Water filter - recommendations ?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

....

Seeking water filter recommendations....

Thanks!

Bill

....

[Guest guest]

Dear Bill,

Get an undercounter reverse osmosis setup and add the minerals back in with

Concentrace or Essential Elements.

Works for me .....

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

To: oxyplus

From: b.b.bb@...

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:49:13 -0700

Subject: Water filter - recommendations ?

Hi,

I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

....

Seeking water filter recommendations....

Thanks!

Bill

....

[Guest guest]

Thanks Saul,

I'm reading instructions to install, and maintain a reverse osmosis

system... Looks a more complicated than a filter system.

It appears a TDS meter is needed, to find out when the membrane needs

replacing... (or to know if it's actually working correctly) ?

Does the reservoir need to be fully drained, regularly (once a week?),

to clean the R.O. membrane?

Bill

--- At 11:47 PM 27, 27 10 2010, Saul Pressman wrote:

>

>Dear Bill,

>Get an undercounter reverse osmosis setup and add the minerals back in with

Concentrace or Essential Elements.

>

>Works for me .....

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman

>

>

>

>To: oxyplus

>From: b.b.bb@...

>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:49:13 -0700

>Subject: Water filter - recommendations ?

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

>able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

>

>Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

>the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

>pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

>

>And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

>

>

>Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

>and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

>primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

>

>Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

>to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

>

>Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

>

>...

>

>Seeking water filter recommendations....

>

>Thanks!

>

>Bill

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bill,

You don't need a TDS meter.

You don't need to clean the membrane. They are self-flushing.

All you need is a sediment prefilter, and a chlorine prefilter (usually KDF).

Chlorine kills r/o membranes, therefore the need for the prefilter.

So the unit will have three cylinders.

The sediment prefilter will need replacing every six months or so.

The KDF chlorine fliter is good for two years at least.

The r/o membrane is good for five years, if the two previous filters

are doing their job properly.

Ours is a Sierra model (don't know if that is available anymore or the brand).

It has a little tap that installs on the sink up top, with a spring loaded

lever.

Flip the lever and you get lots of nice clean water. We put ours in a dispenser

container, add a few drops of Concentrace and keep it in the fridge.

Then we fill a glass from the dispenser, ozonate it and drink it.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

To: oxyplus

From: b.b.bb@...

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:23:27 -0700

Subject: RE: Water filter - recommendations ?

Thanks Saul,

I'm reading instructions to install, and maintain a reverse osmosis

system... Looks a more complicated than a filter system.

It appears a TDS meter is needed, to find out when the membrane needs

replacing... (or to know if it's actually working correctly) ?

Does the reservoir need to be fully drained, regularly (once a week?),

to clean the R.O. membrane?

Bill

--- At 11:47 PM 27, 27 10 2010, Saul Pressman wrote:

>

>Dear Bill,

>Get an undercounter reverse osmosis setup and add the minerals back in with

Concentrace or Essential Elements.

>

>Works for me .....

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman

>

>

>

>To: oxyplus

>From: b.b.bb@...

>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:49:13 -0700

>Subject: Water filter - recommendations ?

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

>able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

>

>Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

>the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

>pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

>

>And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

>

>

>Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

>and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

>primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

>

>Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

>to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

>

>Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

>

>...

>

>Seeking water filter recommendations....

>

>Thanks!

>

>Bill

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill, depending on where you are, you may want to also filter out the arsenic,

which is a potent glutathione/selenium depletor even at 5 PPB levels. I think

the USA still allows 25 PPB arsenic against the advice of scientists who proved

that at .5 PPB there are biological impairments.

You could also elevate glutathione and selenium to allow for some depletion by

background arsenic levels in your water.

Glutathione level is a reliable indicator of disease state and progress, with

low levels always indicating a poor prognosis.

