Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 We have taken it.....but I we take a combination of many things so it is hard to isolate what effect it has. Naturgal > Re: Tyrosine > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:44:21 -0000 > > > > So nobody else has taken the amino acid L-Tyrosine for a few months to > increase dopamine? > > I'm surprised and wonder if some are waiting 2 or 3 years down the line > in case a magic pill is invented which will instantly cure PSSD? > Personally, I wouldn't take any pill again which messes with my > neurotransmitters. Also such psychiatric pills have horrible > side-effects and reach a tolerance when they stop working and then you > have to take a higher dose for it to work again resulting in worse and > stronger side-effects. I've been burnt once and its enough. > > Anyway, if anyone is interested, L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola Rosea and > high-dose fish oil ALL increase dopamine levels. This is fact backed by > studies and not theory. I'm now taking all three of these dietary > supplements and I'm confident I'll make even more significant progress > taking these three supplements together for up to 1 year. Natural > supplements have to be given time to build up in the system to be > effective and should be taken for at least 6 months or longer, > especially for PSSD, and there's no guarantee they will cure PSSD > although some PSSD sufferers have had good improvement. > > In my opinion, the SSRI drugs over time significantly reduce dopamine > levels which do not return to normal in some individuals after > discontinuation of the SSRI resulting in PSSD. > > Dopamine's role in sexual function and orgasms: > > http://biopsychiatry.com/dopamine-sex.html > <http://biopsychiatry.com/dopamine-sex.html> > > http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_in_the_brain > <http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_in_the_brain> > > > Rhodiola Rosea - a herb which increases dopamine, norepinephrine and > serotonin and causes increase in libido in some people. 250mg - 500mg, > two or three times per day (you need to experiment with doses). > > L-Tyrosine - amino acid which increases dopamine, norepinephrine and > adrenaline. 500mg or 1000mg, three times a day on an empty stomach. > > High-dose Fish Oil - 3200mg of EPA and 1600mg of DHA PER DAY of high > quality fish oil capsules in divided doses in accordance with the > " orgasmic diet " . Start on low dose and add a capsule every few days or > once a week. The bottle will state the EPA and DHA levels per capsule. > > Zinc (if you have low testosterone confirmed by blood test) - 40mg daily > for at least 6 months or longer may increase testosterone levels, > according to a study published on pubmed.com which I posted in this > forum. Won't help if testosterone levels are within normal reference > ranges (middle to high ranges). Don't take more than 40mg daily of Zinc > as it will most likely speed up the thyroid after a few months resulting > in unpleasant symptoms of over-active thyroid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for about a > > > year. > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless there is > constant > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or something > > > like > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, how much and > > > how > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/ A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food. -- See Exclusive Video: Hollywood Life's 5th Annual Style Awards http://www.hollywoodlife.net/Awards.aspx?AwardsID=style2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I am not waiting for a magic pill. L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola Rosea, and also CoQ10 and cordyceps are all on my list of supps to try. I'm currently focusing on fish oil only and plan on experimenting with different brands and dosages. I still haven't ramped it up to a high dose level - currently 1.8g daily. I'm very methodical about how I do things and want to fully assess what each supplement does as opposed to trying a bunch at a time as this stuff costs a lot of money. Eventually I plan on taking 5-6g fish oil daily, then adding in CoQ10 and the others if need be. Luther > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for about a > > > year. > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless there is > constant > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or something > > > like > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, how much and > > > how > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 hey guys (and quite possibly gals). i'm not quite sure who to address here but, as someone who saw my ONLY glimmer of hope from tyrosine, i'd like to chime in / applaud the direction of this particular thread. a few thoughts and quick questions... - i'm currently on the pfeiffer treatment center's high histamine / pylouria / zinc deficiency treatment plan. my nurse there recently stated that under-methylation rendered the patient MORE deficient in dopamine-norepineferine (sp?) than serotonin. this intrigued me, as maybe once treated, the orgasms / sensations will return closer to normal. i certainly hope it comes true :-) as for zinc, i appreciated the mention below of it's effects on testosterone production. my numbers are low and being treated as we speak. - i've always found that when masturbating more than once per day...the