Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Thank you! That is very encouraging. May I ask what helped your daughter recover? I have experienced severe depression and anxiety, and I have tried to reassure my daughter by telling her that one DOES learn to recognize the signs before things get unbearable again. I think part of her attitude is that she believes things will definitely, in time, get back to the lowest point (when she could no longer bear to live) -- she doesn't see a permanent way out. Obviously I can't promise her a " cure " -- but I have a good life partly because I can recognize the signs that I'm worsening and ask to have meds adjusted and get support before the train completely jumps off the tracks.:-) Steph in Staunton, VA > > Steph: > > Hi. We are also in VA (VaBeach area). My daughter was diagnosed at 13yrs > with OCD. She turned 20yrs on May 1st and has been away at college for > two years now and is doing well. Please tell your daughter that there is > hope... there is a light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. Every now & > then we see some OCD issues try to break through... but thank God she knows > what the signs are and knows what to watch for - as we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Thank you, Pamela. Your post is very encouraging. My daughter's doc has recommended a DBT therapist, and I am becoming increasingly interested in pursuing that instead of CBT, for now. What I have gleaned from this list is that many kids benefit from doing DBT first, so they can learn to better manage their pain before delving into therapies like ERP which can -- emotionally -- be quite difficult. The decision will probably come down to meeting the therapist and deciding whether she's a good fit. -- Steph > > I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's suffering and your suffering too. I too hope and pray she gets better. > > There is Dialectrical Behavior Therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Steph, I can offer you an encouraging story. My dd is now 20 and is doing very well. She is finishing up her 2nd year of college. She also was suicidal and was severely ill. She wasn't even able to attend school from 15-18 because she was too disabled and nonfunctional. For her, the right med combination is critical. She also spent 2 months in an intensive inpatient treatment center which was life changing for her and also saved her life. It doesn't sound like your dd has really received the recommended therapy for OCD which is probably contributing to her depressions. I know you said there isn't anything in your area, but there are treatment centers that can be life changing if you think she is severe enough. People go from all over the country to them. My dd's was 2,000 miles from our home. Just something to consider, if things get bad again. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 8:32:05 AM Subject: Re: Heartsick Moment Thank you! That is very encouraging. May I ask what helped your daughter recover? I have experienced severe depression and anxiety, and I have tried to reassure my daughter by telling her that one DOES learn to recognize the signs before things get unbearable again. I think part of her attitude is that she believes things will definitely, in time, get back to the lowest point (when she could no longer bear to live) -- she doesn't see a permanent way out. Obviously I can't promise her a " cure " -- but I have a good life partly because I can recognize the signs that I'm worsening and ask to have meds adjusted and get support before the train completely jumps off the tracks.:-) Steph in Staunton, VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Thanks, Stormy! I assume you're talking about long term residential treatment? We haven't yet gotten to that point, and we still have a few local treatment options to consider. But it is comforting to know there are other options, because I don't know what the future holds. S. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Stormy W wrote: > Steph, I can offer you an encouraging story. My dd is now 20 and is doing > very > well. She is finishing up her 2nd year of college. She also was suicidal > and was > severely ill. She wasn't even able to attend school from 15-18 because she > was > too disabled and nonfunctional. For her, the right med combination is > critical. > She also spent 2 months in an intensive inpatient treatment center which > was > life changing for her and also saved her life. It doesn't sound like your > dd has > really received the recommended therapy for OCD which is probably > contributing > to her depressions. I know you said there isn't anything in your area, but > there > are treatment centers that can be life changing if you think she is severe > enough. People go from all over the country to them. My dd's was 2,000 > miles > from our home. Just something to consider, if things get bad again. Stormy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Steph, She is the same.She can have a few good days or hours , but it's always there.She is in her room right now. She has been in there all day, and there is nothing I can do or say to get her to come out, Nothing interests her.  I hope things get better for your daughter! Hugs Judy > Hi Steph, > I haven't posted in ages. I have been working and going to college, so I > don't have much time , but your post sounds like one I could have written > myself about my 14 year old daughter, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I am talking about treatment centers that are a couple of months or more on length. (My dd's was for 60 days but was intensive inpatient as opposed to residential.) I must have misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you had said your dd hasn't received CBT or ERP because it wasn't available in your area. I am glad there are further options in your area for you to explore and hopefully she won't need something to the extent that my dd did. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 12:09:20 PM Subject: Re: Re: Heartsick Moment Thanks, Stormy! I assume you're talking about long term residential treatment? We haven't yet gotten to that point, and we still have a few local treatment options to consider. But it is comforting to know there are other options, because I don't know what the future holds. S. Recent Activity: * New Members 8 Visit Your Group Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisorsare Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoopmembership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ . Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDFtreatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l . IOCDFrecommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDFglossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDFmembership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.compill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex . MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. & amp;<SPAN id= " misspell-14 " class= " mark " >lt</SPAN>;<SPAN id= " misspell-15 " class= " mark " >img</SPAN> width= " 1 " height= " 1 " alt= " " & amp;gt; ________________________________ Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today! & amp;<SPAN id= " misspell-18 " class= " mark " >lt</SPAN>;<SPAN id= " misspell-19 " class= " mark " >img</SPAN> width= " 1 " height= " 1 " alt= " " & amp;gt; Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I am sorry, Judy. That sounds devastating, though not unfamiliar. I hope you find a therapeutic path that works for her soon. (((Hugs))) Steph > Steph, > She is the same.She can have a few good days or hours , but it's always > there.She is in her room right now. She has been in there all day, and there > is nothing I can do or say to get her to come out, Nothing interests her. > > I hope things get better for your daughter! > Hugs > Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 You're right -- she hasn't received CBT or ERP -- it's hard to find around here. At this point, we're investigating Dialetical Behavior Therapy as an alternative ... at least for now. I didn't know the difference between inpatient and residential. I'm sure the separation is difficult for a family, though in your case, well worth it since it was life changing for her. It's certainly something we'll consider if it becomes necessary. Steph On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Stormy W wrote: > I am talking about treatment centers that are a couple of months or more on > length. (My dd's was for 60 days but was intensive inpatient as opposed to > residential.) I must have misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you > had > said your dd hasn't received CBT or ERP because it wasn't available in your > area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Intensive inpatient is different, but there aren't many of those around, if any anymore. Unfortunately, my dd's anxiety program had to switch to a residential program at a different location because of the economic crises. The intensive inpatient was extremely expensive (over $170,000 for 60 days) and people were having trouble paying for it, but it was a wonderful program. It didn't look like a hospital at all as it was on a ranch. She really enjoyed equine therapy and the surroundings. They still have their eating disorders program inpatient but not the anxiety program which I think may also be now only for 18 and over. When my dd was in the inpatient program it was for ages 8 and up. Residential was recommended for her as a step down. We chose to bring her home at that point instead of having her go to residential, as 2 months away already felt like a lot. If needed in the future for your dd I hear has an excellent program. DBT is good probably more for the depression for your dd, though they did use DBT at my dd's inpatient as well as CBT and ERP. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 12:52:30 PM Subject: Re: Re: Heartsick Moment You're right -- she hasn't received CBT or ERP -- it's hard to find around here. At this point, we're investigating Dialetical Behavior Therapy as an alternative ... at least for now. I didn't know the difference between inpatient and residential. I'm sure the separation is difficult for a family, though in your case, well worth it since it was life changing for her. It's certainly something we'll consider if it becomes necessary. Steph On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Stormy W wrote: > I am talking about treatment centers that are a couple of months or more on > length. (My dd's was for 60 days but was intensive inpatient as opposed to > residential.) I must have misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you > had > said your dd hasn't received CBT or ERP because it wasn't available in your > area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Steph, So sorry to hear that your daughter is having such trouble. My daughter also is 16 & has long standing OCD. I just found this board a few days ago after a horrendous episode of OCD, including suicidal type threats (like " It would be better if I was dead " ). I think I saw some posts that you don't have many treatment options near you. If that's the case, the OCD Foundation's treatment provider site helped us when we looked for a dr. http://www.ocfoundation.org/findproviders.aspx When we looked, there was exactly 1 dr. that treated OCD in children in our area. Searching again, still there is only 1 here. Hope you find a great dr. to help you soon. My daughter has had very low times too, but better times come also. I hope your daughter finds the strength to hang on & get better. I understand how frustrating & helpless it feels to see a daughter with so much going for her, waste her time feeling sad and overcome by OCD. Hope better times are ahead for all of us. Dot > > My 16-year-old daughter, who was hospitalized for suicidal depression and anxiety a year ago, is doing better with her OCD right now. In fact, she's made enormous strides in the past year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 How difficult....I think OCD in the teen years are hard because of all the mixing with the darn OCD... Don't forget..... Its always darkest before the dawn.... Unfortunately there have been several recent teen suicides in our small town lately....I often thought if a vulnerable teen would spend time with one of these families that lost their children...would it have an impact? I don't believe teens understand forever and unfortunately they are so impulsive...I think suicide to them means - a place where they can exist without pain - they don't realize, I'm convinced -the finality of it all-as well as the pain left for the family thats left behind. (They often feel that it would be better for the family) If they could see it's not...If they could see the mother I see in the grocery store - she's aged 20 years in one month...that pain will never go away. Just a thought - You are doing a good job by modeling positive thoughts - because she's not in a place to have them right now...but it won't always be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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