Re: American Biotech Labs Receives New EPA Approvals

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One of the most important new approvals was for environmental fungi, including black mold. Black mold is common in buildings throughout the U.S., and often causes upper respiratory tract infections. Black mold is notoriously difficult to kill, and to the best of ABL leadership's knowledge, ABL's ASAP-AGX-32® is the only non-toxic and non-irritating product that has received EPA approval for this use.

Wow, EPA-approved for killing black mold. We'd all better use this on our black mold projects, then, eh? Don't want to catch any of those black mold URIs. I wonder if anyone approved the advertising claims in this press release.

Steve Temes

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Actually Stachybotrys is a pretty tough mold to remove compared to Pen/Asp type mold.

Jeez ,

You keep making statements like this as though we are all supposed to accept them as fact. Please explain how Stachy is pretty tough to remove compared to Pen/Asp. Is it because it doesn't "dissolve in bleach" as well? When sheetrock has been/is wet enough to support Stachy growth, the sheetrock should be probably be removed. No? What surfaces are you removing Stachy from?

Steve Temes

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and it received EPA "approval"! I best run right out and buy me a gob of these stuff...

Geez! Enough already! That's almost as good as Siemen's Mold Removal...

Larkin, CRMI, WRT

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Re: American Biotech Labs Receives New EPA Approvals

In a message dated 12/12/2006 11:03:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, snk1955aol (DOT) com writes:

One of the most important new approvals was for environmental fungi, including black mold. Black mold is common in buildings throughout the U.S., and often causes upper respiratory tract infections. Black mold is notoriously difficult to kill, and to the best of ABL leadership's knowledge, ABL's ASAP-AGX-32® is the only non-toxic and non-irritating product that has received EPA approval for this use. Wow, EPA-approved for killing black mold. We'd all better use this on our black mold projects, then, eh? Don't want to catch any of those black mold URIs. I wonder if anyone approved the advertising claims in this press release.Steve Temes

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Actually Stachybotrys is a pretty tough mold to remove compared to Pen/Asp type mold. I should think that people would be open to new technology that could help us in our jobs.

Rosen

Re: American Biotech Labs Receives New EPA Approvals

& Steve,I wonder what should be used to kill mold of other colors? Couldn't an argument be made that this product is guilty of "profiling"?Cheers,Chuck Reaneyand it received EPA "approval"! I best run right out and buy me a gobof these stuff...Geez! Enough already! That's almost as good as Siemen's MoldRemoval... Larkin, CRMI, WRTERS Serviceseliresyahoo (DOT) com

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Don't you get it ? EPA does not "approve" products. One can register their products with EPA but even that process undergoes some scrutiny. For instance, a claim that a product "kills" mold is a no-no (used as a technical term for DON'T DO IT). A claim stating that a product "sanitizes" is okie-dokie (used as a technical term for GO FOR IT).

The use of bleach during mold remediation was taken off the EPA literature a few years back. Why? Bleach produces a class 1 carcinogen called dioxin when used on wood products. Yes, bleach has it's purposes, it will "bleach" out stains which can be good if you are a soccer mom. However, using bleach during remediation has been replaced by the EPA with a simple surfactant (do you know what that word means).

The idea here, , is that source removal is what we strive for. That way you don't have to worry about if it's dead, if it is producing mycotoxins, if it is snorting dust mites, or any other thing that could possibly take place. If it's gone, you don't have to worry your pretty little head about it.

As for Tilex, they had some great PR pieces done up with the scary lady screaming her head off over mold in the shower. But that is just that, PR. A check of their website finds that the recommended use is for shower tiles, grout, and other hard surfaces. Also, it states for use with "common household molds". I have requested a copy of "common household molds" from them and will report back if I get an answer. Do you think it will include Asp/Pen, Stachybotrys, or my personal favorite, Chaetomium?

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Re: American Biotech Labs Receives New EPA Approvals

& Steve,I wonder what should be used to kill mold of other colors? Couldn't an argument be made that this product is guilty of "profiling"?Cheers,Chuck Reaneyand it received EPA "approval"! I best run right out and buy me a gobof these stuff...Geez! Enough already! That's almost as good as Siemen's MoldRemoval... Larkin, CRMI, WRTERS Serviceseliresyahoo (DOT) com

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Why would you be interested in " new technology that can help us in our

jobs " when you just espoused the wonders of bleach? Why would you

possibly ever think, in your wildest delusions that anything on this

planet or any other could be better, after the rave reviews and cost

effectiveness that you cited?

Fire could also help us do our jobs better and that's very old

technology. Unfortunately, it involves a lot of collateral damage. But

according to your free-wheeling " wisdom " , even fire couldn't be better

than bleach, right?

Tell me, do you sit up late at night and re-read all of your posts to

impress yourself with yourself? I hope so, because I don't think that

anyone else here is impressed.

People like you are a big part of the problem with this industry, . I

wish you'd go back to writing books or something to vent your

" creative " energy, rather than spreading your fantasies &

misinformation here.

Have you ever thought of writing children's books? There's lot of room

for fantasy in that market.

Trying to keep quiet, but I can't take anymore...

Chuck Reaney, lowly CIAQC, CIAQP, etc., etc., & Cro-Magnon

Irishman Consultant

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Actually Stachybotrys is a pretty tough mold to remove compared to

Pen/Asp type mold. I should think that people would be open to new

technology that could help us in our jobs.

Rosen