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In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

fightingautism@... writes:

only my mother was an early bloomer, I

was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

I'm going bra shopping today

Debi

well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its already

started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

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In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

fightingautism@... writes:

only my mother was an early bloomer, I

was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

I'm going bra shopping today

Debi

well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its already

started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

eric abbys dad and gutter boy

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Yeah, unfortunately it happens. My Kimber, who doesn't " need' " the added

burden of having a bust has the biggest one! I was hopeful that, in her

case, it would be a blessing for her to be flat chested like her mother &

was hoping that if any one of my girls would develop, it would be my NT, who

could handle it better, I thought. Oh well....

Marie

>

>

> In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> fightingautism@... writes:

>

> only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

>

> Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

>

> I'm going bra shopping today

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its already

> started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

> eric abbys dad and gutter boy

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Yeah, unfortunately it happens. My Kimber, who doesn't " need' " the added

burden of having a bust has the biggest one! I was hopeful that, in her

case, it would be a blessing for her to be flat chested like her mother &

was hoping that if any one of my girls would develop, it would be my NT, who

could handle it better, I thought. Oh well....

Marie

>

>

> In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> fightingautism@... writes:

>

> only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

>

> Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

>

> I'm going bra shopping today

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its already

> started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

> eric abbys dad and gutter boy

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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It's bad enough with our NT daughters. I guess part of me thought

since my NT daughter is a little thicker and Allie is so small, both

short and tiny frame, that perhaps she would be slower coming out. <sigh>

She said today, " I don't have any friends...I don't have anyone to

play with. " Very profound statements from Allie Kat. I reminded her of

all the neighborhood kids, but they're more 's age & play with

her most, though all are very loving and inclusive of Allie. Shanna

said it's good in that it shows she's ready for more social skills

lessons. Still hurt my heart. Her best friend has autism, I'm gonna

try & talk her mom into letting her spend more time here, Allie would

love that.

Debi

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > fightingautism@... writes:

> >

> > only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> > was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> > convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> > Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> > I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> > Debi

> >

> >

> >

> > well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its

already

> > started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

> > eric abbys dad and gutter boy

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> > http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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It's bad enough with our NT daughters. I guess part of me thought

since my NT daughter is a little thicker and Allie is so small, both

short and tiny frame, that perhaps she would be slower coming out. <sigh>

She said today, " I don't have any friends...I don't have anyone to

play with. " Very profound statements from Allie Kat. I reminded her of

all the neighborhood kids, but they're more 's age & play with

her most, though all are very loving and inclusive of Allie. Shanna

said it's good in that it shows she's ready for more social skills

lessons. Still hurt my heart. Her best friend has autism, I'm gonna

try & talk her mom into letting her spend more time here, Allie would

love that.

Debi

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > fightingautism@... writes:

> >

> > only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> > was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> > convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> > Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> > I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> > Debi

> >

> >

> >

> > well i know my abby wont....or will she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its

already

> > started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a little longer.....lol

> > eric abbys dad and gutter boy

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> > http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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Poor Allie...that feeling hurts...I feel for your baby

girl (well, middle girl). They really need to have

autistic social groups more places...that would maybe

help? And groups that are part kids with disabilities

part NT (but the NT kids are " outnumbered " ) so that

kids can meet peers...

Hug Allie for me. And CAMISOLE BRAS are the best.

Kassiane,

still in kids dept bras.

--- Debi wrote:

> It's bad enough with our NT daughters. I guess part

> of me thought

> since my NT daughter is a little thicker and Allie

> is so small, both

> short and tiny frame, that perhaps she would be

> slower coming out. <sigh>

>

> She said today, " I don't have any friends...I don't

> have anyone to

> play with. " Very profound statements from Allie Kat.

> I reminded her of

> all the neighborhood kids, but they're more

> 's age & play with

> her most, though all are very loving and inclusive

> of Allie. Shanna

> said it's good in that it shows she's ready for more

> social skills

> lessons. Still hurt my heart. Her best friend has

> autism, I'm gonna

> try & talk her mom into letting her spend more time

> here, Allie would

> love that.

>

> Debi

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> > > fightingautism@... writes:

> > >

> > > only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> > > was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in

> my twisted mind I

> > > convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> > >

> > > Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> > >

> > > I'm going bra shopping today

> > >

> > > Debi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > well i know my abby wont....or will

> she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its

> already

> > > started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a

> little longer.....lol

> > > eric abbys dad and gutter boy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** See

> what's free at

> > > http://www.aol.com.

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

> > > ------------------------

> > > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe

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Poor Allie...that feeling hurts...I feel for your baby

girl (well, middle girl). They really need to have

autistic social groups more places...that would maybe

help? And groups that are part kids with disabilities

part NT (but the NT kids are " outnumbered " ) so that

kids can meet peers...

