Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and also if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my dd's original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too much lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very impulsive. >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned to >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months in >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there said >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it was >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa a >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > - > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not >get her to shower again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Do they have her on an antiseizure med as well? So many of those are used for mood disorders as well and could make a difference too. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:49:05 PM Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever looked with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... i guess we have to start somewhere though. > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and also > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my dd's > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too >much > > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to > > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. > > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very >impulsive. > > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned >to > > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months >in > > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead > > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there >said > > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it >was > > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to > > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding > > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids > > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa >a > > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower > > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I remember that it happened almost instantly with the Luvox. I think it was 6MG. She is on only 1.5ML. of the Celexa. When I go up on any of these meds she seems to get worse. I was just wondering why she showered with the Luvox and not the Celexa. She was also on the Inositol at the same time she was on the Luvox, but Inositol alone did not make her shower, so I am not sure. > Hi Wilma, > > It may have less to do with medication and more to do with the power of the obsession around showering, this may have become stronger. I know many families who deal with this with their children. It is very difficult and I think the older they get the less they can be " pushed " /nudged to do something, like shower. > > How much celexa is she taking and for how long? > > When she was taking the luvox, how long did it take that she was on this before she could shower? > > It may be that the OCD in general is more severe now than it was then. The medication can help dial back the intensity of the OCD and the anxiety and any depression. But then it is the willingness of the person to do what they fear, ie shower. Have you tried working smaller steps toward showering? > > Barb > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower (whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not get her to shower again. I am trying to figure out what was in the Luvox that helped her be able to shower. I know Celexa and Luvox both help with OCD, but do they do more than that? Why is she able to shower when on Luvox and not on Celexa. > > -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I asked her if it was all the bad thoughts that prevented her from taking shower. She said no, it's just that she feels wild inside. Life racing too fast. I think she has more going on than the OCD. She tells me she is going to kill me if I reprimand her. She gets soooo embarrassed in front of people. It was always hard to dicspine her. She always got violent if I tried. She hid in the closest for hours if I embarrassed her my raising my voice to her. The pdoc thinks it's moslty related to OCD. > Hi Wilma, > > It may have less to do with medication and more to do with the power of the obsession around showering, this may have become stronger. I know many families who deal with this with their children. It is very difficult and I think the older they get the less they can be " pushed " /nudged to do something, like shower. > > How much celexa is she taking and for how long? > > When she was taking the luvox, how long did it take that she was on this before she could shower? > > It may be that the OCD in general is more severe now than it was then. The medication can help dial back the intensity of the OCD and the anxiety and any depression. But then it is the willingness of the person to do what they fear, ie shower. Have you tried working smaller steps toward showering? > > Barb > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower (whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not get her to shower again. I am trying to figure out what was in the Luvox that helped her be able to shower. I know Celexa and Luvox both help with OCD, but do they do more than that? Why is she able to shower when on Luvox and not on Celexa. > > -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 yes, she told me that she hated the feel of water on her body but with the luvox the feeling of water did not bother her though. she was showering.her hair has not been washed in weeks. it's gross. sad, cause she is so gorgeous! :0( i am just wondering if i need to keep getting higher on the celexa. she is only on 1.5ml. thus far. she keeps signing non-stop with her hands. she said it calms her. > Hi, Wilma. I was thinking the same as Barb. . The showering OC might have become more intense. > > Do you know if she is fearful? > > For some it can also become too difficult due to contamination OCs, so they can't seem to feel clean enough to finish showering. > > Our son went through a time where he was afraid of showering. I think for him it was because it's a place where there was nothing to distract, so he was alone with his thoughts and no way to fight them. They would overwhelm him and he would become anxious. > > We tried different things . . . > > For a while, I would go and talk to him, while he was showering, to help keep his focus on a conversation. We worked up to him being able to tolerate me stepping out of the room, and then increased the amount of time I was out. > > Even that was rather difficult for him, so we started allowing him to take some music into the bathroom with him, to help distract. That seemed to help. > > Have you asked her what she thinks might help her get through it easier? She might be able to provide some insight that would be helpful to know how to approach some ERP to help her. > > BJ > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower (whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not get her to shower again. I am trying to figure out what was in the Luvox that helped her be able to shower. I know Celexa and Luvox both help with OCD, but do they do more than that? Why is she able to shower when on Luvox and not on Celexa. > > -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too much lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very impulsive. Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned to punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months in which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there said Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it was uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa a month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > - > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower (whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not get her to shower again. