[OT?} Bird Flu Update: Even Scientists are seeing the hoax

[Guest guest]

This bird flu thread may be off-topic, but I think that it is

relevant because the bird flu meme is likely to be used to try

eliminate small, independent food providers, including small,

independent dairy providers.

- Jerome

Here's a recent article by Jon Rappaport, who has been following

the " bird flu " story for many months:

Title BIRD FLU UPDATE: EVEN SCIENTISTS ARE SEEING THE HOAX

Release Date 2005-11-29

NOVEMBER 14, 2005. Here is a very telling snip from a recent NY Times article

about bird flu and the " dreaded " H5N1 virus.

Hazards in the hunt for flu bug

By Kolata

The New York Times

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2005

From near the end of the article...

" Some experts like Palese of the Mount Sinai School

of Medicine in New York said the H5N1 viruses are a false

alarm. He notes that studies of serum collected in 1992

from people in rural China indicated that millions there

had antibodies to the H5N1 strain. That means they had been

infected with an H5N1 bird virus and recovered, apparently

without incident. "

Do you get what this means? First of all, going back as far as 1992, millions of

Chinese people had antibodies to H5N1. That's 13 years ago, and although you

might expect that hundreds of thousands of these people would have come down

with an " H5N1 illness, " THEY DIDN'T.

Actually, as Palese points out, you WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET

SICK, BECAUSE ANTIBODIES ARE A SIGN THAT PEOPLE PUT UP A SUCCESSFUL IMMUNE

RESPONSE TO THE GERM AND STAYED HEALTHY. THAT'S WHAT ANTIBODIES ARE ALL ABOUT.

This fact is devastating to the scare propaganda about bird flu. Devastating.

To add even more fuel to the fire, as I documented in a recent article, the main

type of testing for H5N1 in both animals and people around the world is TESTING

FOR ANTIBODIES.

This is fraud, outright fraud: INTERPRET A SIGN OF HEALTH (ANTIBODIES) AS A SIGN

OF ILLNESS.

I can spell out the fraud a little further. Take some virus, give it a name, and

then baldly assume, without evidence, that it is very dangerous. Then, check to

see if people and animals have antibodies to it. If they do, you say, " Well, you

see, we have direct evidence that people have been encountering this highly

dangerous virus. After all, they're making antibodies to it. That means they

contacted the germ. So there is a good chance they are sick or will get sick... "

Mad. Insane. Absurd. THERE WAS NO REASON TO ASSUME THAT THE GERM WAS DANGEROUS

IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN FACT, THE PRESENCE OF ANTIBODIES TOLD YOU THAT. IT TOLD

YOU THAT THESE PEOPLE'S IMMUNE SYSTEMS HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE GERM AT ALL.

So why have 64 people died from H5N1 in Asia? THERE IS EVERY REASON TO SUSPECT

THEY DIDN'T DIE FROM H5N1.

To do good science, you have to go back and check, in great detail, what was

happening to these people. What other medical conditions did they have? What

drugs were they taking? Redo the tests. Don't look for antibodies. Look for the

H5N1 germ itself. If you can find it at all, determine how many H5N1s were in

the bodies of these people---because it takes a whole lot (millions and millions

and millions) of germs being very active to contribute to illness.

Lately (and we see this kind of thing whenever a crazy hypothesis about a germ

causing death surfaces), several scientists have offered an unsubstantiated

explanation for how H5N1 is supposedly killing people: the presence of H5N1

causes " a ctyokine storm " in the lungs. Cytokines are part of immune response.

They help create inflammation, which is normally an aspect of immune defense.

But in the case of H5N1, the ctyokines are attacking H5N1 so powerfully (too

powerfully) that the lung inflammation is enormous and closes off the airways,

the breathing passages, leading to acute oxygen deficit.

It sounds good, but the one small batch of experiments done so far has been IN

PETRI DISHES, using lung issue taken out of the body and examined in the lab.

According to one group of researchers, this lung tissue becomes severely

inflamed when exposed to H5N1. Frequently, though, these in vitro results are

far different from what actually happens INSIDE THE BODY. So here we have a

situation where the experiments were done only one time by one group of

scientists in one lab. This is vastly premature " science. "

The hoax continues...

JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com