Re: - Lawrenceville, GA

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Hi

. I live in Atlanta. I used to get my milk from a cow share it maybe the same one I’m

guessing. I can tell you the pet milk is SO much better than the cow share milk!!!!!

The pet milk is from a grade A dairy that cools there milk right when it leave

the cow and the milk lasts much longer! The other milk that I got wasn’t

and only lasted about ½ as long. You can email me off list. I set up a

drop in our area in south Atlanta for pet milk.

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Lawrenceville, GA

Hi, My name is . micandme97juno I live in

Lawrenceville,

GA a suburb of Atlanta, in Gwinnett county. I'm researching more info

about raw milk. I've found a cow share farm and a farm that sells raw

milk for non-human consumption. I'm leaning toward going with a cow

share, since it seems to be the more " ethical " way to go.

But I need a lot of information about handling and using raw milk. My

son has some problems with eczema, and low weight gain. He's extremely

healthy, but has an occasional bout with diarrhea. When we use organic

milk (sooo expensive) he seems to be a little better. I'd like to make

my own butter and just in general am interested in eating more healthy

and naturally. I don't feel that all technology is bad by any means, but

I'd really like to cut back on processed, and " tampered " with foods.

I

make as much as I can from scratch and use organic produce and flour when

I can. The cost is often prohibitive for us as we have 3 children, I'm a

SAHM and my husband is a Christian school teacher.

So, my first question how much milk will have how much cream to make how

much butter? Just a general idea, I know it's not always the same. And

if anyone knows of a good source in Gwinnett Co. GA, please holler!

Thanks!

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Hi, ,

Welcome to RawDairy!

You wrote:

" I make as much as I can from scratch and use organic produce and flour when I can. The cost is often prohibitive for us as we have 3 children, I'm a

SAHM and my husband is a Christian school teacher. "

I am also a SAHM mom, and what I've discovered is " real food " (especially real dairy) costs the SAME as garbage!

For these reasons:

1. My kids eat less now, because they are more satisfied. Real milk, home milled grains, mean I don't have kids in the kitchen every two hours asking for food! I sometimes give them a wholesome breakfast and then don't hear from anyone about hunger until 1:30 in the afternoon. They are healthier, and my formerly overweight daughter lost 35 pounds, just eating real food.

2. We have not been to a doctor in almost 3 years for illness of any sort. No more asthma, allergies or infections. Big savings!

3. By " shopping the outside aisles " I just plain don't buy as much food. I spend the same amount without clipping coupons (coupons are only printed for garbage), without buying cheap " filler foods " (2 cents of wheat becomes 1.99 " pasta " ) and just not buying things like juice and soda. My kids drink milk water and occasionally tea or coffee. Oh! And lots of home made cocoa made with gently warmed raw milk.

4. Considering fast food, junk food and quick food " not an option " means I have to be way more creative in the kitchen, but it also means big savings. Little stuff that I used to allow " now and then " is now absolutely, positively never - and those occasional burgers, granola bars and cheese crackers added up more than I would have believed. But we now consider home fried sweet potatoes with ground meat " lunch " - pretty quick and easy.

5. We have found that God is honoring our choices in dramatic ways!

" Shopping the outside aisles " means I only buy meat, vegetables in season, dairy (especially eggs) as the main food. The only things I buy from the inner aisles of the store are legumes and whole grains (NOT whole grain products!), dried fruit and nuts, coffee, tea, pressed oils and paper products. If something has " Ingredients " I don't buy it, unless the only other ingredient is " salt " or " oil " (such as in cheese).

I save so much by not buying things like: pasta, crackers, bread, dry cereal, juice. Obviously, buying through co-ops and such helps, too.

I wish you well as you perhaps seek to obey the Lord, as in Isaiah 55:2

" Why spend money on what is not bread,

and your labor on what does not satisfy?

Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good,

and your soul will delight in the richest of fare. " (NIV)

Blessings!

Laurie Ann

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I would love some specifics about how you do this. I've been getting

all groceries and paper products for about $150/month and now since

moving to this area where EVERYTHING is more expensive, we've upped

our budget to $300/month. We used to live in MI where you could get

apples in season for free because they had so many (and everyone knew

someone) and corn for $1.50/dozen. Oh, do I miss that!

