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Wow! This is great! Hi everyone, Im le and like you catz, Im

considering surgery in Feb 08 (when my 12 mths with private health

will be up). All I think about is this surgery and how much Im looking

forward to it/scared of it/unsure of it etc etc. Im DESPERATE to get

in touch with both those that are also considering it and those who

have had it done recently. I'd love to follow your journeys and the

idea of taking this journey with someone going thru the same thing

would be so great. Anyone interested? Are you all from Sydney? Anyone

live on the North shore? Im from Cromer (near DeeWhy/Manly area). My

email address is gabsangels@... Please contact me! :)

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Welcome Catz, I'm sure you will get a lot of great unbias info from the

group. Good idea to get as much info as you can before you decide to

have or not to have the band. Great to have you part of the

group..Ingrid

>

> Hi Everyone,

> This is the first time I have ever done anything like this so I'm a

> bit nervous! I am still at the considering the surgery option stage

> (have a surgeon's appointment) and I'm trying to read as much about

> the procedure as I can. Lap-banding sounds so good in theory but I

> have read a lot of posts on the forums that make it sound really hard.

> Just want to get some feedback.Thanks

>

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Thanks for the encouragement, Ingrid. Have a date in January but I'm

just doing a bit more thinking as well, though I think I have decided

to go ahead. I'll keep reading all the info. Thanks again

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> > This is the first time I have ever done anything like this so I'm a

> > bit nervous! I am still at the considering the surgery option stage

> > (have a surgeon's appointment) and I'm trying to read as much about

> > the procedure as I can. Lap-banding sounds so good in theory but I

> > have read a lot of posts on the forums that make it sound really hard.

> > Just want to get some feedback.Thanks

> >

>

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Why did they not diagnose her as Autistic? If her speech is that delayed how

did she " qualify " for PPD-NOS?

" dlwyrick@... " wrote:

Hi, my name is . My husband and I have a 7 yr. old daughter with autism -

PDD-NOS on the books. She was diagnosed just before she turned 4. It was

difficult to diagnose her because she wasn't " classic " I guess, and she was very

social and verbal up until 13 mos. - after her immunizations. Then her speech

went away and we were assured time and again that she just had a speech delay

and we might have to start speech therapy, which we did when she turned 2. We

really didn't see much progress until starting ABA therapy at age 5. This is

when she started using one word at a time to express needs and wants. We were

thrilled! She also potty trained just before turning 6. Although she is still

significantly delayed in expressive language, her receptive language has

improved greatly. We have tried B12 injections, Auditory Integration Therapy,

Trace Minerals, L-Carnotine, Buspirone, Naltrexone, and

are still using ABA therapy and Carnosine and Behavior Balance (DMG). What I

would like to know is if any of your daughters have problems with yeast that you

know of? We are concerned that she might have a problem with yeast overgrowth,

but our pediatrician is skeptical. We have seen a DAN doctor in the past, but he

is moving out of this area.

I would also like to talk to anyone in the group who might have a daughter

similar to ours.

, mom to

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I don't know really. We always thought that anything under the ASD " umbrella "

was " autism " , only aspergers meant you were verbal. was hard to diagnose

because it was obvious that she wanted to communicate. She also has apraxia. We

recently asked her psychiatrist how " severe " he considered her autism. He said

that he would consider her mild if she were more verbal. She did go through a

pretty severe spell though after her diagnosis. This is when the stimming really

began, and didn't improve until we started fish oil supplement and ABA therapy.

Then she began talking. She was placed in an inclusive kindergarten classroom

with an aide all day. The aide was trained in ABA therapy and would pull

3x a day to an " ABA room " that we set up at the school. We have been very

blessed with the school she attends. It is a very small, public school. The

principal, therapists, and 's teachers have all been on board and have

worked with us to make this a positive, successful placement for . We also

see a DAN doctor who has helped us out with vitamins and minerals that meet her

needs.

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Welcome :)

I just wanted to say that I LOVE your girls' names! Melody and

Harmony...those are beautiful!

Amnesty

>

> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm so thrilled to have found this group. I often feel like " we " are

> the only girl in playgroups or other Autism gatherings. It's nice to

> feel like part of a " girl " group!

