Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

[Guest guest]

Please try something else other than xanax. IT is highly addictive and

horrible to stop. Exercise yoga. anything but xanax, it's bad enough for an

adult to deal with that. It's not a long term solution for anxiety. Breathing.

weight lifting. running. swimming. anything but anti anxiety meds!

In a message dated 5/3/2011 10:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

@... writes:

Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also

have stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

Issue with 2 of my other sons!

Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said

he wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him,

but don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

But " in the moment " when you're at work and experience it, can't do all those

things. He does do breathing (one of the two).

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> Please try something else other than xanax. IT is highly addictive and

> horrible to stop. Exercise yoga. anything but xanax, it's bad enough for an

> adult to deal with that. It's not a long term solution for anxiety. Breathing.

> weight lifting. running. swimming. anything but anti anxiety meds!

>

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> In a message dated 5/3/2011 10:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> @... writes:

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> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also

> have stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

> Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said

> he wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him,

> but don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

>

> Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

i had anxiety for ten years, was on every anti anxiety med. those things like

exercise .. any kind, will eventually prevent anxiety if they are done on a

regular basis. fish oil is incredible. it has to be high epa and a large dose.

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- Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

But " in the moment " when you're at work and experience it, can't do all those

things. He does do breathing (one of the two).

>

> Please try something else other than xanax. IT is highly addictive and

> horrible to stop. Exercise yoga. anything but xanax, it's bad enough for an

> adult to deal with that. It's not a long term solution for anxiety. Breathing.

> weight lifting. running. swimming. anything but anti anxiety meds!

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2011 10:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> @... writes:

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> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also

> have stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

> Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said

> he wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him,

> but don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

>

> Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

, did you ever get stomach pain and/or throw up? Trying to decide if this

is medical with mine or related to the anxiety.

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> > Please try something else other than xanax. IT is highly addictive and

> > horrible to stop. Exercise yoga. anything but xanax, it's bad enough for an

> > adult to deal with that. It's not a long term solution for anxiety.

Breathing.

> > weight lifting. running. swimming. anything but anti anxiety meds!

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> > In a message dated 5/3/2011 10:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > @ writes:

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> > Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also

> > have stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

> >

> > Issue with 2 of my other sons!

> >

> > Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said

> > he wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave

him,

> > but don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

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> > Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Some reading....Anxiety and gastrointestinal symptoms are very common together.

Xanax or klonopin may be a good short term treatment, but the long term

treatment may be antidepressants and therapy.

http://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/anxiety-stress-and-stomachaches

Bonnie

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> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

> Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said he

wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him, but

don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bonnie. Ugh, just what I need, another son with this type stuff! I told

oldest to talk with other to see if having exact same issues before we go thru

medical/physical checkups with him too. Already had other son checked.

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> > Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

> >

> > Issue with 2 of my other sons!

> >

> > Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said he

wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him, but

don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I think these things work for some people but certainly not everyone. These

definitely didn't work for my dd. stomach pains and vomiting can be part

of anxiety, (as well as digestive problems if that happens to be an issue). If

it is anxiety, he can use other meds that aren't so addictive. My dd had lots of

physical signs of anxiety. He might want to check with his primary doc first

just to make sure there isn't something else going on. Stormy

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Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:55:02 AM

Subject: Re: Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

i had anxiety for ten years, was on every anti anxiety med. those things like

exercise .. any kind, will eventually prevent anxiety if they are done on a

regular basis. fish oil is incredible. it has to be high epa and a large dose.

>

[Guest guest]

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> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

Yes, yes! Major stomachaches with no other explanation- no vomiting though, but

I have heard of that. The stomach is just one big bundle of nerves

[Guest guest]

This is not off topic for this group since OCD is an anxiety disorder. My son,

in addition to OCD, deals with crippling anxiety, occasional panic attacks and

chronic stomach issues. His stomach is upset constantly and varies in degree

according to his generalized anxiety of the time. It affects his appetite,

ability to sleep, he gets alot of gas. But instead of vomiting it manifests

itself as diarrhea. He is on Zoloft for the OCD mostly. But the tummy troubles

still persist. After having him checked out by his pedia I started him on

Colon Health Probiotics. Like they advertise on tv. The pedia told my

that it had absolutely no side effects and was completely safe and would not

interfere with other meds. It has made quite a difference. In fact, I took him

off it as a test and the tummy troubles came back. It is like your own natural

bacteria, not a medication. It is definately worth a try.