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever looked with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... i guess we have to start somewhere though. > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and also > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my dd's > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too much > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very impulsive. > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned to > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months in > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there said > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it was > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa a > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 One thing I want to mention is that sometimes things get worse before they get better. You just have to try sticking them out to get to the point to know. I wonder if you are even getting up to a high enough dose for them to do their job. For instance, for Lamictal a mood stabilizing dose is 200 mg. My dd takes 4 psych meds and we have tried lots of meds and lots of combos. This combo has worked well for her. She was very unstable and nonfunctional for over 3 years before we got her on the right meds for her. She missed 3 years of school due to it and is now doing well. Don't give up. The right meds can make a huge difference. Stormy ________________________________ To: Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 4:52:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa she was on lamictal and depakote and i thought they made her worse, but then again... her OCD was not under control at the time she was on them. so not that the celexa seemed to be doing some good...perhaps that its a good idea to re-introduce it. thanks > Do they have her on an antiseizure med as well? So many of those are used for > mood disorders as well and could make a difference too. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:49:05 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i > have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it > could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever >looked > > with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... >i > > guess we have to start somewhere though. > > > > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and >also > > > > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my >dd's > > > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > > Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: > > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too > >much > > > > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if >i > > > > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front >of > > > > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use >to > > > > > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she >said > > > > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med >changes. > > > > > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very > >impulsive. > > > > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He >learned > > >to > > > > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean >and > > > > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 >months > > >in > > > > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but >instead > > > > > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there > >said > > > > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose >of > > > > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it > >was > > > > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope >to > > > > > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are >holding > > > > > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all >kids > > > > > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on >Celexa > >a > > > > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > > > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a >shower > > > > > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can >not > > > > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 she was on lamictal and depakote and i thought they made her worse, but then again... her OCD was not under control at the time she was on them. so not that the celexa seemed to be doing some good...perhaps that its a good idea to re-introduce it. thanks > Do they have her on an antiseizure med as well? So many of those are used for > mood disorders as well and could make a difference too. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:49:05 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i > have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it > could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever looked > with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... i > guess we have to start somewhere though. > > > > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and also > > > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my dd's > > > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > > Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: > > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too > >much > > > > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i > > > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of > > > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to > > > > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said > > > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. > > > > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very > >impulsive. > > > > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned > >to > > > > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and > > > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months > >in > > > > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead > > > > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there > >said > > > > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of > > > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it > >was > > > > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to > > > > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding > > > > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids > > > > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa > >a > > > > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower > > > > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not > > > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 oh and the lamictal may have been causing a rash. not sure so doctor stopped it. > Do they have her on an antiseizure med as well? So many of those are used for > mood disorders as well and could make a difference too. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:49:05 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i > have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it > could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever looked > with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... i > guess we have to start somewhere though. > > > > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and also > > > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my dd's > > > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > > Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: > > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too > >much > > > > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if i > > > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front of > > > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use to > > > > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she said > > > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med changes. > > > > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very > >impulsive. > > > > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He learned > >to > > > > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean and > > > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 months > >in > > > > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but instead > > > > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there > >said > > > > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose of > > > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it > >was > > > > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope to > > > > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are holding > > > > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all