Re: Fw: [nsasa] Autism Speaks Video

[Guest guest]

I have worked on legislation on the state level, I can't do it for

now, it's too painful seeing the political system at work. I still

send emails, faxes, make phone calls when I read about a bill that

needs support or condemnation.

I also have done some media interviews, my fav was being on a local

radio show for a few hrs while people called in. That was a blast. I

think my biggest thing I'm doing for the autism cause is going to

college to be a nurse practitioner to be an autism practitioner. I'll

be finished with that in 4 yrs, but gag, I have to be at school at 8am

to start summer classes... boo.

I'm also for the moment (don't know how much longer) on the local ASA

board of directors. I also teach an Autism 101 workshop once a month

for newly-diagnosed families. It's 2 hrs and I touch on what autism

is, biomedical, behavioral/educational, family/coping, and a resource

list. I've been toying with the idea of doing a gfcf diet workshop

because there are so many who want to start but can't find people who

understand their kid may need something completely different from the

next kid. But since Allie doesn't follow it anymore I don't feel as up

on things. I may wait until I'm a RN & do it for a small fee, there's

only so much time in a day that I can help without hurting the family,

and I have felt I might be crossing that line.

I also have a myspace site I occasionally do autism stuff about, I'm

currently putting up some new stuff about autism.

www.myspace.com/debityree

Debi

[Guest guest]

I did not ask her to apologize. I did wonder if she felt different after some

time had passed since she posted the orginal statement about autism speaks. I

saw her post in the beginning and I went to the source. Had I not seen her post

I would not have gone to the source. I too had some concerns over the video.

Alison explained it to me. I think a number of mothers get stressed out -I know

that i do.

I do not think it was this group but I saw where a family was asked to

leave a applebees. I called that applebee and there had been more to the story.

I like going to the source. However I could not get in touch with the family in

question.

My point as I said before was to find out what people are doing in the

autism realm. Thats all. I am outspoken. My life has lead me to a point where

critism does not touch me as it once had. So I sometimes phrase things in a

insensitive way. BUt I live and learn. -

Thank you for your comments

Debi wrote: She

shouldn't apologize for saying how she felt any more than you

should. It's how she felt. She obviously wasn't happy about feeling

that way. The parents that murdered their children didn't do so

because of some stupid video, they did it because they were sick,

evil, what ever. For someone to murder their own child because of a

video would equate to like a 10 IQ, it just doesn't happen.

Debi

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I did not ask her to apologize. I did wonder if she felt different after some

time had passed since she posted the orginal statement about autism speaks. I

saw her post in the beginning and I went to the source. Had I not seen her post

I would not have gone to the source. I too had some concerns over the video.

Alison explained it to me. I think a number of mothers get stressed out -I know

that i do.

I do not think it was this group but I saw where a family was asked to

leave a applebees. I called that applebee and there had been more to the story.

I like going to the source. However I could not get in touch with the family in

question.

My point as I said before was to find out what people are doing in the

autism realm. Thats all. I am outspoken. My life has lead me to a point where

critism does not touch me as it once had. So I sometimes phrase things in a

insensitive way. BUt I live and learn. -

Thank you for your comments

Debi wrote: She

shouldn't apologize for saying how she felt any more than you

should. It's how she felt. She obviously wasn't happy about feeling

that way. The parents that murdered their children didn't do so

because of some stupid video, they did it because they were sick,

evil, what ever. For someone to murder their own child because of a

video would equate to like a 10 IQ, it just doesn't happen.

Debi

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I was referring to Kassi's assertion that the woman who said she once

thought about killing herself and her daughter should apologize. My

point is that she was just saying how she felt, if it's okay for one

person to say how they feel (Kassi) then it should be okay for others

(Alison). I think it was obvious from the AS video that she was

talking about a very sad time in her life, but for someone with autism

like Kassi, it might be more difficult to pick up on.

