Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thanks, Matt You beat me too it. I was searching for a couple online to reference that I had seen and looks like you found the one I thought was best. All asthmatics should be provided an asthma action plan according to best practice guidelines for asthma specialists if the doctors are not providing this then they are not many the standards and should be getting with the program."Matt Anders, RRT, AE-C, CPFT" wrote: An astham action plan is a plan on how to manage your astham and what to do in the event of an astham attack. There are many different of action plan worksheets out there. Find one and use it. It helps you know what your medications are, what they are for, and when to use them. Some action plans have areas for you to chart your peak flows every day. Daily peak flow reading are recommended for good astham control. Here are some links to action plans.... http://www.lungusa.org/atf/cf/%7B7A8D42C2-FCCA-4604-8ADE-7F5D5E762256%7D/AAP.PDF http://www.aaaai.org/members/allied_health/tool_kit/handouts/my_action_plan.pdf http://www.noattacks.org/AsthmaActionCardStudent.pdf > > > > >> > > > > > I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has> > > gotten> > > > > > progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few days> > > can> > > > > > actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a > > cold> > > > and> > > > > of> > > > > > course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any > > way> > > > > they> > > > > > have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me> > > > swell 2> > > > > > sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin > > chiclet> > > it> > > > > > really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my > > back.> > > > > Lets> > > > > > face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back > > to> > > > > > normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of that> > > can> > > > > be> > > > > > used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, it> > > to> > > > > > swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular.> > > > > > Dawn> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake.> > > > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > someone> > > > who knows.> > > > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels> > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story.> > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck> > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > > Yahoo! FareChase.> > > > > ---------------------------------> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.> Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.> Webber Independent Consultant Southern Livng At Home Denver, COmelwebber22@... Order on-line: www.southernlivingathome.com/missmelissa Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 No, I don't have an asthma action plan. I've had asthma for 57 years, so I feel I'm pretty well tuned in to my body and know what my flow is without using a meter. I use the Albuterol every day, not reactively--but preventatively. It is a non-steroidal bronchial dilator. I prefer it to steroids like Flovent and Advair (although it looks as if I'll have no choice, now). I've been on Albuterol since 1986 and use it sparingly and have been virtually asthma-free for all these years...able to ride horses, load in hay, clean stalls, mow pastures, etc. It's only since " the change " that I've been noticing more symptoms and those generally are brought about by stressful situations (my husband's battle with cancer, his death, etc.). I have looked into prescription assistance. I was overwhelmed by the paperwork and by the necessity to turn in copies of three years' worth of my income taxes (which are lengthy since I have my own business). I may give it another go, however, since I'm now headed to spend $223/mo for Flovent and HFC Albuterol. Your concern is valid. Private employers are increasingly slicing health care coverage. And many elderly people are having to choose between their prescriptions and air-conditioning or groceries. > > > Yes you can use albeterol on occassion for preventive measures, I am > told I need to do it in freezing cold weather, people I fly -- i've > had mild attacks on airplanes, and before exercise if needed. > > If you are using albuterol everday in reaction then you probably need > something else. I use Advair everyday and then use albuterol if I > feel an attack coming on or for above situations. I also measure my > peak flows. > > I am suprised your doctor has not asked you to record your peakflows > on a daily basis. And you must always have an emergency inhaler. > That sounds like a malpractice suit waiting to happen if he would not > prescribe you an emergency inhaler. > > Have you looked into prescription assitance. There is a one that has > been advertised on TV by Mortel . That may help keep the cost > down. I am worried about the fact that people are not going to > afford the new abuterol and deaths are going to rise because people > will choose to do without. > > Do you have an asthma action plan? > > > Martha wrote: > > Whoa...this is spooky. My doctor just told me exactly the same > thing--that I'm using " too much " of my Albuterol--so I " must " go on > Flovent. When I told him that this arrangement left me not only > near-broke, but also without an emergency inhaler, he grudgingly wrote > a prescription for the new HFC Albuterol. I've been using Albuterol > (about 3 times/24 hrs, mostly at night)--and the packaging says it can > safely be used up to 8 times/24 hrs. My former dr., a pulmonary > specialist, told me I could use it preventatively, too--before > exercising, for example. Both my current dr. and the CVS pharmacist > tell me that Albuterol is not to be used preventively, yet Albuterol > websites and