Re: How do you keep yourself together?

[Guest guest]

I know what you're going through. My daughter with OCD is 14 and I also have a

17 year old. It's awful how the whole family is affected. Everyone gets so tired

- and we're always on edge wondering what is going to set her off.

I mentioned a few posts back how we learnt to deal with our evenings. We almost

always get enough sleep now, because we make our daughter start to get ready for

bed at 8pm.

We have been going quite well, but had a lapse about a week ago too. We felt

like we were really getting somewhere, and then suddenly we were back where we

started - almost. It's like 3 steps forward-2 steps back.

We're all going to get through this eventually - aren't we?

Well, just as I wrote this she came screaming into the room because her dad

accidentally used her headphones. Oh lordy...better go and deal with this.

C-O-N-T-A-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N...deep breaths everybody :-(

Jo

>

> As a mom of 13yr old son with OCD..... Its midnight -he's been trying to go to

sleep for over 3 hours....Rituals are bossing him around & he says he is running

out of hope & tired of trying....Just two weeks ago he was doing so well! It

comes back with fast and furious doesn't it?

>

> Night after night of this is draining, plus I feel guilty spending so much

time with him and not my 16 yr old daughter....I'm feel like I spend every

minute trying to keep him together...I just wonder how I'm supposed to keep

myself together?

>

> - the OCD issues is slowing erroding the entire family...

>

> I'd welcome your advice...

>

[Guest guest]

I’m sorry that you aren’t getting any sleep. It is so crucial esp. when

dealing with sick kids.

My dd also has trouble sleeping because of OCD. The OCD is caused by PANDAS and

unfortunately Lyme Disease so I want to mention that you might look into an

infectious cause for the OCD so you can get to the root of the problem, BUT, in

the meantime, what can you do to help him sleep?

We have used Melatonin in the past but when she’s really bad, it doesn’t

help enough. Also can try Benedryl. We’ve also used Ativan which reduces

anxiety and is a mild sedative. It makes her sleepy enough to let the thoughts

go.

Dealing with a child with OCD is very difficult. They are sick and need your

help. You can only do the best you can do. Try to spend some one on one with

your daughter from time to time but know that you are doing your best and

sometimes, even if it isn’t what you want it to be, it’s the best that you

can do. She will be okay if she knows you love her and would do the same thing

for her if she needed you.

Hang in there.

[Guest guest]

Wish I had some good advice on this. We have the same issues - as far as OCD

negatively affecting the whole family. None of us have much social life now. I

have to make time to spend with my other daughter, but it's hard when I'm so

exhausted from the OCD child. I try to spend some time on things I want to do

alone & with the other family members, to recharge. I try not to freak out

myself & get overwhelmed by thinking about the future of this disease. The

bottom line is, when the OCD is better, the whole family is better. When it's

bad, I just want to cry. For us, it's gone on much longer than I ever thought it

would.

Dot

>

> As a mom of 13yr old son with OCD..... Its midnight -he's been trying to go to

sleep for over 3 hours....Rituals are bossing him around & he says he is running

out of hope & tired of trying....Just two weeks ago he was doing so well! It

comes back with fast and furious doesn't it?

>

> Night after night of this is draining, plus I feel guilty spending so much

time with him and not my 16 yr old daughter....I'm feel like I spend every

minute trying to keep him together...I just wonder how I'm supposed to keep

myself together?

>

> - the OCD issues is slowing erroding the entire family...

>

> I'd welcome your advice...

>

[Guest guest]

For us it's a work in progress also. Very exhausting! The other children in our

family that do not have OCD, get so burned out on dealing with OCD day after

day. Our dd has so many separation anxiety issues it's a struggle to get a

break. I keep trying to find a way to find a job outside the house but right

now I think it would set her OCD back ....so that won't be happening. It is

definitely a balance between living your life and them controlling your life.

