Re: Raw Milk & Casein Intorerance

[Guest guest]

>I would appreciate any comments and feedback from the group on how she can

overcome this. There seem to be solutions for lactose intolerance in terms of

supplements, however I have yet to find any solution of casein intolerance.

>

>Thank you in advance your help.

I can't help ... I have the same issues. The brain thing seems to be real:

when I drink milk I get all kinds of weird effects, one of them being

that my eyes can't focus. And I get so I can't think straight ... it definitely

feels like a drug. I get really thirsty the next day too, and dried out.

And my migraines have stopped since I dropped dairy. No constipation though.

Raw goat milk is the same as pastuerized cows milk for me.

However I am also casein intolerant (IgA), so I can't

say that those effects happen on everyone, and other folks drink

milk with no effect and feel great on it. Kefiring the milk does help

a lot. IgA reactions are not the same as opioid reactions, and there

is some controversy about the opioid thing ... while they think

*something* happens in the brain, not all researchers think it is

opioid connected. Another thing that happens in IgA reactions is

that the gut/blood and blood/brain barriers become porous,

which allows stuff from the gut into the brain that normally wouldn't

be there. There is no known cure for IgA intolerances, and what

evidence there is suggests that once the reaction starts, it doesn't

go away. The symptoms can be mitigated though ... taking Pepto

Bismol with the meal, or Bentonite (I use Pascalite), or red wine

seems to help quite a bit. But personally I think that if a person is

intolerant to casein, then raw milk is not a health food for that

person ... better to eat stuff like fried dried anchovies, kimchi,

collard greens, cod liver oil.

I have read that the opioids are there to make the baby sleepy

though ... babies sleep a LOT, and they sure seem to zonk out

after drinking milk. There are opioids in gluten too ... if she reacts

to the ones in milk she may react to the ones in wheat also, the

issues are very similar and for some reason the folks who react

to one tend to react to the other.

>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

katja wrote:

> if she can find someone with purebred guernseys, she could try that

> milk -

> guernsey milk is the only animal milk that has a different type of

> casein -

> type A2, the same as human milk - and maybe she won't react to it.

> they're

> finding that some kids with autism (who are casein intolerant) can

> tolerate

> guernsey milk...

Jerseys also produce A2 milk and I read somewhere (maybe here) that

goat's milk is A2 as well.

Cheers,

Tas'.

[Guest guest]

> Raw Milk & Casein Intorerance

>

>I would appreciate any comments and feedback from the group on how

>she can overcome this. There seem to be solutions for lactose

>intolerance in terms of supplements, however I have yet to find

>any solution of casein intolerance.

>

>Thank you in advance your help.

,

This won't solve the problem of casein intolerance, but can help her to

consume dairy products safely. There are enzyme products specifically made

to digest gluten and casein. I use one from Houston Nutraceuticals Inc.

called Peptizyde.

http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?SID=3534 & N=Peptizyde

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

> Re: Raw Milk & Casein Intorerance

>

>

>if she can find someone with purebred guernseys, she could try that milk -

>guernsey milk is the only animal milk that has a different type of

>casein -

>type A2, the same as human milk - and maybe she won't react to it. they're

>finding that some kids with autism (who are casein intolerant) can

>tolerate

>guernsey milk...

>

>-katja

Katja,

Are you sure about that? My understanding is that Jerseys tend to have

higher type 2 casein proteins than type 1 and that even Holsteins have

*some* A2s, but much more A1's. Goat milk also tends to be higher in A2

also, from what I've read.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

----------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Wow, Katja! Explains why the Guernsey milk from our Lady that cured my colic

as a baby gave me no reactions, why I got allergic shiners after raw milk

was no longer available, why I quit most dairy and why going back to Jersey

raw milk gave me casein reactions of just different constipation like

described along with mucus production, respiratory congestion and

eye gravel in the morning.

Reading Genetic Nutritioneering by S. Bland PhD. He adds to casein,

activation of the immune system like low grade flu, sore muscles, joints,

low energy, brain fog. Lactose intolerant can be galactose intolerant as

well, running high risk for cataracts. Dad had the worst cataracts surgeon

had seen removed few years back.

Wanita

> if she can find someone with purebred guernseys, she could try that milk -

> guernsey milk is the only animal milk that has a different type of

casein -

> type A2, the same as human milk - and maybe she won't react to it. they're

> finding that some kids with autism (who are casein intolerant) can

tolerate

> guernsey milk...

>

> -katja

[Guest guest]

At 07:58 PM 9/19/2004, you wrote:

> > Re: Raw Milk & Casein Intorerance

> >

> >

> >if she can find someone with purebred guernseys, she could try that milk -

> >guernsey milk is the only animal milk that has a different type of

> >casein -

> >type A2, the same as human milk - and maybe she won't react to it. they're

> >finding that some kids with autism (who are casein intolerant) can

> >tolerate

> >guernsey milk...

> >

> >-katja

>

>Katja,

>

>Are you sure about that? My understanding is that Jerseys tend to have

>higher type 2 casein proteins than type 1 and that even Holsteins have

>*some* A2s, but much more A1's. Goat milk also tends to be higher in A2

>also, from what I've read.

>

>Suze Fisher

it might have been that guersneys don't have *any* type 1 - i read it in an

article that went around here earlier in the summer on research they're

doing in austrailia.

-katja

[Guest guest]

Suze, do these enzymes allow you to eat gluten and casein?

Del

" Suze Fisher " wrote:

>

> > Raw Milk & Casein Intorerance

> >

>

> >I would appreciate any comments and feedback from the group on how

> >she can overcome this. There seem to be solutions for lactose

> >intolerance in terms of supplements, however I have yet to find

> >any solution of casein intolerance.

> >

> >Thank you in advance your help.

>

>

> ,

>

> This won't solve the problem of casein intolerance, but can help

her to

> consume dairy products safely. There are enzyme products

specifically made

> to digest gluten and casein. I use one from Houston Nutraceuticals

Inc.

> called Peptizyde.

>

> http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?

SID=3534 & N=Peptizyde

>

>

>

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

> Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

> http://www.westonaprice.org

>

> ----------------------------

> " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol

cause

> heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our

times. " --

> Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at

Vanderbilt

> University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

>

> The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

> <http://www.thincs.org>

> ----------------------------

>

> >