN

WAY this MONKEY LOVIN Chick is Giving HERSELF a SHOT, especially with

a needle gauge meant for livestock! lol...OK you found out my

quivering in the corner weakness.

Hugs

Jo

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How big is a livestock needle(guage)??!! Heck, Surely they know someone who

is a diabetic and can get a little one. As long as you stick with the deltoid

(arm muscle) or the thigh if your not too chunky there, it should get you to

the muscle. Heck buy a kitten needle or one for an animal of comparable size

and skin thickness...LOL.

Mel

[Guest guest]

That's something I know nothing about. I never gave myself the shots, I always

had them done at the clinic.

Jim wrote: How do you get the stuff to give your own

B12 shots???? Talk to me girl!

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From: DS_Friends_Keshishian

[mailto:DS_Friends_Keshishian ] On Behalf Of MDL1031@...

Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:37 PM

To: DS_Friends_Keshishian

Subject: Re: Re: Marta...and others who passed

science classes...

So place this one in the too good to be true file?..LOL. I can give my own

B12 injection and save a lot of money. Oh, Did you guys see where they are

talking about making Orlistat(xenical) the fat blocker an OTC med? You know

the

one where one of the side effects was basically ds symptoms(gas, diarrhea

with fats, oil slicks)

Mel

[Guest guest]

Like I said in another response, I didn't give myself the injections. I had to

go the clinic and you got them there. Someone else (a nurse) gave them to you.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't very clear on that. I'm sorry about the

misunderstanding.

MDL1031@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/8/2006 10:36:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rdhdblueydcwgl02@... writes:

Anyhow, I hope this helps. Sorry, if I went overboard. If you have any more

questions just ask.

Love,

Dani

_________________

So place this one in the too good to be true file?..LOL. I can give my own

B12 injection and save a lot of money. Oh, Did you guys see where they are

talking about making Orlistat(xenical) the fat blocker an OTC med? You know the

one where one of the side effects was basically ds symptoms(gas, diarrhea

with fats, oil slicks)

Mel

[Guest guest]

How do you get the stuff to give your own B12 shots???? Talk to me

girl!

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Jim...I don't know about Mel...but...I can tell you that MANY online

RNYers get B12, needles and syringes from online animal supply

sources. My first thought was " ouch...big-ass gauge needles! " The

RNYers didn't seem to think it was a big deal....CRAZY...NO FREAKIN

WAY this MONKEY LOVIN Chick is Giving HERSELF a SHOT, especially with

a needle gauge meant for livestock! lol...OK you found out my

quivering in the corner weakness.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hey Mel,

Sorry about the misunderstanding. I didn't know that you were an RN, don't I

feel stupid. I don't want anymore injections of any sort, trust me. I was at the

doctor again today and they wanted some more of my blood. Any advice on Bladder

Infections and Yeast Infections??? Or does anyone else have any advice??? I

guess my Urologist hasn't been doing his job (I just got a new one, the old one

is FIRED!!!). My new Urologist told me that I have a severe bladder infection

and that it seems like I've had it for a long time. He also said that I have an

on-set of a Yeast Infection, not that it won't get worse after I get done taking

the Bactrim. Anyhow, sorry again about the misunderstanding, Mel. If anyone has

any advice, please let me know.

Dani

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No Dani,

You were clear ...I was being sarcastic. Strange sense of humor. In case

you didn't know I'm a RN and meant that if all it was were b 12 injections.

They are dirt cheap and I could give my own and bypass the cost...LOL. Not

worth the effort.

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/19/2006 2:24:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rdhdblueydcwgl02@... writes:

Hey Mel,

Sorry about the misunderstanding. I didn't know that you were an RN, don't I

feel stupid. I don't want anymore injections of any sort, trust me. I was at

the doctor again today and they wanted some more of my blood. Any advice on

Bladder Infections and Yeast Infections??? Or does anyone else have any

advice???

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What misunderstanding? What did I miss.....? LOL. It's not like I post M.

Loyd RN on every post. But I have signed a few checks like that over the years.

(Habit) I graduated high school in 1982 and from nursing school in 1985 and

worked Until 1999. I was forced to quit after a car wreck and a 15 pound

lifting restriction.

My advice about bladder is the most common and easiest thing to do.

Drink water like a fish! Also avoid soft drinks(That one is hard for me) And

tea

as much as possible. Cranberry juice helps, It does something that stops

bacteria in the lining of the bladder. The water flushes out the bad stuff, I

do

know some people who suggest a beer when the bladder is inflamed to flush

the kidneys, But I'm not sure clinically how much this helps. A local urologist

used to suggest this, A friend knew a family where the 8 yr old kid was told

to drink 1/2 with lunch and 1/2 with supper. Said it helped but embarassed

them when the kid went to the fridge and started drinking his dinner beer when

the preacher came to eat...LOL. Lots of explaining....

As for yeast infections, Monistat is the easiest and easiest to get.

Then a doc can prescribe diflucan, the one time pill. Antibiotics always give

me

yeast, so I start with yougurt the same day, Lately I just ask for the 2nd

prescription instead of waiting and start it 3 days into the antibiotics. I

have heard some people who actually spread yogurt on their affected parts Non

sweetened. But I think that's yucky....LOL. Buttermilk and all the good

bacteria stuff helps too. keep lots of good bacteria in your body. Treating it

as

soon as symptoms start is good to, don't let it get real bad. Vagisil helps

with itching, But doesn't treat the cause.

Hope this helps you. I don't know everything but have learned a few

tricks in my life....LOL.

Mel