That's cool you always try to go to the source. Like the saying,

there's usually 3 sides to every story, his side, her side, & the truth.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I was referring to Kassi's assertion that the woman who said she once

thought about killing herself and her daughter should apologize. My

point is that she was just saying how she felt, if it's okay for one

person to say how they feel (Kassi) then it should be okay for others

(Alison). I think it was obvious from the AS video that she was

talking about a very sad time in her life, but for someone with autism

like Kassi, it might be more difficult to pick up on.

That's cool you always try to go to the source. Like the saying,

there's usually 3 sides to every story, his side, her side, & the truth.

Debi

[Guest guest]

the truth to be is that she is of right to her feelings at the tijme

and autism can be of so fearful and overwhelming to some parents. it

maybe maked her feel at this being the only out for fear of her own

daughters outcomes and fear of what her daughter woudl endure which

is of painful as those with spectrum already know. it was her heart

pleas in this autism monster things that is if the fear in the early

journey and rightfully so for some. Greif is a horrible clutching

emotion that sometimes clings to us in socu pervasive ways it leaves

the victim stuch and unable to move on for a long time.

Many with spectrum shout out their thinking without regards to the

impact of others because it is of a surging need to expel it and so

maybe with her she felt the pains so intense she was of honest it

does not mean in my thinking she had full want within her to act out

her emotional surging , it was just her internal need to save her

daughter from her own perspectives of her life outcomes.

For me I to stand by the video in its " self " because it is of to me

the reality I to see daily in autism from family perspectives , and

community and professional perspectives as well.

But I to not fully support of the cause of the autism speaks goals. I

to love of their commercials as I to feel it impacts the community in

a very defined way to get attention for autism thinking for those not

yet affected by it.

Anyways autism is of a broad spectrum and not all will make of the

samegains I to ahve maked or others here to be of voice or speak out,

some are greatly consumed by their chqallenges and barriers in autism

that leaves them disabled in a very profound way and for this group I

to be of to focus much too in my speakings because they cannot be

forgotten in the needs and services they will continue to need life

long. they are what tugs of my heart to keep doing what I to do and

it brings me a happy feeling if can give to them in some way to make

of their life even for a day better.

This does not equate I to have no sympathy for the higher end, that

is of not so as they may have of very similar needs but not always as

intense in all the core areas. Their needs are not as much into the

daily living skills ( although some do)as they are in realms of

social isolations and socail negative reactions from others and the

sole rejection of trying to interact. It becomes a place of social

desertion where they give up trying and or no longer hold an interest

in pursuing of friends and that can be a devastating place for some

who want of that in the lives of them.

Anyways need to go to get of shower and get of my day going.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

the truth to be is that she is of right to her feelings at the tijme

and autism can be of so fearful and overwhelming to some parents. it

maybe maked her feel at this being the only out for fear of her own

daughters outcomes and fear of what her daughter woudl endure which

is of painful as those with spectrum already know. it was her heart

pleas in this autism monster things that is if the fear in the early

journey and rightfully so for some. Greif is a horrible clutching

emotion that sometimes clings to us in socu pervasive ways it leaves

the victim stuch and unable to move on for a long time.

Many with spectrum shout out their thinking without regards to the

impact of others because it is of a surging need to expel it and so

maybe with her she felt the pains so intense she was of honest it

does not mean in my thinking she had full want within her to act out

her emotional surging , it was just her internal need to save her

daughter from her own perspectives of her life outcomes.

For me I to stand by the video in its " self " because it is of to me

the reality I to see daily in autism from family perspectives , and

community and professional perspectives as well.

But I to not fully support of the cause of the autism speaks goals. I

to love of their commercials as I to feel it impacts the community in

a very defined way to get attention for autism thinking for those not

yet affected by it.