> >

> > As a mom of 13yr old son with OCD..... Its midnight -he's been trying to go

to sleep for over 3 hours....Rituals are bossing him around & he says he is

running out of hope & tired of trying....Just two weeks ago he was doing so

well! It comes back with fast and furious doesn't it?

> >

> > Night after night of this is draining, plus I feel guilty spending so much

time with him and not my 16 yr old daughter....I'm feel like I spend every

minute trying to keep him together...I just wonder how I'm supposed to keep

myself together?

> >

> > - the OCD issues is slowing erroding the entire family...

> >

> > I'd welcome your advice...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is SO hard and yes, you feel guilty for spending so much time and energy with

one and letting OCD boss the whole family around. To some degree it does, but

remember to model what you teach- fight OCD back and take time for yourself to

go for a walk or have coffee with friends or work out. Have dates with you

other daughter. Tell him that you can see that his OCD is bossing him around,

and it is trying to boss you and the family around, but the only way to get it

to go away is to push back and you for one WILL NOT be bossed around by his OCD

and give it all your timne an attention. You are willing to help him

indefinately in activities that actively fight OCD, but not in ones that cower

to it. Then get him some really good help with CBT/ ERP and a psychiatrist to

discuss meds.

Good luck. We all understand that feeling as no one else can.

[Guest guest]

Try something new... Diet change, meds, supplements, etc.. You can't keep going

like this.. I have two daughters with OCD and it was slowly killing me.. I

couldn't take another day.. They also both have Asperger's Syndrome (and I have

a 3rd daughter who also has Asperger's, but not OCD).. We did all three of the

things I mentioned (diet, meds, & supps) and I now have my daughters back..  No

OCD symptoms at this time.. AND they are both weaned from their meds now so diet

and supps alone are keeping things under control for them.  Things are great

these days!!

The 1st supplement you should get is melatonin.. It sounds like he needs help

shutting his brain down for sleep.  Melatonin will help.  We used to use

melatonin regularly when we were at the height of our issues.. Now we only use

it occassionally when we get off schedule and need help getting back on.  We

use

the 1mg cherry-flavored sublingual tabs from GNC.  Puts them to sleep within

30

minutes as long as lights are out.

Misty

________________________________

To:

Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:57:22 PM

Subject: How do you keep yourself together?

 

As a mom of 13yr old son with OCD..... Its midnight -he's been trying to go to

sleep for over 3 hours....Rituals are bossing him around & he says he is running

out of hope & tired of trying....Just two weeks ago he was doing so well! It

comes back with fast and furious doesn't it?

Night after night of this is draining, plus I feel guilty spending so much time

with him and not my 16 yr old daughter....I'm feel like I spend every minute

trying to keep him together...I just wonder how I'm supposed to keep myself

together?

- the OCD issues is slowing erroding the entire family...

I'd welcome your advice...

[Guest guest]

Misty,

Could you please describe how you use diet and supplements to treat your

daughters?

My 16 y/o with OCD & Asperger's takes L-Tyrosine (we were also using 5-HTP,

but I read they shouldn't be mixed with SSRIs -- she uses Luvox, among other

things). I've also started giving her flax oil (for Omega 3) and trying to

ease into a more whole foods diet. The information out there is so varied

(and sometimes overwhelming) that I'm not sure I'm on the right track.

My hope is that she can eventually decrease the amount of meds she takes,

especially because of the side effects (fatigue, excessive sleeping, and

serious weight gain).

Some years ago, she had extensive testing for food sensitivities, and it

revealed nothing, so I haven't ried a gluten free diet or anything like

that.

Any advice from this group is welcome!

Steph in Va

> Try something new... Diet change, meds, supplements, etc.. You can't keep

> going

> like this.. I have two daughters with OCD and it was slowly killing me.. I

> couldn't take another day.. They also both have Asperger's Syndrome (and I

> have

> a 3rd daughter who also has Asperger's, but not OCD).. We did all three of

> the

> things I mentioned (diet, meds, & supps) and I now have my daughters

> back.. No

> OCD symptoms at this time.. AND they are both weaned from their meds now so

> diet

> and supps alone are keeping things under control for them. Things are

> great

> these days!!

