Re: more on OCD/Eating disorder

[Guest guest]

Oh , I really feel for you. I have a very similar situation. I am checking

my girl out for PANDAS too. So far it does not look like that is the case. My

girl was sick at birth and I understand that PANDAS comes suddenly after a

sickness like strep. My child was agitated from day one, and had a walnut sized

lump under her ear that was always suspicious to me. I have tried medications

that did not seem to help. I am trying Inositol right now and am seeing the best

results thus far. Keep me posted. and I am praying for you;

> I wrote a few weeks ago about my (almost) 16 yr old daughter, who is

> struggling w/ OCD, and continues to lose weight. We insisted she take

> medicine (prozac 30mg), and go to therapy (which includes an MD, and a

> nutritionist as well as a therapist). She seems to be getting worse,

> lots of raging, physical stuff toward me, and today she threw a tinker

> toy though our basement window:( We ended up taking her to the ER

> last week after she was kicking doors, and shoving me as well as

> verbally abusing me. We tricked her by saying we were taking her to

> the barn (she has a horse) and then used the child lock and locked her

> in. She kept trying to open the door to jump out. She also kept

> hitting the window w/ a metal horse bridle, and even pulled my hair

> *while* I was driving. Security escorted her in since she wouldn't

> get in the car. She was calm once we arrived, but emotionally flat.

> We decided against admitting her cause really think that would make

> things worse! She continues to be extremely verbally abusive, and

> begs relentlessly for things!!!!!!!!!

>

> That episode seems to increased her anger towards me by 50% She also

> doesn't believe she has a problem!!!! When she is not being rude, she

> just doesn't talk to me.

>

> I'm scared for her, and can't seem to connect w/ her in any way. She

> doesn't even seem like the same person.

>

> We saw the doctor today and she switched the medicine to Lexapro, and

> added Abilify.

>

> I did ask about Pandas, but the doctor didn't seem to think she had

> the right symptoms. I *know* I would have to pursue that myself, but

> I just don't have the energy.

>

> Any advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , gosh, so sorry it's gotten so bad, plus the physical!

I'm glad the doc switched meds. That was my thought as I began reading, try

another. In the years I've been in this/other groups, some have had to trial

thru the OCD meds, but when they get to *the* one that works, things can get so

much better. Sometimes the combination of adding a 2nd med has done the trick.

I know you didn't want put her in the hospital (I can imagine how I'd feel too),

but that was a thought, they would trial the different medications while she was

there.

I don't recall why you were wondering about PANDAS, but until you can get her

" stable " and pursue testing for it, hopefully Lexapro will work better for her.

I've always felt so fortunate that the first & only one we tried (Celexa) worked

so well without any problems other than tiredness.

You might consider asking about a possible mood stabilizer also, if things don't

improve. I know for some it has really helped with behavior, impulsive,

physical actions, etc. You can take them with an SSRI type medication, often

given along with it if bipolar or if history of bipolar in family, etc.

Hang in there, keep us updated!!!!

>

> I wrote a few weeks ago about my (almost) 16 yr old daughter, who is

> struggling w/ OCD, and continues to lose weight. We insisted she take

> medicine (prozac 30mg), and go to therapy (which includes an MD, and a

> nutritionist as well as a therapist). She seems to be getting worse,

> lots of raging, physical stuff toward me, and today she threw a tinker

> toy though our basement window:( We ended up taking her to the ER

> last week after she was kicking doors, and shoving me as well as

>

[Guest guest]

 

So sorry to hear everything you are going through. I do not know that much about

the ed area (and this may have already been mentioned before as I have not been

on in awhile) but I did attend the anxiety conference in March. During that

conference, I attended a session on eating disorders when they go along with

various forms of anxiety. I sat in because my 9 yr old has always had peculiar

eating habits. The presenter was Dr.  Bulik I believe, I cannot remember

where she is from, Chicago maybe? But she has written several books on eating

issues. While she was talking she mentioned that if the child gets too low of a

weight/too poor of a diet then the ssri does not kick in because it needs a

specific nutrient from the nutrition we get from what we eat. There were

suggestions she made but I have to try to find the notes. I just wanted to write

first and let you know. She specifically mentioned that most MD's prescribe

ssri's and change them to

see if one or another will work but they need the nutirents to help them kick

in. Many MD's are not used to treating ed patients and either do not know this

or forget when prescribing. She also said to make sure the MD does not prescribe

birth control pills (to help their period kick in) as this messes with knowing

when their body is normalizing again. Those were the two main points that I

remember, but I will try to find those notes for you. You can also google her

and her books and maybe there is more there. She also gave her email address and

said anyone could feel free to ask questions so I am wondering if she also put

that in a book or it may be on google as well. I will let you know when I find

the notes.

Subject: more on OCD/Eating disorder

To:

Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:03 AM

 

I wrote a few weeks ago about my (almost) 16 yr old daughter, who is

struggling w/ OCD, and continues to lose weight. We insisted she take

medicine (prozac 30mg), and go to therapy (which includes an MD, and a

nutritionist as well as a therapist). She seems to be getting worse,

lots of raging, physical stuff toward me, and today she threw a tinker

toy though our basement window:( We ended up taking her to the ER

last week after she was kicking doors, and shoving me as well as

verbally abusing me. We tricked her by saying we were taking her to

the barn (she has a horse) and then used the child lock and locked her

in. She kept trying to open the door to jump out. She also kept

hitting the window w/ a metal horse bridle, and even pulled my hair

*while* I was driving. Security escorted her in since she wouldn't

get in the car. She was calm once we arrived, but emotionally flat.

We decided against admitting her cause really think that would make

things worse! She continues to be extremely verbally abusive, and

begs relentlessly for things!!!!!!!!!

That episode seems to increased her anger towards me by 50% She also

doesn't believe she has a problem!!!! When she is not being rude, she

just doesn't talk to me.

I'm scared for her, and can't seem to connect w/ her in any way. She

doesn't even seem like the same person.

We saw the doctor today and she switched the medicine to Lexapro, and

added Abilify.

I did ask about Pandas, but the doctor didn't seem to think she had

the right symptoms. I *know* I would have to pursue that myself, but

I just don't have the energy.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Sharon, thanks for sharing that info for , that was interesting and good to

know.

>

>

>  

> So sorry to hear everything you are going through. I do not know that much

about the ed area (and this may have already been mentioned before as I have not

been on in awhile) but I did attend the anxiety conference in March. During

that conference, I attended a session on eating disorders when they go along

with various forms of anxiety. I