I don't see how paying $3 a dozen for eggs that are $1 for the

cheapies and $5/gallon of milk instead of $3/gallon can ever pay off

financially. I rarely buy chips/crackers/cookies and if I do, I buy

the Walmart $1 ones. I know they're terrible for us, but I don't

always have time to make cookies, muffins, snacks, etc., so we know

there has to be a trade off. Oh, the other one is the meat... 3lb of

frozen chicken breast for $7 at walmart... I know it's not the good

stuff, but the good stuff is 3 times that. Or beef. I do get the

lower fat, but still go for the cheaper, lower quality meat. I don't

buy any frozen or prepared meals... occasionally I do buy boxed mac

and cheese and that is IT. I keep that on hand for the busy days and

last-minute meals.

I'm homeschooling my k5 and 1st grade daughters and I have a (very

PICKY) 21 month old son, so I'm trying desperately to figure out what

and how I can make things from scratch in the middle of our busy days.

I WANT to, I just can't seem to make it work. I've made bread in the

past, and I really would love a grain mill and a Bosch mixer to make

my life easier.

Anyway, we have cut out much of the junk and have been trying to get

by on a low grocery budget. I think this bigger budget should help a

lot, because it IS double from what I used to have to work with, but

even then...

We have cut back on convenience products too to make room in the

budget for food. I use cloth diapers most of the time and make my own

laundry detergent. We have dial-up internet and basic cable (totaling

$25/month) and one cell phone that we share based on who might need it

the most any particular day.

I did want to clarify those things, and I'd just love to hear more

specifics of the day-to-day for you. I am interested in more info

about co-ops nearby, too.

Thanks!

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Hello ,

I live in Pisa, Italy. I have a very very VERY rare

intestinal disorder. I don't absorb fats, they work as

laxatives in my system. I also can't eat transfats

(which also means no frying, unless I fry in coconut

oil) and mono and diglycerides for the same reason.

I have to eat organic because that food has more

omega3s, which are essential and in any case I absorb

them better, and supplement my diet with lecithin and

fermented foods (mainly dairy but not only).

As a result of it all, I've learnt an awful lot on how

to do healthy cooking and I've also learnt a lot on

fermented foods dairy and non.

So whoever is interested in it, just email me offlist

nna

Pisa, Italy

Check my ***NEW*** Blog: http://a-fat-chance.blogspot.com

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" Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have. "

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Could you tell me what a SAHM is?

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/

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Stay at

home mom

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- Lawrenceville, GA



 

Could you tell me what a SAHM is?

Debbie Chikousky

Manitoba, Canada

gdchik@...

http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/

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Hi Debbie,

Took me a while to pick up on that also...

SAHM = Stay At Home Mom ;-)

Kathy in Silver Spring, MD

Re: Re: - Lawrenceville, GA

 Could you tell me what a SAHM is?

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipeg beach.com/ chikouskyfarms/

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Aaaah. I am one of those too, Stay at Home Moms that is. Didn't know we had moved up to having our own achronym. Nice to meet you. We have four children and home school two as well as run our farm.

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/

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In the last year we have gone to similar eating patterns. We live in Alaska where everything is expensive! I only buy fruit and vege's that are on sale and usually there is always something on sale. We have a grain mill and buy grain in bulk for bread pancakes and pizza dough. After we quit processed foods it was hard to find something quick for breakfast. Now we have fruit, granola(homemade) and homemade goat milk yogurt or Pancakes with butter and Maple syrup or Fried potatoes (in coconut oil) with free range eggs (our own). Lunch and supper are more challenging. But by just staying away form processed food is saving us money and we find that on the rare occasion that we do eat processed food it makes us sick. We have a samll farm so we have all of our own dairy products (from goats) and eggs and if we wanted meat (all though we eat very little meat).

It is hard to make everything from scratch, but you just have to start with once thing and add things as you can. I have three kids (5 1/2, 4 and 2) and 65 goats, 3 horses, chickens, turkeys cats and dogs and not much time for anything!! Of course my husband helps tremendously but there are days that we get just 5 or 6 hours of sleep and wonder how we are going to survive!