The theory that distilled water somehow leaches minerals from the body is

unsupported by fact; it's based on a theoretical lack of molecular control of

minerals and water in the body, which is not the case. So, it doesn't matter

when you add your minerals; they don't have to be in the water but can be in

your food or in a supplement.

all good,

Duncan

>>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

> able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

>

> Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

> the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

> pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

>

> And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

>

>

> Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

> and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

> primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

>

> Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

> to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

>

> Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

>

> ...

>

>

> Seeking water filter recommendations....

>

>

> Thanks!

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

> ...

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Duncan,

The city here lists 0.004 PPB arsenic; the state allows up to 10 PPB.

And the fluoride filters mostly claim to remove arsenic too, apparently.

I take NAC and selenium that help with glutathione. What else is " basic " for

that?

Not sure about the issue of deionized water. There are claims that deionization

alters the H2O molecular geometry slightly (the angles between the three atoms),

and thereby the water's energy content, and the water's effects on living

things, etc...

Who knows? I want to look that up again. Have you read about that?

( There's one distiller that is claimed to create " living water " . But distillers

are terrible indoors; they need to be outdoors to prevent high humidity,

condensation on cool surfaces, and unhealthy mold growth. )

Bill

--- At 02:21 PM 05, 05 11 2010, DuncanCrow wrote:

>

>Bill, depending on where you are, you may want to also filter out the arsenic,

which is a potent glutathione/selenium depletor even at 5 PPB levels. I think

the USA still allows 25 PPB arsenic against the advice of scientists who proved

that at .5 PPB there are biological impairments.

>

>You could also elevate glutathione and selenium to allow for some depletion by

background arsenic levels in your water.

>

>Glutathione level is a reliable indicator of disease state and progress, with

low levels always indicating a poor prognosis.

>

>The theory that distilled water somehow leaches minerals from the body is

unsupported by fact; it's based on a theoretical lack of molecular control of

minerals and water in the body, which is not the case. So, it doesn't matter

when you add your minerals; they don't have to be in the water but can be in

your food or in a supplement.

>

>all good,

>

>Duncan

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>> Hi,

>>

>> I'm looking for a quality, low-cost, " undercounter " water filter, which is

>> able to remove Fluoride.. and supplies around 1 gallon per day (or more?).

>>

>> Not a faucet-mounted filter.... and a counter-top filter that " clips onto "

>> the faucet, would need to be modified, to tap into the sink's cold-water

>> pipe; but that could void the warrantee..

>>

>> And not a distiller, or water-ionizer, or anything that exotic..

>>

>>

>> Reverse Osmosis removes Fluoride, as well as all the healthy minerals,

>> and it acidifies the water... therefore R.O. water isn't healthy for

>> primary, long-term use... is that not correct?

>>

>> Can R.O. water be " remineralized " -- conveniently and inexpensively --

>> to render it fully acceptable as a primary source of drinking water?

>>

>> Do any studies quantify the remineralization of dietary R.O. water?

>>

>> ...

>>

>> Seeking water filter recommendations....

>>

>>

>> Thanks!

>>

>> Bill

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill, oral NAC yields toxic free form cysteine on contact with water as well as

presenting whatever bioavailable NAC remains to the liver. Cysteine bonded to

other amino acids as they are in undenatured whey is bioavailable and non-toxic.

Yes, I read some of those comments in the Amega Amwater Actify presentation.

They said microclustered is better, and that the infusion of zero-point energy

blows the doors off any other water machine. Don't know if it gets arsenic or

fluorine.

I think adding energy with an ozonater would be a good idea but I'm not doing it

myself even though I have the equipment. If I was sick, yes, but I can't be

bothered when I'm well.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> Thanks Duncan,

>

> The city here lists 0.004 PPB arsenic; the state allows up to 10 PPB.

>

> And the fluoride filters mostly claim to remove arsenic too, apparently.

>

> I take NAC and selenium that help with glutathione. What else is " basic " for

that?

>

> Not sure about the issue of deionized water. There are claims that

deionization alters the H2O molecular geometry slightly (the angles between the

three atoms), and thereby the water's energy content, and the water's effects on

living things, etc...

>

> Who knows? I want to look that up again. Have you read about that?