Hug Allie for me. And CAMISOLE BRAS are the best.

Kassiane,

still in kids dept bras.

--- Debi wrote:

> It's bad enough with our NT daughters. I guess part

> of me thought

> since my NT daughter is a little thicker and Allie

> is so small, both

> short and tiny frame, that perhaps she would be

> slower coming out. <sigh>

>

> She said today, " I don't have any friends...I don't

> have anyone to

> play with. " Very profound statements from Allie Kat.

> I reminded her of

> all the neighborhood kids, but they're more

> 's age & play with

> her most, though all are very loving and inclusive

> of Allie. Shanna

> said it's good in that it shows she's ready for more

> social skills

> lessons. Still hurt my heart. Her best friend has

> autism, I'm gonna

> try & talk her mom into letting her spend more time

> here, Allie would

> love that.

>

> Debi

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/7/07 11:33:53 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> > > fightingautism@... writes:

> > >

> > > only my mother was an early bloomer, I

> > > was, and Jess is slightly early. Yet somehow in

> my twisted mind I

> > > convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> > >

> > > Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> > >

> > > I'm going bra shopping today

> > >

> > > Debi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > well i know my abby wont....or will

> she.....wanhhhhhhhh. its

> already

> > > started. but maybe i can stay in denie just a

> little longer.....lol

> > > eric abbys dad and gutter boy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** See

> what's free at

> > > http://www.aol.com.

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

> > > ------------------------

> > > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe

> > >

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LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really difficult.

Denial is such a calm place!!!

I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly getting " buds " but

she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the little cotton

sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of the Loom

at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and pulled a

shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down into her

shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine, and walked

away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I could not

believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves around " mom "

so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has not

complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to take it

off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

>convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

>

>Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

>

>I'm going bra shopping today

>

>Debi

>

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LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really difficult.

Denial is such a calm place!!!

I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly getting " buds " but

she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the little cotton

sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of the Loom

at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and pulled a

shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down into her

shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine, and walked

away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I could not

believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves around " mom "

so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has not

complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to take it

off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

>convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

>

>Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

>

>I'm going bra shopping today

>

>Debi

>

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this reminded me of my own childhood and thinked my mom buyed of

special bandaides for my body. LOL yes now I to remember of this and

thinked the same of the sister and mother seeing them with the same

felt maybe this is what people due when the body hurts. Now I to

understand but back then it was odd to not understand of all that. but

that is funny to me now as I to remember things when triggered open to

me.

The older sister of me hated of them and when teh step father to be to

picked her up from school she often took of it off and threw it to teh

back of the station wagon/ Once my were on they stayed on and to sleep

of them on occasions even now when teh breast are of hurting does seem

to help at times. But in summer it is of iritating and too hot to be

with them but the rule for self is not to ever go wothout one. it to me

is of rude for self and cant break of my rules. these rules can create

a huge amoung of stress for self but cant seem to stop them from

forming within me.

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this reminded me of my own childhood and thinked my mom buyed of

special bandaides for my body. LOL yes now I to remember of this and

thinked the same of the sister and mother seeing them with the same

felt maybe this is what people due when the body hurts. Now I to

understand but back then it was odd to not understand of all that. but

that is funny to me now as I to remember things when triggered open to

me.

The older sister of me hated of them and when teh step father to be to

picked her up from school she often took of it off and threw it to teh

back of the station wagon/ Once my were on they stayed on and to sleep

of them on occasions even now when teh breast are of hurting does seem

to help at times. But in summer it is of iritating and too hot to be

with them but the rule for self is not to ever go wothout one. it to me

is of rude for self and cant break of my rules. these rules can create

a huge amoung of stress for self but cant seem to stop them from

forming within me.

sondra

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How funny comparing you and her! I got Allie some today at walmart,

sounds like the same kind. I haven't given them to her yet, I tried to

put on a little trainer the other day just to see how she'd like it,

she screamed & I told her she could take it off, there were arms and

straps going in every direction, reminded me of a cartoon where a

person gets all tangled up. What was funny was that I had my 4 yr-old

with me, she wanted her bras. I found some underoos, but they were

tank tops, not the little half-tank/half-bras when they first came

out. I got her the smallest sports bra I could find, she's been

wearing just her panties & that bra all night, she thinks she's a big

girl now, lol. I hope Allie will eventually wanna wear them since now

all us girls are, she's sort of competitive with little sis.

Debi

>

> LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really difficult.

> Denial is such a calm place!!!

