Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 My main suggestion is to watch out for a herx reaction with the IV Chelation. My MIL had several sessions, but her system was so deteriorated at the time that, I believe, when the herx hit, it was more that her system could handle. I still believe in it, but in her case, it was just too much for her system. She died.  I'd still do it, but be very careful not to get too much at once. I'd build up to it, if it were me.... " Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. " Faulkner Subject: high blood pressure / arteries To: oxyplus Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:33 PM  Dear Saul & group, I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder about the state of my arteries. I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure only ends up with a higher blood pressure. Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a " 1/2 dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full dose. I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes up. And if I am having a really bad reaction to something I have eaten, it often feels like a mixture of a panic attack plus a really bad reaction to the food (with a high heart rate, etc.) Has anyone done IV chelation? How long has it taken to notice any positive results from it. I know the magnesium in the solution helps for that particular day, but I am talking about making the arteries better..... Thanks. Any advice from anyone - or experience in dealing with these things. Thanks so much Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear Carol, It is not an arteries issue. They are just responding to the stimulus they receive from the kidneys. High blood pressure: flax oil Clogged arteries: nattokinase Allergies: liver cleanse Of course, taking magnesium and calcium daily is also important. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman high blood pressure / arteries Dear Saul & group, I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder about the state of my arteries. I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure only ends up with a higher blood pressure. Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a " 1/2 dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full dose. I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes up. And if I am having a really bad reaction to something I have eaten, it often feels like a mixture of a panic attack plus a really bad reaction to the food (with a high heart rate, etc.) Has anyone done IV chelation? How long has it taken to notice any positive results from it. I know the magnesium in the solution helps for that particular day, but I am talking about making the arteries better..... Thanks. Any advice from anyone - or experience in dealing with these things. Thanks so much Carol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: 07/11/09 17:56:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Getting control of your insulin will do a lot. Specifically a low or no-carb diet. You will see within a week, but you MUST not rationalize about carbs. Suggest books by the Eades " The Protein Power Lifeplan by R. Eades and Dan Eades " http://tinyurl.com/lxvdzq Chuck If work were so wonderful, the rich would keep it all for themselves > Dear Saul & group, > > I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder > about the state of my arteries. > > I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few > years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like > my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but > not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure > only ends up with a higher blood pressure. > > Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started > back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions > about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time > per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a > " 1/2 > dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full > dose. > > I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in > the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause > an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I > have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated > heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes > up. And if ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2283 - Release Date: 08/05/09 05:57:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Garlic, cayenne and hawthorne will not only bring your blood pressure down but clean your arteries. Acupuncture is great too. If you want to do EDTA chelation, you should use suppositories. Orally, you get 5% uptake, IV you get 100%, but it's much more expensive and cumbersome. with supporitories, you get 95%, and you can do it in your own home. See www.calcify.com If you want to make your own suppositories intead of buying the ones they sell, use coconut oil as your medium. It's about 90% cheaper. high blood pressure / arteries > Dear Saul & group, > > I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder > about the state of my arteries. > > I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few > years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like > my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but > not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure > only ends up with a higher blood pressure. > > Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started > back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions > about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time > per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a " 1/2 > dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full dose. > > I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in > the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause > an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I > have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated > heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes > up. And if I am having a really bad reaction to something I have > eaten, it often feels like a mixture of a panic attack plus a really > bad reaction to the food (with a high heart rate, etc.) > > Has anyone done IV chelation? How long has it taken to notice any > positive results from it. I know the magnesium in the solution helps > for that particular day, but I am talking about making the arteries > better..... Thanks. > > Any advice from anyone - or experience in dealing with these things. > > Thanks so much > Carol > > > > ------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear Saul & Group, Thanks for the replies. Saul - some questions --> re: nattokinase - what brand and/or type and how much? re: flax oil - I am assuming any refrigerated type; how much? Also - thanks for the reminder about more of the liver flushes. I have only done a couple. Thanks, Carol >To: <oxyplus > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 >X-Originating-IP: 64.114.228.52 >X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 > >X-Yahoo-Profile: ozonetherapy >Sender: oxyplus >Mailing-List: list oxyplus ; contact >oxyplus-owner >Delivered-To: mailing list oxyplus >List-Id: <oxyplus.yahoogroups.com> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribe > >Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:52:35 -0700 >Subject: Re: high blood pressure / arteries >Reply-To: oxyplus > > >Dear Carol, > >It is not an arteries issue. >They are just responding to the stimulus they receive from the kidneys. > >High blood pressure: flax oil >Clogged arteries: nattokinase >Allergies: liver cleanse > >Of course, taking magnesium and calcium daily is also important. > >Best of Health! >Dr. Saul Pressman > high blood pressure / arteries > >Dear Saul & group, > >I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder >about the state of my arteries. > >I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few >years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like >my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but >not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure >only ends up with a higher blood pressure. > >Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started >back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions >about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time >per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a " 1/2 >dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full dose. > >I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in >the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause >an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I >have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated >heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes >up. And if I am having a really bad reaction to something I have >eaten, it often feels like a mixture of a panic attack plus a really >bad reaction to the food (with a high heart rate, etc.) > >Has anyone done IV chelation? How long has it taken to notice any >positive results from it. I know the magnesium in the solution helps >for that particular day, but I am talking about making the arteries >better..... Thanks. > >Any advice from anyone - or experience in dealing with these things. > >Thanks so much >Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear Carol, Ask at your health food store. They will have an idea about the brands they carry. For flax oil, 2 oz per day usually works. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman high blood pressure / arteries > >Dear Saul & group, > >I have been having problems with high blood pressure, and wonder >about the state of my arteries. > >I think it has to do with age and stress levels in the last few >years. I have also noticed myself feeling anxious when I feel like >my blood pressure is up. Usually taking magnesium helps with it, but >not always. So adding anxiety to my already elevated blood pressure >only ends up with a higher blood pressure. > >Could you tell me - what has worked for you? I have just started >back to IV chelation - EDTA. I had done it for about 17 sessions >about 2 years ago. Now the doctor is suggesting 10 sessions (1 time >per week), and re-evaluating. I had gotten what they called a " 1/2 >dose " of chelation. I am now asking them to work me up to the full dose. > >I have been under tremendous stress for the last 6 years - more so in >the last 4 years. I have noticed that my reactions to things cause >an elevated blood pressure now instead of an elevated heart rate. I >have had allergies for years, and I used to just get an elevated >heart rate to things. Now I notice that my blood pressure goes >up. And if I am having a really bad reaction to something I have >eaten, it often feels like a mixture of a panic attack plus a really >bad reaction to the food (with a high heart rate, etc.) > >Has anyone done IV chelation? How long has it taken to notice any >positive results from it. I know the magnesium in the solution helps >for that particular day, but I am talking about making the arteries >better..... Thanks. > >Any advice from anyone - or experience in dealing with these things. > >Thanks so much >Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 how do you make the suppositories solid enough to shove up in there a ways? capsules? can you just dissolve the EDTA in water, put it in a large syringe with a tube and catheter tip, and shoot it in? > Re: high blood pressure / arteries > > Garlic, cayenne and hawthorne will not only bring your blood > pressure down > but clean your arteries. Acupuncture is great too. > If you want to do EDTA chelation, you should use > suppositories. Orally, you > get 5% uptake, IV you get 100%, but it's much more expensive > and cumbersome. > with supporitories, you get 95%, and you can do it in your > own home. See > www.calcify.com > If you want to make your own suppositories intead of buying > the ones they > sell, use coconut oil as your medium. It's about 90% cheaper. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Coconut oil/butter is liquid at room temperature, so you keep them in the fridge. Re: high blood pressure / arteries >> >> Garlic, cayenne and hawthorne will not only bring your blood >> pressure down >> but clean your arteries. Acupuncture is great too. >> If you want to do EDTA chelation, you should use >> suppositories. Orally, you >> get 5% uptake, IV you get 100%, but it's much more expensive >> and cumbersome. >> with supporitories, you get 95%, and you can do it in your >> own home. See >> www.calcify.com >> If you want to make your own suppositories intead of buying >> the ones they >> sell, use coconut oil as your medium. It's about 90% cheaper. >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 you make them to look like big bullets. pointy on one end flat on the other and shove them up with your finger pushing on the flat end. cocoanut oil will harden in the fridge or you could use cocoa butter like the Detoxamins. these are quite expensive. I would make a mold and mix the oil, either one, then chill them. The cocoa butter actually is what Detoxamin uses and it stays solid at room temp. Subject: RE: high blood pressure / arteries To: oxyplus Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:48 AM how do you make the suppositories solid enough to shove up in there a ways? capsules? can you just dissolve the EDTA in water, put it in a large syringe with a tube and catheter tip, and shoot it in? > Re: high blood pressure / arteries > > Garlic, cayenne and hawthorne will not only bring your blood > pressure down > but clean your arteries. Acupuncture is great too. > If you want to do EDTA chelation, you should use > suppositories. Orally, you > get 5% uptake, IV you get 100%, but it's much more expensive > and cumbersome. > with supporitories, you get 95%, and you can do it in your > own home. See > www.calcify. com > If you want to make your own suppositories intead of buying > the ones they > sell, use coconut oil as your medium. It's about 90% cheaper. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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