Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hi Debi: The state of Arizona is much more than desert, with beautiful mountains, ski resorts, and plush forests. However the entire state would be considered a " high desert " climate, which can mean temperatures in the 90's during the day, but in the 30's and 40's in the higher elevations during the nighttime hours. (Of course there is the western border with California which boasts a low elevation and soaring high temperatures, but it's a DRY heat lol.) There isn't a lot of humidity in Arizona, which is why forest fires in the western states burn more intensely. An average humidity would be in the teens, which is why it cools down so much at night (and nighttime cloud cover is rare). When you hike in the high deserts of Arizona you do sweat, but it evaporates quickly from the skin, cooling you off (unlike the soaking clothes you get when you walk in the south). Tucson gets hotter temperatures in the summer because it sits in a " bowl " but the residents frequently take weekend drives to the White Mountains nearby and enjoy the higher elevation coolness, similar to summertime in Telluride or Aspen. And Flagstaff, Arizona? A marvelous place with nice snow... and elk that wander down the mountains and into the city. Inside the city limits are caution signs saying " Watch for falling rock " and " Watch for elk " : ) Lee Debi wrote: I don't know how any of you stand deep South/Southwest. I live in TN and it's hot enough here in the summer. The thought of Southern Louisiana or the desert of Arizona makes me about pass out! When it gets humid here, and most of the summer the humidity is in the high 80%s, I don't wanna be anywhere but the pool. We just had a nice couple of wks here in the 70's, this weekend has been back in the 30's-50's. Debi - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hi Debi: The state of Arizona is much more than desert, with beautiful mountains, ski resorts, and plush forests. However the entire state would be considered a " high desert " climate, which can mean temperatures in the 90's during the day, but in the 30's and 40's in the higher elevations during the nighttime hours. (Of course there is the western border with California which boasts a low elevation and soaring high temperatures, but it's a DRY heat lol.) There isn't a lot of humidity in Arizona, which is why forest fires in the western states burn more intensely. An average humidity would be in the teens, which is why it cools down so much at night (and nighttime cloud cover is rare). When you hike in the high deserts of Arizona you do sweat, but it evaporates quickly from the skin, cooling you off (unlike the soaking clothes you get when you walk in the south). Tucson gets hotter temperatures in the summer because it sits in a " bowl " but the residents frequently take weekend drives to the White Mountains nearby and enjoy the higher elevation coolness, similar to summertime in Telluride or Aspen. And Flagstaff, Arizona? A marvelous place with nice snow... and elk that wander down the mountains and into the city. Inside the city limits are caution signs saying " Watch for falling rock " and " Watch for elk " : ) Lee Debi wrote: I don't know how any of you stand deep South/Southwest. I live in TN and it's hot enough here in the summer. The thought of Southern Louisiana or the desert of Arizona makes me about pass out! When it gets humid here, and most of the summer the humidity is in the high 80%s, I don't wanna be anywhere but the pool. We just had a nice couple of wks here in the 70's, this weekend has been back in the 30's-50's. Debi - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 It's the humidity that's the killer. You sweat but it just sits there on your skin and doesn't evaporatively cool your body. Just drips off while you swelter and feel uncomfortable in soaking wet clothes...YUCK!! My husband's family is from Oklahoma, and I made the grave error of visiting there with him one summer before was born. I informed him the next time I go there will be to deliver his ashes to his family....or better yet, I'll just FedEx them! LOL Give me perfect So Cal coastal mountains weather any time. Ocean breezes coming through the canyons bringing just enough humidity... desert, mountains, ocean all within range.... amazing services for my daughter.... and yes, insane housing costs, but we're 45 miles out of the city craziness and it's still pretty affordable out here, not to mention less traffic, more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. > Hi Debi: > The state of Arizona is much more than desert, with beautiful > mountains, ski resorts, and plush forests. However the entire > state would be considered a " high desert " climate, which can mean > temperatures in the 90's during the day, but in the 30's and 40's > in the higher elevations during the nighttime hours. (Of course > there is the western border with California which boasts a low > elevation and soaring high temperatures, but it's a DRY heat lol.) > There isn't a lot of humidity in Arizona, which is why forest fires > in the western states burn more intensely. An average humidity > would be in the