alternatives to forced sterlization

[Guest guest]

Hey all, I hope I'm not starting a major flame war here, but I just

had a thought & am curious what everyone thinks, esp those on

spectrum. I know some people feel hysterectomy is the only choice

because of significant issues with lack of toileting, etc. I know

others of us feel this is not a choice but still have concerns with

birth control. I remember hearing something about a new procedure

where rings can be placed around the uterine tubes (fallopian tubes)

as sort of like a non-permanent birth control method. Got me thinking

about it for our girls. I know for me (and I'm not telling anyone else

they're wrong, just my personal situation/feelings for Allie) I feel

that procreation is Allie's choice to make one day. However, birth

control will probably become more of an issue as she gets older and

might have intercourse before she should. Seems like the rings might

be a good choice because of no hormonal side effects and the ability

to reverse.

Any thoughts?

Debi

[Guest guest]

I'd worry about the surgery in someone who scars

easily *looks at HUGE 5 inch keloid on ankle* but I

think it's WITHOUT A DOUBT a better alternative to

hysterectomy, and probably better than birth control.

Birth control messes with moods and bone density and

such.

It'd be worth looking into, especially as its non

permanant, and taking away the choice of giving life

doesnt seem fair to me. I may be opting away from

having my own kids in favor of adopting when the time

is right b/c of MY inheritable weirdnesses (not the

autism so much, other stuff) but I sure wouldnt want

someone irrevocably making that decision for me.

Especially not when I was a child.

(besides, oh heavens how I scar...this sounds

laparaoscopic...)

Good topic, Debi! thought provoking.

Kassiane

--- Debi wrote:

> Hey all, I hope I'm not starting a major flame war

> here, but I just

> had a thought & am curious what everyone thinks, esp

> those on

> spectrum. I know some people feel hysterectomy is

> the only choice

> because of significant issues with lack of

> toileting, etc. I know

> others of us feel this is not a choice but still

> have concerns with

> birth control. I remember hearing something about a

> new procedure

> where rings can be placed around the uterine tubes

> (fallopian tubes)

> as sort of like a non-permanent birth control

> method. Got me thinking

> about it for our girls. I know for me (and I'm not

> telling anyone else

> they're wrong, just my personal situation/feelings

> for Allie) I feel

> that procreation is Allie's choice to make one day.

> However, birth

> control will probably become more of an issue as she

> gets older and

> might have intercourse before she should. Seems like

> the rings might

> be a good choice because of no hormonal side effects

> and the ability

> to reverse.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Debi

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think that we all should be very careful in weighing the options

before we as parents even think of going to sterilization :C I hate

that word sterilization. I am going to be goin the avenue of

depoprovera for my daughter for her periods. Proper care of herself

etc... she will be unable to care for herself and the school where she

is at wouldnt be able to help her at all. I am praying that we dont

have any type of increase of behaviors with this medication, but as

with all meds that I have been dealing with with both my daughter no

one knows how they will respond to them. I have close to a year and a

half before all this starts but it is a hard decisoin to make. I think

that Kassie is doing wonderful with her choices in life I hope one day

that both my girls are so very capable of caring for themselves as you

are Kassie. I think the idea of the ring sounds like a good thing as

well. Glad there are so many parents that dont automatically say oh we

cant do anything but sterilize I know there are some that do and that

is there choice but with all the side effects and other health issuse

that go along with sterilization it would scare me even to go there.

Any how good thoughts both of you. Thanks for letting me blab

[Guest guest]

I think that we all should be very careful in weighing the options

before we as parents even think of going to sterilization :C I hate

that word sterilization. I am going to be goin the avenue of

depoprovera for my daughter for her periods. Proper care of herself

etc... she will be unable to care for herself and the school where she

is at wouldnt be able to help her at all. I am praying that we dont

have any type of increase of behaviors with this medication, but as

with all meds that I have been dealing with with both my daughter no

one knows how they will respond to them. I have close to a year and a

half before all this starts but it is a hard decisoin to make. I think

that Kassie is doing wonderful with her choices in life I hope one day

that both my girls are so very capable of caring for themselves as you

are Kassie. I think the idea of the ring sounds like a good thing as

well. Glad there are so many parents that dont automatically say oh we

cant do anything but sterilize I know there are some that do and that

is there choice but with all the side effects and other health issuse

that go along with sterilization it would scare me even to go there.

Any how good thoughts both of you. Thanks for letting me blab

[Guest guest]

I too am glad to hear that many parents do not wish to

go the rout of sterilization. I know I still have a

little while left, but my oldest is 6 now and I

started my menses at age 8 so I know that the whole

period junk is not too far off. I still do not have my

daughter potty trained, so the thought of her period

is very frightening, but I refuse to use any form of

birth control on her. Not because I am against planned

births or anything like that, but strictly due to the

damaging effects that the modern birth control can

give anyone, let alone those with sensitive immune

systems.

Please consider reading the article at the following

website:

http://www.spiritofhealing.com/articles/html/menopause.htm

I am only 27 years old as of last month and yet I am

already going through menapause. I firmly believe that

birth control is a huge part of why and the fact that

I too have a sensative and damaged immune system and

body.

