Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Woman in my breastfeeding class tonight -- having second baby soon. Came to my class during first pregnancy, but unsuccessful breastfeeding -- reports that "IBS flared up every time she was nursing and had to run to bathroom and thus could only nurse while in bathroom on toilet!." Quit early when she found this so disconcerting and when of course her GI doc told her "No bfeeding when taking any meds." Unhelpful. Incorrect. But, moot point now. So, here we are in pregnancy number two and I am stumped by this IBS connection when she reminds me that "she is also the woman with only one breast post a mastectomy 10 years ago!" So, I am determined to help this dear woman to the best of my abilities this go round with this next baby to be -- my questions to you are -- 1- What do we know about breastfeeding and any connection to IBS?2- What do we know about success of breastfeeding with one breast?Will cross post this, since I am so anxious for replies to begin sharing info and suggestions with her. Thanks so much, Ann Ann Conlon-, IBCLCTriangle Lactation Consultants1875 Carrington DriveRaleigh, NC 27615aconsmith@...www.trianglelactation.com"Breastfeeding is a connection as well as a food source, a baby’s first human relationship, designed to gentle him into the world with far more than just immune factors and good nutrition."– The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, 8th Edition, La Leche League International, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Ann, I'm not sure about the IBS flare ups while breastfeeding, except wonder how long this mom BF with first baby? Could the oxytocin release which early on causes uterine contractions have caused an intestinal response as well? IBS is inflammation so treating with diet changes, probiotics and Natural Calm magnesium might be a part of improving her overall health (much more to this and maybe a knowledgeable naturopath could help her address this now). Having one breast for breastfeeding is likely not an issue depending on the remaining breast's function. I worked with 2 moms with only one functioning breast, one cancer radiation tx, and another with very small breasts, one of which she'd had multiple biopsies and did not function normally. Both breastfed exclusively for years, though the first mom did use some donor milk initially. If mom's can breastfeed multiples, one functioning breast will do just fine. I had moms mentioned pumping extra as needed initially, watched infant's wt gain, take herbal galactagogues and offered very frequent support. Hope this helps and if you'd like to discuss more details, feel free to email me privately and I'll be glad to discuss more with you. Barbara Latterner Woman in my breastfeeding class tonight -- having second baby soon. Came to my class during first pregnancy, but unsuccessful breastfeeding -- reports that "IBS flared up every time she was nursing and had to run to bathroom and thus could only nurse while in bathroom on toilet!." Quit early when she found this so disconcerting and when of course her GI doc told her "No bfeeding when taking any meds." Unhelpful. Incorrect. But, moot point now. So, here we are in pregnancy number two and I am stumped by this IBS connection when she reminds me that "she is also the woman with only one breast post a mastectomy 10 years ago!" So, I am determined to help this dear woman to the best of my abilities this go round with this next baby to be -- my questions to you are -- 1- What do we know about breastfeeding and any connection to IBS? 2- What do we know about success of breastfeeding with one breast? Will cross post this, since I am so anxious for replies to begin sharing info and suggestions with her. Thanks so much, Ann Ann Conlon-, IBCLC Triangle Lactation Consultants 1875 Carrington Drive Raleigh, NC 27615 aconsmith@... www.trianglelactation.com "Breastfeeding is a connection as well as a food source, a baby’s first human relationship, designed to gentle him into the world with far more than just immune factors and good nutrition." – The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, 8th Edition, La Leche League International, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I KNOW absolutely nothing about the connection with breastfeeding, but as an occasional sufferer of IBS I can tell you it is like the worst contractions ever, and you have to hit the head immediately. It doesn't stop until you do. Maybe her hormones are not only contracting uterine and mammary upon MER but also bowel tissue. Could that even be????? Way back when in the 70/80s I took Librex 1/2 before each meal I think it was a muscle relaxer and that seemed to do the trick though I was a zombie. So I started noting what kind of foods made it worse and started eliminating them, mostly fatty/fried foods like eggs, buttered toast and bacon. Thank God once I had my kids it stopped happening. Maybe it is hormonal, or maybe I started eating even better. Research??? Just my thoughts rambling. I might start with a food diary if there wasn't an offending food in there the pain was not quite as intense. And I would find out if she has that any other time. Lou Moramarco IBCLC Birth, Breastfeeding & Before International Board Certified Lactation Consultant Bradley Childbirth Educator Certified Birth Doula (732) 239-7771 marylou22@... www.lunadoula.