>

> The 1st supplement you should get is melatonin.. It sounds like he needs

> help

> shutting his brain down for sleep. Melatonin will help. We used to use

> melatonin regularly when we were at the height of our issues.. Now we only

> use

> it occassionally when we get off schedule and need help getting back on.

> We use

> the 1mg cherry-flavored sublingual tabs from GNC. Puts them to sleep

> within 30

> minutes as long as lights are out.

>

> Misty

[Guest guest]

Steph,

I would be interested to know EXACTLY what type of food sensitivity testing she

had done.. Which antibodies were being looked at?  Which foods were tested? 

Where did you have it done?

My daughters did food sensitivity testing and it revealed serious sensitivities

to gluten and casein.. One daughter also tested sensitive to soy.. After

removing those foods, a HUGE weight was lifted off of us because so many issues

just disappeared.  I have since learned that I have full blown celiac disease..

So I feel 1000% better since removing gluten from my diet over a year ago. 

Everything that was wrong with me (malabsorption, headaches, muscle aches,

rashes, fatigue, brain fog, etc.) is now GONE.

Anyway, I think you are on the right track with the supplements you are

giving. 

Depending on what type of food sensitivity/allergy testing your daughter had

done, I would consider doing another one.  That is really the #1 thing that

helped my daughters.  Supplements helped, but in our case, diet change was

#1. 

But that is because we are so very sensitive to gluten,etc.. Your daughter may

not be sensitive.. Could be a totally different cause for her (PANDAS, etc..)

Misty

________________________________

To:

Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 4:50:39 PM

Subject: Re: How do you keep yourself together?

 

Misty,

Could you please describe how you use diet and supplements to treat your

daughters?

My 16 y/o with OCD & Asperger's takes L-Tyrosine (we were also using 5-HTP,

but I read they shouldn't be mixed with SSRIs -- she uses Luvox, among other

things). I've also started giving her flax oil (for Omega 3) and trying to

ease into a more whole foods diet. The information out there is so varied

(and sometimes overwhelming) that I'm not sure I'm on the right track.

My hope is that she can eventually decrease the amount of meds she takes,

especially because of the side effects (fatigue, excessive sleeping, and

serious weight gain).

Some years ago, she had extensive testing for food sensitivities, and it

revealed nothing, so I haven't ried a gluten free diet or anything like

that.

Any advice from this group is welcome!

Steph in Va

> Try something new... Diet change, meds, supplements, etc.. You can't keep

> going

> like this.. I have two daughters with OCD and it was slowly killing me.. I

> couldn't take another day.. They also both have Asperger's Syndrome (and I

> have

> a 3rd daughter who also has Asperger's, but not OCD).. We did all three of

> the

> things I mentioned (diet, meds, & supps) and I now have my daughters

> back.. No

> OCD symptoms at this time.. AND they are both weaned from their meds now so

> diet

> and supps alone are keeping things under control for them. Things are

> great

> these days!!

>

> The 1st supplement you should get is melatonin.. It sounds like he needs

> help

> shutting his brain down for sleep. Melatonin will help. We used to use

> melatonin regularly when we were at the height of our issues.. Now we only

> use

> it occassionally when we get off schedule and need help getting back on.

> We use

> the 1mg cherry-flavored sublingual tabs from GNC. Puts them to sleep

> within 30

> minutes as long as lights are out.

>

> Misty

[Guest guest]

We had quite a bit of success with the Failsafe diet

http://fedupwithfoodadditives.info/ It's similar to a few other diets out there,

but looks at more food chemicals than many others do. We found our daughter was

sensitive to amines and MSG-type additives, as well as a blue food colouring.