kids > > > > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on Celexa > >a > > > > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower > > > > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not > > > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I know. Yes, she has sensory issues. She is in O.T. It seems the only thing that ever got her into a shower was when she was on Depakote or Luvox. The low dose of Celexa is not helping get her to shower. She was on really low doses of Depakote and luvox too. What do you think Luvox has that helped that Celexa doesn't. My girl can't seem to get to a high does of any medication. She is so sensitive. She gets worse when we get higher. Doctor wants us to take it reallly s...l...o....w. > You saying she has issues with the way it feels made me wonder. . Does she have any sensitivity isses? Like clothing needs to feel right. . socks, underwear, tags? It's not part of OCD, but is a processing issue, like OCD, and many with OCD suffer from it too. > > She's only on 1.5 mg? That is really low for Celexa. Our son is on 60 mg, which is the high end. He's 18, 6 foot, and over 200 pounds though. But, a typical dosage for Celexa could be 10-60 mg, depending on size, age, and severity of OCD. > > I'm so sorry, Wilma. I know how hard it is. ( > > Treating OCD takes the patience of Job. <sigh> > > Hugs, > BJ > > > > > > yes, she told me that she hated the feel of water on her body but with the luvox the feeling of water did not bother her though. she was showering.her hair has not been washed in weeks. it's gross. sad, cause she is so gorgeous! :0( > > i am just wondering if i need to keep getting higher on the celexa. she is only on 1.5ml. thus far. she keeps signing non-stop with her hands. she said it calms her. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Ok Stormy. I am working my way up on this Celexa, slowly. It's so damn confusing though. She sits there doing this sign launguage thing with her hands. She said she is " signing " every word that she says cause it calms her. I keep wondering if it's the medication doing this or is this the OCD. But I saw it with the Inositol, Luvox and Celexa. So I would say it's not the meds., right? Before all medications....she sat and stared at a TV. You could not get her to move. Now that she is coming out of that coma like state, I am thinking that the " signing " is an indication that she may be getting better. Perhaps the OCD was so bad that could not move, and it now turned into her being able to get out of the house, but she has this " signing " thing left over. Does this make sense at all? > One thing I want to mention is that sometimes things get worse before they get > better. You just have to try sticking them out to get to the point to know. I > wonder if you are even getting up to a high enough dose for them to do their > job. For instance, for Lamictal a mood stabilizing dose is 200 mg. My dd takes 4 > psych meds and we have tried lots of meds and lots of combos. This combo has > worked well for her. She was very unstable and nonfunctional for over 3 years > before we got her on the right meds for her. She missed 3 years of school due to > it and is now doing well. Don't give up. The right meds can make a huge > difference. Stormy > > ________________________________ > > To: > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 4:52:37 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > she was on lamictal and depakote and i thought they made her worse, but then > again... her OCD was not under control at the time she was on them. so not that > the celexa seemed to be doing some good...perhaps that its a good idea to > re-introduce it. thanks > > > > Do they have her on an antiseizure med as well? So many of those are used for > > mood disorders as well and could make a difference too. Stormy > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: > > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:49:05 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > > > she is been to 3 pdocs, that all say OCD. she has had tons of testing done. i > > have piles of medical records. she shows an abnormal eeg, but doctors say it > > could not be causing all of this trouble. she looks the best she has ever > >looked > > > > with the celexa. i think OCD is a big part of it, but i think there is more... > >i > > > > guess we have to start somewhere though. > > > > > > > I am wondering if you have taken her to multiple doctors to asses her and > >also > > > > > > > if you have had a complete battery of tests done on her? We stuck with my > >dd's > > > > > original pdoc and it cost us time to really know what was going on with her. > > > > Stormy > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > To: > > > Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 2:37:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: Re: Luvox/Celexa > > > > > > the celexa seems to be helping the OCD. i don't hear constant obsessing too > > >much > > > > > > lately. i just think she may have more going on. she can be quite violent if > >i > > > > > > > try to discipline her. she gets extremely embarrassed if corrected in front > >of > > > > > > > others or even just with me. it is hard to discipline her. not showering use > >to > > > > > > > > be because she could not stand the feel of water on her body, but now she > >said > > > > > > > that's not it, but i can't get her to tell me what it is. > > > > > > > > > > I know how frustrating this can be as we've been through several med > >changes. > > > > > > > > >Our experience with now 14 year old son. Luvox made him mean and very > > >impulsive. > > > > > > >Got a new psychiatrist because old one said " get a punching bag. " (He > >learned > > > > >to > > > > > > >punch.) New one gave him Celexa, saying fifty percent of kids become mean > >and > > > > > > > >impulsive on Luvox. OCD came roaring back worse than ever - horrible 3 > >months > > > > >in > > > > > > >which doctor kept adding meds (meds were supposed to calm him down but > >instead > > > > > > > > >had nightmarish side effects). Our son ended up in hospital. Doctors there > > >said > > > > > > >Celexa did not work for everyone for OCD. Put him on Zoloft and small dose > >of > > > > > > > >Abilify (mood stabilizer). Within a week, we were seeing improvement and it > > > >was > > > > > > >uphill after that. Five months later and he is doing great. Someday we hope > >to > > > > > > > > >reduce dose of Zoloft and taper him off of Abilify, but for now we are > >holding > > > > > > > > >steady, thankful to have our son back. Bottom line, these meds effect all > >kids > > > > > > > > >different - many different body chemistries. If your child has been on > >Celexa > > >a > > > > > > >month or longer and you are not seeing improvements, I would speak to doctor > > > > > >about a change. If you change, make sure it's gradual as too fast can cause > > > > >terrible withdrawal symptoms. > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a > >shower > > > > > > > > >(whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too > > > > >mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can > >not > > > > > > > >get her to shower again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Could be part of it. She also hides in a closet when she eats. Hates when people hear that we have the radio on in the car. She turns it off really fast if she knows a neighbor hears it. She hates her body. Always picking moles off and screaming that she is ugly. Pdoc said agitation is due to the OCD. I have to admit, things are a bit better since being on the Celexa. > Social anxiety disorder??? > > > > > > > > > > When my girl was on 25mg of Luvox, I was able to get her to take a shower (whick she never could). We stopped that meds because it was making her too mean. She is now on Celexa and we are seeing some improvement, but we can not get her to shower again. I am trying to figure out what was in the Luvox that helped her be able to shower. I know Celexa and Luvox both help with OCD, but do they do more than that? Why is she able to shower when on Luvox and not on Celexa. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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