the packaging both say it can. The CVS pharmacist even > insulted my previous dr: " We've come a long way in treatment of > asthma, so your doctor probably wasn't up on the latest information. " > But that doctor had a son with asthma and did keep up with all the > latest info. I responded to the pharmacist, " Well if asthma is being > so well treated, nowadays, how come the mortality rate is going up, not > down? " Of course, these folks don't like it when we get feisty. So > much for all the rhetoric about " discussing " your health with your > doctors and pharmacists. > > Something just doesn't smell right, here. Dare I say it sounds like > " talking points " that doctors are getting from big Pharma? > > On Tuesday, June 19, 2007, at 10:57 AM, catherine pasky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Man oh man... i feel what you are going through. Just the other day > I > > called my doctor to get a refill on my albuterol... they said that i > > have to come in to the office because i am using too much of my > > medication and they need to evaluate me... Funny, that is what they > > said about six months ago and did not give me any change in my > > medication or habits... I currently use and have used for 15 years, > > albuterol, singular, and a nebulizer and for about two years advair.. > > they have never changed anything. I just feel like they don't care > > about me and just care that my dollar keeps coming in... Any > > suggestions... > > catherine > > > > Martha wrote: > > > > See, I've checked around and only the Armstrong brand is available in > > my area. I started out on Proventil in 1986--but it just doesn't seem > > to be available where I live (in north Florida). And my doctor has > > become very testy about writing prescriptions that I request. I'd > > change, but that would involve a 100-mile drive into the nearest > large > > city. Plus, any new doctor is going to want to wring my wallet out > > with a bunch of tests. I'm still paying off a $691 ambulance trip > that > > I took to the ER last May. It's awful not having health insurance. > > > > On Tuesday, June 19, 2007, at 09:56 AM, Barbs Cajun Home wrote: > > > > > Me too I am using the Armstrong brand as well. My dr said that she > > > will move me over to Proventil when I can't get the albuterol > > > anylonger. And have used it since it has albuterol in it. Thank > > > goodness I can get it for about the same price. > > > As I have to pay for all my meds out of pocket. > > > > > > I know I can't believe that the albuterol that we are using to take > > > into our bodies is doing that either. > > > And I know about the diesel fumes as my hubby is a trucker. Those > > > things are horrible smelling and also one of my triggers.. Any > smoke > > > triggers me. > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > [sPAM] Re: help > > > > > > My abuterol inhaler is just $44.00 > > > > > > Bourg wrote: > > > > > > I am on provental Inhalers and they are good you are to see if you > > can > > > get that > > > > > > > > > Martha wrote: > > > > > > Yeppers. You and I are in the same boat. My doctor just prescribed > > > Flovent, which will cost me $124 (I presume per month) and the > newly > > > patented, " environmentally friendly " Albuterol " rescue " inhaler > will > > > be at least $99 instead of the $22 that the " old, " generic, > Albuterol > > > was costing me. I live on about $15,000/yr and don't know how I'm > > > going to spend more than 10% of my income on these two > prescriptions. > > > And I've got six years to go before I get to Medicare...and make > " too > > > much " to qualify for Medicaid. (And then all these news stories ask > > > why we're not saving anything!) Anybody have some tips where to get > > > our drugs more inexpensively? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't know how people with asthma can afford advair, > > because > > > > there is no way i can afford it, Here advair cost $160.00 > > > > > > > > Martha wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you for educating me. In my experience I'd been offered, or > > > > taken, one or the other, but not both at the same time. It's > really > > > > important that we all communicate with each other so that we can > > > > understand all the convolutions of this lousy ailment--that's the > > > > beauty of belonging to this board...together we're more than any > of > > > us > > > > would be as individuals. > > > > > > > > Over the 50+ years I've had asthma, I've found that it's > important > > to > > > > keep potassium levels up to par. It's easy to slip into muscle > > > cramps. > > > > And when you think about it, the constriction of the smooth > muscles > > > > can contribute to our bronchial tubes closing up on us. One doc I > > had > > > > (a pulmonary guy in Washington DC) told me to keep myself well > > > hydrated > > > > and he recommended Gatorade, which I happen to detest, but drink > it > > > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on Singulair, Advair, Prednisone 10mg, Xopenex and Xolair. > > > I've > > > > > gained 5 - 10 lbs since the Prednisone but I had lost about 15 > > lbs > > > > > before being diagnosed about 8 months ago from being so sick > for > > > > > months prior to that. As far as pain as a side effect of any > of > > > the > > > > > drugs I have not really had any to speak of. I have had a few > > > > charlie > > > > > horse tyle cramps in my legs and feet new and then at night > when > > > I'm > > > > > sleeping which from what I read can be a side effect of the > > > Advair. > > > > > Anyway just thought I'd chime in that in some cases at least > > Advair > > > > > and Singulair are used together. Also my son has had Asthma > for > > > over > > > > > 20 years and he is on the Advair and Singulair combination and > > does > > > > > very well on it. > > > > > > > > > > Martha wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Am certainly no doctor, but from your description, it sounds as > > if > > > > your > > > > > dosage might be too high. My asthma was nicely controlled from > > age > > > 8 > > > > > to age 21 with 5mg of cortisone/prednisone a day. > > > > Cortisone/prednisone > > > > > (corticosteroid) is an anti-inflammatory, which helps the > > bronchial > > > > > tubes to go from inflamed to a more normal status. > > > > > Cortisone/prednisone side effects typically present as " moon > > face, " > > > > > (facial swelling), general weight gain (it enhances appetite), > a > > > very > > > > > hard abdomen (not the good " workout " kind lol). It can also > > > increase > > > > > chance of glaucoma. I've known several other asthmatics who've > > been > > > > on > > > > > corticosteroids, but have never heard of any having the painful > > > > > problems you describe. Usually it's just general weight gain. > Am > > > also > > > > > puzzled that Advair would cause swelling. There have been > reports > > > of > > > > > sudden death with Advair, but haven't heard about swelling. > Were > > > you > > > > > prescribed both Singulair AND Advair to take at the same time? > > (I'm > > > > > not saying it's wrong, it's just the first I've heard of it...) > > > > > > > > > > martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has > > > gotten > > > > > > progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few > days > > > can > > > > > > actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a > > cold > > > > and > > > > > of > > > > > > course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any > > way > > > > > they > > > > > > have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me > > > > swell 2 > > > > > > sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin > > chiclet > > > it > > > > > > really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my > > back. > > > > > Lets > > > > > > face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back > > to > > > > > > normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of > that > > > can > > > > > be > > > > > > used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, > it > > > to > > > > > > swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular. > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > someone > > > > who knows. > > > > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story. > > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > > Yahoo! FareChase. > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on > Yahoo! TV. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i have asthma problem i am right very very sick with a very bad summer cold or a viral infection right what should i doMartha wrote: No, I don't have an asthma action plan. I've had asthma for 57 years, so I feel I'm pretty well tuned in to my body and know what my flow is without using a meter. I use the Albuterol every day, not reactively--but preventatively. It is a non-steroidal bronchial dilator. I prefer it to steroids like Flovent and Advair (although it looks as if I'll have no choice, now). I've been on Albuterol since 1986 and use it sparingly and have been virtually asthma-free for all these years...able to ride horses, load in hay, clean stalls, mow pastures, etc. It's only since "the change" that I've been noticing more symptoms and those generally are brought about by stressful situations (my husband's battle with cancer, his death, etc.).I have looked into prescription assistance. I was overwhelmed by the paperwork and by the necessity to turn in copies of three years' worth of my income taxes (which are lengthy since I have my own business). I may give it another go, however, since I'm now headed to spend $223/mo for Flovent and HFC Albuterol.Your concern is valid. Private employers are increasingly slicing health care coverage. And many elderly people are having to choose between their prescriptions and air-conditioning or groceries.> > > Yes you can use albeterol on occassion for preventive measures, I am > told I need to do it in freezing cold weather, people I fly -- i've > had mild attacks on airplanes, and before exercise if needed.> > If you are using albuterol everday in reaction then you probably need > something else. I use Advair everyday and then use albuterol if I > feel an attack coming on or for above situations. I also measure my > peak flows.> > I am suprised your doctor has not asked you to record your peakflows > on a daily basis. And you must always have an emergency inhaler. > That sounds like a malpractice suit waiting to happen if he would not > prescribe you an emergency inhaler.> > Have you looked into prescription assitance. There is a one that has > been advertised on TV by Mortel . That may help keep the cost > down. I am worried about the fact that people are not going to > afford the new abuterol and deaths are going to rise because people > will choose to do without.> > Do you have an asthma action plan?>>> Martha wrote:>> Whoa...this is spooky. My doctor just told me exactly the same> thing--that I'm using "too much" of my Albuterol--so I "must" go on> Flovent. When I told him that this arrangement left me not only> near-broke, but also without an emergency inhaler, he grudgingly wrote> a prescription for the new HFC Albuterol. I've been using Albuterol> (about 3 times/24 hrs, mostly at night)--and the packaging says it can> safely be used up to 8 times/24 hrs. My former dr., a pulmonary> specialist, told me I could use it preventatively, too--before> exercising, for example. Both my current dr. and the CVS pharmacist> tell me that Albuterol is not to be used preventively, yet Albuterol> websites and the packaging both say it can. The CVS pharmacist even> insulted my previous dr: "We've come a long way in treatment of> asthma, so your doctor probably wasn't up on the latest information."