>

> ( There's one distiller that is claimed to create " living water " . But

distillers are terrible indoors; they need to be outdoors to prevent high

humidity, condensation on cool surfaces, and unhealthy mold growth. )

>

> Bill

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan,

Could you point me to an article that discusses the science supporting the

" toxic " problem with NAC?

I tried to Google that, but all I find is people hyping ImmunoCal. Where is the

science?

No thanks with the whey. (For me that's an extreme allergen.)

Thanks,

Bill

P.S. -- I did find this...

by A. Passwater, Ph.D.

" There are a few toxicological studies of NAC available and the following

observations can be made. NAC in normal food supplementation ranges is without

known toxicity and has been administered by physicians under supervision in

doses of 500 milligrams to four grams daily. Daily levels of 1,000 milligrams

of NAC per kilogram in rats for several months did not produce adverse effects

in behavior, weight gain, hematology, liver function and kidney function. [81]

(That's the equivalent of 60 grams of NAC per day for a 132 pound person, 80

grams per day for a 176 pound person, or 100 grams per day for a 220 pound

person.) "

" 81. Toxicological, pharmacokinetics and metabolic studies on acetylcysteine.

Bonanomi, L. and Gazzaniga, A. Eur. J. Respir. Dis. 61(Sup):45-51 (1980) "

--- At 09:25 PM 07, 07 11 2010, DuncanCrow wrote:

>

>Bill, oral NAC yields toxic free form cysteine on contact with water as well as

presenting whatever bioavailable NAC remains to the liver. Cysteine bonded to

other amino acids as they are in undenatured whey is bioavailable and non-toxic.

>

>Yes, I read some of those comments in the Amega Amwater Actify presentation.

They said microclustered is better, and that the infusion of zero-point energy

blows the doors off any other water machine. Don't know if it gets arsenic or

fluorine.

>

>I think adding energy with an ozonater would be a good idea but I'm not doing

it myself even though I have the equipment. If I was sick, yes, but I can't be

bothered when I'm well.

>

>all good,

>

>Duncan

>

>

>>

>>

>> Thanks Duncan,

>>

>> The city here lists 0.004 PPB arsenic; the state allows up to 10 PPB.

>>

>> And the fluoride filters mostly claim to remove arsenic too, apparently.

>>

>> I take NAC and selenium that help with glutathione. What else is " basic " for

that?

>>

>> Not sure about the issue of deionized water. There are claims that

deionization alters the H2O molecular geometry slightly (the angles between the

three atoms), and thereby the water's energy content, and the water's effects on

living things, etc...

>>

>> Who knows? I want to look that up again. Have you read about that?

>>

>> ( There's one distiller that is claimed to create " living water " . But

distillers are terrible indoors; they need to be outdoors to prevent high

humidity, condensation on cool surfaces, and unhealthy mold growth. )

>>

>> Bill

>>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

OK, I did find something here:

Nacetylcysteine caution - Dr Mercola

http://www.prohealth.com/me-cfs/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=1158377

Physorg.com September 4, 2007

http://www.physorg.com/news108147817.html

Journal of Clinical Investigation September, 2007; 117(9):2592-601 (Free Full

Text Report)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1952618/?tool=pubmed

.... Is this what you were referring to...?

--- At 09:25 PM 07, 07 11 2010, DuncanCrow wrote:

>

>Bill, oral NAC yields toxic free form cysteine on contact with water as well as

presenting whatever bioavailable NAC remains to the liver. Cysteine bonded to

other amino acids as they are in undenatured whey is bioavailable and non-toxic.

>

>Yes, I read some of those comments in the Amega Amwater Actify presentation.

They said microclustered is better, and that the infusion of zero-point energy

blows the doors off any other water machine. Don't know if it gets arsenic or

fluorine.

>

>I think adding energy with an ozonater would be a good idea but I'm not doing

it myself even though I have the equipment. If I was sick, yes, but I can't be

bothered when I'm well.

>

>all good,

>

>Duncan

>

>

>

>

>