>

> I am looking forward to getting to know some of you, and being able to

> come here for a great resource!

>

> Happy New Year everyone!

>

> Lynn Shoop from Novato California

> Mom to Melody (almost 3 and Autistic), Harmony (almost 2 and typical),

> Robbie (11 and typical), and (19 and suspected Aspergers

> Syndrome)

>

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HI Lynn,

Welcome! We are in California but in the southern

realm. Where exactly is Novato?

Rebekah

mom to Serena HFA

and three other NT children

--- Lynn Shoop wrote:

> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm so thrilled to have found this group. I often

> feel like " we " are

> the only girl in playgroups or other Autism

> gatherings. It's nice to

> feel like part of a " girl " group!

>

> I am looking forward to getting to know some of you,

> and being able to

> come here for a great resource!

>

> Happy New Year everyone!

>

> Lynn Shoop from Novato California

> Mom to Melody (almost 3 and Autistic), Harmony

> (almost 2 and typical),

> Robbie (11 and typical), and (19 and

> suspected Aspergers

> Syndrome)

>

>

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Thanks Rebekah!

Novato is about 30 minutes north of the Golden Gate Bridge in Marin County.

Just North of Mount Tamalpais.

Lynn Shoop

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HI Lynn,

Welcome! We are in California but in the southern

realm. Where exactly is Novato?

Rebekah

mom to Serena HFA

and three other NT children

--- Lynn Shoop < mikeandlynnshoop@...

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> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm so thrilled to have found this group. I often

> feel like " we " are

> the only girl in playgroups or other Autism

> gatherings. It's nice to

> feel like part of a " girl " group!

>

> I am looking forward to getting to know some of you,

> and being able to

> come here for a great resource!

>

> Happy New Year everyone!

>

> Lynn Shoop from Novato California

> Mom to Melody (almost 3 and Autistic), Harmony

> (almost 2 and typical),

> Robbie (11 and typical), and (19 and

> suspected Aspergers

> Syndrome)

>

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Welcome to the group, Lynn!!

I have 5 children ages 26, 19, 17, 15, & 13. 4 girls and one boy.

(13) has autism and is affected mild-moderately. I hope you

can get all the answers you are looking for here. Feel free to search

the archives if you need something immediately. It has helped me on

several occasions.

Shanna (Tennessee)

>

> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm so thrilled to have found this group. I often feel like " we "

are

> the only girl in playgroups or other Autism gatherings. It's nice

to

> feel like part of a " girl " group!

>

> I am looking forward to getting to know some of you, and being able

to

> come here for a great resource!

>

> Happy New Year everyone!

>

> Lynn Shoop from Novato California

> Mom to Melody (almost 3 and Autistic), Harmony (almost 2 and

typical),

> Robbie (11 and typical), and (19 and suspected

Aspergers

> Syndrome)

>

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Welcome to the group, Lynn.

Are you able to get much services living in Novato? I used to live in San

& have a vague memory of having visited Novato, but not sure. How far

away is Muir Woods from you & Sausalito? I haven't crossed the SF bridge in

ages but do remember Sausalito & taking the ferry there.

Is there an active ASA or autism groups in the SF area? It seems like there

is more activity from the S. CA area but don't know if the N. CA area has

much going on?

I have a 26yo NT son, Jimmy, daughter in law, Lien & 2 grandkids living in

Oakland. My mom & younger brother still live in San . Here in AZ, I

have 2 daughters. Becky is 17, NT, senior in high school & is

almost 16 (Leap Year) & has moderate autism.

This is my favorite group.

Marie

>

> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm so thrilled to have found this group. I often feel like " we " are

> the only girl in playgroups or other Autism gatherings. It's nice to

> feel like part of a " girl " group!

>

> I am looking forward to getting to know some of you, and being able to

> come here for a great resource!

>

> Happy New Year everyone!

>

> Lynn Shoop from Novato California

> Mom to Melody (almost 3 and Autistic), Harmony (almost 2 and typical),

> Robbie (11 and typical), and (19 and suspected Aspergers

> Syndrome)

>

>

>

> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

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My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD. she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy. We have been going to " play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much. When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last. We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent. The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming permanent.

Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering or come

back out except to use the restroom after showering. She can't touch her toys

without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her school lunch

from her backpack. Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she

cannot do homework after eating. She has ecema so all the washing is hurting

her skin. If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is

acting out she becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw

her way out past us. Or she will have melt downs like a toddler. We never know

how to handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent "

and that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I

give in a lot. I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for

me and it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one? I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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Thank you so much for your words of wisdom about parenting a child with OCD. 

There are days when my husband and I really feel like we are going to loose it,

not knowing if we are being too tough or letting her get away with too much. 

The therapist gives me 5 minutes at the end of each session and she just tells

me useless advice about how I am not being a firm parent and letting my daughter

walk all over us.  It's hard to find a good balance and I need to look into

some

books obviously and get a new therapist.

I would like to know the best way to handle it when she acts out and we can't

send her to her room to calm dawn because she can't go in there until she

showers?  She also has frequent melt downs when we are studying with her for

tests.  She was a straight A student for a few years and now 4th grade is

really

tough and her grades are slowly slipping.  It seems like she can't concentrate

well this year and we are teaching everything at home that she is not paying

attention to at school.  Is that common with OCD in kids?

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Subject: Re: New to the Group

 

Hi , I'm just peeking in at work, so only a minute, but had to welcome

you!

As I read I thought - first they need a therapist who is experienced in treating

OCD. Your's does not, that's obvious. " Be the parent " just does not work with

OCD.

The therapy for OCD is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), which actually is

used with a lot of mental health issues (e.g., depression). But it has to be

specific to OCD. Also with CBT they will do Exposure & Response (or ritual)

Prevention (ERP). You can read more about this at the OCD Foundation website.

Think it's: http://ocfoundation.org

Briefly, a therapist will help make a list of the OCD problems and then your

daughter will rank them in a hierarchy, like 1 causes the least anxiety/upset,

10 the most, etc. So then she will pick 1, 2, maybe 3 things from the low rank

to try " bossing back " OCD and working on. The rest we parents just generally

have to accommodate as the child isn't working on those OC behaviors. They can't

tackle all the OC behaviors at once, so working on 2 or so helps. And sometimes

after conquering one of the lower ones, some other behaviors may disappear or be

easier to " boss back, " get rid of. She may start, for ex, by trying to delay

washing her hands when she feels the need, see how long she can put it off

before doing it; the idea is to take longer times and hopefully that

anxiety/need-to feeling will go away; there's other ways to work on the same

issue.

It's hard work. OCD can be very controlling. It's not their fault. Generally you

don't punish for OCD but you can set limits re behavior you will allow. Kids are

going to get upset, temper, cry, etc, with OCD (along with frustration, hating

it, maybe depressed...) but you can try to be understanding and limit behavior

if it ends up with striking out at others, language they may use, throwing

things...that sort of thing.

Your daughter may like some books for children about OCD. The OCD Foundation

website has some listed there, you can find others at & Noble or other

online/local stores.

Gotta go, but glad you found our group. My son, now 22, had his start around age

11.5 and this group was my best support through it all. (still is)

single mom, 3 sons

, 22, with OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers

>

> My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

>old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD. she had mild

>symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

>year it escalated and we began looking for therapy. We have been going to " play

>therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much. When something

>gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

>and it doesn't always last. We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

> " rules " are each day and they are not consistent. The therapist says she will

>get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.

>Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering or come

>back out except to use the restroom after showering. She can't touch her toys

>without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her school lunch

>from her backpack. Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she

>cannot do homework after eating. She has ecema so all the washing is hurting

her

>skin. If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting

out

>she becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way

>out past us. Or she will have melt downs like a toddler. We never know how to

>handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

>that she should follow

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Hi and welcome,

Anxiety, OCD, and behavior problems.. Coupled with eczema.. This tells me that

your daughter has a food sensitivity.. Most likely gluten.  Has this been

investigated?

Misty

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Subject: New to the Group

 

My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD. she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy. We have been going to " play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much. When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last. We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent. The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming permanent.

Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering or come

back out except to use the restroom after showering. She can't touch her toys

without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her school lunch

from her backpack. Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she

cannot do homework after eating. She has ecema so all the washing is hurting her

skin. If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting out

she becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way

out past us. Or she will have melt downs like a toddler. We never know how to

handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I give

in a lot. I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me and

it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one? I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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, is there another room you can send her to other than her bedroom?

Kitchen or another?

How bad are her meltdowns where you want to send her from the room? Is it

possible to sort of acknowledge you know she's upset due to her OCD and how

frustrating it must be...and so on to get her to calm a bit and also lets her

know you understand. That's if you know OCD triggered it. Often if you can

pick out what triggers it, you may try to avoid them. Of course, with therapy

you don't avoid what you're working on (exposure) but if it's " homework time " or

some other time when you're not " doing OCD homework " then it can be better to

avoid triggers, stress.

I used to always want calm for homework, so didn't want something

setting him off prior to our doing it (intentionally setting off or anything we

could avoid).

Is she having trouble reading any now? OCD can affect reading. It can often

distract them, but it could also have them repeating things or doing some

compulsion while trying to read.... It can affect being able to write too. It

can affect a lot of things! I had to read to and do his writing for him

for a while. We set up a 504 Plan at school for him and had accommodations for

this, plus a few others, to help us (him, but me too, lol) while OCD was so bad.

Kids can hold back OCD while at school, try to hide it, but it generally bursts

forth once they're through the door at home. Have you noticed this with her?

> I would like to know the best way to handle it when she acts out and we can't

> send her to her room to calm dawn because she can't go in there until she

> showers?  She also has frequent melt downs when we are studying with her for

> tests.  She was a straight A student for a few years and now 4th grade is

really

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if you have any suspicions you can always cut out the foods w/out even testing

her.  We did that and found an immediate difference w/in a week.  He feels so

much different/better that he is a better label reader than I am.  He does not

want that in his system at all.    Good luck w/it, it is a drag to have to cut

foods out but it is so worth it if it makes things

better...................................Larkellen

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Subject: New to the Group

To:

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 1:18 PM

My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD.  she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy.  We have been going to " play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much.  When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last.  We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent.  The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.  Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering

or come back out except to use the restroom after showering.  She can't touch

her toys without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her

school lunch from her

backpack.  Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she cannot do

homework after eating.  She has ecema so all the washing is hurting her skin. 

If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting out she

becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way out

past us.  Or she will have melt downs like a toddler.  We never know how to

handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I give

in a lot.  I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me and

it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one?  I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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Yes, eliminating is the next best thing to testing ..  But be aware that most

of

these food sensitivites trigger an IgG delayed onset response.. This means she

may be reacting to something she ate a week ago!  A food diary would help.  I

have one I made up (but never used) if anyone would like me to share it here.

The basic idea of food elimination trials.. Is you eliminate all food

allergens... dairy, gluten, soy, eggs, corn, and nuts.. Then challenge them one

at a time to check for behavioral responses (and digestive issues if you have

that).  Cut out everything for at least a month before challenging.

Most behaviors come from gluten, dairy, soy, and corn.. So I would do those over

any others.  My kids are fine with corn, but not the other three.

Misty

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if you have any suspicions you can always cut out the foods w/out even testing

her.  We did that and found an immediate difference w/in a week.  He feels so

much different/better that he is a better label reader than I am.  He does not

want that in his system at all.    Good luck w/it, it is a drag to have to

cut

foods out but it is so worth it if it makes things

better...................................Larkellen

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Subject: New to the Group

To:

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 1:18 PM

My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD.  she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy.  We have been going to

" play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much.  When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last.  We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent.  The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.  Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without

showering

or come back out except to use the restroom after showering.  She can't touch

her toys without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her

school lunch from her

backpack.  Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she cannot do

homework after eating.  She has ecema so all the washing is hurting her skin. 

If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting out she

becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way out

past us.  Or she will have melt downs like a toddler.  We never know how to

handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I give

in a lot.  I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me

and

it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one?  I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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Hi , I'm glad you found this group. Our local group, as you have

found, is rather quiet. You've gotten some great ideas on diet changes and I

hope that brings relief quickly. You can use this website to find local

therapists who are familiar with OCD.

http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php

If you still want to get together, post on the other group and we can work

something out.