> But that doctor had a son with asthma and did keep up with all the> latest info. I responded to the pharmacist, "Well if asthma is being> so well treated, nowadays, how come the mortality rate is going up, not> down?" Of course, these folks don't like it when we get feisty. So> much for all the rhetoric about "discussing" your health with your> doctors and pharmacists.>> Something just doesn't smell right, here. Dare I say it sounds like> "talking points" that doctors are getting from big Pharma?>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2007, at 10:57 AM, catherine pasky wrote:>> >> >>> >> >> > Man oh man... i feel what you are going through. Just the other day > I> > called my doctor to get a refill on my albuterol... they said that i> > have to come in to the office because i am using too much of my> > medication and they need to evaluate me... Funny, that is what they> > said about six months ago and did not give me any change in my> > medication or habits... I currently use and have used for 15 years,> > albuterol, singular, and a nebulizer and for about two years advair..> > they have never changed anything. I just feel like they don't care> > about me and just care that my dollar keeps coming in... Any> > suggestions...> > catherine> >> > Martha wrote:> >> > See, I've checked around and only the Armstrong brand is available in> > my area. I started out on Proventil in 1986--but it just doesn't seem> > to be available where I live (in north Florida). And my doctor has> > become very testy about writing prescriptions that I request. I'd> > change, but that would involve a 100-mile drive into the nearest > large> > city. Plus, any new doctor is going to want to wring my wallet out> > with a bunch of tests. I'm still paying off a $691 ambulance trip > that> > I took to the ER last May. It's awful not having health insurance.> >> > On Tuesday, June 19, 2007, at 09:56 AM, Barbs Cajun Home wrote:> >> > > Me too I am using the Armstrong brand as well. My dr said that she> > > will move me over to Proventil when I can't get the albuterol> > > anylonger. And have used it since it has albuterol in it. Thank> > > goodness I can get it for about the same price. > > > As I have to pay for all my meds out of pocket. > > > > > > I know I can't believe that the albuterol that we are using to take> > > into our bodies is doing that either. > > > And I know about the diesel fumes as my hubby is a trucker. Those> > > things are horrible smelling and also one of my triggers.. Any > smoke> > > triggers me. > > > > > > Barb> > >> > > [sPAM] Re: help> > >> > > My abuterol inhaler is just $44.00> > >> > > Bourg wrote:> > >> > > I am on provental Inhalers and they are good you are to see if you> > can> > > get that> > >> > >> > > Martha wrote:> > >> > > Yeppers. You and I are in the same boat. My doctor just prescribed> > > Flovent, which will cost me $124 (I presume per month) and the > newly> > > patented, "environmentally friendly" Albuterol "rescue" inhaler > will> > > be at least $99 instead of the $22 that the "old," generic, > Albuterol> > > was costing me. I live on about $15,000/yr and don't know how I'm> > > going to spend more than 10% of my income on these two > prescriptions.> > > And I've got six years to go before I get to Medicare...and make > "too> > > much" to qualify for Medicaid. (And then all these news stories ask> > > why we're not saving anything!) Anybody have some tips where to get> > > our drugs more inexpensively?> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > I really don't know how people with asthma can afford advair,> > because> > > > there is no way i can afford it, Here advair cost $160.00> > > >> > > > Martha wrote:> > > >> > > > Thank you for educating me. In my experience I'd been offered, or> > > > taken, one or the other, but not both at the same time. It's > really> > > > important that we all communicate with each other so that we can> > > > understand all the convolutions of this lousy ailment--that's the> > > > beauty of belonging to this board...together we're more than any > of> > > us> > > > would be as individuals.> > > >> > > > Over the 50+ years I've had asthma, I've found that it's > important> > to> > > > keep potassium levels up to par. It's easy to slip into muscle> > > cramps.> > > > And when you think about it, the constriction of the smooth > muscles> > > > can contribute to our bronchial tubes closing up on us. One doc I> > had> > > > (a pulmonary guy in Washington DC) told me to keep myself well> > > hydrated> > > > and he recommended Gatorade, which I happen to detest, but drink > it> > > > anyway.> > > > > > > >> > > > > I'm on Singulair, Advair, Prednisone 10mg, Xopenex and Xolair. > > > I've> > > > > gained 5 - 10 lbs since the Prednisone but I had lost about 15> > lbs> > > > > before being diagnosed about 8 months ago from being so sick > for> > > > > months prior to that. As far as pain as a side effect of any > of> > > the> > > > > drugs I have not really had any to speak of. I have had a few> > > > charlie> > > > > horse tyle cramps in my legs and feet new and then at night > when> > > I'm> > > > > sleeping which from what I read can be a side effect of the> > > Advair. > > > > > Anyway just thought I'd chime in that in some cases at least> > Advair> > > > > and Singulair are used together. Also my son has had Asthma > for> > > over> > > > > 20 years and he is on the Advair and Singulair combination and> > does> > > > > very well on it.> > > > >> > > > > Martha wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Am certainly no doctor, but from your description, it sounds as> > if> > > > your> > > > > dosage might be too high. My asthma was nicely controlled from> > age> > > 8> > > > > to age 21 with 5mg of cortisone/prednisone a day.