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I am so sorry you and your son are going through this. Tha sounds agonizing.

It sounds like the doctor's treatments are not working, and he needs to go

in a different direction. I think I would insist on an immediate appointment

-- however she can work it in.

You'll be in my thoughts.

Steph in VA

- 16 (OCD, anxiety/depression, Asperger's, NVLD)

> Hi everyone. My sons doc said his suicidal ideations were OCD. Right now

> she wants to work on the panic attacks and transient tic disorder before we

> tackle the ocd. The tics came back out of nowhere he first had them at age

> six and they dissapeared til now hes 14? I always wondered if he had pandas

> due to the strep infections he had and the onset of the tics but the

> bloodwork said negative. Right now he cannot sleep due to the eyeblinking

> and throat clearing tics, doc told him to clench his fist everytime a tic

> occurs that is NOT working. he is having panic attacks a few times a day and

> suicidal ideations all day. The doctor put him on Buspar to try and get rid

> of the panic attacks NOT WORKING I asked her for Ativan for him or Valium

> she refused as these are addicting BUT he is suffering so bad with the

> anxiety and panic I might ask her again next thursday at our appt. he hasnt

> went to school because he is somewhat disabled right now . he has chewed the

> inside of his hands and fingers and is picking the skin off of his feet we

> see the psychologist on the 7th . I hope this will pass he is suffering so

> much.

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Hello,

I wish that life wasn't so hard for you right now. I can understand why a doc

might not want to use Valium or Ativan, but with your son not sleeping I think

it could help. If he can't sleep than anything else you might want to try would

be that much harder. As we all know, it is much more difficult to try harder

things when we are exhausted from not sleeping. It's also hard to imagine that

a dose of Activan at night (or other sleeping aid) would hurt or lead to an

addiction. Both you and your kiddo next some relief!

Best,

Joni

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I'm glad he feels too that the thoughts are OCD. I know others here have kids

with tics (or may have some themselves) so maybe they can comment on the fist

clench thing (hadn't heard of that).

If you're willing to try supplements, since doc not willing to try your

suggestions (did she prescribe anything to replace Buspar??), was wondering if

you've tried melatonin for helping with sleep?

Inositol powder *might* help with the picking and anxiety some. Or Kali Phos

may help with panic/anxiety. Some have found Native Remedy products help.

I've read magnesium helps some with tics (you can google about it).

If you do try any supplements, just try one at a time so you will not what's

helping or effecting negatively.

Is he on any SSRI med for OCD?

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> Hi everyone. My sons doc said his suicidal ideations were OCD. Right now she

wants to work on the panic attacks and transient tic disorder before we tackle

the ocd. The tics came back out of nowhere he first had them at age six and they

dissapeared til now hes 14? I

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Our son also had panic attacks. I think they were associated with his GAD.

Once the GAD was under control, and the OCD was being worked on, so the anxiety

associated with that was better too, the panic attacks ceased.

I can't help but second guess the therapist and think the OCD thoughts should be

worked on first, thinking it might make the panic attacks less.

Most doctors are very reluctant to prescribe benzodizapines because of the

addictive risk, but most psychiatrists do not share that concern. Sometimes the

meds are needed, but yes they should not be used regularly, but as needed, to

lessen that risk.

Why Buspar and not an SSRI antidepressant?

What are the tics attributed to? Does the doc think Tourettes? Or OCD related?

Sorry you are going through such a rough time of it. We've been there and life

is horrible when things are that bad. :o(

Has your son tried any deep diaphragmatic breathing? I talked our son through

it when he was having panic attacks. It works much faster than medication.

But, we also used Klonipin, as needed, until his Celexa reached a beneficial

level.

BJ

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> Hi everyone. My sons doc said his suicidal ideations were OCD. Right now she

wants to work on the panic attacks and transient tic disorder before we tackle

the ocd. The tics came back out of nowhere he first had them at age six and they

dissapeared til now hes 14? I always wondered if he had pandas due to the strep

infections he had and the onset of the tics but the bloodwork said negative.

Right now he cannot sleep due to the eyeblinking and throat clearing tics, doc

told him to clench his fist everytime a tic occurs that is NOT working. he is

having panic attacks a few times a day and suicidal ideations all day. The

doctor put him on Buspar to try and get rid of the panic attacks NOT WORKING I

asked her for Ativan for him or Valium she refused as these are addicting BUT he

is suffering so bad with the anxiety and panic I might ask her again next

thursday at our appt. he hasnt went to school because he is somewhat disabled

right now . he has chewed the inside of his hands and fingers and is picking the

skin off of his feet we see the psychologist on the 7th . I hope this will pass

he is suffering so much.

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