She obviously still has issues with OCD, but it seems to take the edge off a

bit. I noticed a HUGE difference at first. It's tapered off a bit, but I think I

might just be forgetting how bad it was back then. (and we don't stick to it

very strictly anymore, which doesn't help, but as the dietitian says, it's her

decision. I can't control what she eats outside the home).

I don't buy anything with those chemicals in them now, and we threw out things

like soy sauce, stock cubes, miso, cola and ...chocolate!

It seems like she has a little more tolerance to things when she is on this

diet. If she has a meltdown, it doesn't last as long - and she usually

APOLOGISES afterwards (as she did last night after the headphone incident I

mentioned earlier).

>

> > Try something new... Diet change, meds, supplements, etc.. You can't keep

> > going

> > like this.. I have two daughters with OCD and it was slowly killing me.. I

> > couldn't take another day.. They also both have Asperger's Syndrome (and I

> > have

> > a 3rd daughter who also has Asperger's, but not OCD).. We did all three of

> > the

> > things I mentioned (diet, meds, & supps) and I now have my daughters

> > back.. No

> > OCD symptoms at this time.. AND they are both weaned from their meds now so

> > diet

> > and supps alone are keeping things under control for them. Things are

> > great

> > these days!!

> >

> > The 1st supplement you should get is melatonin.. It sounds like he needs

> > help

> > shutting his brain down for sleep. Melatonin will help. We used to use

> > melatonin regularly when we were at the height of our issues.. Now we only

> > use

> > it occassionally when we get off schedule and need help getting back on.

> > We use

> > the 1mg cherry-flavored sublingual tabs from GNC. Puts them to sleep

> > within 30

> > minutes as long as lights are out.

> >

> > Misty

>

>

[Guest guest]

I came to this group because I was feeling the same way you are. I was so

overwhelmed with the worry, the doctor visits, the therapist visits, the reading

materials, the night rituals, the day rituals, the frustration, anger and even

resentment that I felt like I couldn't get out of bed and battle my son's OCD

one more day. That's when I joined this group, and a lovely woman gave me some

great advice for ME, not my child, which is exactly what I needed at the time.

She told me it was imperative for me to take time for myself, even if it was

just driving the long way home listening to my favorite music, or reading in the

bath. She told me that little indulgences, like chocolate, helped her on the

difficult days, so I bought myself a bag of Cheetos (my favorite guilty

pleasure) and ate them guilt-free on the days that were especially hard. Her

advice pulled me out of the OCD mire, and I became a better supporter for my son

because of it.

So please take time for yourself whenever you can. It's allowed and SO

necessary in your fight against OCD. Those little moments will give you the

strength to keep going, and your whole family will benefit. Good luck and know

that we're all here for you!

Cheri

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this info! And it fits nicely with my goal of moving into a whole

foods diet.

Steph in VA

http://fedupwithfoodadditives.info/

[Guest guest]

I agree whole-heartedly with that! A couple of months ago, when we were still

waiting for treatment, and were having a particularly bad time, I started

leaving the house whenever things got ugly.

I'd go down to an ice cream parlour near our house and get a big ice cream, take

it to the park and eat it while I listened to my favourite music (or some

relaxation podcasts) on my iPod.

My daughter had no idea where I'd gone (although I had my phone so she could

contact me - and her older brother was usually home too), and I'd return home

half an hour later like a guilty teenager, feeling very naughty. It was a real

stress-breaker. Even thinking about it cheered me up sometimes.

Jo (14 year old daughter with OCD)

>

> I came to this group because I was feeling the same way you are. I was so

overwhelmed with the worry, the doctor visits, the therapist visits, the reading

materials, the night rituals, the day rituals, the frustration, anger and even

resentment that I felt like I couldn't get out of bed and battle my son's OCD

one more day. That's when I joined this group, and a lovely woman gave me some

great advice for ME, not my child, which is exactly what I needed at the time.