Beth

>

> My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD.

> I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one? I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

>

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Hi ,

I'm sorry to hear about the struggles that your daughter and you as well as

your family is facing. My son is 9 with Tourettes, OCD, severe food

allergies, and he has also been tested as having a gifted IQ. For us, the IQ

also means he has a lot of anxiety and performance issues as well the

sensitivities that come with OCD.

This past year we were having a really hard time because the OCD was

becoming a safety issue. He was chewing wood and now metal. Our fantastic

neurologist put him on Fluvoxamine and recommended CBT therapy.

After talking to the therapist, she recommended family therapy while using

CBT for . She incorporates them together which is great because he has

a younger brother who comes as well. She figures that it's best to deal with

this as a family since it affects the whole family. It's also proven to be

great for because he sees that he's getting support from the whole

family and that he's not alone.

It's also great for me because, without her knowing it (or maybe she's

figured it out and hasn't said anything), but I suffer from depression and

anxiety as well.

I agree that you should get her tested for food allergies. In the meantime,

if you already limit your diet you can limit hers as well. If you both limit

the same things and you tell her you're doing this with her, it might help.

With , he's had a hard time this past year because he just realized how

different he is from most people. I'm sure that it doesn't help when you

feel like you're that isolated.

Good luck.

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and can I add in that dyes are common and my son says he feels worse/more

anxiety if he has dyes than corn

products.................................Larkellen

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To:

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 1:18 PM

My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD.  she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy.  We have been going to " play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much.  When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last.  We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent.  The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.  Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering

or come back out except to use the restroom after showering.  She can't touch

her toys without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her

school lunch from her

backpack.  Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she cannot do

homework after eating.  She has ecema so all the washing is hurting her skin. 

If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting out she

becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way out

past us.  Or she will have melt downs like a toddler.  We never know how to

handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I give

in a lot.  I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me and

it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one?  I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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Yes we do send her to the kitchen when she gets out of control because the

therapist made us feel like she was just acting out to get attention.  I am

feeling really guilty today because I called the play therapist last night made

up an excuse why we cannot go tonight because I was too afraid to cancel

completely with her.  I want time to research this and I have to do things in

small doses becuase I get anxiety too which makes me overwelmed and sometimes

slows me down.  She did not seem happy about me questioning her whether my

daughter has OCD or not and was quick to say that in her opinion just has

generalized anxiety becuase otherwise her behavior would be more consitent! 

Consistent?  What does she call washing her hands constantly, having to shower

every night(when she hated to shower a few months ago) and not being able to

touch certain items to others, and not being able to go in her bedroom until

after showering, or brush her own teeth, or put on her own shoes because of

germs???I just feel this therapist(who is suspiciously easy to get in to see at

a moments notice)just needs clients and doesn't have the training to diagnose or

treat my child.  This also depresses me because I feel it's my fault she hasn't

got the help she really needs for months now.  I will look into the allergy

testing this week.  We have TriCare and it is easy to get approved and the

testing is covered, I just need to get brave.

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Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 5:01:21 PM

Subject: Re: New to the Group

 

, is there another room you can send her to other than her bedroom?

Kitchen or another?

How bad are her meltdowns where you want to send her from the room? Is it

possible to sort of acknowledge you know she's upset due to her OCD and how

frustrating it must be...and so on to get her to calm a bit and also lets her

know you understand. That's if you know OCD triggered it. Often if you can pick

out what triggers it, you may try to avoid them. Of course, with therapy you

don't avoid what you're working on (exposure) but if it's " homework time " or

some other time when you're not " doing OCD homework " then it can be better to

avoid triggers, stress.

I used to always want calm for homework, so didn't want something

setting him off prior to our doing it (intentionally setting off or anything we

could avoid).

Is she having trouble reading any now? OCD can affect reading. It can often

distract them, but it could also have them repeating things or doing some

compulsion while trying to read.... It can affect being able to write too. It

can affect a lot of things! I had to read to and do his writing for him

for a while. We set up a 504 Plan at school for him and had accommodations for

this, plus a few others, to help us (him, but me too, lol) while OCD was so bad.