> > > > Cortisone/prednisone> > > > > (corticosteroid) is an anti-inflammatory, which helps the> > bronchial> > > > > tubes to go from inflamed to a more normal status.> > > > > Cortisone/prednisone side effects typically present as "moon> > face,"> > > > > (facial swelling), general weight gain (it enhances appetite), > a> > > very> > > > > hard abdomen (not the good "workout" kind lol). It can also> > > increase> > > > > chance of glaucoma. I've known several other asthmatics who've> > been> > > > on> > > > > corticosteroids, but have never heard of any having the painful> > > > > problems you describe. Usually it's just general weight gain. > Am> > > also> > > > > puzzled that Advair would cause swelling. There have been > reports> > > of> > > > > sudden death with Advair, but haven't heard about swelling. > Were> > > you> > > > > prescribed both Singulair AND Advair to take at the same time?> > (I'm> > > > > not saying it's wrong, it's just the first I've heard of it...)> > > > >> > > > > martha> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has> > > gotten> > > > > > progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few > days> > > can> > > > > > actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a> > cold> > > > and> > > > > of> > > > > > course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any> > way> > > > > they> > > > > > have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me> > > > swell 2> > > > > > sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin> > chiclet> > > it> > > > > > really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my> > back.> > > > > Lets> > > > > > face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back> > to> > > > > > normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of > that> > > can> > > > > be> > > > > > used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, > it> > > to> > > > > > swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular.> > > > > > Dawn> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake.> > > > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from> > someone> > > > who knows.> > > > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels> > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your> > story.> > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck> > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with> > Yahoo! FareChase.> >>>>>>> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on > Yahoo! TV.> Finding fabulous fares is fun.Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Go see a doctor immediately. Go to the emergency room to see one if you have to. Asthma tends to escalate if you try to ignore it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has > > > > gotten > > > > > > > progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few > > days > > > > can > > > > > > > actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a > > > cold > > > > > and > > > > > > of > > > > > > > course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any > > > way > > > > > > they > > > > > > > have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me > > > > > swell 2 > > > > > > > sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin > > > chiclet > > > > it > > > > > > > really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my > > > back. > > > > > > Lets > > > > > > > face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back > > > to > > > > > > > normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of > > that > > > > can > > > > > > be > > > > > > > used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, > > it > > > > to > > > > > > > swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular. > > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > > > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > > someone > > > > > who knows. > > > > > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > > story. > > > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > > > > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > > > Yahoo! FareChase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on > > Yahoo! TV. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 confirmation on the nebulizer...whenver you have an emergency situation thats pretty much what they do. It's pretty common to have them at home now. Lorna wrote: Hi I was just in the hospital for a day cause of my asthma attack. Only thing they used in the hospital is the nebulizador machine with ipratropium bromide and albuterol sulfate solution. To get the medication down to my lung what inhaler can not. I felt that I could do this all at home so now I am buying the machine so I don't have to be in the hospital. There is not much can do when people sick. I gotten the flue shot. But the main thing I have to do for myself is to stay away the things that will tiger it. Like water slides, water gets into my nose. And dust mices. Remove carpet. I also notice that tiger my asthma is flowers like lily and tulips and people who smoked. The smells is on them and their breathe. That very hard when I have to work with these things. Like some say there goes their job after so many years.foxfire290 <foxfire290> wrote: I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has gotten progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few days can actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a cold and of course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any way they have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me swell 2 sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin chiclet it really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my back. Lets face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back to normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of that can be