>

> She told me it was imperative for me to take time for myself, even if it was

just driving the long way home listening to my favorite music, or reading in the

bath. She told me that little indulgences, like chocolate, helped her on the

difficult days, so I bought myself a bag of Cheetos (my favorite guilty

pleasure) and ate them guilt-free on the days that were especially hard. Her

advice pulled me out of the OCD mire, and I became a better supporter for my son

because of it.

>

> So please take time for yourself whenever you can. It's allowed and SO

necessary in your fight against OCD. Those little moments will give you the

strength to keep going, and your whole family will benefit. Good luck and know

that we're all here for you!

>

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

So good not to feel so alone anymore.  No one else understands except this group

what we go through.

[Guest guest]

What do you mean by changing diets?  Is there a diet for kids with OCD?  My kid

has no problem sleeping, so he doesn't need Melatonin, but what are the other

supplements people have found helpful?  I read about one in the book Obsessive

Compulsive Disorder Help for Children and Adolescents called DMG for increased

stress tolerance.  Anyone ever been on that?

[Guest guest]

I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my daughter.

HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that garbage, I

love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

Best

In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

tmrayburn@... writes:

I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we are

at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

> So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

this group what we go through.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

[Guest guest]

I tired anxiety meds,. They are bad for me . too addictive. hard to get off

and I kept needing more. ativan and xanax. Please be careful! Hard to get

off those.

In a message dated 5/31/2011 12:19:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wilma1866@... writes:

Not here. It would make things so much worse. It is so so hard to live

with these kids. I too feel like I am not going to make it some days. I

finally took someting for anxiety. It helps. Perhaps u could???

> I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

> supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my

daughter.

> HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

> their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

> clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that

garbage, I

> love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

> Best

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> tmrayburn@... writes:

>

> I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

> OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we

are

> at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

> predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

>

> >

> > So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

> this group what we go through.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of OCD

w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we are at a

social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo predictable

at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

> So good not to feel so alone anymore.  No one else understands except this

group what we go through.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Paxil is another one that is hard to get off of.. I'm still trying to wean off..

Every time I try, I become a different person.. (not a good person!)

Misty

________________________________

To:

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 11:23:02 PM

Subject: Re: Re: How do you keep yourself together?

 

I tired anxiety meds,. They are bad for me . too addictive. hard to get off

and I kept needing more. ativan and xanax. Please be careful! Hard to get

off those.

In a message dated 5/31/2011 12:19:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wilma1866@... writes:

Not here. It would make things so much worse. It is so so hard to live

with these kids. I too feel like I am not going to make it some days. I

finally took someting for anxiety. It helps. Perhaps u could???

> I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

> supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my

daughter.

> HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

> their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

> clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that

garbage, I

> love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

> Best

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> tmrayburn@... writes:

>

> I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

> OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we

are

> at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

> predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

>

> >

> > So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

> this group what we go through.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Diet has been linked to many of these issues in many cases.. Gluten is a common

issue.

As for supplements, you might try Inositol.

Misty

________________________________

To: " " < >

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 6:34:05 PM

Subject: Re: How do you keep yourself together?

 

What do you mean by changing diets?  Is there a diet for kids with OCD?  My

kid

has no problem sleeping, so he doesn't need Melatonin, but what are the other

supplements people have found helpful?  I read about one in the book Obsessive

Compulsive Disorder Help for Children and Adolescents called DMG for increased

stress tolerance.  Anyone ever been on that?

[Guest guest]

Not here. It would make things so much worse. It is so so hard to live with

these kids. I too feel like I am not going to make it some days. I finally took

someting for anxiety. It helps. Perhaps u could???

> I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

> supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my

daughter.

> HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

> their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

> clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that garbage, I

> love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

> Best

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> tmrayburn@... writes:

>

> I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

> OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we are

> at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

> predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

>

> >

> > So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

> this group what we go through.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What meds. is your child on?

