Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 , For us it was one persons comment on the list a while ago that only following Nourishing Traditions part way doesn't work that clicked. We have been drinking whole goats milk etc and losing this weight but the grains are as recommended in the book. Now as far as the Clenzology etc. no we haven't tried these products. Farmers income and six to support didn't allow for that but we have been conscious about washing hands more etc. It is a very informative book. You can email me personal anytime you want. Glad to help. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Some of the statements made about pork and pigs and different things like that. I know better, even when I was brought up not to eat pork, I've seen in a lot of cases, especially home raised, is much cleaner then most meats in the stores. There were several other things that went against the grain as well, but don't remember all of them. I might look at some of the dietary stuff again as I need to lose some weight. But, 30 lbs. in one month? They must have had a lot to lose. Normally, even on a very good, well balanced diet, people won't drop that much in a month even when they have lots more to drop. K.C. Re: sharing good news >> >> >> You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and > gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of things > you can use in changing your diet. >> >> I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the things > he was saying, so got off. >> >> K.C. >> >> >> >> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! >> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ >> >> Archive search: http://onibasu.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 In the book it says that he gained weight back that he needed by doing this regime. After day 29 there are few restrictions. Other than the pork and better grain choices than white bleached flour etc. He also says avoid not totally abstain from things so I think that is a difference too. I am liking the recipes and the ideas on how to use milk and grains in the Nourishing Traditions book too. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Re: sharing good news can't speak to the diet thing cause i'm skinny and wish i could gain some weight. but i can't get with you on the pork thing. i've read that pigs and shellfish are the garbage collectors of the animal kingdom on too many different websites (read that pigs have microscopic larvae that don't die even in 500 degree ovens - ewww!). so i had no problem accepting that tidbit along with his raw milk testimony.katrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I know people who raise pigs and they are not garbage collectors. I know for a fact they are cleaner then cattle in the way they live. Now what mass producers feed them, I can't speak to, but then all pork and most meat in general is all irradiated for the market today. I have absolutely no problem with shellfish at all. Love almost all of it. K.C. Re: sharing good news >> >> >> >> >> >> You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and >> > gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of > things >> > you can use in changing your diet. >> >> >> >> I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the > things >> > he was saying, so got off. >> >> >> >> K.C. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! >> >> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ >> >> >> >> Archive search: http://onibasu.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Also, you can read all kinds of stuff on the net. People who are against raw dairy will tell you that you shouldn't drink milk after you are a child that it's bad for you.....ANY MILK. Raw milk will cause you to DIE. Some advocate not drinking milk because it comes from a warm blooded animal and consider it abuse to breed an animal so you can have it's milk. Vegans would report you for keeping beef cattle in some areas just to cause you trouble because they don't eat any meat. It goes on and on. Just depends on who you talk to. Yes, pork has to be cooked through and through, but I've been eating pork for years and have never had any problems with it.....even before it was irradiated. Never had a problem with shellfish. Some people love catfish and if you want to talk garbage guts, they are by far, the worse of the bunch because they are true scavengers. But, people love them. Different strokes for different folks. K.C. Re: sharing good news >> >> >> >> >> >> You can sign up for the email news. It's a daily thing and >> > gives tips, plus you can go to the site and see all kinds of > things >> > you can use in changing your diet. >> >> >> >> I was on the email list, but just didn't believe all the > things >> > he was saying, so got off. >> >> >> >> K.C. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! >> >> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ >> >> >> >> Archive search: http://onibasu.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I have raised pigs for 20 + years and they are not garbage collectors unless you fee them the crap! They are very clean animals and usually hate a dirty pen. they defecate in one corner only usually and sleep in another and feed in another area here at our farm. They forage like chickens in the ground for goodies and love fresh veggies and fruits, milk, whey. Now commercial pig farms are a different ballgame all together and raised the same as other factory raised animals, cheapest feeds, pushed meds and feed and out the door usually sick in health. This does not mean all factory farms but lets say all the ones I have had the displeasure to have seen. The bottom line is the reason for having them not raising good meat. it's quick and cheap. Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 16/02/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I've never raised them, but what you are saying is what I've heard from everyone that does raise them for their families each year. The only problem now is the price at sale. My friend usually raises 3 like she did this year. It costs her about $200 each to raise from baby to ready for the butcher. She figured she would sell one or two and have the last for her and her family. The problem is, she could only get $60 max at sale so I told her to have the two butchered and that way she wouldn't have to get babies next time. She agreed and figured she would get a couple half grown from the farmer next time and just have to raise it to finish. That way it wouldn't cost so much. She has goats and mini cattle, so they get the good milk and all the veggies and a little grain at the end. K.C. RE: Re: sharing good news >I have raised pigs for 20 + years and they are not garbage collectors >unless > you fee them the crap! > They are very clean animals and usually hate a dirty pen. they defecate in > one corner only usually and sleep in another and feed in another area here > at our farm. They forage like chickens in the ground for goodies and love > fresh veggies and fruits, milk, whey. > > Now commercial pig farms are a different ballgame all together and raised > the same as other factory raised animals, cheapest feeds, pushed meds and > feed and out the door usually sick in health. This does not mean all > factory > farms but lets say all the ones I have had the displeasure to have seen. > The > bottom line is the reason for having them not raising good meat. it's > quick > and cheap. > > > Regards, > Bev & > Miskin Meadows Farm > http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html > Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: > 16/02/2006 > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maybe in the late 1800's people kept their personal hogs in this manner, but the people I know keep their pigs cleaned. Moreover, the fat has been bred out of pork and in the 70's, 80's and 90's it was proven that lamb and beef were much more fatty then pork, hence the ad saying " the other white meat. " Plus, if you haven't been reading lately, the use of LARD is back in as is butter over oleo/margarine, which was originally designed to feed pigs, only it killed them, so they decided to sell it to humans. Eating strictly what the old testiment (love that brimstone & fire) preaches pretty much cuts out anything that mere refrigeration has made edible and worry free. Additionally, I figure most people will worm their animals just like we do with cattle, goats and sheep, all of which we eat today. People used to think tomatoes were poison and no one on the east coast even knew what an avacado was in the 40's & 50's. Times change, food handling and raising changes and short of GM food and grains, I think we, the local farmer, have made food safer all the way around. If you choose to believe everything from the bible and what people thought in the 18th and 19th century about food, that's fine. Each person has to chose for themselves. K.C. RE: Re: sharing good news >> >> >> >I have raised pigs for 20 + years and they are not garbage > collectors >> >unless >> > you fee them the crap! >> > They are very clean animals and usually hate a dirty pen. they > defecate in >> > one corner only usually and sleep in another and feed in another > area here >> > at our farm. They forage like chickens in the ground for goodies > and love >> > fresh veggies and fruits, milk, whey. >> > >> > Now commercial pig farms are a different ballgame all together > and raised >> > the same as other factory raised animals, cheapest feeds, pushed > meds and >> > feed and out the door usually sick in health. This does not mean > all >> > factory >> > farms but lets say all the ones I have had the displeasure to > have seen. >> > The >> > bottom line is the reason for having them not raising good meat. > it's >> > quick >> > and cheap. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > Bev & >> > Miskin Meadows Farm >> > http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html >> > Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: >> > 16/02/2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! >> > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ >> > >> > Archive search: http://onibasu.com >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maybe you all should try to think about the real problems in the world, diet soda, fast food, bad water, processed food, lack of alternative energy supplies. These are the things that do huge damage to our children. If you believe the pork has poisons in it, prove it. And using the bible to prove it is quite the joke. Poisons can be easy tested. I was always led to believe that I was to think on my own. Most of the Worlds problems can be traced to different religions beliefs. You can live a life of faith. But try to think for your self. We have been blessed with the ability of thinking. Try using it. Jeff Grotte I've stopped 17,045 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: sharing good news Pork is one of those things people will eat regardless of the dangers. All sorts of rationalization will be used for why an animal created as a garbage disposal is ok to eat. Even if not fed " perceived " bad things, a pig is designed to retain poisons. They don't sweat. You'll have to make up your own mind as the rest of us have, but why risk it? Also, you may want to read the food laws in Lev. 11. For me, that alone is