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ann Conlon- Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:24 AM To: Subject: Challenging Breastfeeding Woman in my breastfeeding class tonight -- having second baby soon. Came to my class during first pregnancy, but unsuccessful breastfeeding -- reports that " IBS flared up every time she was nursing and had to run to bathroom and thus could only nurse while in bathroom on toilet!. " Quit early when she found this so disconcerting and when of course her GI doc told her " No bfeeding when taking any meds. " Unhelpful. Incorrect. But, moot point now. So, here we are in pregnancy number two and I am stumped by this IBS connection when she reminds me that " she is also the woman with only one breast post a mastectomy 10 years ago! " So, I am determined to help this dear woman to the best of my abilities this go round with this next baby to be -- my questions to you are -- 1- What do we know about breastfeeding and any connection to IBS? 2- What do we know about success of breastfeeding with one breast? Will cross post this, since I am so anxious for replies to begin sharing info and suggestions with her. Thanks so much, Ann Ann Conlon-, IBCLC Triangle Lactation Consultants 1875 Carrington Drive Raleigh, NC 27615 aconsmith@... www.trianglelactation.com " Breastfeeding is a connection as well as a food source, a baby’s first human relationship, designed to gentle him into the world with far more than just immune factors and good nutrition. " – The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, 8th Edition, La Leche League International, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I makes total sense to me. Oxytocin causes contractions in smooth muscle all over the body. not just the breast and uterus. I always felt the need to use the bathroom when I breastfed in the early days. And if someone struggles with IBS, that's what would happen! Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comBreastfeeding Between the Lines: http://second9months.wordpress.com/--- On Thu, 9/15/11, Lou wrote:Subject: RE: Challenging BreastfeedingTo: Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 8:40 AM I KNOW absolutely nothing about the connection with breastfeeding, but as an occasional sufferer of IBS I can tell you it is like the worst contractions ever, and you have to hit the head immediately. It doesn't stop until you do. Maybe her hormones are not only contracting uterine and mammary upon MER but also bowel tissue. Could that even be????? Way back when in the 70/80s I took Librex 1/2 before each meal I think it was a muscle relaxer and that seemed to do the trick though I was a zombie. So I started noting what kind of foods made it worse and started eliminating them, mostly fatty/fried foods like eggs, buttered toast and bacon. Thank God once I had my kids it stopped happening. Maybe it is hormonal, or maybe I started eating even better. Research??? Just my thoughts rambling. I might start with a food diary if there wasn't an offending food in there the pain was not quite as intense. And I would find out if she has that any other time. Lou Moramarco IBCLC Birth, Breastfeeding & Before International Board Certified Lactation Consultant Bradley Childbirth Educator Certified Birth Doula (732) 239-7771 marylou22@... www.lunadoula.