Anyways autism is of a broad spectrum and not all will make of the

samegains I to ahve maked or others here to be of voice or speak out,

some are greatly consumed by their chqallenges and barriers in autism

that leaves them disabled in a very profound way and for this group I

to be of to focus much too in my speakings because they cannot be

forgotten in the needs and services they will continue to need life

long. they are what tugs of my heart to keep doing what I to do and

it brings me a happy feeling if can give to them in some way to make

of their life even for a day better.

This does not equate I to have no sympathy for the higher end, that

is of not so as they may have of very similar needs but not always as

intense in all the core areas. Their needs are not as much into the

daily living skills ( although some do)as they are in realms of

social isolations and socail negative reactions from others and the

sole rejection of trying to interact. It becomes a place of social

desertion where they give up trying and or no longer hold an interest

in pursuing of friends and that can be a devastating place for some

who want of that in the lives of them.

Anyways need to go to get of shower and get of my day going.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

I emailed four times.

Called twice.

Emailed 6 more.

Went through their website to other people.

NOTHING. NADA. ZIP.

They don't want to hear from my ilk. And how FUCKING

dare you call my abuse a crutch? Want PICTURES? I have

made three gynecologists and a GI doc FAINT.

Thanks for reminding me why i am glad to be autistic,

EVERY DAY.

Kassiane, who is a big girl and can use the F word

when people are asshats.

yep, Im old enough to say ass too.

--- angela utley wrote:

>

> But I asked her. She was kind of enough to respond.

> There are many sides to a story. I too could claim

> to hold a grudge. Unfortunately for the same things.

> I was born into a political family. Even my doctor

> was a pedophile . I had no one to turn to when I

> was a young girl. NO one would believe me. So I too

> was written off! But we control our adult lives.

> You never answered me about contacting her. I

> assume you are busy as am I. I am waiting for

> another referral for myself in regards to my aspie

> behavior. I truly relate to my younger daughter

> more. But part of my point was to find out what

> people are doing in the way of autism awareness.

> What is your platform? Things like that. You raised

> a good point about autism speaks. I contacted her.

> She responded. Your words lack merit (in my opinion)

> about Alison . You did not go to the source.

> Think twice about using your abuse that should

> not have happened to you as a gun crutch. -

> Kassi wrote:

> When she publicly apologizes

> rather than having her

> pet producer call her 'brave', stops demonizing

> autistic people, and starts listening to us...

>

> Oh wait. I'm only human. Humans have an unfortunate

> tendency to hold grudges. Especially humans with

> histories of abuse that leaves them unable to have

> normal adult relationships (p.s. that means

> multiple

> rapes in more than one orifice for many years, like

> 8

> of them) that were written off because they were

> neurologically goofy kids. If I had knifed the

> offending parent in the offending organ, Id be in

> jail. And last I checked, kiddie rape and kiddie

> killing are both higher crimes than self defense OR

> being autistic.

>

> She gets 150K/year to bitch about Jodie. Hell no I

> don't have different thoughts, nor will I. She

> should

> have had her kids put into foster care for that.

>

> Kassiane

>

> --- angela utley wrote:

>

> > I know this is a real real late reply. But I

> > emailed Alison and I got a reply. She basically

> said

> > she was so upset about the lack of help in the

> > schools and lack of help period that she was so

> very

> > frustrated. She helps so many and meets so many

> > closed doors. I am grateful for people like her.

> She

> > said those comments in question were born out of

> > frustration.

> > What have you said that was rash and

> > severe? Are you always perfect? I have said some

> > horrific things. Alison is human. She manages to

> > help so many people -What do you do? I try to

> spread

> > awareness on my myspace page. I inform mothers

> of

> > what I went through with Athena on her vaccine

> > reaction. She was hospitalized. I had saved your

> > post because I was going to try to contact her

> and

> > ask her about " the situation " . I did -did you?

> She

> > replied to me. Just wanted to pass my thoughts

> > along. Perhaps you have different thoughts by now

> on

> > this situation.

> > Mother of Ariel and Athena 4yr old beauty

> on

> > the spectrum

> >

> > Kassi wrote:

>

> > McCarron, age 3,

> > murdered mothers day.