enough, regardless of how churches try to explain it away. Cheyenne > > i don't know guys. go to yahoo and type in dangers of eating pork > and click on the article by that name and written by j.h. kellogg. > kinda gross. i know that the internet is full of lies as well as > truth but i've read these things in books and heard them before as > well so i'm inclined to roll with that line of thought. tell me what > you think about the article though especially the person that raises > the pigs, do you agree with any of the article. > > thanks > > katrina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 KC I choose to believe everything written in the bible including the New Testement that says Jesus is the new covenant and those laws are for those who don't follow Jesus. Blessings, Trisha If you choose to believe everything from the bible and what people thought in the 18th and 19th century about food, that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 My Gawd you cannot be serious to allow this outdated description be your guide on whether to eat pork or not! This description is how pork as well as many animals were devoured in the far past not at all like today's standards. For starters, today's pigs are not allowed to wallow to cool off in mud, hell they don't even go outside of the pens in a factory setting!! To say that they are flea ridden, and have skin disorders is virtually untrue in this day and age. they have to wallow in mud if they are outside in the sun to protect their skins from cancers( even humans aren't smart enough to do this for themselves, we use chemicals and allow them to bake into our skin as our protection) and this helps them cool their body temps down , much like we take a shower or jump in a pool. Geez I hear some places in this world where the mud is cleaner than the drinking water. If there is mange or scruffy skin it is because the farmer or producer wasn't keeping the animals and barns clean and were neglectful of their animals. As for fat on a pig? Well they have less fat now than most beef carry and even less than lots of chicken if you compare carcass percentages. Our standards today are lean carcasses not fatty. Some of my own pigs are so lean that we have to get fat from a beef to make the sausages we produce. If a pig is fat it is usually the small farm pig as most tend to allow the animals free access to grains and other foods, but even then they are not fat like they used to produce. Besides back then the fat was used for candles, cooking, eating etc it kept the pioneers warm on a cold winters day and night. We do not utilize this method of keeping warm now !! Do you see the open sore or issue? In a home raised pig or even a factory piggery that does not utilize cages for housing you will not see open sores. the only time you will see this in today's society is the factory farms where the sow lives all it's adult/child bearing lives in that cage. they haven't enough room to move so they get sores. IMHO this is why most folks should NOT eat pork from a factory farm , ( it becomes more of a moral question whether to keep giving these factories permission to do this or not and to stop that is to stop eating factory produced cheap pork and go to your nearest farmer and buy humanely produced meats from them. big producers will listen then when their sales have dropped but this is unrealistic thinking as who would rather pay $1.50 a pound for something they can usually get for 89cents in the grocery store.) Again moral decision on each individuals part! In the 20 years I have owned pigs we have never had a single open sore! I am sure by now you get my gist. If your concerned about pork meat buy it from a local farmer who cares for their animals as if they were family and you will enjoy some of the best meats on the planet. You will also be helping to keep the small farmer farming and supplying good wholesome and healthy meats. If you believe this crap spewing from this very outdated information, then my suggestion to you is DO NOT EAT PORK!! and you will be missing out on something wonderful and healthy for you. I have a question: do you personally eat Bacon? Ribs from any/most restaurants? Do you eat Ham? If you can answer yes to any one of these then you are a pork eater already!! Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 16/02/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hmmm you will find articles of why any food can be dangerous if you wish to pick anything. the veggies grown are deadly because of all the chemicals they use to grow them and how we are fooled in thinking that water can wash off the crap when it is sprayed from the beginning and grow with it inside the plant, its not just on the outside. It also cannot be washed off with anything remnants remain always. One must use common sense before believing articles from the past as our growing methods have evolved plenty since those times. Also one must realize new dangers exist such a microwaves , chemicals all those things they didn't have for preserving foods back then, sanitary issues which barely even were given a thought .unlike today's society which is clean freaks.. My suggestion is to type in benefits of eating pork or go to the pork website. you can counter anything if you look at both sides of the coin not just one. In life there are many inherent dangers of eating or drinking any food imaginable that can be dangerous to your health. If you don't know how to cook it right? you can die from it.. etc... Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 16/02/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I completely agree with you. One of the things that got me a little upset about the Maker's Diet newsletter was that he said that pigs were so dirty and infected because they routinely ate their young. I have NEVER, since 1975, when I met my first home raised pig, heard of them eating their young. I was told that if they are in really bad conditions and they allow a male around the mother and piglets, she might do this as a protection thing, but no one I've ever known that raises pigs has ever had a mom eat her babies. It's the lies from the radicals that get me worked up when it comes to food and animals. Most of these people have never spent even one minute with any livestock or they are taking the word of someone on line or who has written something that doesn't know what they are talking about. Just look at the millions of people who think you will surely die if you drink raw milk. Do any of us put stock in that thinking? Why believe what was written more then 1000 years ago or even 100 years ago? K.C. RE: Re: sharing good news > My Gawd you cannot be serious to allow this outdated description be your > guide on whether to eat pork or not! This description is how pork as well > as many animals were devoured in the far past not at all like today's > standards. > > For starters, today's pigs are not allowed to wallow to cool off in mud, > hell they don't even go outside of the pens in a factory setting!! To say > that they are flea ridden, and have skin disorders is virtually untrue in > this day and age. they have to wallow in mud if they are outside in the > sun > to protect their skins from cancers( even humans aren't smart enough to do > this for themselves, we use chemicals and allow them to bake into our skin > as our protection) and this helps them cool their body temps down , much > like we take a shower or jump in a pool. Geez I hear some places in this > world where the mud is cleaner than the drinking water. If there is mange > or > scruffy skin it is because the farmer or producer wasn't keeping the > animals > and barns clean and were neglectful of their animals. > > As for fat on a pig? Well they have less fat now than most beef carry and > even less than lots of chicken if you compare carcass percentages. Our > standards today are lean carcasses not fatty. Some of my own pigs are so > lean that we have to get fat from a beef to make the sausages we produce. > If > a pig is fat it is usually the small farm pig as most tend to allow the > animals free access to grains and other foods, but even then they are not > fat like they used to produce. Besides back then the fat was used for > candles, cooking, eating etc it kept the pioneers warm on a cold winters > day > and night. We do not utilize this method of keeping warm now !! > > Do you see the open sore or issue? > In a home raised pig or even a factory piggery that does not utilize cages > for housing you will not see open sores. the only time you will see this > in > today's society is the factory farms where the sow lives all it's > adult/child bearing lives in that cage. they haven't enough room to move > so > they get sores. IMHO this is why most folks should NOT eat pork from a > factory farm , ( it becomes more of a moral question whether to keep > giving > these factories permission to do this or not and to stop that is to stop > eating factory produced cheap pork and go to your nearest farmer and buy > humanely produced meats from them. big producers will listen then when > their > sales have dropped but this is unrealistic thinking as who would rather > pay > $1.50 a pound for something they can usually get for 89cents in the > grocery > store.) Again moral decision on each individuals part! > In the 20 years I have owned pigs we have never had a single open sore! > > > I am sure by now you get my gist. If your concerned about pork meat buy it > from a local farmer who cares for their animals as if they were family and > you will enjoy some of the best meats on the planet. You will also be > helping to keep the small farmer farming and supplying good wholesome and > healthy meats. > > If you believe this crap spewing from this very outdated information, then > my suggestion to you is DO NOT EAT PORK!! and you will be missing out on > something wonderful and healthy for you. > > I have a question: do you personally eat Bacon? Ribs from any/most > restaurants? Do you eat Ham? If you can answer yes to any one of these > then > you are a pork eater already!! > > Regards, > Bev & > Miskin Meadows Farm > http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html > Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: > 16/02/2006 > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I raise pigs for my family and I sell some also I feed ALL orginc and goats milk to them. We had one at 295 hangging weight and had no grease when we cook is. It is so good. I would not do a pig anyother way. Thresa K.C.: The farmer I get mine from gives them NO corn, and tons of dairy. I won't eat pig that's consumed any corn products because so much corn is GMO anymore. I never EVER eat pork from grocery stores..though it's easy to tell when it's irradiated: it turns bright pink/red and smells like a wet dog. I love shellfish too. I just had a lobster at a local restaurant the other day, and they even kept the roe intact for me to eat..it was absolutely delicious! Robin > > I know people who raise pigs and they are not garbage collectors. I know for a fact they are cleaner then cattle in the way they live. Now what mass producers feed them, I can't speak to, but then all pork and most meat in general is all irradiated for the market today. I have absolutely no problem with shellfish at all. Love almost all of it. > > K.