Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 My child NEVER falls asleep, really. Even when it seems she is sleeping, she is tossing and turning. OCD and racing thoughts are severe at night. Things are a bit better with seroquel. It wore me down. I am truly a mess from lack of sleep. ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:03:40 PM Subject: sleeping issues I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible separation issues also. It is exhausting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Have you tried Children's Benadryl? Or Melatonin? Our son used Benadryl for years to help him become sleepy. At some point it stopped working as well, so we switched to Melatonin. Both helped him sleep. For a lot of kids the OCD is worse at bedtime. They don't have anything to distract themselves to keep the OCD at bay. Have you tried having some soft, relaxing music play, or something to help distract while she waits for sleep to come? Some in here have even said they let their kid have a TV on, turned down low, to help them. BJ > > My child NEVER falls asleep, really. Even when it seems she is sleeping, she is > tossing and turning. OCD and racing thoughts are severe at night. Things are a > bit better with seroquel. It wore me down. I am truly a mess from lack of sleep. > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:03:40 PM > Subject: sleeping issues > > > I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter > but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have > so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two > or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible > separation issues also. It is exhausting. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Good question! I'm waiting to hear the advice on this one,too!Because,I'll be honest with you..My husband leaves to go to workat 2am,If Caleb(who is 6) wakes up and needs me...(Actually it'smore like WHEN) Because its about 6 nights out of 7- I am not the least bit disciplined enough to do ANYTHING but scoot over and let him snuggleright beside me-and we sleep just fine until morning! SOME People( My husbandon the week-ends), My sister (who has NO kids & CAN'T IMAGINE using a bedfor something as benign as getting a good night's rest anyway!)------THINK that I amWRONG in doing so! But it works for me and Caleb...and right now, with all the battles we have to fight,this is one we're waiting on!!Milissa in NC Subject: sleeping issues To: Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 5:03 AM I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible separation issues also. It is exhausting. ------------------------------------ Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ .. Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDF treatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF glossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDF membership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com pill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I have recently been trying a homeopathic cell salt before bed - Kali Phos 6X (make sure it is not a homeopathic remedy which would come in 6C, 12C, 30C potencies and needs more precise prescribing). You can often get it at a health food store and it works more like a supplement than a homeopathic remedy. I have found it a very gentle way to slow down racing thoughts and get to sleep. It is in a sugar base and melts in the mouth. Just a thought... Sandy ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3486 - Release Date: 03/06/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I didn't realize until recently how exhausting the whole getting our daughter to sleep has been. For her melatonin knocks her out within 30 minutes. Wow. A miracle. She takes 2mg. You can read more about it on the Mayo Clinic web site. I see many kids with ADHD are prescribed clonidine to get them to sleep, I don't know if this works at all with anxious kids. I can tell you it really is so much easier to deal with our daughter's issues, when at least she is asleep by 10pm. I hope you find something that works. Pam > > I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible separation issues also. It is exhausting. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I know. The melatonin stopped working when her OCD skyrocketed. > I didn't realize until recently how exhausting the whole > getting our daughter to sleep has been. For her melatonin > knocks her out within 30 minutes. Wow. A miracle. > She takes 2mg. You can read more about it on the Mayo Clinic > web site. > > I see many kids with ADHD are prescribed clonidine to get them > to sleep, I don't know if this works at all with anxious > kids. > > I can tell you it really is so much easier to deal with our > daughter's issues, when at least she is asleep by 10pm. > > I hope you find something that works. > > Pam > > > > > > I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible separation issues also. It is exhausting. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 My daughter's school nurse suggested that I give a lower dose (1mg) at dinner and see if it relaxes her in the evening more, rather than a larger dose later. Anxiety is so draining, they need rest so bad. Pam > > > > > > I realize we are early in the treatment process with our ten year old daughter but just wondering if others find sleeping issues are a huge obstacle. We have so much trouble getting our daughter to go to sleep. Some nights it takes two or more hours for her to relax enough to fall asleep. Of course she has horrible separation issues also. It is exhausting. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 You are not alone with the sleep issues. My dd will sometimes take 2-3 hours to fall asleep to only wake up 2 hours later and try to crawl in my bed. Sunday nights are worse for us. She is anticiapating going back to school Monday. She would so like it if I could home school her. I try to keep the routine as consistent as possible. They don't have alot of down time to watch tv as we are always on the go with dance, or karate, or something active. I try to keep the kids really busy so they are tired. We have a no worry zone - that is her bed. If she wants to talk about her worries she cannot do it at bedtime. This seems to work because I shut her down before she gets herself all worked up. She has a worry stone that she keeps under her pillow that she can hold onto to put her worries in if need be. Lately she has been falling asleep a little faster than she did in the beginning of this crazy thing we call anxiety and OCD. Know that you are not alone. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm inclined to say do what works, for now, while thinking about and working on a solution. For a period of time, our son slept on an air mattress, on our bedroom floor, because he could not be in his room alone. It was just too much for him, and he was 11 at the time. Anxiety is a horrible thing, and sometimes having someone near you helps, until they can get to a point of being able to cope with it better. . Whether that's due to age/maturing, medication, or working on the problem We slowly worked at moving the mattress to his room and eventually got him into his own bed, but it took time and patience. BJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Have you found anything that helps? Our son's OCD needed to me more under control. . Still there, but not as intense. . For the Benadryl, or Melatonin to work. If the anxiety was too high, it trumped anything that would help him sleep. So sorry it stopped working, Wilma. BJ > > I know. The melatonin stopped working when her OCD skyrocketed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 The sleep issue, Wilma, for your dd is what makes me wonder about bipolar. My dd absolutely could not sleep when manic. Ambien didn't make her sleep. Melatonin didn't make her sleep. Nothing worked until the manic cycle was stopped. She slept only 2 hours per 24 hour time period for 5 weeks straight. The next time she was manic she did the same only the 2 hours came in 20 minute increments during the day. Have they ruled out bipolar? Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues OH man, I wish that worked here. Lots of activities and schedules is what I tried first. This child could go for ever and ever, like the energizer bunny, then look exhausted,,,,,,but then she always gets a second wind. Her brain NEVER turns off!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Well, it is true that my dd's thoughts did not make sense. Her racing thoughts came too fast to make much sense. In fact, even the words that came out of her mouth didn't make sense after a while. For my dd, it is high doses of an atypical that stops a manic cycle, even with other mood stabilizers on board. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:15:07 AM Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues All pdocs. say NOT bipolar. They said because she can follow her train of though. Sounds wierd, right? She has tried BP drugs though. Nothing puts her to sleep except the seroquel seems to be helping. The only thing I have 2 go on is they did some test and said she has high clostridia and tests possitive for PANDAS. The think she had a strep infection at birth that created all of her severe OCD etc.... I don't no much about this PANDAS thing. The are also testing her for Lymes. Pdoc are all stumped that everyting we try usually makes her more aggitated. I just keep searching.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 OH man, I wish that worked here. Lots of activities and schedules is what I tried first. This child could go for ever and ever, like the energizer bunny, then look exhausted,,,,,,but then she always gets a second wind. Her brain NEVER turns off!!! > You are not alone with the sleep issues. My dd will sometimes take 2-3 hours to fall asleep to only wake up 2 hours later and try to crawl in my bed. Sunday nights are worse for us. She is anticiapating going back to school Monday. She would so like it if I could home school her. I try to keep the routine as consistent as possible. They don't have alot of down time to watch tv as we are always on the go with dance, or karate, or something active. I try to keep the kids really busy so they are tired. We have a no worry zone - that is her bed. If she wants to talk about her worries she cannot do it at bedtime. This seems to work because I shut her down before she gets herself all worked up. She has a worry stone that she keeps under her pillow that she can hold onto to put her worries in if need be. > > Lately she has been falling asleep a little faster than she did in the beginning of this crazy thing we call anxiety and OCD. > > Know that you are not alone. > > Take care. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 That is what we did too BJ. I really feel you just have 2 work with what u have, and roll with the tide, so to speak. And if she ever feels unstable again and needs me to sleep on her floor next 2 her... I will do it again. She has so much 2 deal with, and this is the least of my worries, really! > I'm inclined to say do what works, for now, while thinking about and working on a solution. > > For a period of time, our son slept on an air mattress, on our bedroom floor, because he could not be in his room alone. It was just too much for him, and he was 11 at the time. Anxiety is a horrible thing, and sometimes having someone near you helps, until they can get to a point of being able to cope with it better. . Whether that's due to age/maturing, medication, or working on the problem We slowly worked at moving the mattress to his room and eventually got him into his own bed, but it took time and patience. > > BJ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 All pdocs. say NOT bipolar. They said because she can follow her train of though. Sounds wierd, right? She has tried BP drugs though. Nothing puts her to sleep except the seroquel seems to be helping. The only thing I have 2 go on is they did some test and said she has high clostridia and tests possitive for PANDAS. The think she had a strep infection at birth that created all of her severe OCD etc.... I don't no much about this PANDAS thing. The are also testing her for Lymes. Pdoc are all stumped that everyting we try usually makes her more aggitated. I just keep searching.... > The sleep issue, Wilma, for your dd is what makes me wonder about bipolar. My dd > absolutely could not sleep when manic. Ambien didn't make her sleep. Melatonin > didn't make her sleep. Nothing worked until the manic cycle was stopped. She > slept only 2 hours per 24 hour time period for 5 weeks straight. The next time > she was manic she did the same only the 2 hours came in 20 minute increments > during the day. Have they ruled out bipolar? Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 8:58:46 AM > Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues > > OH man, I wish that worked here. Lots of activities and schedules is what I > tried first. This child could go for ever and ever, like the energizer bunny, > then look exhausted,,,,,,but then she always gets a second wind. Her brain NEVER > turns off!!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Are you saying... with just the mood stabilizers...the manic does not stop? The mood stabilizers seem to keep my child from getting mean...but they don't stop the OCD and racing thought either.... It that is what you mean?? > Well, it is true that my dd's thoughts did not make sense. Her racing thoughts > came too fast to make much sense. In fact, even the words that came out of her > mouth didn't make sense after a while. For my dd, it is high doses of an > atypical that stops a manic cycle, even with other mood stabilizers on board. > Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:15:07 AM > Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues > > All pdocs. say NOT bipolar. They said because she can follow her train of > though. Sounds wierd, right? She has tried BP drugs though. Nothing puts her to > sleep except the seroquel seems to be helping. The only thing I have 2 go on is > they did some test and said she has high clostridia and tests possitive for > PANDAS. The think she had a strep infection at birth that created all of her > severe OCD etc.... I don't no much about this PANDAS thing. The are also testing > her for Lymes. Pdoc are all stumped that everyting we try usually makes her more > aggitated. I just keep searching.... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I hear you, Wilma. You do what you can, and sometimes even if it is enabling them, you need to at that given time, knowing that somewhere down the road it can be worked on. For our son, maturity helped him a lot, in dealing with stuff that he found overwhelming. One thing I find interesting is that those with anxiety mature later, due to the anxiety. So we learned to not expect him to hit those milestones when other kids his age did. We would encourage, but realized it might not happen in that timing, but his own timing instead. Wilma, has your daughter been evaluated for Bipolar? Just thinking that the sleeplessness can be a sign. . . Hugs, BJ > > That is what we did too BJ. I really feel you just have 2 work with what u have, and roll with the tide, so to speak. And if she ever feels unstable again and needs me to sleep on her floor next 2 her... I will do it again. She has so much 2 deal with, and this is the least of my worries, really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Oops. . Well that will (hopefully) teach me to read the other posts before responding. lol I see Stormy already asked you about possible Bipolar Disorder. BJ > > > > That is what we did too BJ. I really feel you just have 2 work with what u have, and roll with the tide, so to speak. And if she ever feels unstable again and needs me to sleep on her floor next 2 her... I will do it again. She has so much 2 deal with, and this is the least of my worries, really! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yes, my dd's mania was not stopped by mood stabilizers alone. She has had 3 serious manic episodes and each one required high dose atypicals to stop them. She needs mood stabilizers as well as an atypical to be stable and not swing to mania or severe depression. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:22:49 AM Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues Are you saying... with just the mood stabilizers...the manic does not stop? The mood stabilizers seem to keep my child from getting mean...but they don't stop the OCD and racing thought either.... It that is what you mean?? > Well, it is true that my dd's thoughts did not make sense. Her racing thoughts > came too fast to make much sense. In fact, even the words that came out of her > mouth didn't make sense after a while. For my dd, it is high doses of an > atypical that stops a manic cycle, even with other mood stabilizers on board. > Stormy > > ________________________________ ------------------------------------ Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ .. Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDF treatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF glossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDF membership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com pill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 The doctor is upping the seroquel slowly.... It is getting her to sleep, thanks God!!! but it is starting to make her bounce off the walls again...Just like most things we try. Doctor is going to keep going up, and I am all for it, since I hear too low a dose can make a child wild, but you have to get to a higher dose. We will see. I need your good thought with me.... > Yes, my dd's mania was not stopped by mood stabilizers alone. She has had 3 > serious manic episodes and each one required high dose atypicals to stop them. > She needs mood stabilizers as well as an atypical to be stable and not swing to > mania or severe depression. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:22:49 AM > Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues > > Are you saying... with just the mood stabilizers...the manic does not stop? The > mood stabilizers seem to keep my child from getting mean...but they don't stop > the OCD and racing thought either.... It that is what you mean?? > > > > > Well, it is true that my dd's thoughts did not make sense. Her racing thoughts > > > came too fast to make much sense. In fact, even the words that came out of her > > > mouth didn't make sense after a while. For my dd, it is high doses of an > > atypical that stops a manic cycle, even with other mood stabilizers on board. > > Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------------ > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the > archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be > accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar > Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( > http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a > question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask > Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list > moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact > the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoop > membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ > . Our group and related groups are listed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDF treatment > providers list may be viewed at > http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l > . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at > http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF glossary of terms may be > accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDF membership link > may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com pill > identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . > Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups > Links > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 all pdocs. say it's not bp. she has tried lamictal and some bp meds. but nothing helps with sleep, until the seroquel we are trying... but the seroquel is making her bounce off the walls during the day. Ugh! > I hear you, Wilma. You do what you can, and sometimes even if it is enabling them, you need to at that given time, knowing that somewhere down the road it can be worked on. > > For our son, maturity helped him a lot, in dealing with stuff that he found overwhelming. > > One thing I find interesting is that those with anxiety mature later, due to the anxiety. So we learned to not expect him to hit those milestones when other kids his age did. We would encourage, but realized it might not happen in that timing, but his own timing instead. > > Wilma, has your daughter been evaluated for Bipolar? Just thinking that the sleeplessness can be a sign. . . > > Hugs, > BJ > > > > > > That is what we did too BJ. I really feel you just have 2 work with what u have, and roll with the tide, so to speak. And if she ever feels unstable again and needs me to sleep on her floor next 2 her... I will do it again. She has so much 2 deal with, and this is the least of my worries, really! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I am sending you my good thoughts. For my dd, when she really is manic, which it sounds like that is not what the pdoc thinks your dd is, they take her to a high dose very quickly to stop the mania. At a high enough dose this can happen within a few days. After it is under control they try lowering the dose some and see if she can remain stable. I hope your dd has success with Seroquel. That was not a good med for my dd but it may be for yours. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 6:17:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues The doctor is upping the seroquel slowly.... It is getting her to sleep, thanks God!!! but it is starting to make her bounce off the walls again...Just like most things we try. Doctor is going to keep going up, and I am all for it, since I hear too low a dose can make a child wild, but you have to get to a higher dose. We will see. I need your good thought with me.... > Yes, my dd's mania was not stopped by mood stabilizers alone. She has had 3 > serious manic episodes and each one required high dose atypicals to stop them. > She needs mood stabilizers as well as an atypical to be stable and not swing to > > mania or severe depression. Stormy > > ________________________________ > ------------------------------------ Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ .. Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDF treatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF glossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDF membership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com pill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 It is getting her to sleep anyway... She was up until 3am every night, doing her rituals. So far it puts her to sleep, but she seems like she can't think straight during the day, but looking back...she could never think straight. None of the SSRI's work. I'm sorry Stormy, but what is your child on? > I am sending you my good thoughts. For my dd, when she really is manic, which it > sounds like that is not what the pdoc thinks your dd is, they take her to a high > dose very quickly to stop the mania. At a high enough dose this can happen > within a few days. After it is under control they try lowering the dose some and > see if she can remain stable. I hope your dd has success with Seroquel. That was > not a good med for my dd but it may be for yours. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 6:17:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: sleeping issues > > The doctor is upping the seroquel slowly.... > It is getting her to sleep, thanks God!!! but it is starting to make her bounce > off the walls again...Just like most things we try. Doctor is going to keep > going up, and I am all for it, since I hear too low a dose can make a child > wild, but you have to get to a higher dose. We will see. I need your good > thought with me.... > > > > Yes, my dd's mania was not stopped by mood stabilizers alone. She has had 3 > > serious manic episodes and each one required high dose atypicals to stop them. > > > She needs mood stabilizers as well as an atypical to be stable and not swing to > > > > mania or severe depression. Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// by scrolling down to the > archives calendar . Our links may be accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links . Our files may be > accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files . > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar > Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( > http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 ). You may ask a > question of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words " Ask > Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list > moderators are Castle, BJ, Barb Nesrallah, and Stormy. You may contact > the moderators at -owner . OCDKidsLoop > membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ > . Our group and related groups are listed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links . IOCDF treatment > providers list may be viewed at > http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php . > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l > . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at > http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF glossary of terms may be > accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx . IOCDF membership link > may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com pill > identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . > Mayo Clinic Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex .Yahoo! Groups > Links > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 There are lots of causes for insomnia in kids. Anxiety, depression and autism to name a few. My son deals with it too, but meds help. His pdoc wants to take him off Seroquel in a couple of weeks - not sure what will happen then. Bonnie > > > You are not alone with the sleep issues. My dd will sometimes take 2-3 hours to fall asleep to only wake up 2 hours later and try to crawl in my bed. Sunday nights are worse for us. She is anticiapating going back to school Monday. She would so like it if I could home school her. I try to keep the routine as consistent as possible. They don't have alot of down time to watch tv as we are always on the go with dance, or karate, or something active. I try to keep the kids really busy so they are tired. We have a no worry zone - that is her bed. If she wants to talk about her worries she cannot do it at bedtime. This seems to work because I shut her down before she gets herself all worked up. She has a worry stone that she keeps under her pillow that she can hold onto to put her worries in if need be. > > > > Lately she has been falling asleep a little faster than she did in the beginning of this crazy thing we call anxiety and OCD. > > > > Know that you are not alone. > > > > Take care. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Why r they taking him the seroquel. We just started my girl on it, and she is finally sleeping . > There are lots of causes for insomnia in kids. Anxiety, depression and autism to name a few. My son deals with it too, but meds help. His pdoc wants to take him off Seroquel in a couple of weeks - not sure what will happen then. > > Bonnie > > > > > > > You are not alone with the sleep issues. My dd will sometimes take 2-3 hours to fall asleep to only wake up 2 hours later and try to crawl in my bed. Sunday nights are worse for us. She is anticiapating going back to school Monday. She would so like it if I could home school her. I try to keep the routine as consistent as possible. They don't have alot of down time to watch tv as we are always on the go with dance, or karate, or something active. I try to keep the kids really busy so they are tired. We have a no worry zone - that is her bed. If she wants to talk about her worries she cannot do it at bedtime. This seems to work because I shut her down before she gets herself all worked up. She has a worry stone that she keeps under her pillow that she can hold onto to put her worries in if need be. > > > > > > Lately she has been falling asleep a little faster than she did in the beginning of this crazy thing we call anxiety and OCD. > > > > > > Know that you are not alone. > > > > > > Take care. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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