used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, it to swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular.Dawn Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 prednizone is well known to cause swelling etc much more than the other medications you both listed. It really isn't usually used long term because of a number of side effects. I guess though that the doctor who put you on it is weighing out the pros and cons and in a severe case maybe that is a warranted trade off, bugenerally you don't want to be on prednizone long term. As far as advair goes...if you are not taking it then its like not even treating the asthma, albuterol etc and the other things are meant to be coupled with the advair. Ask about alternatives to advair maybe...have you tried that? I have heard there is an alternative medication to the advair. ThanksMartha wrote: Am certainly no doctor, but from your description, it sounds as if your dosage might be too high. My asthma was nicely controlled from age 8 to age 21 with 5mg of cortisone/prednisone a day. Cortisone/prednisone (corticosteroid) is an anti-inflammatory, which helps the bronchial tubes to go from inflamed to a more normal status. Cortisone/prednisone side effects typically present as "moon face," (facial swelling), general weight gain (it enhances appetite), a very hard abdomen (not the good "workout" kind lol). It can also increase chance of glaucoma. I've known several other asthmatics who've been on corticosteroids, but have never heard of any having the painful problems you describe. Usually it's just general weight gain. Am also puzzled that Advair would cause swelling. There have been reports of sudden death with Advair, but haven't heard about swelling. Were you prescribed both Singulair AND Advair to take at the same time? (I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just the first I've heard of it...)martha> I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has gotten> progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few days can> actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a cold and of> course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any way they> have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me swell 2> sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin chiclet it> really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my back. Lets> face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back to> normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of that can be> used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, it to> swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular.> Dawn>> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 the potassium and water deficiency theory in asthma sounds interesting. Can we talk about that a bit more? I haven't heard that theory Martha wrote: Thank you for educating me. In my experience I'd been offered, or taken, one or the other, but not both at the same time. It's really important that we all communicate with each other so that we can understand all the convolutions of this lousy ailment--that's the beauty of belonging to this board...together we're more than any of us would be as individuals.Over the 50+ years I've had asthma, I've found that it's important to keep potassium levels up to par. It's easy to slip into muscle cramps. And when you think about it, the constriction of the smooth muscles can contribute to our bronchial tubes closing up on us. One doc I had (a pulmonary guy in Washington DC) told me to keep myself well hydrated and he recommended Gatorade, which I happen to detest, but drink it anyway.> I'm on Singulair, Advair, Prednisone 10mg, Xopenex and Xolair. I've > gained 5 - 10 lbs since the Prednisone but I had lost about 15 lbs > before being diagnosed about 8 months ago from being so sick for > months prior to that. As far as pain as a side effect of any of the > drugs I have not really had any to speak of. I have had a few charlie > horse tyle cramps in my legs and feet new and then at night when I'm > sleeping which from what I read can be a side effect of the Advair. > Anyway just thought I'd chime in that in some cases at least Advair > and Singulair are used together. Also my son has had Asthma for over > 20 years and he is on the Advair and Singulair combination and does > very well on it.>> Martha wrote:>> Am certainly no doctor, but from your description, it sounds as if your> dosage might be too high. My asthma was nicely controlled from age 8> to age 21 with 5mg of cortisone/prednisone a day. Cortisone/prednisone> (corticosteroid) is an anti-inflammatory, which helps the bronchial> tubes to go from inflamed to a more normal status.> Cortisone/prednisone side effects typically present as "moon face,"> (facial swelling), general weight gain (it enhances appetite), a very> hard abdomen (not the good "workout" kind lol). It can also increase> chance of glaucoma. I've known several other asthmatics who've been on> corticosteroids, but have never heard of any having the painful> problems you describe. Usually it's just general weight gain. Am also> puzzled that Advair would cause swelling. There have been reports of> sudden death with Advair, but haven't heard about swelling. Were you> prescribed both Singulair AND Advair to take at the same time? (I'm> not saying it's wrong, it's just the first I've heard of it...)>> martha> >> > I was born with asthma and allergies. Over the years it has gotten> > progressively worse. A cold to one person that last a few days can> > actually put me in the hospital.eewwww. My fiancee caught a cold and > of> > course me from him and went straight to acute bronchitus. Any way > they> > have put me on predinsone again (i hate that med) it makes me swell 2> > sizes or larger than what I already am. Not being a thin chiclet it> > really shows. I swell so bad my feet hurt and my kidneys my back. > Lets> > face it my everything hurts, then it takes months to get back to> > normal. Is there anything else out there that yall know of that can > be> > used instead of prednisone? Advair I have it I dont take it, it to> > swells me up. I do use my albuterol inhaler, singular.