[Guest guest]

I had from my 20's on social anxiety so severe that prior to

a social event, presentation at school or work, I would have

anxiety so severe it triggered Irritable Bowl Syndrome.

I would figure I am going to get sick on the way to work I better

leave early. I didn't try medication to treat it until last year, and it has

really helped. I also found out the toll it took on my

body, I take B12 and D and calicum for deficencies. The B12

helped a lot with stomach issues.

I also take zoloft at 50mg stopped the anxiety triggered

stomach problems.

Pam

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> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

> Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said he

wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him, but

don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all! I'm gonna pass on what was said and recommendations to my two.

>

> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

[Guest guest]

My husband went through tons of physical tests and was finally diagnosed

with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This was years ago--maybe 10? He was

also having some anxiety issues so tried Lexapro and lo and behold all

of his gastro trouble went away. There are seratonin receptors in the

intestines. Sounds like it's an anxiety issue to me. Have they tried

an SSRI rather than a short term solution?

Dina

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[Guest guest]

Dina, thanks, that's interesting. No, Xanax was the first either has tried.

With it's not so often that he feels he needs anything, can be months,

etc. But he does get bad stomach aches/pains and has been to docs to check out,

even ER, so figure bad if he goes; but all okay. He says it's overeating, he

thinks (well, kid has eaten something about every 1.5 hrs whole life, lol).

Anyway, he's watching diet and consumption to see; he says he gets constipated.

My oldest has more frequent panic, but also has stress. He also worries about

things like some with general anxiety do. But he's had a couple allergic

reactions, he says, to food in last half year or so, so wondered about food

related stuff too. And I wondered could it be related. Oh and he gets

diarrhea, opposite of . He's had his heart checked out as he had a

snowboarding injury a winter before last and still gets pain in his chest, but

docs don't see anything. Oldest has no insurance so any $ is from me for stuff.

Ugh!

Thanks for the SSRI example!

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>

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> My husband went through tons of physical tests and was finally diagnosed

> with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This was years ago--maybe 10? He was

> also having some anxiety issues so tried Lexapro and lo and behold all

> of his gastro trouble went away. There are seratonin receptors in the

> intestines. Sounds like it's an anxiety issue to me. Have they tried

> an SSRI rather than a short term solution?

>

>

> Dina

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[Guest guest]

That sounds complex to try and figure out. For both! Different

problems, but both troublesome. I guess if you go the physical route

and find nothing then you go the psychiatric route...

So is trying to find something for a short term thing, more like a

panic episode? Did you say he tried Xanax and it didn't work? Sorry,

I've been reading fast today.

Dina

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[Guest guest]

My oldest tried the Xanax. He has the more frequent attacks. But a couple

times in the past year, he says he had an allergic reaction eating food, like

his throat closing up and him vomiting, so he was wondering about allergies.

Though he'd eaten those foods before. So I was wondering if that can happen

with anxiety/panic.

is allergic to tree nuts and carries an epi-pen so I know what an allergic

reaction is like, but not sure if same thing happened with my oldest, he's just

telling me about this stuff on the phone, haven't seen it.

Have to say it's easier with 's OCD since I understand OCD. I'm getting

too old for this, lol.

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>

>

> That sounds complex to try and figure out. For both! Different

> problems, but both troublesome. I guess if you go the physical route

> and find nothing then you go the psychiatric route...

>

>

> So is trying to find something for a short term thing, more like a

> panic episode? Did you say he tried Xanax and it didn't work?

[Guest guest]

You might be interested in this video, explaining how our food has changed in

the past 15 years and why so many kids are developing allergies because of

it.. 