Kids can hold back OCD while at school, try to hide it, but it generally bursts

forth once they're through the door at home. Have you noticed this with her?

> I would like to know the best way to handle it when she acts out and we can't

> send her to her room to calm dawn because she can't go in there until she

> showers?  She also has frequent melt downs when we are studying with her

for

> tests.  She was a straight A student for a few years and now 4th grade is

>really

>

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You have Tricare??? That's awesome!  We are military and have Tricare as

well. 

Great Plains Labs is Tricare covered.  They paid 100% of our IgG food allergy

testing.  Let me know if you have questions.. GET BRAVE GIRL!!!!!!

Misty

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Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 10:03:33 AM

Subject: Re: Re: New to the Group

 

Yes we do send her to the kitchen when she gets out of control because the

therapist made us feel like she was just acting out to get attention.  I am

feeling really guilty today because I called the play therapist last night made

up an excuse why we cannot go tonight because I was too afraid to cancel

completely with her.  I want time to research this and I have to do things in

small doses becuase I get anxiety too which makes me overwelmed and sometimes

slows me down.  She did not seem happy about me questioning her whether my

daughter has OCD or not and was quick to say that in her opinion just has

generalized anxiety becuase otherwise her behavior would be more consitent! 

Consistent?  What does she call washing her hands constantly, having to shower

every night(when she hated to shower a few months ago) and not being able to

touch certain items to others, and not being able to go in her bedroom until

after showering, or brush her own teeth, or put on her own shoes because of

germs???I just feel this therapist(who is suspiciously easy to get in to see at

a moments notice)just needs clients and doesn't have the training to diagnose or

treat my child.  This also depresses me because I feel it's my fault she hasn't

got the help she really needs for months now.  I will look into the allergy

testing this week.  We have TriCare and it is easy to get approved and the

testing is covered, I just need to get brave.

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 5:01:21 PM

Subject: Re: New to the Group

 

, is there another room you can send her to other than her bedroom?

Kitchen or another?

How bad are her meltdowns where you want to send her from the room? Is it

possible to sort of acknowledge you know she's upset due to her OCD and how

frustrating it must be...and so on to get her to calm a bit and also lets her

know you understand. That's if you know OCD triggered it. Often if you can pick

out what triggers it, you may try to avoid them. Of course, with therapy you

don't avoid what you're working on (exposure) but if it's " homework time " or

some other time when you're not " doing OCD homework " then it can be better to

avoid triggers, stress.

I used to always want calm for homework, so didn't want something

setting him off prior to our doing it (intentionally setting off or anything we

could avoid).

Is she having trouble reading any now? OCD can affect reading. It can often

distract them, but it could also have them repeating things or doing some

compulsion while trying to read.... It can affect being able to write too. It

can affect a lot of things! I had to read to and do his writing for him

for a while. We set up a 504 Plan at school for him and had accommodations for

this, plus a few others, to help us (him, but me too, lol) while OCD was so bad.

Kids can hold back OCD while at school, try to hide it, but it generally bursts

forth once they're through the door at home. Have you noticed this with her?

> I would like to know the best way to handle it when she acts out and we can't

> send her to her room to calm dawn because she can't go in there until she

> showers?  She also has frequent melt downs when we are studying with her

for

> tests.  She was a straight A student for a few years and now 4th grade is

>really

>

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   Hi,    I agree with your comprehension of food sensitivity to OCD.  

The IgG

blood test is a good indicator for food intolerances that appear over

            time symptoms that are not recognized at first.   Two

books I have

read that have helped understand how food relates to the brain is:

            The Acid Aklaine Balance Diet by Felicia Drury

Klimet.   I was able

to get it through my library. 

             Eat Right for your Bloodtype  Dr. J. D'

Adamo.    Both books

give me support about the physical component in the mental state of

             OCD.    Thanks for sharing.   

