Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Thanks bj Re: Gender specifics I recall reading at one point that it was more prevalent in boys, but it didn't say it was necessarily worse. Maybe someone else has more info to offer. I've known some girls who've had it pretty bad too, who were terribly disabled by it. So sorry your son is so bad. BJ > > Does anyone know if OCD symptoms are worse in boys and men than females? I have OCD and so does my sister but ours is manageable without meds and meltdowns, my brother had it BAD it crippled his life and now my son sees to have a more severe form of it and I pray he doesnt end up like my brother but i see some of the same things going on with him and it scares me. I am wondering if statistically OCD is worse in males? has this ever been researched? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Do you know what the subtypes are? My son has comorbidity he has OCD,GAD,PANIC,separation anxiety that was all professionally diagnosed. I think you are correct it does seem.the boys get the comorbity which would explain the difference in severity between my sister and I versus my brother, and me and my son. I wonder why that is? Re: Gender specifics It is more common in boys than girls. There are subtypes of OCD - some more severe than others and there are often comorbiditites that make the whole symptom presentation more difficult to deal with. Some of those comorbid conditions are also more prevalent in boys. Bonnie > > Does anyone know if OCD symptoms are worse in boys and men than females? I have OCD and so does my sister but ours is manageable without meds and meltdowns, my brother had it BAD it crippled his life and now my son sees to have a more severe form of it and I pray he doesnt end up like my brother but i see some of the same things going on with him and it scares me. I am wondering if statistically OCD is worse in males? has this ever been researched? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I wonder if these are really considered comorbid diagnoses since they all fall under the umbrella of anxiety disorders.. My dd on the other hand, has bipolar, aspergers, and severe anxiety disorders. As I mentioned before there are plenty of girls, including my dd, who have severe mental health disorders with comorbities who are or have been completely disabled by their disorders. My dd's dad has never been anywhere near as disabled as my dd has been from her illnesses. He also didn't get the comorbities that she did. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 12:55:08 PM Subject: RE: Re: Gender specifics Do you know what the subtypes are? My son has comorbidity he has OCD,GAD,PANIC,separation anxiety that was all professionally diagnosed. I think you are correct it does seem.the boys get the comorbity which would explain the difference in severity between my sister and I versus my brother, and me and my son. I wonder why that is? ------------------------------------ Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisorsare Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoopmembership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ . Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDFtreatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l . IOCDFrecommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDFglossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDFmembership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.compill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I guess there is no way right now of figuring it out not yet at least anyway RE: Re: Gender specifics Do you know what the subtypes are? My son has comorbidity he has OCD,GAD,PANIC,separation anxiety that was all professionally diagnosed. I think you are correct it does seem.the boys get the comorbity which would explain the difference in severity between my sister and I versus my brother, and me and my son. I wonder why that is? ------------------------------------ Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisorsare Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoopmembership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ . Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDFtreatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l .. IOCDFrecommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDFglossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDFmembership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.compill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I agree with what you said. My dd still absolutely has an anxiety disorder even though her bipolar is finally under control. Her anxiety acted different as part of her bipolar but she had plenty of other symptoms of bipolar that were not anxiety related. She also had the restless anxiety from inside as part of her bipolar. She would pace and pace and try to run away from it. She did also have some thought based anxiety with her bipolar but I think that was from what her mind was trying to tell her. Different though than her OCD thoughts. She also had severe social phobia which was part of her aspergers and not her OCD or bipolar, as well as severe generalized anxiety. It isn't fun trying to figure it all out. That is for sure! Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:26:11 PM Subject: Re: Gender specifics What I have recently been told is that when the mood is stable and you still have a group of symptoms that may represent an anxiey disorder, you should be treated for that disorder (obsessive anxiety in our case)- you are thought to have comorbidity. It's hard for me to explain my son's behavior, but there are different qualities to his anxiety and different ways he expresses that anxiety. What I would associate with his mood is that restless anxiety that just comes from the inside (not thought driven). I'm still not clear about it and there is overlap. I have recently been reading about bipolar illness that has anxiety as a major symptom and this does seem to describe what my son goes through. However, there is also a distinctly different anxiety that is responsive to therapeutic intervention. I see this amenable anxiety when he is functioning outside the feared scenario and while he is kind and cooperative in all other areas. The answers are still elusive for me. It could be that the regions of the brain affected by bipolar are the same or near those affected by OCD and other anxieties. Just because more boys are affected than girls does by no means mean that girls can't be as sick. Perhaps it is that they usually aren't or that her phenotype is not sex linked. The whole idea of phenotypes is new and some suggest a continuum or spectrum rather than phenotype. We'll see what the future brings! Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Bonnie, are your son's social issues like the following which is how it is described with bipolar? " However, some of my patients with bipolar disorder have clearly had " cycling " in their social phobia symptoms, that goes right along with their bipolar cycling. They get much more socially anxious at some times than others. Or rather, on some occasions, which can be rare but seem always to coincide with their hypomanic phases, their social phobia virtually disappears. They can talk freely, even in a group, even with strangers. They can walk up and introduce themselves to people they have never met. They can speak up in front of others, which they normally would strictly avoid. Then, when their mood and energy cycle back down again, their social anxiety returns. They avoid social circumstances, and all the anxiety they usually get if in the center of attention, even dealing with the check-out guy in a grocery store line, comes back. " Or, is it not related to the cycles of bipolar? I think that is one way to tell if the social phobia is part of bipolar or something else. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 4:21:59 PM Subject: Re: Gender specifics Matt has that social anxiety too and this is what makes us curious about autism spectrum as well. I have also read some about social snxiety and bipolar???? Bonnie > > I agree with what you said. My dd still absolutely has an anxiety disorder even > > though her bipolar is finally under control. Her anxiety acted different as >part > > of her bipolar but she had plenty of other symptoms of bipolar that were not > anxiety related. She also had the restless anxiety from inside as part of her > bipolar. She would pace and pace and try to run away from it. She did also have > > some thought based anxiety with her bipolar but I think that was from what her > mind was trying to tell her. Different though than her OCD thoughts. She also > had severe social phobia which was part of her aspergers and not her OCD or > bipolar, as well as severe generalized anxiety. It isn't fun trying to figure >it > > all out. That is for sure! Stormy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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