Re: Warrior Diet...again...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think Ori's idea that fruit should be the mainstay of the undereating phase

and can be eaten in relatively large amounts is inconsistent with the Warrior

Diet. Of course, he wrote it, so I guess it means whatever he says, but the

underlying principle is to fast from insulin-stimulating foods during the day

and it just isn't true that fructose doesn't stimulate insulin. A banana will

stimulate plenty!

Also, fruit doesn't contain significant amino acids, and doesn't have much

body/brain-stimulating power.

The best foods for the undereating phase, IMO are:

1) sauerkraut

2) coconut oil (or coconut, but better if it was fermented)

The main source of energy for the undereating phase should be short and

medium-chain fatty acids, as in coconut oil or MCT oil. These fulfill the

criteria

of not requiring digestion or insulin, but have the added benefit of being

metabolism-boosters.

Sauerkraut has very few calories, practically none compared to most foods,

and is high in tyramine, which is an amino acid that stimulates the nervous

system. It's also a detoxifying food, I think, which is consistent with the

undereating phase.

I would try eating a half cup to a cup of sauerkraut for breakfast and at

several other points during the day, and eating coconut oil freely off the

spoon,

or however you can make it appealing.

If this does not suffice, I'd add raw egg yolks and/or steak or fish,

preferably raw, in whatever amount you need to ease you into the diet.

If you get hunger headaches/nech aches, try exercising for 15 minutes or

drinking some green or black tea.

Hope this helps,

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Do you know what makes you feel *good* to eat?

Eat a little bit of that, otherwise, I guess you'll have to keep experimenting.

WD didn't get easy for me until I started just eating little pieces of

fresh coconut throughout the day (thanks Chris). I have to be careful

just eating fruit, but as I continued the WD it got easier and easier

and my hypoglycemic symptoms faded and now I feel comfortable having a

little fruit here and there.

The idea is to just eat raw stuff during the day, easy to digest. No

cooked starches is really the rule, I think. Eat watcha like and

don't try to all-out fast.

Good luck,

B.

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:55:58 -0400, <jessclaire@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I started the WD again today and I feel like CRAP...I couldn't find

> the book last night, so I'm probably missing something HUGE. Is this

> normal? I'm in such a fog right now that I can't remember what

> happened at the beginning of the diet last time I tried it.

>

> so far, today I've eaten:

>

> herbal (almond) tea with raw milk

> small plum

> handful of almonds

> cantelope and pineapple (zowie--the stomach felt that one!)

> a cup of detox tea

> 2 slices raw cheese (really felt funky after that...stuffy/headache)

> lots of water

>

> I probably ate waaay too much sugar already. Any thoughts?

>

>

>

> --

> If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>I started the WD again today and I feel like CRAP...I couldn't find

>the book last night, so I'm probably missing something HUGE. Is this

>normal? I'm in such a fog right now that I can't remember what

>happened at the beginning of the diet last time I tried it.

I went cold turkey when I did it, and the first day was HORRID,

even though I actually ate a fair amount. Took a couple of

weeks to reach an even keep. Drinking lots of water, coconut oil,

coffee helped. I think Ori mentions this, and doesn't really

recommend going cold turkey. But he says it's from cortisol ...

your body gets used to not eating eventually and starts using

stored fat and glycogen, but it's out of practice.

>herbal (almond) tea with raw milk

>small plum

>handful of almonds

>cantelope and pineapple (zowie--the stomach felt that one!)

>a cup of detox tea

>2 slices raw cheese (really felt funky after that...stuffy/headache)

>lots of water

Cheese always makes me feel foggy ... those opioids

you know! But eating on an empty stomach, foods that don't

bother you with a meal, you may notice a problem with them.

So like others said ... keep track of what DOES make you

feel good. Prosciutto (something with protein and salt) seems

to help me. And dill pickles, and grapefruit with MCT.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the tips!

It's day 2 and I already feel better. I had a small glass of keifer

and 2 T. coconut oil for breakfast. However, I felt so bad last night

that I couldn't really overeat, per se. I did manage to suck down

some ice cream, though ; )

And yes, dear glutenater, I am keeping a diary again. I definitely

have reactions to some cheeses and raw garlic (whahhh...doncha hate it

when you can't eat NT-approved stuff?)

Tea with caffine definitely is a keeper--in fact, that's my usual

headache remedy.

I'll go to the HFS at " lunch " and buy some real kraut to keep at work

(thanks Chris!)

Heidi wrote:

" your body gets used to not eating eventually and starts using stored

fat and glycogen "

I say: can't wait for THAT to happen!!!!!

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If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

[Guest guest]

>And yes, dear glutenater, I am keeping a diary again. I definitely

>have reactions to some cheeses and raw garlic (whahhh...doncha hate it

>when you can't eat NT-approved stuff?)

FWIW I can't eat raw garlic either ... it's ok in kimchi though.