> I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

> supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my

daughter.

> HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

> their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

> clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that garbage, I

> love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

> Best

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> tmrayburn@... writes:

>

> I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

> OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we are

> at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

> predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

>

> >

> > So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

> this group what we go through.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For myself, I have found EFT tapping to be really helpful. This is a

link to a YouTube video where you can tap along. This is a basic one on

fear and worry. Brad Yates has over a hundred guided tapping sequences

that you can tap along with. I find it very calming... At first, it

seems kind of weird and he might look like a multi-level marketing man

trying to sell you something(: but if you stick with it past that

initial impression, I have found that it really can calm my frayed

nerves. I think living with OCD puts you in a permanent state of " fight

or flight " and tapping can help to relieve that a bit.

Sandy

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[Guest guest]

The diet that I've heard of that may help alleviate OCD is the GAPS diet (Gut

and Psychology Syndrome Diet). Not only is it gluten & casein free, it also

eliminates most starches (rice & potatoes) too. The belief is that whole

proteins are not being processed properly (they're entering the blood stream

whole, instead of being broken down into amino acids). The diet is meant to

heal the gut and eliminate yeast build-up, so proteins can be digested properly.

Once the gut is healed, the brain will function more normally.

I haven't tried this diet on my son, as he's 14 and not on board. I've heard

mixed reviews about this diet.

Hope this helps,

Jill

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of this, but if there is anecdotal evidence to back it

up, it's certainly worth considering. It sounds incredibly difficult, though

-- I already have a hard time getting my vegetarian OCD teen to eat a

balanced diet. And she would NOT be on board with this (with no meat, few

starches, and no dairy -- well -- it doesn't leave much :-))

>

>

> The diet that I've heard of that may help alleviate OCD is the GAPS diet

> (Gut and Psychology Syndrome Diet). Not only is it gluten & casein free, it

> also eliminates most starches (rice & potatoes) too. The belief is that

> whole proteins are not being processed properly (they're entering the blood

> stream whole, instead of being broken down into amino acids). The diet is

> meant to heal the gut and eliminate yeast build-up, so proteins can be

> digested properly. Once the gut is healed, the brain will function more

> normally.

>

> I haven't tried this diet on my son, as he's 14 and not on board. I've

> heard mixed reviews about this diet.

>

> Hope this helps,

> Jill

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I do, but it chunks on the lbs.  So, I deal with it through deep breathing

and if needed, quick departure to let data try to handle it.   Do you guys find

out that you have to do things pretty much on your own?  My husband helps out

little to none.  He doesn't want to understand.   I do, more than he.  I have

anxiety, I know how hard it is.  Nothing worse that having a kid have a meltdown

when you are trying to hold it together and try not to have an anxiety attack.

To:

Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:19 AM

Subject: Re: Re: How do you keep yourself together?

Not here. It would make things so much worse. It is so so hard to live with

these kids. I too feel like I am not going to make it some days. I finally took

someting for anxiety. It helps. Perhaps u could???

> I can't cope anymore. Its insanity. I have a good friend who is super

> supportive and he keeps saying I need a better sense of humor about my

daughter.

> HAAAAAAAAA. How do I do that?! Does anyone use paradoxical things with

> their kids? Does it help? I can SOMETIMES. LIke okay, dont; change your

> clothes ever again, no sweat off my back. Okay keep on saving that garbage, I

> love to live like oscar the grouch. is this even possible!

> Best

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/30/2011 8:26:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> tmrayburn@... writes:

>

> I agree! Nobody truly understands until you have been in the trenches of

> OCD w/your child. So many people just assume our dd is " acting up " if we are

> at a social outing and she has an inappropriate meltdown. It can be sooo

> predictable at times and at other times sooo very unpredictable!

>

>

> >

> > So good not to feel so alone anymore. No one else understands except

> this group what we go through.

> >

> >