teens, which is why it cools down so much at night > (and nighttime cloud cover is rare). When you hike in the high > deserts of Arizona you do sweat, but it evaporates quickly from the > skin, cooling you off (unlike the soaking clothes you get when you > walk in the south). > Tucson gets hotter temperatures in the summer because it sits in > a " bowl " but the residents frequently take weekend drives to the > White Mountains nearby and enjoy the higher elevation coolness, > similar to summertime in Telluride or Aspen. And Flagstaff, > Arizona? A marvelous place with nice snow... and elk that wander > down the mountains and into the city. Inside the city limits are > caution signs saying " Watch for falling rock " and " Watch for elk " : ) > Lee > > Debi wrote: > I don't know how any of you stand deep South/Southwest. I > live in TN > and it's hot enough here in the summer. The thought of Southern > Louisiana or the desert of Arizona makes me about pass out! When it > gets humid here, and most of the summer the humidity is in the high > 80%s, I don't wanna be anywhere but the pool. > > We just had a nice couple of wks here in the 70's, this weekend has > been back in the 30's-50's. > > Debi > > - > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 It's the humidity that's the killer. You sweat but it just sits there on your skin and doesn't evaporatively cool your body. Just drips off while you swelter and feel uncomfortable in soaking wet clothes...YUCK!! My husband's family is from Oklahoma, and I made the grave error of visiting there with him one summer before was born. I informed him the next time I go there will be to deliver his ashes to his family....or better yet, I'll just FedEx them! LOL Give me perfect So Cal coastal mountains weather any time. Ocean breezes coming through the canyons bringing just enough humidity... desert, mountains, ocean all within range.... amazing services for my daughter.... and yes, insane housing costs, but we're 45 miles out of the city craziness and it's still pretty affordable out here, not to mention less traffic, more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. > Hi Debi: > The state of Arizona is much more than desert, with beautiful > mountains, ski resorts, and plush forests. However the entire > state would be considered a " high desert " climate, which can mean > temperatures in the 90's during the day, but in the 30's and 40's > in the higher elevations during the nighttime hours. (Of course > there is the western border with California which boasts a low > elevation and soaring high temperatures, but it's a DRY heat lol.) > There isn't a lot of humidity in Arizona, which is why forest fires > in the western states burn more intensely. An average humidity > would be in the teens, which is why it cools down so much at night > (and nighttime cloud cover is rare). When you hike in the high > deserts of Arizona you do sweat, but it evaporates quickly from the > skin, cooling you off (unlike the soaking clothes you get when you > walk in the south). > Tucson gets hotter temperatures in the summer because it sits in > a " bowl " but the residents frequently take weekend drives to the > White Mountains nearby and enjoy the higher elevation coolness, > similar to summertime in Telluride or Aspen. And Flagstaff, > Arizona? A marvelous place with nice snow... and elk that wander > down the mountains and into the city. Inside the city limits are > caution signs saying " Watch for falling rock " and " Watch for elk " : ) > Lee > > Debi wrote: > I don't know how any of you stand deep South/Southwest. I > live in TN > and it's hot enough here in the summer. The thought of Southern > Louisiana or the desert of Arizona makes me about pass out! When it > gets humid here, and most of the summer the humidity is in the high > 80%s, I don't wanna be anywhere but the pool. > > We just had a nice couple of wks here in the 70's, this weekend has > been back in the 30's-50's. > > Debi > > - > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 1:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. like people who run naked? eric 'gutter boy!' aka abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 1:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. like people who run naked? eric 'gutter boy!' aka abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 1:53:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, amnestyb@... writes: .. Definitely worth it. I've lived in AZ, NY, NJ, and GA, and I just don't know why anyone would stay there if they didn't HAVE to! LOL Amnesty its nothing compared to the beauty of upper michigan cold in the winter so just stay in wiht the warm fire and cook at get good and fat....lol eric abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 1:53:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, amnestyb@... writes: .. Definitely worth it. I've lived in AZ, NY, NJ, and GA, and I just don't know why anyone would stay there if they didn't HAVE to! LOL Amnesty its nothing compared to the beauty of upper michigan cold in the winter so just stay in wiht the warm fire and cook at get good and fat....lol eric abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 6:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: Asolutely...Asolutely...