> > DeGroot, age 18, also murdered

> mothers

> > day. was smothered. was burned

> > alive. Three days after the disgusting video

> came

> > out.

> >

> > Alison Tepper Singer is the AutismWeeps VP who

> > smiled

> > at the camera while talking of her wonderous

> plan

> > to

> > kill her daughter. Three days before and

> > were killed.

> >

> > Kassiane.

> >

> > --- priscillasmum04

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Please forgive me for not knowing-what were

> the

> > > Mother's Day murders

> > > of 2006?

> > > And who is Tepper Singer?

> > >

> > > -Dana

> > > Priscilla's mom

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Autism Speaks created a music

> video

> > of

> > > the

> > > > > > > Five for

> > > > > > > > > > Fighting song, " World " ,

> > > > > > > > > > which features images of

> autistic

> > > children

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > families.

> > > > > > > > > > It is a truly moving video and

> was

> > the

> > > > > work of

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > > > > > > Shea.

> > > > > > > > > > The band is generously donating

> > $0.49

> > > to

> > > > > > > Autism

> > > > > > > > > > Speaks for each time the

> > > > > > > > > > video is viewed - the funding

> goes

> > > toward

> > > > > > > research

> > > > > > > > > > studies to help find a cure.

> > > > > > > > > > When you have a moment, please

> > visit

> > > the

> > > > > link

> > > > > > > below

> > > > > > > > > > to watch the video and

> > > > > > > > > > pass it along to your friends

> and

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> > > > > > > > > > They are aiming for 10,000 hits,

> > but

> > > > > hopefully

> > > > > > > we

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[Guest guest]

I emailed four times.

Called twice.

Emailed 6 more.

Went through their website to other people.

NOTHING. NADA. ZIP.

They don't want to hear from my ilk. And how FUCKING

dare you call my abuse a crutch? Want PICTURES? I have

made three gynecologists and a GI doc FAINT.

Thanks for reminding me why i am glad to be autistic,

EVERY DAY.

Kassiane, who is a big girl and can use the F word

when people are asshats.

yep, Im old enough to say ass too.

--- angela utley wrote:

>

> But I asked her. She was kind of enough to respond.

> There are many sides to a story. I too could claim

> to hold a grudge. Unfortunately for the same things.

> I was born into a political family. Even my doctor

> was a pedophile . I had no one to turn to when I

> was a young girl. NO one would believe me. So I too

> was written off! But we control our adult lives.

> You never answered me about contacting her. I

> assume you are busy as am I. I am waiting for

> another referral for myself in regards to my aspie

> behavior. I truly relate to my younger daughter

> more. But part of my point was to find out what

> people are doing in the way of autism awareness.

> What is your platform? Things like that. You raised

> a good point about autism speaks. I contacted her.

> She responded. Your words lack merit (in my opinion)

> about Alison . You did not go to the source.

> Think twice about using your abuse that should

> not have happened to you as a gun crutch. -

> Kassi wrote:

> When she publicly apologizes

> rather than having her

> pet producer call her 'brave', stops demonizing

> autistic people, and starts listening to us...

>

> Oh wait. I'm only human. Humans have an unfortunate

> tendency to hold grudges. Especially humans with

> histories of abuse that leaves them unable to have

> normal adult relationships (p.s. that means

> multiple

> rapes in more than one orifice for many years, like

> 8

> of them) that were written off because they were

> neurologically goofy kids. If I had knifed the

> offending parent in the offending organ, Id be in

> jail. And last I checked, kiddie rape and kiddie

> killing are both higher crimes than self defense OR

> being autistic.

>

> She gets 150K/year to bitch about Jodie. Hell no I

> don't have different thoughts, nor will I. She

> should

> have had her kids put into foster care for that.