Kimchi made with collards, ground up whole anchovies and

shrimp, and tons of garlic does wonders .... it has the same

kind of " regulating " effect kraut has, I think. Something about

lactic acid and blood sugar works good.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Heidi, the collards aren't tough at all when you culture them? I've

never liked collards much, but fermented....

Even garlic in kimchee gives me trouble sometimes...and then sometimes

I'm just fine.

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If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

[Guest guest]

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>I've

>never liked collards much

Sacrilege! Have you ever prepared them soul food-style?

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[Guest guest]

>Heidi, the collards aren't tough at all when you culture them? I've

>never liked collards much, but fermented....

Well, I just love collards so I don't know how the taste changes,

if you'd like them. As for tough ... depends how old they are.

But the center rib is the tough part, you can just omit it.

>Even garlic in kimchee gives me trouble sometimes...and then sometimes

>I'm just fine.

Too bad! I loves garlic ...

>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

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>

> Sacrilege! Have you ever prepared them soul food-style?

LOL--you're right...I do like them if they have a sufficient amount of

PIG FAT in them, but I don't really know how to make them that

way...if you have an easy recipe, I'm all ears. Collards got a bad

name in my book when I tried to cook them in the macrobiotic style:

YUCK! Thank God I grew out of that phase...

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If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

>

> Too bad! I loves garlic ...

Me too! Me too! My response to garlic (headache) is very

unpredictable...hopefully the food diary will help in this arena. I

can eat kimchee with garlic no problem, sometimes. Also pesto....but

then at other times I feel terrible. Might have to do with what I'm

eating *with* the garlic.

[Guest guest]

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>LOL--you're right...I do like them if they have a sufficient amount of

>PIG FAT in them, but I don't really know how to make them that

>way...if you have an easy recipe, I'm all ears.

If you can get some smoked ham hocks, you're in business, at least for

boiled collards. I don't presently know of an NT-friendly source, though,

but if you find one here in NYC, please let me know!

Basically, put several hocks (2-3# I guess) in a big pot of water and

simmer them for a couple hours. You'll probably have to top off the water

a couple times, though IMO the less water you can get away with in the end,

the better. You want the hocks to literally start falling apart. Then

wash the collards (4-5# maybe, a lot) slice them up and add them in batches

to the pot. Once they're all in there, you want to cook them for awhile,

twenty minutes or so, on a medium flame, not quite a simmer. Stir

periodically to mix up all the falling-apart hock meat and fat with the

collards, and then serve.

Another way is to wash and cut up the collards, cook some bacon, take the

bacon out, cook the collards in the bacon grease until they're wilted, then

add some water (half a cup, maybe) and steam them until they're

tender. Serve with the bacon.

There are probably lots of other ways, actually; I haven't made collards in

forever (a sad state of affairs I'll have to rectify soon) so I don't know.

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[Guest guest]

--- Blazey <teresa.blazey@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

> Do you know what makes you feel *good* to eat?

> Eat a little bit of that, otherwise, I guess you'll

> have to keep experimenting.

> WD didn't get easy for me until I started just

> eating little pieces of

> fresh coconut throughout the day (thanks Chris). I

> have to be careful

> just eating fruit, but as I continued the WD it got

> easier and easier

I found that on the WD, I still had to stick to my

regular food cycles. If I tried to eat just little

bits and pieces of food here and there, I grazed all

day long with no concept of how much I was eating! So

now I have a small breakfast (1 scrambled egg and

butter), lunch of large salad and 2 thin slices of

Parma ham (the leaves fill me up for a certain length

of time), a small snack when I get home to last me

through the cooking of dinner, but which I counted as

part of my 4 hour feast.

Now I do the first 2, but not the third. I don't

feast anymore, because I was gaining weight. I just

eat a normal dinner, and I am losing weight.

JO

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--- Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>

wrote:

> Prosciutto (something with protein and

> salt) seems

> to help me. And dill pickles, and grapefruit with

> MCT.

>

>

Is it actually possible to eat grapefruit without some

form of sweetner? Or do you use stevia?

JO

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jo,

I'm not Heidi :-) but for me the answer is YES... I always eat grapefruit

without any added sweetener... my favourite are red grapefruits, segments cut

out from the pith and membranes... I eat them with smoked mackerel for breakfast

often.

Dedy

From: Joanne Pollack <<Is it actually possible to eat grapefruit without some

form of sweetner? Or do you use stevia?>>

[Guest guest]

>Is it actually possible to eat grapefruit without some

>form of sweetner? Or do you use stevia?

>

>JO

You know, I never thought about it much. One day

someone gave us a box of grapefruit and I started

eating them and got hooked. I like to leave the

bitter white stuff on too (of course I also like

raw dandelion greens, so my tastes are skewed ...).

They taste plenty sweet enough to me. Oranges

taste way too sweet though.

>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Jo wrote:

>Is it actually possible to eat grapefruit without some

>form of sweetner? Or do you use stevia?

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~~~~> I haven't put sweetener on a grapefruit since I was a small child, when

I put sugar on everything in sight. I love grapefruit. I even love drinking

the juice freshly squeezed from it.

Chris