>

> I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly getting

" buds " but

> she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the little

cotton

> sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of

the Loom

> at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and pulled a

> shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down

into her

> shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine, and

walked

> away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I

could not

> believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves

around " mom "

> so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has not

> complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to

take it

> off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

>

> Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

>

>

> >

> Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> >convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> >Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> >I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> >Debi

> >

>

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How funny comparing you and her! I got Allie some today at walmart,

sounds like the same kind. I haven't given them to her yet, I tried to

put on a little trainer the other day just to see how she'd like it,

she screamed & I told her she could take it off, there were arms and

straps going in every direction, reminded me of a cartoon where a

person gets all tangled up. What was funny was that I had my 4 yr-old

with me, she wanted her bras. I found some underoos, but they were

tank tops, not the little half-tank/half-bras when they first came

out. I got her the smallest sports bra I could find, she's been

wearing just her panties & that bra all night, she thinks she's a big

girl now, lol. I hope Allie will eventually wanna wear them since now

all us girls are, she's sort of competitive with little sis.

Debi

>

> LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really difficult.

> Denial is such a calm place!!!

>

> I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly getting

" buds " but

> she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the little

cotton

> sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of

the Loom

> at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and pulled a

> shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down

into her

> shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine, and

walked

> away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I

could not

> believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves

around " mom "

> so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has not

> complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to

take it

> off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

>

> Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

>

>

> >

> Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> >convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> >Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> >I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> >Debi

> >

>

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Actually its a good thing for her to wear it at bedtime. Everything

I have read lately has stressed how important nighttime breast

support is(quite a change from when I was growing up) I am really

lucky with the whole bra issue so far. Dakota was so large when she

was little that when she was 4 she was wearing size 16 girls.

Because of this any tank tops I would buy her had the built in bra.

She is totally used to the binding around the chest(yay for us).

Now if I could just figuer a way to explain the birds and the bees

when the time comes. She is also already very curious about boys and

such(AAARGH Pray for me!)

>

> LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really

difficult.

> Denial is such a calm place!!!

>

> I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly

getting " buds " but

> she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the

little cotton

> sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of

the Loom

> at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and

pulled a

> shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down

into her

> shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine,

and walked

> away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I

could not

> believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves

around " mom "

> so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has

not

> complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to

take it

> off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

>

> Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

>

>

> >

> Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> >convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> >Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> >I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> >Debi

> >

>

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Actually its a good thing for her to wear it at bedtime. Everything

I have read lately has stressed how important nighttime breast

support is(quite a change from when I was growing up) I am really

lucky with the whole bra issue so far. Dakota was so large when she

was little that when she was 4 she was wearing size 16 girls.

Because of this any tank tops I would buy her had the built in bra.

She is totally used to the binding around the chest(yay for us).

Now if I could just figuer a way to explain the birds and the bees

when the time comes. She is also already very curious about boys and

such(AAARGH Pray for me!)

>

> LOL!! I am trying not to live in denial, but it is really

difficult.

> Denial is such a calm place!!!

>

> I bought bras two weeks ago for my . She is bearly

getting " buds " but

> she was holding her chest saying " Ouch chest " . I got her the

little cotton

> sports like bras, but they have skinny spaghetti straps, Fruit of

the Loom

> at walmart. I told her what it was, put it on her quickly and

pulled a

> shirt on her. She pulled the front of her shirt out, looked down

into her

> shirt, then pulled my shirt out, looked down the front of mine,

and walked

> away!!! PHEW!!! We have had some big battles over clothing, I

could not

> believe how easy that went!!!!! Then again, her world revolves

around " mom "

> so maybe it is okay that she is wearing stuff like me. She has

not

> complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to

take it

> off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

>

> Thank heaven for small miracles!!

>

>

>

> >

> Yet somehow in my twisted mind I

> >convinced myself it wouldn't happen to Allie.

> >

> >Oh, the lies we tell ourselves to feel better...

> >

> >I'm going bra shopping today

> >

> >Debi

> >

>

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.. She has not

complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to take it

off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

Thank heaven for small miracles!!

glad to hear that one worked out for you

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In a message dated 7/15/07 6:57:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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.. She has not

complained about anything hurting since, and she often refuses to take it

off at bedtime, so I just let her wear it.

Thank heaven for small miracles!!

glad to hear that one worked out for you

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I was just going to write a post on the puberty topic. My dd, Jordan,

is almost 11. she is very thin and underweight, so I was kind of

hoping puberty would stay away. I was a late bloomer and so was my

mom. but the other day, I was getting her dressed and smelled the BO

smell coming from her armpits. *sigh* I'm hoping she doesn't get her

period though, until age 14 like me, or even 16 like my mother. Like

Debi, I thought she would be higher functioning by this age, but she

still struggles with hygeine issues. She is toilet trained for years,

but she still forgets essential steps like wiping, flushing and making

sure her undies are neatly in her pants. so what is she going to do

with maxi-pads? :(

Good luck, Debi. I feel for you!!