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Subject: Re: New to the Group

 

Hi. I am wondering if you have looked into food allergies as exacerbating your

daughter's symptoms.   The reason I ask is you said some foods make her feel

" greasy " and the fact that she has eczema.  .   W/my 12 yr old ds, he

complained

constantly of his forehead " itching " when he was feeling stress.   Since we

have

taken him off of all corn product and all dyes, he rarely complains of that and

his anxiety is down but not gone.  We still deal w/OCD every day but it is far

less than when we started down this road.  There could be other foods like

dairy

also that affect your daughter.  It is a common allergen associated

w/eczema.   

Just some thoughts.   I am so sorry.  I know OCD takes a toll on the whole

family........................................Larkellen

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Subject: New to the Group

To:

Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 1:18 PM

My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD.  she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy.  We have been going to

" play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much.  When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last.  We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent.  The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.  Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without

showering

or come back out except to use the restroom after showering.  She can't touch

her toys without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her

school lunch from her

backpack.  Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she cannot do

homework after eating.  She has ecema so all the washing is hurting her skin. 

If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting out she

becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way out

past us.  Or she will have melt downs like a toddler.  We never know how to

handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I give

in a lot.  I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me

and

it adding to my constant worrying.

I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one?  I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

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Welcome to the group, .

I see told you about CBT/ERP. We went to many therapists over the years,

with our son (now 18), who tried many different things to treat his OCD

(including play therapy). Nothing helped until we found a therapist who used

CBT/ERP.

There aren't a lot of therapists who truly understand OCD, so they can be hard

to find.

I don't know how close this therapist is to you, but others have recommended her

in this group. And a friend of mine uses her for her daughter and really likes

her. Hopefully she isn't too far away from you. If she is, she might be able

to recommend someone closer to you.

http://www.lrwalker.net/

From reading Dr. Wagner's book, the explosive fits of rage aren't OCD, but it

seems they often go hand in hand with it.

I found, when our son was young, and fearful of something, he would fight like

he was fighting for his very life.

There is a book some in here have talked about, called The Explosive Child. I

wonder if you might find some helpful information in it to cope with her fits of

rage.

Once the OCD is more under control, the rage can subside, for some.

Our son also has eczema. It was MUCH worse when he was younger. We " literally "

held him down and had him allergy tested. Nothing came back as an allergy, no

food, nothing in the environment, nothing.

Since then, he's been tested a number of times more, yet the tests always come

back as him not being allergic to anything. Yet, he reacts to things. I've

come to the conclusion that he is sensitive to things, but not to the degree

that it shows up as an allergy.

I watched him closely, and if I noticed anything in particular that was setting

him off, that was an obviously known allergen, I would eliminate that from his

diet, to try to prevent reactions.

There can be many parts to the puzzle of trying to figure out what is making

your child sick, but the first line of treatment, recommended, by the experts in

the field of OCD, is CBT/ERP (cognitive behavioral therapy / exposure and

response prevention).

Glad you found our group.

BJ

>

> My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD. she had mild

symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

year it escalated and we began looking for therapy. We have been going to " play

therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much. When something

gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

and it doesn't always last. We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

" rules " are each day and they are not consistent. The therapist says she will

get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming permanent.

Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering or come

back out except to use the restroom after showering. She can't touch her toys

without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her school lunch

from her backpack. Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she

cannot do homework after eating. She has ecema so all the washing is hurting

her skin. If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is

acting out she becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw

her way out past us. Or she will have melt downs like a toddler. We never know

how to handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent "

and that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I

give in a lot. I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for

me and it adding to my constant worrying.

> I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

parents of kids with OCD if there is one? I have felt very alone dealing with

this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

sacrafice for my daughter to go.

>

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BJ

That therapist looks great but she is probably 1 - 1 1/2 hours from here but I

think I will call and see if they have a referral to someone closer.  I live a

few miles south of Disneyland in Orange County.  The trick is finding someone

who takes Tricare.  It's not easy to find someone good who takes that because

they get less money from the Ins but we pay $25 per appointment.  