second one is always better, and furthermore that the first orgasm after abstaining for more than a few days is not very good. for lack of a better expression, " the pump seems to need priming. " are there any clues there with regards to proximity of orgasms? - this " orgasmic diet " thing is intriguing. i tried it for a few weeks using whole foods brand but developed severe fybromialsia. any suggestions? was the problem with the brand or the high levels? what other brands offer " pharma grade " fish oil? - i'm back on st. john's wort for the first time in nine months. tryptophan and 5-htp got me by but were just not enough. i've switched to perika and am getting a very good result. there may be something to this guaranteed hyperforin thing. i expected my sensations / orgasms to go down the tubes again but instead, they have improved slightly. not sure if this is attributable to feeling better, depression wise, or the suspected mild dopamine reuptake properties of hyperforin, amongst other neurotransmitters. does anyone know if st. john's wort is having a positive effect on my dopamine??? - allergies!!! just found out i have severe environmental allergies (age 28). whatever you do in your quest for depression cure, rule out other health conditions that may or may not be causing it. buy " depression free naturally " or skower the web and have your doctor rule everything out (ex- thyroid condition, candida, etc). thanks everybody!!!! p.s (i forgot to mention. got my orgasms / sensations back for two weeks with tyrosine 1,000mg / day then, it suddenly stopped. would like to try again but can't take tyrosine with st. john's wort.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for about a > > > > > year. > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless there is > > > constant > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or > > something > > > > > like > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, how much > > and > > > > > how > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 i should note that a lot of good, knowledgeable and very helpful people on here have had " initial " success with tyrosine but, as far as i know, it quit working for everyone or we'd still all be taking it, having great sex and this forum would shut down :-) my take on tyrosine experimentation is that it gave me hope and emphasized the importance of dopamine in PSSD. instead of taking it, phenylaline or mucuna pruiens...i now am treating my under-methylation, considering high dose fish oil again and " trying " to abstain from ssri-type medications...all for the purpose of up-regulating dopamine / curing my PSSD. there is no cure all out there yet so, we need to respect and support each other in our search for effective treatment in the meantime. > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for about a > > > > > year. > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless there is > > > constant > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or > > something > > > > > like > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, how much > > and > > > > > how > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hi csln, When I first joined this site I put out a post saying that if I went without sex for three weeks I would start to feel sexy again. I have forgotten what this is like as I normally have to get myself aroused which takes ages and often boring. Getting horny is so natural and correct, it feels like I am whole again. It's nice having feelings in my willy. Anyway, I said in that post that perhaps if I go without sex for a month but try to get aroused each day, I might build up my brain chemicals and this might heal and nourish my brain. I said about doing this every month for while to see if it could heal me. My previous theory was to do it everyday in the hope this will get me better - it hasn't. I never did try it but you have got me wondering, so I think I shall give it a go. I need to de-stress though, and I'm sure this doesn't help. PSSD is stressful. PSSD is a big hole in the centre of me, my life has no thrill to it. There's no fun anymore. If I go out dancing, or anything I do, I'm always thinking about it. Watch a film and there is often sex, I get sad. Everyone is talking about bonking. My workmates say to me, whoooah, got a girlfriend hay, all that sex, no wonder you don't work hard, etc. I laugh but I feel awful. Kavy In SSRIsex , " csln223 " wrote: > > > So the L-Tyrosine increased your dopamine levels and your PSSD improved, > but then your dopamine levels dropped again and L-Tyrosine stopped > working. I wonder if you had carried on taking L-Tyrosine for several > months if this would have caused a build up of dopamine and caused > improvement in libido again? I wonder if having regular orgasms is > depleting dopamine and not giving it a chance to increase to a greater > extent and return to normal levels? > > There are SSRI users who come off the SSRI and have no libido, but after > a few months their libido gradually returns to normal - I wonder if some > of these people are abstaining from sex/orgasms or rarely having > sex/orgasms due to low or absent libido and if this allows their > dopamine level to slowly return to normal after some months? It's > difficult to figure out because people who have had a significant > improvement or cured their PSSD usually do not post here anymore. > > I'm considering having just one orgasm per month, say for the next 6 > months, to give my dopamine levels a chance to increase and return to > normal levels whilst taking dopamine-increasing supplements like > L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola and high-dose fish oil. Also carrying on having sex > regularly every week but having an orgasm just once a month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for > about a > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless there is > > > > > constant > > > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or > > > > something > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, how > much > > > > and > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Yes, that's a taoist type approach - find your natural rhythm and go by that instead of forcing it into what you think it should be. I've managed to make some improvements just with that method. Who knows, the time it takes for you to feel sexy again might decrease to two weeks than 10 days, than one week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for > > about a > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless > there is > > > > > > constant > > > > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or > > > > > something > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, > how > > much > > > > > and > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 You two have got me hoping, perhaps my method of keeping at it was wrong. My sex drive has got worse lately so I hope it's not too late. thanks, Kavy -- In SSRIsex , " opr221 " wrote: > > Yes, that's a taoist type approach - find your natural rhythm and go > by that instead of forcing it into what you think it should be. I've > managed to make some improvements just with that method. Who knows, > the time it takes for you to feel sexy again might decrease to two > weeks than 10 days, than one week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it for > > > about a > > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless > > there is > > > > > > > constant > > > > > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted or > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, > > how > > > much > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I've been applying the method for about a year off and on. Many people mentioned a yo-yo effect. I've noticed it too. I would get to a place where I was starting to have some libido again, and naturally I wanted to take advantage of it. I'd have several orgasms over a period of a few days, maybe look at a little porn too, and boom libido would be gone. It seems like with PSSD it's very easy for us to get overstimulated, then we fall back down into burnout. I had to learn a new approach which was cultivating my libido. For example, I'd abstain for a little while and libido would increase. I'd get an erection and stimulate it mildly - the goal wasn't to reach an orgasm, just to get the juices flowing so to say - just to feel virile and healthy. It can also be done with a girlfriend in the morning for a few minutes - same thing, no goal of orgasm. So at first, I would have to withold ejaculation around 18 days for a peak in libido then eventually that number reduced to where it's more like 7-10. If I'd mess up too badly (get overstimulated), I might have to wait 15-18 days again and restart the whole process. I would also look for signs (i.e. am I getting semi hard or hard in the morning - if so I'm on the right track). Following this more moderate approach, I've been able to raise my baseline libido to something more manageable. You can also apply this to the herbs you take. Look for more gradual nourishing type herbs instead of super potent herbs (which provide a temporary boost then a crash). I'll end this by stating that this method is by no means for everyone, but it has helped me out. Also, it does take considerable discipline, as in a way it's a new lifestyle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it > for > > > > about a > > > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless > > > there is > > > > > > > > constant > > > > > > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted > or > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, > > > how > > > > much > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I really, really doubt that abstaining from orgasm is going to increase levels of dopamine in your brain. I would imagine that orgasm only depletes dopamine for a very temporary period of time, or most sexually active people would experience dysphoria on a daily basis for having all that sex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used zoloft for over a year. I have been off of it > for > > > > about a > > > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > > Symptoms are inability to keep an erection unless > > > there is > > > > > > > > constant > > > > > > > > > > > attention. Numbness in that area. Sex drive low! > > > > > > > > > > > None of these existed before taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > > My question is this..dopamine was being restricted > or > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > that when taking zoloft. > > > > > > > > > > > Will taking Tyrosine help start that back up? If so, > > > how > > > > much > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > often. Any side effects? > > > > > > > > > > > Frustrated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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