Taking supplement NAC: Was bad response to increasing SSRI

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My 14 year old takes a very dose of Abilify to supplement his Zoloft. It helps

to tame his aggression that Zoloft increases. I just started him on NAC

(n-acetyl H-cysteine), an over the counter amino acid, per his psychiatrist. The

capsules he takes also contain vitamin C as NAC can deplete stores of this

vitamin. His psychiatrist has seen recent studies showing improvement in mood in

kids like mine and several of his patients have improved on it. I got the order

over the phone so when I see him next I'll have him clarify if this also will

help his OCD. I looked it up and it seems to help the immune system. This doc is

the second psychiatrist my son has seen who believes strongly, although it has

not been proven, that the origins of childhood onset OCD is in the immune system

(although not always PANDAS). I started my son on NAC a few days ago and

yesterday I saw an improvement in agression/mood. Probably too soon to tell

though. Has anyone else heard of NAC or tried it?

Anita

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is in a medication study but I am pretty sure it is less than 100mg.

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> > > > They increased her dose at one point and her whole personality

changed...I was told that she was " activated " and experiencing " mania " and it

lasted a week then she seemed more like herself. The next medication chage the

same thing happened and it lasted about a week also. Recently we decreased her

meds and it happened again. I dont know if you are willing to stick it out for a

week but we did and it worked out for us but everyones situation is different. I

think that you have to give these drugs more than a day but you know in your

heart what is best.

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Hi, my 14 year old daughter is on Zoloft and shes been on Abilify for about 5

days.  Does your son have any side effects?

Lindsey has had bad side effects from anti psychotics,but so far so good on the

abilfy.  She does not have aggression,but severe OCD.

Jennie

Taking supplement NAC: Was bad response to increasing

SSRI

 

My 14 year old takes a very dose of Abilify to supplement his Zoloft. It helps

to tame his aggression that Zoloft increases. I just started him on NAC

(n-acetyl H-cysteine), an over the counter amino acid, per his psychiatrist. The

capsules he takes also contain vitamin C as NAC can deplete stores of this

vitamin. His psychiatrist has seen recent studies showing improvement in mood in

kids like mine and several of his patients have improved on it. I got the order

over the phone so when I see him next I'll have him clarify if this also will

help his OCD. I looked it up and it seems to help the immune system. This doc is

the second psychiatrist my son has seen who believes strongly, although it has

not been proven, that the origins of childhood onset OCD is in the immune system

(although not always PANDAS). I started my son on NAC a few days ago and

yesterday I saw an improvement in agression/mood. Probably too soon to tell

though. Has anyone else heard of NAC or tried it?

Anita

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> > > > My daughter is on Zoloft, she is 12, I do not know the dose because she

is in a medication study but I am pretty sure it is less than 100mg.

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> > > > They increased her dose at one point and her whole personality

changed...I was told that she was " activated " and experiencing " mania " and it

lasted a week then she seemed more like herself. The next medication chage the

same thing happened and it lasted about a week also. Recently we decreased her

meds and it happened again. I dont know if you are willing to stick it out for a

week but we did and it worked out for us but everyones situation is different. I

think that you have to give these drugs more than a day but you know in your

heart what is best.

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Anita, I'd heard of NAC but had to look it up. Found this:

NAC (the stable form of the amino acid cysteine) is a powerhouse of a supplement

with potent antioxidant activity. In addition to combating exercise-induced

damage to muscle tissue, it helps detoxify the liver, build connective tissue,

fight viral infections, and combat the effects of age. And these are only the

highlights!

--so I would guess that the viral infections part would help with any immune

system problem related.

Also found this mention (among others) for OCD:

Other studies have even suggested that NAC reduces the symptoms of schizophrenia

(Biol. Psychiatry 64 (5): 361–8) and bipolar disorders (Biol. Psychiatry 64 (6):

468–75). This was determined in 2 placebo controlled trials. NAC is also

currently undergoing clinical trial in the United States for the treatment of

Obsessive-compulsive disorder. NAC is thought to counteract the glutamate

hyperactivity in patients with Obsessive Compulsive Disorders (OCD).