More and more she seems overwelmed easily and when we try to control her she is

getting more and more angry and talking back.  She is very smart and also gets

overwelmed very quickly.  She gets distracted a lot in class day dreaming or

gets bored sometimes so she doesn't pay attention.  Then at home she is very

difficult to teach because she tunes us out, so it takes many hours to simply do

what should be a few minutes.  I am wondering if on top of OCD she may have ADD

or something causing the frustration.  She has had a rough life.  Her

biological

father(my ex who I left and divorced 5 1/2 years ago) was verbally abusive to me

and violent towards objects in our home and she witnessed that when she was

little.  That is where I developed my panic attacks and anxiety.  I think I

may

suffer Post Traumatic Stress.  I really believe he is bi polar and refuses to

get help but that is another story. 

I am really thankful to have found this group because to be honest this is still

very new to me and I am still really having trouble coming to terms with the

fact that my little girl has a lot of issues to face and it breaks my heart to

see her suffering. 

No one on this site has mentioned if there are any face to face meetings ever in

this area?  Does anyone know of any?  It would just be great to get together

once a month face to face to hear everyone share about how they survive through

these challenges.

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Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 12:23:09 PM

Subject: Re: New to the Group

 

Welcome to the group, .

I see told you about CBT/ERP. We went to many therapists over the years,

with our son (now 18), who tried many different things to treat his OCD

(including play therapy). Nothing helped until we found a therapist who used

CBT/ERP.

There aren't a lot of therapists who truly understand OCD, so they can be hard

to find.

I don't know how close this therapist is to you, but others have recommended her

in this group. And a friend of mine uses her for her daughter and really likes

her. Hopefully she isn't too far away from you. If she is, she might be able to

recommend someone closer to you.

http://www.lrwalker.net/

From reading Dr. Wagner's book, the explosive fits of rage aren't OCD, but it

seems they often go hand in hand with it.

I found, when our son was young, and fearful of something, he would fight like

he was fighting for his very life.

There is a book some in here have talked about, called The Explosive Child. I

wonder if you might find some helpful information in it to cope with her fits of

rage.

Once the OCD is more under control, the rage can subside, for some.

Our son also has eczema. It was MUCH worse when he was younger. We " literally "

held him down and had him allergy tested. Nothing came back as an allergy, no

food, nothing in the environment, nothing.

Since then, he's been tested a number of times more, yet the tests always come

back as him not being allergic to anything. Yet, he reacts to things. I've come

to the conclusion that he is sensitive to things, but not to the degree that it

shows up as an allergy.

I watched him closely, and if I noticed anything in particular that was setting

him off, that was an obviously known allergen, I would eliminate that from his

diet, to try to prevent reactions.

There can be many parts to the puzzle of trying to figure out what is making

your child sick, but the first line of treatment, recommended, by the experts in

the field of OCD, is CBT/ERP (cognitive behavioral therapy / exposure and

response prevention).

Glad you found our group.

BJ

>

> My name is and I am desperate to get some support because my 9 year

>old daughter is beginning to show more and more signs of OCD. she had mild

>symptoms that would go away for the past few years after school starts but this

>year it escalated and we began looking for therapy. We have been going to " play

>therapy " for a few months but I don't think it is helping much. When something

>gets better it is because my daughter decided to do something different

>and it doesn't always last. We are very stressed trying to figure out what the

> " rules " are each day and they are not consistent. The therapist says she will

>get over it when she chooses but all I see is the behaviors becomming

permanent.

>Mostly she washes her hands a lot, can't go to bed without showering or come

>back out except to use the restroom after showering. She can't touch her toys

>without showering and she keeps many belongings separate like her school lunch

>from her backpack. Also different foods make her feel she is greasy so she

>cannot do homework after eating. She has ecema so all the washing is hurting

her

>skin. If we try to change anything or put her in her room when she is acting

out

>she becomes out of control like a wild animal and will literally claw her way

>out past us. Or she will have melt downs like a toddler. We never know how to

>handle any of this and are just told by the therapist to " be the parent " and

>that she should follow our rules but I cannot stand to see her hurting so I

give

>in a lot. I also have anxiety/panic attacks and so this is very hard for me and

>it adding to my constant worrying.

> I would really love to find a face to face support group in Orange County for

>parents of kids with OCD if there is one? I have felt very alone dealing with

>this and I am overwelmed and cannot afford for myself to get therapy but we

>sacrafice for my daughter to go.

>

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