<WBR>.now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbor so your saying you want me to hike naked more....lol eric gutter boy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 6:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: Asolutely...Asolutely...<WBR>.now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbor so your saying you want me to hike naked more....lol eric gutter boy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Asolutely....now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbors hike naked! > > like people who run naked? > eric 'gutter boy!' > aka abbys dad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Asolutely....now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbors hike naked! > > like people who run naked? > eric 'gutter boy!' > aka abbys dad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I thought down-to-earth meant lying prone in the dirt LOL _____ From: Autism_in_Girls [mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of cathylynn2 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:33 PM To: Autism_in_Girls Subject: Re: Re: Arizona Asolutely...-.now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbors hike naked! On Mar 19, 2007, at 4:14 PM, HYPERLINK " mailto:abbysdad42%40aol.com " abbysdad42aol (DOT) -com wrote: > > like people who run naked? > eric 'gutter boy!' > aka abbys dad > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date: 3/17/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date: 3/17/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I thought down-to-earth meant lying prone in the dirt LOL _____ From: Autism_in_Girls [mailto:Autism_in_Girls ] On Behalf Of cathylynn2 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:33 PM To: Autism_in_Girls Subject: Re: Re: Arizona Asolutely...-.now THAT's down-to-earth when your neighbors hike naked! On Mar 19, 2007, at 4:14 PM, HYPERLINK " mailto:abbysdad42%40aol.com " abbysdad42aol (DOT) -com wrote: > > like people who run naked? > eric 'gutter boy!' > aka abbys dad > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date: 3/17/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date: 3/17/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well, you can be sure Mr. Naked did some nude sunbathing up there on the trail, so I suppose that counts for something! > I thought down-to-earth meant lying prone in the dirt LOL > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well, you can be sure Mr. Naked did some nude sunbathing up there on the trail, so I suppose that counts for something! > I thought down-to-earth meant lying prone in the dirt LOL > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hey, if Pennie will let you out.... > > so your saying you want me to hike naked more....lol > eric gutter boy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hey, if Pennie will let you out.... > > so your saying you want me to hike naked more....lol > eric gutter boy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 A close friend of mine recently moved to Texas from CA because her husband got transferred at work. They lived in a small condo here with two little kids, and they sold it and bought in a new development, gated, huge, etc. She calls me almost every day crying, wishing she had her condo back. Yeah, the house is big and nice, but it's not CA. I've lived in MA, CO, NY.... nothing compared to CA for me. As far as rent goes, it varies so much depending on so many factors. Like anything else, you get what you pay for. Ave. $650 - $2450/mo. > I have a friend who was living in LA, about 4 yrs ago they sold their > 1000 sq footer & bought a 5000sqft in gated community north of Dallas, > TX. Paid cash, still had money left over from the sale of the LA > house. Pretty cool anytime you can do anything like that! > > What is the rent like? Here rent is about the same as buying so it's > not that different. > > Debi > > >> >> Well, I've only lived in CA for 2 years, and it's definitely NOT what >> I was accustomed to! Which I think is why I appreciate it so much >> I don't have my MA (yet) and it will be a long time before we can buy >> a house, but I still would rather rent here than buy in other places. >> We sold our house in GA to move here. >> Amnesty >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 A close friend of mine recently moved to Texas from CA because her husband got transferred at work. They lived in a small condo here with two little kids, and they sold it and bought in a new development, gated, huge, etc. She calls me almost every day crying, wishing she had her condo back. Yeah, the house is big and nice, but it's not CA. I've lived in MA, CO, NY.... nothing compared to CA for me. As far as rent goes, it varies so much depending on so many factors. Like anything else, you get what you pay for. Ave. $650 - $2450/mo. > I have a friend who was living in LA, about 4 yrs ago they sold their > 1000 sq footer & bought a 5000sqft in gated community north of Dallas, > TX. Paid cash, still had money left over from the sale of the LA > house. Pretty cool anytime you can do anything like that! > > What is the rent like? Here rent is about the same as buying so it's > not that different. > > Debi > > >> >> Well, I've only lived in CA for 2 years, and it's definitely NOT what >> I was accustomed to! Which I think is why I appreciate it so much >> I don't have my MA (yet) and it will be a long time before we can buy >> a house, but I still would rather rent here than buy in other places. >> We sold our house in GA to move here. >> Amnesty >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Gutter boy is all yours ! Pennie Abby's Mom gutter woman ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Gutter boy is all yours ! Pennie Abby's Mom gutter woman ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I now live in Colorado and yes it is beautiful but I grew up in Arizona and I miss it. Besides a ton of other factors, Arizona is also much better for services for our kiddos. All of our speech, ot, music therapy etc. was paid for and we had a habilitation therapist and respite provider. They also have SARRC (Southwest Autism Research and Resource Center) which is great. Colorado is very behind the times in many ways. They have zero for services here oh unless you are considered, " retarded " yes they still use that word! Then if you qualify you go on a waiting list and in 2 to 5 years you might get an annual stipened of $125 to help with therapy. I would go back to AZ in a heartbeat to be able to get my kids all of that help. Just my two cents worth! Re: Re: Arizona In a message dated 3/19/07 1:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. like people who run naked? eric 'gutter boy!' aka abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I now live in Colorado and yes it is beautiful but I grew up in Arizona and I miss it. Besides a ton of other factors, Arizona is also much better for services for our kiddos. All of our speech, ot, music therapy etc. was paid for and we had a habilitation therapist and respite provider. They also have SARRC (Southwest Autism Research and Resource Center) which is great. Colorado is very behind the times in many ways. They have zero for services here oh unless you are considered, " retarded " yes they still use that word! Then if you qualify you go on a waiting list and in 2 to 5 years you might get an annual stipened of $125 to help with therapy. I would go back to AZ in a heartbeat to be able to get my kids all of that help. Just my two cents worth! Re: Re: Arizona In a message dated 3/19/07 1:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cathybuckley@... writes: more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. like people who run naked? eric 'gutter boy!' aka abbys dad ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Having lived in CA, then IL, & now AZ, I must say I like it here the best. Since I like the sun, AZ is great for that. When I lived in IL, there were no services & no active parents groups in Urbana & no resources. (CA was pre autism). In AZ, I have found many active & involved parents who are very knowledgeable & working hard to actively recover their kids in many different ways. SARRC is a looking professional agency with lots (relatively speaking, b/c when is it evver enough $) of corporate connections b/c it is run by a mom who owns her own PR company. Their research focus is mostly genetics related with T-Gen, a major genetics research company. The biggest thing is that they actively DISCOURAGE parents about biomedical, & I have heard that said repeatedly from other parents. I don't think any group that is a referral/resource agency should say what is good or not for parents; they should offer the info & let the parents decide & not hide/withhold info to the parents. I may not agree with dolphin therapy as a major treatment modality, for example,but I wouldn't actively NOT give out the info if it came up. (Of what little I know) There is a lot to offer here in AZ, I think, & lots more to do to make it better for our kids. Marie > > I now live in Colorado and yes it is beautiful but I grew up in Arizona > and I miss it. > Besides a ton of other factors, Arizona is also much better for services > for our kiddos. > All of our speech, ot, music therapy etc. was paid for and we had a > habilitation therapist and respite > provider. They also have SARRC (Southwest Autism Research and Resource > Center) which is great. > Colorado is very behind the times in many ways. They have zero for > services here oh unless you are > considered, " retarded " yes they still use that word! Then if you qualify > you go on a waiting list and in 2 to 5 years > you might get an annual stipened of $125 to help with therapy. I would go > back to AZ in a heartbeat to be able to > get my kids all of that help. Just my two cents worth! > > Re: Re: Arizona > > > > In a message dated 3/19/07 1:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cathybuckley@... writes: > > more peace and quiet and down-to-earth people. > > > > like people who run naked? > eric 'gutter boy!' > aka abbys dad > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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