 

Misty

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Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 5:46:24 AM

Subject: Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

 

My oldest tried the Xanax. He has the more frequent attacks. But a couple times

in the past year, he says he had an allergic reaction eating food, like his

throat closing up and him vomiting, so he was wondering about allergies. Though

he'd eaten those foods before. So I was wondering if that can happen with

anxiety/panic.

is allergic to tree nuts and carries an epi-pen so I know what an allergic

reaction is like, but not sure if same thing happened with my oldest, he's just

telling me about this stuff on the phone, haven't seen it.

Have to say it's easier with 's OCD since I understand OCD. I'm getting

too old for this, lol.

>

>

>

> That sounds complex to try and figure out. For both! Different

> problems, but both troublesome. I guess if you go the physical route

> and find nothing then you go the psychiatric route...

>

>

> So is trying to find something for a short term thing, more like a

> panic episode? Did you say he tried Xanax and it didn't work?

[Guest guest]

Has he done a gluten-free trial to see if things improve?

Misty

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Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 8:15:20 PM

Subject: Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

 

Dina, thanks, that's interesting. No, Xanax was the first either has tried. With

it's not so often that he feels he needs anything, can be months, etc. But

he does get bad stomach aches/pains and has been to docs to check out, even ER,

so figure bad if he goes; but all okay. He says it's overeating, he thinks

(well, kid has eaten something about every 1.5 hrs whole life, lol). Anyway,

he's watching diet and consumption to see; he says he gets constipated. My

oldest has more frequent panic, but also has stress. He also worries about

things like some with general anxiety do. But he's had a couple allergic

reactions, he says, to food in last half year or so, so wondered about food

related stuff too. And I wondered could it be related. Oh and he gets diarrhea,

opposite of . He's had his heart checked out as he had a snowboarding

injury a winter before last and still gets pain in his chest, but docs don't see

anything. Oldest has no insurance so any $ is from me for stuff. Ugh!

Thanks for the SSRI example!

>

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> My husband went through tons of physical tests and was finally diagnosed

> with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This was years ago--maybe 10? He was

> also having some anxiety issues so tried Lexapro and lo and behold all

> of his gastro trouble went away. There are seratonin receptors in the

> intestines. Sounds like it's an anxiety issue to me. Have they tried

> an SSRI rather than a short term solution?

>

>

> Dina

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this video, Robyn is 100% correct in her analysis and inspiring to

know she put all the

facts together to answer why when we were kids allergies were far and few.

Her example also was true in my kids including autoimmune diseases derived from

food sensitivities that

take time to develop into a disease.    The animals must be plant fed not

corn

fed to avoid problems

i.e. nephrosis like my son had.  It was the grain the animal was fed which he

was sensitive to all grains.

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To:

Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 10:24:25 AM

Subject: Re: Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

 

You might be interested in this video, explaining how our food has changed in

the past 15 years and why so many kids are developing allergies because of

it.. 

 

Misty

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To:

Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 5:46:24 AM

Subject: Re: off topic - anxiety, pain

 

My oldest tried the Xanax. He has the more frequent attacks. But a couple times

in the past year, he says he had an allergic reaction eating food, like his

throat closing up and him vomiting, so he was wondering about allergies. Though

he'd eaten those foods before. So I was wondering if that can happen with

anxiety/panic.

is allergic to tree nuts and carries an epi-pen so I know what an allergic

reaction is like, but not sure if same thing happened with my oldest, he's just

telling me about this stuff on the phone, haven't seen it.

Have to say it's easier with 's OCD since I understand OCD. I'm getting

too old for this, lol.

>

>

>

> That sounds complex to try and figure out. For both! Different

> problems, but both troublesome. I guess if you go the physical route

> and find nothing then you go the psychiatric route...

>

>

> So is trying to find something for a short term thing, more like a

> panic episode? Did you say he tried Xanax and it didn't work?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll look at the video later (at work now). But no, those stubborn kids

(over age 20) won't try a particular diet. Think they are more " suggestible "

if I say something like - eliminate tomato products for 2 weeks (or dairy...)

and see if anything improves, etc.