Please, before you make a choice like this for your

child, read the article I linked and at least try to

research and look into what it is saying. You will

find a wealth of information.

My doctors are still trying to help me get my period

back and there is a lot of damage that can happen to

the rest of your organs and system when one thing is

messed up and out of sync.

I am sorry I don't have more time to write and explain

more right now, but wanted you to know this much.

Sincerely, Esther

--- agirls2003 wrote:

> I think that we all should be very careful in

> weighing the options

> before we as parents even think of going to

> sterilization :C I hate

> that word sterilization. I am going to be goin the

> avenue of

> depoprovera for my daughter for her periods. Proper

> care of herself

> etc... she will be unable to care for herself and

> the school where she

> is at wouldnt be able to help her at all. I am

> praying that we dont

> have any type of increase of behaviors with this

> medication, but as

> with all meds that I have been dealing with with

> both my daughter no

> one knows how they will respond to them. I have

> close to a year and a

> half before all this starts but it is a hard

> decisoin to make. I think

> that Kassie is doing wonderful with her choices in

> life I hope one day

> that both my girls are so very capable of caring for

> themselves as you

> are Kassie. I think the idea of the ring sounds

> like a good thing as

> well. Glad there are so many parents that dont

> automatically say oh we

> cant do anything but sterilize I know there are some

> that do and that

> is there choice but with all the side effects and

> other health issuse

> that go along with sterilization it would scare me

> even to go there.

> Any how good thoughts both of you. Thanks for

> letting me blab

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

we are looking at a new form of IUD for my oldest daughter since she

already became of a mom at a teen age years. we are thinking this is of

the best option as it protects her for 5 years unless she herself wants

of it removed to have another baby in her future. I to forget the name

of it but it is much a safer option for her because we too not want of

her to have of too much hormone, and or to do anythings permanent as

she often things of maybe someday in her life to have another baby but

not now. Delaney is of already to keep of her much busy.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

we are looking at a new form of IUD for my oldest daughter since she

already became of a mom at a teen age years. we are thinking this is of

the best option as it protects her for 5 years unless she herself wants

of it removed to have another baby in her future. I to forget the name

of it but it is much a safer option for her because we too not want of

her to have of too much hormone, and or to do anythings permanent as

she often things of maybe someday in her life to have another baby but

not now. Delaney is of already to keep of her much busy.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

I to forgot to be to add that for me could nver to take of the pills

because even with the first dose of them within 24 hours will begin

excessive vomotting and shakey feelings and it will last until the

poison to me is of out and thenfor many days after wards carry the

nausea.

Later in life they tried of the patch. it caused me great moods of sad,

it too if it was placed any where besides of my tummy would cause the

same reaction as the pills. so for me hormone based things makes of me

very ill and cant funciton on them. but the monthlies of me can cuase

so much other issues they were of trying to calm me in them but it did

not work for me.

My missy is on a low dose of the pill things to help calm of hers as

she was having monthlies that last 10 or more days and then would

return again about 10 days later. she was having them 2 x per month.

too much for a young girl on spectrum to cope with. so we had to help

of her.

sondra

[Guest guest]

I to forgot to be to add that for me could nver to take of the pills

because even with the first dose of them within 24 hours will begin

excessive vomotting and shakey feelings and it will last until the

poison to me is of out and thenfor many days after wards carry the

nausea.

Later in life they tried of the patch. it caused me great moods of sad,

it too if it was placed any where besides of my tummy would cause the

same reaction as the pills. so for me hormone based things makes of me

very ill and cant funciton on them. but the monthlies of me can cuase

so much other issues they were of trying to calm me in them but it did

not work for me.

My missy is on a low dose of the pill things to help calm of hers as

she was having monthlies that last 10 or more days and then would

return again about 10 days later. she was having them 2 x per month.

too much for a young girl on spectrum to cope with. so we had to help

of her.

sondra

[Guest guest]

It's called Mirena. I know a lot of women who use it and have been

very happy with it, but it's only prescribed to women who have already

had one baby. So it would be perfect for Aimee, but probably not for

most of the other girls on this list.

Amnesty

>

> we are looking at a new form of IUD for my oldest daughter since she

> already became of a mom at a teen age years. we are thinking this is of

> the best option as it protects her for 5 years unless she herself wants

> of it removed to have another baby in her future. I to forget the name

> of it but it is much a safer option for her because we too not want of

> her to have of too much hormone, and or to do anythings permanent as

> she often things of maybe someday in her life to have another baby but

> not now. Delaney is of already to keep of her much busy.

> Sondra

>

[Guest guest]

It's called Mirena. I know a lot of women who use it and have been

very happy with it, but it's only prescribed to women who have already

had one baby. So it would be perfect for Aimee, but probably not for

most of the other girls on this list.

Amnesty

>

> we are looking at a new form of IUD for my oldest daughter since she

> already became of a mom at a teen age years. we are thinking this is of

> the best option as it protects her for 5 years unless she herself wants

> of it removed to have another baby in her future. I to forget the name

> of it but it is much a safer option for her because we too not want of

> her to have of too much hormone, and or to do anythings permanent as

> she often things of maybe someday in her life to have another baby but

> not now. Delaney is of already to keep of her much busy.

> Sondra

>