Rhonda

Re: - Lawrenceville, GA

I would love some specifics about how you do this. I've been gettingall groceries and paper products for about $150/month and now sincemoving to this area where EVERYTHING is more expensive, we've uppedour budget to $300/month. We used to live in MI where you could getapples in season for free because they had so many (and everyone knewsomeone) and corn for $1.50/dozen. Oh, do I miss that!I don't see how paying $3 a dozen for eggs that are $1 for thecheapies and $5/gallon of milk instead of $3/gallon can ever pay offfinancially. I rarely buy chips/crackers/cookies and if I do, I buythe Walmart $1 ones. I know they're terrible for us, but I don'talways have time to make cookies, muffins, snacks, etc., so we knowthere has to be a trade off. Oh, the other one is the meat... 3lb offrozen chicken breast for $7 at walmart... I know it's not the goodstuff, but the good stuff is 3 times that. Or beef. I do get thelower fat, but still go for the cheaper, lower quality meat. I don'tbuy any frozen or prepared meals... occasionally I do buy boxed macand cheese and that is IT. I keep that on hand for the busy days andlast-minute meals. I'm homeschooling my k5 and 1st grade daughters and I have a (veryPICKY) 21 month old son, so I'm trying desperately to figure out whatand how I can make things from scratch in the middle of our busy days.I WANT to, I just can't seem to make it work. I've made bread in thepast, and I really would love a grain mill and a Bosch mixer to makemy life easier. Anyway, we have cut out much of the junk and have been trying to getby on a low grocery budget. I think this bigger budget should help alot, because it IS double from what I used to have to work with, buteven then...We have cut back on convenience products too to make room in thebudget for food. I use cloth diapers most of the time and make my ownlaundry detergent. We have dial-up internet and basic cable (totaling$25/month) and one cell phone that we share based on who might need itthe most any particular day. I did want to clarify those things, and I'd just love to hear morespecifics of the day-to-day for you. I am interested in more infoabout co-ops nearby, too.Thanks!

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We moved to our farm twelve years ago October 15. The move was to achieve family health and my sanity. Couldn't take raising children in the city. No freedom and way too expensive. Don't take this the wrong way Rhonda but I am glad to hear that someone else gets sick when they eat other than real food now. I was ill for three days after our sons graduation in June. I wasn't sick, like fever etc, just everything I ate didn't stick around long and I was so tired. Then I figured it out that it was sugar. What is a new challenge now is that our son has finished high school and wants to start to explore his own life and has the same problems I do. I wonder how other families are dealing with this situation in Canada in particular where it is very hard to find raw milk. For now the mom in me is really happy cause it just keeps him closer to home but the reality is that one day they do have to move. I keep thinking of what happened to Jordan Rubin when he went away to college.

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/

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Hi Deb,

We are now starting this process. My son told us this weekend he and 3 other friends are moving in together in another town about an hour or so away.

He has never had store bought milk other than in coffee or tea. He is worried that he wont be able to have the same quality of food and availability to him. So we asked around on the net to the groups I am on to see if anyone was close enough and willing to sell him raw milk and we found someone about 10 minutes away. Now when he doesn't get to come home to get his supply he does have an alternative. What he will be buying isn't Organic as he is used to but it is still raw milk and I am sure he will be better off with that than store bought.

We will supply him with meats from our freezers as I know he cannot afford to buy Organic meats from the city stores. So once a month mom visits are guaranteed<LOL>

We have found a few farmers who we know have fresh foods available year round so will send him there to pick up meats if he cant make it home as well.

huggs

Bev

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> Hi, My name is . micandme97@... I live in Lawrenceville,

> GA a suburb of Atlanta, in Gwinnett county. I'm researching more

info

> about raw milk.

Hi .....Carlton Farms in Rockmart, GA sells milk not for human

consumption and delivers in the Gwinnett area. I'm not sure what you

are meaning by " ethical " way....but Carlton Farms has amazing quality

milk. The folks there are wonderful, as are the girls (cows). I've

been buying my milk there for about 6 months (since they started

selling). You can check them out at www.carltonfarm.com

Good luck,

Patty:)