>

> Kassiane

>

> --- angela utley wrote:

>

> > I know this is a real real late reply. But I

> > emailed Alison and I got a reply. She basically

> said

> > she was so upset about the lack of help in the

> > schools and lack of help period that she was so

> very

> > frustrated. She helps so many and meets so many

> > closed doors. I am grateful for people like her.

> She

> > said those comments in question were born out of

> > frustration.

> > What have you said that was rash and

> > severe? Are you always perfect? I have said some

> > horrific things. Alison is human. She manages to

> > help so many people -What do you do? I try to

> spread

> > awareness on my myspace page. I inform mothers

> of

> > what I went through with Athena on her vaccine

> > reaction. She was hospitalized. I had saved your

> > post because I was going to try to contact her

> and

> > ask her about " the situation " . I did -did you?

> She

> > replied to me. Just wanted to pass my thoughts

> > along. Perhaps you have different thoughts by now

> on

> > this situation.

> > Mother of Ariel and Athena 4yr old beauty

> on

> > the spectrum

> >

> > Kassi wrote:

>

> > McCarron, age 3,

> > murdered mothers day.

> > DeGroot, age 18, also murdered

> mothers

> > day. was smothered. was burned

> > alive. Three days after the disgusting video

> came

> > out.

> >

> > Alison Tepper Singer is the AutismWeeps VP who

> > smiled

> > at the camera while talking of her wonderous

> plan

> > to

> > kill her daughter. Three days before and

> > were killed.

> >

> > Kassiane.

> >

> > --- priscillasmum04

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Please forgive me for not knowing-what were

> the

> > > Mother's Day murders

> > > of 2006?

> > > And who is Tepper Singer?

> > >

> > > -Dana

> > > Priscilla's mom

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Autism Speaks created a music

> video

> > of

> > > the

> > > > > > > Five for

> > > > > > > > > > Fighting song, " World " ,

> > > > > > > > > > which features images of

> autistic

> > > children

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > families.

> > > > > > > > > > It is a truly moving video and

> was

> > the

> > > > > work of

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > > > > > > Shea.

> > > > > > > > > > The band is generously donating

> > $0.49

> > > to

> > > > > > > Autism

> > > > > > > > > > Speaks for each time the

> > > > > > > > > > video is viewed - the funding

> goes

> > > toward

> > > > > > > research

> > > > > > > > > > studies to help find a cure.

> > > > > > > > > > When you have a moment, please

> > visit

> > > the

> > > > > link

> > > > > > > below

> > > > > > > > > > to watch the video and

> > > > > > > > > > pass it along to your friends

> and

> > > family.

> > > > > > > > > > They are aiming for 10,000 hits,

> > but

> > > > > hopefully

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > can help them to surpass

> > > > > > > > > > this goal.

> > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Y'all DO know that stating intent to kill is a crime

in most states, right? As in, FELONY. Think what you

will but thinking and stating are 2 different things.

Go talk to your therapist, not a video. It is not

cool, it is not courageous, it is disturbing.

But Alison is above that because HER kid is autistic

and theyre RICH. If I stated that I wanted to pop

people on the head for saying moronic things about

autism Id be arrested for disorderly conduct. Double

standard much?

--- Debi wrote:

> I was referring to Kassi's assertion that the woman

> who said she once

> thought about killing herself and her daughter

> should apologize. My

> point is that she was just saying how she felt, if

> it's okay for one

> person to say how they feel (Kassi) then it should

> be okay for others

> (Alison). I think it was obvious from the AS video

> that she was

> talking about a very sad time in her life, but for

> someone with autism

> like Kassi, it might be more difficult to pick up

> on.

>

> That's cool you always try to go to the source. Like

> the saying,

> there's usually 3 sides to every story, his side,

> her side, & the truth.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Y'all DO know that stating intent to kill is a crime

in most states, right? As in, FELONY. Think what you

will but thinking and stating are 2 different things.

Go talk to your therapist, not a video. It is not

cool, it is not courageous, it is disturbing.