I suggested tomato to my oldest as when he was younger his head used to itch

with ketchup and pizza, etc.

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> > My husband went through tons of physical tests and was finally diagnosed

> > with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This was years ago--maybe 10? He was

> > also having some anxiety issues so tried Lexapro and lo and behold all

> > of his gastro trouble went away. There are seratonin receptors in the

> > intestines. Sounds like it's an anxiety issue to me. Have they tried

> > an SSRI rather than a short term solution?

> >

> >

> > Dina

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Different benzodiazapines can work differently for different people. Has he

tried a different one, Chris?

Xanax is one that wears off rather quickly. It made me feel " rushy " when it

wore off, when I took it. Klonipin is more even, but is better if taken over a

period of time, to get the full benefit, rather than once in a while. Ativan is

one that I've tolerated well, in the past.

Sometimes 2 is needed. When Josh took it, years back, he sometimes needed 2.

And, yes, they can be addictive, but anxiety can be crippling too.

We made a point of having Josh take them only when needed, and tried other

methods when it was convenient. But, if the anxiety was too much and the other

methods weren't working, or he was in a place where he couldn't try other

methods, we were thankful to have the meds.

The whole body reacts when having anxiety, so it can really be a " chicken and

egg " situation. . . . Which is causing what.

Certain health issues can cause anxiety, but anxiety can cause reactions in your

body that feel like health issues.

When the doc prescribed them, did they give him a full work up to see if

something else could be going on?

Panic attacks in general can include stomach upset and even vomiting.

There's a great book out there called " Coping with Panic - A Drug-Free Approach

to Dealing with Anxiety Attacks " by A Clum.

It explains anxiety and panic well. He might benefit from reading it.

Hugs,

BJ

>

> Anyone here whose child - or you - deal with anxiety/panic attacks also have

stomach aches and/or vomiting when anxiety rises?

>

> Issue with 2 of my other sons!

>

> Also - one just tried Xanax for first time, said it didn't help. He said he

wondered if the dose is too low?? I don't know what dose doctor gave him, but

don't want him to just try taking 2 either?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks BJ. Xanax is the first he's tried, other than that supplement I gave him

for it. I'll have to check in with him this week (doesn't live with me) and see

how he's doing, if he's tried it again. And ask if he'd actually read that book

if I got it for him. He wondered about taking a 2nd Xanax, but I wasn't sure,

not familiar with this type med. Had read about being addictive so hesitant for

that reason too. Dependency runs in our family.

>

> Different benzodiazapines can work differently for different people. Has he

tried a different one, Chris?

>

> Xanax is one that wears off rather quickly. It made me feel " rushy " when it

wore off, when I took it. Klonipin is more even, but is better if taken over a

period of time, to get the full benefit, rather than once in a while. Ativan is

one that I've tolerated well, in the past.

[Guest guest]

It would only becomes a problem if he takes it on a regular basis (daily,

hourly), Chris. If he only takes it once in a while, it should be fine, despite

dependency running in a family (know all about that here :o/).

It's a good concern. Docs had me on Klonipin around the clock for about 6

months. I couldn't stop taking them. I felt like I was coming out of my skin

and losing my mind. They wanted me to wean off in 3 weeks, but it was

impossible. My muscles locked up and I couldn't even walk. At one point I

recall crawling into our kitchen to get water. So, it's not a small thing to

become dependent upon them. I remember reading it is equated to herion

addiction when trying to quit.

Fortunately, I found a doctor and compounding pharmacist who were willing to

work together to wean me off slowly. It took about a year, but I was able to

function, so was worth it.

Not sure if it's like that for everyone, but I remember reading posts from

others, online, who had a similar experience after taking them regularly.

I hope he starts feeling better, Chris.

Hugs,

BJ

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> > Different benzodiazapines can work differently for different people. Has he

tried a different one, Chris?

> >

> > Xanax is one that wears off rather quickly. It made me feel " rushy " when it

wore off, when I took it. Klonipin is more even, but is better if taken over a

period of time, to get the full benefit, rather than once in a while. Ativan is

one that I've tolerated well, in the past.

>