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I got this off another list I am on and wondered if any of you know if this applies to milk?

Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/

Everyone has good reasons for avoiding soy. Not only for thephytoestrogens but for the hexane that is used to treat 95% of the soyused in the US. Hexane is a known neurotoxin and carcinogen. Go to theWeston A Price site and read what happens to people that use soy, esp.soy formula for children. I have also heard that 50% of the soy in theUS is Genetically engineered for roundup resistence. Not only do theypoison you with hexane they also boombard you with roundup. Georg Ann

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K.C/Debbie,

I think Debbie is asking if soy affects dairy milk? Or if soymilk is

also detrimental? Not sure which?

Soymilk is definitely questionable as people food. There's a slew of

info here:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

It most definitely does affect dairy milk.

According to Trauger Groh:

" I have followed for many years the sickening effect of soy on

ruminants. Cows that formerly could easily reach the age of 15 years

and have 12 calves have on average now less than three calves and

reach hardly the age of six. One main reason is the high percentage of

soy in the rations. It works into the buildup of ammonia in the rumen.

This affects negatively the liver and then shows up in mastitis and

sterility. Off they go to the butcher. Only there can a vet identify

the defective livers.

The soybean, bringing about high milk yields in the first two

lactations, is the curse of our cattle herds. And the milk achieved

through it is not health promoting either. . . If awake consumers,

environmentalists, nutritionists and farmers do not work concretely

together in the future there will not be any healthy farms nor healthy

foods. "

http://www.realmilk.com/soy.html

-Blair

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> No it doesn't apply to milk unless people are using GM (genetically

modified) grain and LOTS OF IT. Raw milk is normally sold from cows

that are fed grass and alfalfa and some grain used at milking.

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> Soy is a bean grown massively in this country and genetically

modified by Monsanto. It has been known to be bad for people for a

long time, but the majority of people just don't get a clue.

>

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> K.C.

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Asians only eat 10 grams of soy a day max. and it is fermented making it possible for their bodies to digest the soy. They do not drink soy milk, eat the processed soy foods that Americans consume heavily. Soy suppresses the thyroid, causes problems with the pancreas and has a multitude of other problems. Did you realize that msg is made from soy? Scary, eh? 89% of soy in America is genetically modified (that statistic I got from the USDA site last night). A lot of European countries have banned GM foods because of their health risks. Our foods are filled with soy - which is highly processed...not a good thing. Go to www.westonaprice.org for more information. There will be studies etc. for you to look at there. A good book to read is The Whole Soy Story. We have been led astray by the soy industry....

Taaron

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I have to wonder about all the scare I hear on this site about soy as well. One lady bought up a very good point about look at all the asian population, and they are so much healthier than americans and soy is a staple in their diet. With all that I have read you would think this population would be very ill, and they aren't.I guess I deleted too quickly could those of you who put sites on soy please email me privately so I can start to investigate this further. It seems like there is a scare on everything. I have read how soy has helped women overcome breast cancer when they were essentially wrote off as terminal.Brittany

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>>>Asians only eat 10 grams of soy a day max. and it is fermented making it possible for their bodies to digest the soy. They do not drink soy milk, eat the processed soy foods that Americans consume heavily. Soy suppresses the thyroid, causes problems with the pancreas and has a multitude of other problems. Did you realize that msg is made from soy? Scary, eh? 89% of soy in America is genetically modified (that statistic I got from the USDA site last night). A lot of European countries have banned GM foods because of their health risks. Our foods are filled with soy - which is highly processed... not a good thing. Go to www.westonaprice. org for more information. There will be studies etc. for you to look at there. A good book to read is The Whole Soy Story. We have been led astray by the soy industry....

Taaron>>>See, I knew someone else would be better than me at the science of soy! ;)They are getting into the soy milk and tofu like us but it is because of us and some bad science in the 50's and 60's that caused this increase in soy in their diets now.Jenn Wolf in Vegas

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