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Well guys I know my uncle used to sleep in the barn at piglet time so the sows wouldn't lay on their young or eat them. So did my husbands aunt. This was not a isolated instance. the meat from factory barns is full of antibiotics due to the fact that they feed them low doses for growth and to keep illness at bay in overcroweded setting. No more healthy than the milk from a modern dairy. there is a lot of good information in these publications other than the mans description of pork. That is such a tiny part of all that is there. Most of the recipes etc come from Nourishing Traditions which is what prompted me to buy it. I figure each to their own and you cannot believe all you read but there has been worse advise about nutrition given out to people. This book is very much in favor, for all that haven't read it, of farming as we are all trying to do. There is even an advertising section to find products etc from people that grow things healthy. Debbie ChikouskyManitoba, Canadagdchik@...http://www.winnipegbeach.com/chikouskyfarms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hi Deb, I do know that many of the wild sows would eat their babies if they were defective in some way. even half wild ones would still do this. There was a wild boar at the sales barn last week who we had to separate form the other pigs as he was trying to bite them and he meant business not just get out of my way type biting.. mean bugger and he was eating the wooden stall bars when we moved him. Modern day sows are not as accustomed to such barbaric ways, it has almost been bred out of them I believe. In my 20 years I haven't ever had this happen here at our farm although I have seen one of my sows grab a baby chicken and eat it! I haven't heard of any farmers that I know of other than some real old timers even talk about the sows eating their own. A boar will if he feels threatened and is near the piglets I have heard talk of as well. The article that man wrote talked well of what parts of the animals are possible to use but with modern farming it is now more unusual at least here in Ontario that you would even get back a pigs liver and I have never gotten back a pancreas although I do use our own intestines for sausage casings. there was good and bad in that article but I do not believe pigs are any different from any breed alive when it comes be eating their meats. It is all in how you raise it, what you feed it and how you house it.. Same for every animal alive. Modern days pigs in factory farms do not eat their babies as there is absolutely no need, there is constant food in front of them, so no hunger there just gluttony and ready available medicated foods..ohh yummm!!!! As we have all said to each his /her own on what we eat and do not. I raise pigs and after many years now eat very little pork but that's more because I am tired of it<LOL> Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm http://www.hawk.igs.net/~emerald/index.html Owner VankleekHill_Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VankleekHill_Freecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I'm laughing so hard because you are so right. I do buy the baby back ribs at the market because I can't get anyone to save them for me. Everyone I know has their pork de-boned and they toss out the bones. In my opinion, all meat has a better flavor when the bone is left in. But the other pork does have an offensive smell and that's when it's fresh. Just imagine all the people from not so long ago that ate bear and even some do today. They are a porcine relative from what I've read and you really have to cook the crap out of it. Supposed to be really rank smelling, but great tasting. K.C. Re: sharing good news > K.C.: > > The farmer I get mine from gives them NO corn, and tons of dairy. I > won't eat pig that's consumed any corn products because so much corn > is GMO anymore. I never EVER eat pork from grocery stores..though it's > easy to tell when it's irradiated: it turns bright pink/red and smells > like a wet dog. > > I love shellfish too. I just had a lobster at a local restaurant the > other day, and they even kept the roe intact for me to eat..it was > absolutely delicious! > > Robin > > > >> >> I know people who raise pigs and they are not garbage collectors. I > know for a fact they are cleaner then cattle in the way they live. Now > what mass producers feed them, I can't speak to, but then all pork and > most meat in general is all irradiated for the market today. > > I have absolutely no problem with shellfish at all. Love almost all > of it. >> >> K.C. > > > > > > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hi everyone, Just to add to this discussion, I personally know a mother dog that ate one puppy every time her owner left the house for shopping. That was many years ago, but now, only few years ago I also know mother dogs eating the puppy as she is giving birth.... While dogs are not pigs, but this habit (?) of eating their own young is quite wide spread among different species of animals. Hamsters, mice and rabbits come to mind. This does not make them "dirty" animals. This is gross to us but I think it is normal for the animals. Barbara Hi Deb, I do know that many of the wild sows would eat their babies if they were defective in some way. even half wild ones would still do this. There was a wild boar at the sales barn last week who we had to separate form the other pigs as he was trying to bite them and he meant business not just get out of my way type biting.. mean bugger and he was eating the wooden stall bars when we moved him. <snip> Regards, Bev & Miskin Meadows Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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