-- I'm interested in any results you see whether OCD or not. Like the

agression/mood improvement.

Just FYI for everyone, I did see some cautions about NAC (tho cautions may be

too strong a word) so be sure to look at your particular situation, anything

else your child is taking, health issues, if you are thinking of trying it.

e.g., if hx of ulcers or if taking certain abx....

I like that doctors are looking at supplements now!

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> My 14 year old takes a very dose of Abilify to supplement his Zoloft. It helps

to tame his aggression that Zoloft increases. I just started him on NAC

(n-acetyl H-cysteine), an over the counter amino acid, per his psychiatrist. The

capsules he takes also contain

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Not sure about Abilify side effects - none that I know of. He's on a very low

dose (2.5 mg. 2x a day). I know the aggression comes from the Zoloft as he was

on this once before and had the aggression. He tried other SSRI's as a result,

but none could combat the OCD as Zoloft did. He also tried other anti-psychotics

with disastrous side effects - made him delusional, paranoid, very agressive,

etc. Every body chemistry is different.

Anita

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> > > > > My daughter is on Zoloft, she is 12, I do not know the dose because

she is in a medication study but I am pretty sure it is less than 100mg.

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> > > > > They increased her dose at one point and her whole personality

changed...I was told that she was " activated " and experiencing " mania " and it

lasted a week then she seemed more like herself. The next medication chage the

same thing happened and it lasted about a week also. Recently we decreased her

meds and it happened again. I dont know if you are willing to stick it out for a

week but we did and it worked out for us but everyones situation is different. I

think that you have to give these drugs more than a day but you know in your

heart what is best.

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My son who is on 100 mg. of Zoloft for a year now was just put on 2 mg. of

Abilify last mo. He was on it for 3 weeks when I demanded that we take him off

it. My doctor wanted to give it more time,but he was not doing well on it. He

was crying like a baby a few times a day,he never cries. He was also very

angry.He had more aggression than I had ever seen him have before. Talking to

him about anything was really hard. He has been off it about 1.5 weeks and is

back to himself. Abilify was not for him.

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she is in a medication study but I am pretty sure it is less than 100mg.

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changed...I was told that she was " activated " and experiencing " mania " and it

lasted a week then she seemed more like herself. The next medication chage the

same thing happened and it lasted about a week also. Recently we decreased her

meds and it happened again. I dont know if you are willing to stick it out for a

week but we did and it worked out for us but everyones situation is different. I

think that you have to give these drugs more than a day but you know in your

heart what is best.

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This line is interesting. . .

" NAC is thought to counteract the glutamate

hyperactivity in patients with Obsessive Compulsive Disorders (OCD) "

BJ

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> Anita, I'd heard of NAC but had to look it up. Found this:

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> NAC (the stable form of the amino acid cysteine) is a powerhouse of a

supplement with potent antioxidant activity. In addition to combating

exercise-induced damage to muscle tissue, it helps detoxify the liver, build

connective tissue, fight viral infections, and combat the effects of age. And

these are only the highlights!

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> --so I would guess that the viral infections part would help with any immune

system problem related.

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> Also found this mention (among others) for OCD:

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> Other studies have even suggested that NAC reduces the symptoms of

schizophrenia (Biol. Psychiatry 64 (5): 361–8) and bipolar disorders (Biol.

Psychiatry 64 (6): 468–75). This was determined in 2 placebo controlled trials.

NAC is also currently undergoing clinical trial in the United States for the

treatment of Obsessive-compulsive disorder. NAC is thought to counteract the

glutamate hyperactivity in patients with Obsessive Compulsive Disorders (OCD).

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> -- I'm interested in any results you see whether OCD or not. Like the

agression/mood improvement.

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> Just FYI for everyone, I did see some cautions about NAC (tho cautions may be

too strong a word) so be sure to look at your particular situation, anything

else your child is taking, health issues, if you are thinking of trying it.

e.g., if hx of ulcers or if taking certain abx....

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> I like that doctors are looking at supplements now!

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