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I was just going to write a post on the puberty topic. My dd, Jordan,

is almost 11. she is very thin and underweight, so I was kind of

hoping puberty would stay away. I was a late bloomer and so was my

mom. but the other day, I was getting her dressed and smelled the BO

smell coming from her armpits. *sigh* I'm hoping she doesn't get her

period though, until age 14 like me, or even 16 like my mother. Like

Debi, I thought she would be higher functioning by this age, but she

still struggles with hygeine issues. She is toilet trained for years,

but she still forgets essential steps like wiping, flushing and making

sure her undies are neatly in her pants. so what is she going to do

with maxi-pads? :(

Good luck, Debi. I feel for you!!

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<sigh> For lack of more proper wording, it sucks, huh? <g>

Speaking of, what aluminum-free antiperspirants are out there? I know

there are a few deos, but any actually help stop sweat?

Debi

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<sigh> For lack of more proper wording, it sucks, huh? <g>

Speaking of, what aluminum-free antiperspirants are out there? I know

there are a few deos, but any actually help stop sweat?

Debi

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DEBI<

I just wanted to share this with you. My PDD daughter is 11, she has had issues

with body odor and needing deodorant and to shave her underarms for about 4

years, but she DOES NOT have her period yet. So, just because she has the

armpit issues doesn't mean she will get her period soon. I thought you would

want to hear that. My NT daughter got hers at age 9. I didn't until 13 so I

give up trying to make sense of the pattern. Another indicator would be hair

" down there " I am told by my pedi that the amount of hair doesn't matter, it is

the height of the actual hairline. My teenager would say, " TM " MOM " meaning too

much information but I find the boundaries that bind us in normal life do not

apply here. Thank God for that. It is sometimes a saving grace that we can

speak as freely as we do on here. I am hoping my daughter holds out with the

period, but she has been an emotional mess lately and is showing all kinds of

signs of development everywhere. When the day comes I will post my final post,

pack my bags and move to Guam. Seriously, how the heck can these poor girls

deal with that!?

Terri

Re: I'm trying to stay calm, but...

I was just going to write a post on the puberty topic. My dd, Jordan,

is almost 11. she is very thin and underweight, so I was kind of

hoping puberty would stay away. I was a late bloomer and so was my

mom. but the other day, I was getting her dressed and smelled the BO

smell coming from her armpits. *sigh* I'm hoping she doesn't get her

period though, until age 14 like me, or even 16 like my mother. Like

Debi, I thought she would be higher functioning by this age, but she

still struggles with hygeine issues. She is toilet trained for years,

but she still forgets essential steps like wiping, flushing and making

sure her undies are neatly in her pants. so what is she going to do

with maxi-pads? :(

Good luck, Debi. I feel for you!!

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DEBI<

I just wanted to share this with you. My PDD daughter is 11, she has had issues

with body odor and needing deodorant and to shave her underarms for about 4

years, but she DOES NOT have her period yet. So, just because she has the

armpit issues doesn't mean she will get her period soon. I thought you would

want to hear that. My NT daughter got hers at age 9. I didn't until 13 so I

give up trying to make sense of the pattern. Another indicator would be hair

" down there " I am told by my pedi that the amount of hair doesn't matter, it is

the height of the actual hairline. My teenager would say, " TM " MOM " meaning too

much information but I find the boundaries that bind us in normal life do not

apply here. Thank God for that. It is sometimes a saving grace that we can

speak as freely as we do on here. I am hoping my daughter holds out with the

period, but she has been an emotional mess lately and is showing all kinds of

signs of development everywhere. When the day comes I will post my final post,

pack my bags and move to Guam. Seriously, how the heck can these poor girls

deal with that!?

Terri

Re: I'm trying to stay calm, but...

I was just going to write a post on the puberty topic. My dd, Jordan,

is almost 11. she is very thin and underweight, so I was kind of

hoping puberty would stay away. I was a late bloomer and so was my

mom. but the other day, I was getting her dressed and smelled the BO

smell coming from her armpits. *sigh* I'm hoping she doesn't get her

period though, until age 14 like me, or even 16 like my mother. Like

Debi, I thought she would be higher functioning by this age, but she

still struggles with hygeine issues. She is toilet trained for years,

but she still forgets essential steps like wiping, flushing and making

sure her undies are neatly in her pants. so what is she going to do

with maxi-pads? :(

Good luck, Debi. I feel for you!!

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Lol. Guam? I think Allie still has a ways to go before she starts,

she's not showing any signs other than possibly some beginning buds. I

still think she has some unknown metabolic issue that might make her

start late, she's still so small. She turned 8 this week and a friend

3 mos older than her is over a head taller, as is virtually all 8 & 7

yr-olds for that matter. Allie's a year behind in school and still

slightly shorter than most of them. <sigh>

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