> > Dawn> >> >>>>>>> Building a website is a piece of cake.> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 We used these little Rubbermaid straw bottles from Walmart. http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/category.jhtml?cat=HPCat100041 You can put their favorite drink in it, put the straw to their lips and squeeze the bottle slightly to squirt into their mouth. After a while they catch on & start sucking, then you can switch to other strawed items. I found this far easier than going straight to a cup. For no immunizations, you have to file a waiver that your state allows. Check here for your state's listing: http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 We used these little Rubbermaid straw bottles from Walmart. http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/category.jhtml?cat=HPCat100041 You can put their favorite drink in it, put the straw to their lips and squeeze the bottle slightly to squirt into their mouth. After a while they catch on & start sucking, then you can switch to other strawed items. I found this far easier than going straight to a cup. For no immunizations, you have to file a waiver that your state allows. Check here for your state's listing: http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 im having an attack now, im on my nebulizer now, im getting pissed off (sorry for the word) having attacks at night time nowadays, specially during and after my periods...if i take more ventolin it becomes yeast and diarehha. it is pissing me off... i take vtiamins during my cycles to make me stronger, but i dont feel any improvements. my doctor just took note of this but did not make any recomendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Will she let you buy her clothes that work better for her? Will she talk with you at a non-stressful time about why these outfits comfort her or what she/you could do about peer teasing? About other ways of dealing with stress (guided imagery relaxations, strategies for dealing with anxiety-producing situations (you can call me to come get you if you are still anxious after x amount of time; worked for us, but not for all). Our 10 yo dd started wearing her winter coat in class in spring of 2009 due to contamination issues. She was getting teased and had a heat rash as well. I ended up buying her several hoodies that covered her but were less objectionable and less likely to cause heat rash. Yes, it was an accommodation, but it made her stand out less. Last summer, I could tell her stress level partly by what she wore. The more covered up she was the stronger the contamination fears. She is doing much better now on Zoloft, but still has some things to work on. (mom w/OCD, 10 yo dd w/OCD) > > Subject: help > To: > Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 4:56 PM > I need help. My almost 10 year old > mild OCD daughter has always had issues with clothes > (changing hundreds of times, getting stuck on same clothes > for months on end, etc) She is also chubby, with a larger > belly. Her newest thing is to wear clothes that make her > belly even more noticable (even in the face of vicious > teasing from peers). She looks great in say, shorts and t > shirt. But insists, especially on occasions that cause her a > bit of stress (weddings, play dates, going to the movies > with friends) on spending hours putting together strange > outfits that look, frankly, horrible. Whether I try to > nicely encourage her to wear appropriate clothing, or get > forceful and insist she wears appropriate clothing, it never > ends well. She insists I am putting her down, stifling her > style, etc. I kind of hold back because if we have too much > of a " row " over it, she regresses and goes back to wearing > only one set of clothes for months on end (which is another > round of vicious teasing from peers, > not to mention causes her alot of stress when the clothes > wear out, have to be washed, etc). I feel stuck, and > frustrated. How can I talk to her and encourage her without > her taking it so personal and causing a set back? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// > by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links > may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links > . Our files may be accessed at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files > . > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( > http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 > ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health > professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " > in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list > moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and > Barb Nesrallah. You may contact the moderators at -owner > . OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ > . Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links > . IOCDF treatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php > . > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l > . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF > glossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx > . IOCDF membership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com > pill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic > Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 These are good suggestions, and I have tried some. Buying new clothes helps in " that " moment, but then the next time she needs to dress for an occasion she purposely refuses to wear what worked fine in the past (she looked good, felt good about herself, both her dad and i approved) and instead opts for either an outfit she knows will not work, or makes her miserable, etc. We have tried to avoid meds, but I am thinking I might have little choice. > > > > > Subject: help > > To: > > Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 4:56 PM > > I need help. My almost 10 year old > > mild OCD daughter has always had issues with clothes > > (changing hundreds of times, getting stuck on same clothes > > for months on end, etc) She is also chubby, with a larger > > belly. Her newest thing is to wear clothes that make her > > belly even more noticable (even in the face of vicious > > teasing from peers). She looks great in say, shorts and t > > shirt. But insists, especially on occasions that cause her a > > bit of stress (weddings, play dates, going to the movies > > with friends) on spending hours putting together strange > > outfits that look, frankly, horrible. Whether I try to > > nicely encourage her to wear appropriate clothing, or get > > forceful and insist she wears appropriate clothing, it never > > ends well. She insists I am putting her down, stifling her > > style, etc. I kind of hold back because if we have too much > > of a " row " over it, she regresses and goes back to wearing > > only one set of clothes for months on end (which is another > > round of vicious teasing from peers, > > not to mention causes her alot of stress when the clothes > > wear out, have to be washed, etc). I feel stuck, and > > frustrated. How can I talk to her and encourage her without > > her taking it so personal and causing a set back? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Our list archives feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// > > by scrolling down to the archives calendar . Our links > > may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//links > > . Our files may be accessed at > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group//files > > . > > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), and Dan Geller, M.D. ( > > http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?ID=18068 > > ). You may ask a question of any of these mental health > > professionals by inserting the words " Ask Dr.(insert name) " > > in the subject line of a post to the list. Our list > > moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and > > Barb Nesrallah. You may contact the moderators at -owner > > . OCDKidsLoop membership may be accessed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdkidsloop/ > > . Our group and related groups are listed at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links > > . IOCDF treatment providers list may be viewed at http://www.ocfoundation.info/treatment-providers-list.php > > . > > NLM-NIH Drug Information Portal may be viewed at > > http://druginfo.nlm.nih.gov/drugportal/drugportal.jsp?APPLICATION_NAME=drugporta\ l > > . IOCDF recommended reading list may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/Books.aspx . IOCDF > > glossary of terms may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.org/glossary.aspx > > . IOCDF membership link may be accessed at http://www.ocfoundation.net/membership/ . Drugs.com > > pill identification wizard may be accessed at http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php . Mayo Clinic > > Drug and Herb Index may be accessed at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DrugHerbIndex > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 It's always nice to know I am not the only parent that suffers from clothing issues! My dd also will wear the same outfit every day. She hates clothes because they never feel right. She will be going in to second grade and luckily she hasn't had too many peers make fun of her...yet. It's starting though and I know it will only get worse... In the past she has always found an outfit that works but then the season changes and we are back to square one. Bathing suit bottoms over an A-line dress is sometimes all we can muster. Since her last PANDAS episode in May, she refuses to even touch her clothes! She has recently started wearing a bathing suit on occasion but she has essentially been naked for almost two months... At this point I would let her wear almost anything if she was willing to put it on. I really worry how she will deal with her clothing issues as she gets older though. I think I may be in a similar place in a couple of years.. Hang in there!! - Becky > > I need help. My almost 10 year old mild OCD daughter has always had issues with clothes (changing hundreds of times, getting stuck on same clothes for months on end, etc) She is also chubby, with a larger belly. Her newest thing is to wear clothes that make her belly even more noticable (even in the face of vicious teasing from peers). She looks great in say, shorts and t shirt. But insists, especially on occasions that cause her a bit of stress (weddings, play dates, going to the movies with friends) on spending hours putting together strange outfits that look, frankly, horrible. Whether I try to nicely encourage her to wear appropriate clothing, or get forceful and insist she wears appropriate clothing, it never ends well. She insists I am putting her down, stifling her style, etc. I kind of hold back because if we have too much of a " row " over it, she regresses and goes back to wearing only one set of clothes for months on end (which is another round of vicious teasing from peers, not to mention causes her alot of stress when the clothes wear out, have to be washed, etc). I feel stuck, and frustrated. How can I talk to her and encourage her without her taking it so personal and causing a set back? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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