But Alison is above that because HER kid is autistic

and theyre RICH. If I stated that I wanted to pop

people on the head for saying moronic things about

autism Id be arrested for disorderly conduct. Double

standard much?

--- Debi wrote:

> I was referring to Kassi's assertion that the woman

> who said she once

> thought about killing herself and her daughter

> should apologize. My

> point is that she was just saying how she felt, if

> it's okay for one

> person to say how they feel (Kassi) then it should

> be okay for others

> (Alison). I think it was obvious from the AS video

> that she was

> talking about a very sad time in her life, but for

> someone with autism

> like Kassi, it might be more difficult to pick up

> on.

>

> That's cool you always try to go to the source. Like

> the saying,

> there's usually 3 sides to every story, his side,

> her side, & the truth.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/3/07 11:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

burntoutpsychic@... writes:

I personally would like to see something in the way of a cure as it would

make life some much easier for Athena. Her case is not as severe as others. I

am grateful. I consider my child complete. I just want to experience all

dimensions of her. I

'all dimensions of her'. is she verbal? do you mean to know what she is

thinking? just wondering.

i personaly experience all kinds of interesting things with my daughter.

and think i see all of her asspects of personality, humor, hopes and well just

all of it.

and i think more so sometimes cause of her autisim, she tends to have my

sense of humor. poor pennie. lol.

eric abbys dad

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/3/07 11:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

burntoutpsychic@... writes:

I personally would like to see something in the way of a cure as it would

make life some much easier for Athena. Her case is not as severe as others. I

am grateful. I consider my child complete. I just want to experience all

dimensions of her. I

'all dimensions of her'. is she verbal? do you mean to know what she is

thinking? just wondering.

i personaly experience all kinds of interesting things with my daughter.

and think i see all of her asspects of personality, humor, hopes and well just

all of it.

and i think more so sometimes cause of her autisim, she tends to have my

sense of humor. poor pennie. lol.

eric abbys dad

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[Guest guest]

She didn't state an intent to kill, she stated feelings of thinking

about. She didn't say " I'm going to kill her, " she said, " I thought

about killing her but didn't. " Not that it's great that she thought

it. I for one am not celebrating or defending her thoughts.

There is no double standard. If you said, " When I was 17 I thought

about killing my mother because we were going through a horrible

time... " it would be no different. Nor would you be arrested for

disorderly conduct by making your statement, I hear people say far

worse all the time. Heck, was it Alec Baldwin who said someone should

kill President Bush?

Debi

>

> Y'all DO know that stating intent to kill is a crime

> in most states, right? As in, FELONY. Think what you

> will but thinking and stating are 2 different things.

> Go talk to your therapist, not a video. It is not

> cool, it is not courageous, it is disturbing.

>

> But Alison is above that because HER kid is autistic

> and theyre RICH. If I stated that I wanted to pop

> people on the head for saying moronic things about

> autism Id be arrested for disorderly conduct. Double

> standard much?

>

> 4

[Guest guest]

She didn't state an intent to kill, she stated feelings of thinking

about. She didn't say " I'm going to kill her, " she said, " I thought

about killing her but didn't. " Not that it's great that she thought

it. I for one am not celebrating or defending her thoughts.

There is no double standard. If you said, " When I was 17 I thought

about killing my mother because we were going through a horrible

time... " it would be no different. Nor would you be arrested for

disorderly conduct by making your statement, I hear people say far

worse all the time. Heck, was it Alec Baldwin who said someone should

kill President Bush?

Debi

>

> Y'all DO know that stating intent to kill is a crime

> in most states, right? As in, FELONY. Think what you

> will but thinking and stating are 2 different things.

> Go talk to your therapist, not a video. It is not

> cool, it is not courageous, it is disturbing.

>

> But Alison is above that because HER kid is autistic

> and theyre RICH. If I stated that I wanted to pop

> people on the head for saying moronic things about

> autism Id be arrested for disorderly conduct. Double

> standard much?

>

> 4