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ann Conlon- Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:24 AM To: Subject: Challenging Breastfeeding Woman in my breastfeeding class tonight -- having second baby soon. Came to my class during first pregnancy, but unsuccessful breastfeeding -- reports that "IBS flared up every time she was nursing and had to run to bathroom and thus could only nurse while in bathroom on toilet!." Quit early when she found this so disconcerting and when of course her GI doc told her "No bfeeding when taking any meds." Unhelpful. Incorrect. But, moot point now. So, here we are in pregnancy number two and I am stumped by this IBS connection when she reminds me that "she is also the woman with only one breast post a mastectomy 10 years ago!" So, I am determined to help this dear woman to the best of my abilities this go round with this next baby to be -- my questions to you are -- 1- What do we know about breastfeeding and any connection to IBS? 2- What do we know about success of breastfeeding with one breast? Will cross post this, since I am so anxious for replies to begin sharing info and suggestions with her. Thanks so much, Ann Ann Conlon-, IBCLC Triangle Lactation Consultants 1875 Carrington Drive Raleigh , NC 27615 aconsmith@... www.trianglelactation.com "Breastfeeding is a connection as well as a food source, a baby’s first human relationship, designed to gentle him into the world with far more than just immune factors and good nutrition." – The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, 8th Edition, La Leche League International, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Ladies- I feel as though I'm not even qualified to reply to this post as someone sticking a toe into the field (awaiting my results from the exam this year) But had a few tidbits to offer.In prep for the exam I had learned that breastfeeding not only increases gut metabolism in the infant but also for the mother. Increased blood flow, digestive juices, hormones etc. Cholecystokinin is one of the hormones secreted which can affect bowel motility. I will find my references and post later when back at home if interested. I can attest to the action of breastfeeding and increased bouts of GI flare-ups. I suffered through Pseudomonas Colitis (C.Diff) with my 4th child. I was a mess and my son was about 2 months old so we were nursing quite frequently. Western medicine did nothing to relieve any of my symptoms. I found through a lot of web searching this yeast Saccharomyces boulardii (which I'm told is used in the UK for diarrhea) and huge amounts of probiotics to be the reason I was able to recover. My gut took at least 2 years to recover and to this day if it seems off I begin the yeast again. For me I also had to incorporate some imagery/ deep breathing during the times of breastfeeding when cramps and peristalsis seem to be increased. I also had to return to a very bland diet. Loos I KNOW absolutely nothing about the connection with breastfeeding, but as an occasional sufferer of IBS I can tell you it is like the worst contractions ever, and you have to hit the head immediately. It doesn't stop until you do. Maybe her hormones are not only contracting uterine and mammary upon MER but also bowel tissue. Could that even be????? Way back when in the 70/80s I took Librex 1/2 before each meal I think it was a muscle relaxer and that seemed to do the trick though I was a zombie. So I started noting what kind of foods made it worse and started eliminating them, mostly fatty/fried foods like eggs, buttered toast and bacon. Thank God once I had my kids it stopped happening. Maybe it is hormonal, or maybe I started eating even better. Research??? Just my thoughts rambling. I might start with a food diary if there wasn't an offending food in there the pain was not quite as intense. And I would find out if she has that any other time. Lou Moramarco IBCLC Birth, Breastfeeding & Before International Board Certified Lactation Consultant Bradley Childbirth Educator Certified Birth Doula (732) 239-7771 marylou22@... www.lunadoula.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ann Conlon- Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:24 AM To: Subject: Challenging Breastfeeding Woman in my breastfeeding class tonight -- having second baby soon. Came to my class during first pregnancy, but unsuccessful breastfeeding -- reports that " IBS flared up every time she was nursing and had to run to bathroom and thus could only nurse while in bathroom on toilet!. " Quit early when she found this so disconcerting and when of course her GI doc told her " No bfeeding when taking any meds. " Unhelpful. Incorrect. But, moot point now. So, here we are in pregnancy number two and I am stumped by this IBS connection when she reminds me that " she is also the woman with only one breast post a mastectomy 10 years ago! " So, I am determined to help this dear woman to the best of my abilities this go round with this next baby to be -- my questions to you are -- 1- What do we know about breastfeeding and any connection to IBS? 2- What do we know about success of breastfeeding with one breast? Will cross post this, since I am so anxious for replies to begin sharing info and suggestions with her. Thanks so much, Ann Ann Conlon-, IBCLC Triangle Lactation Consultants 1875 Carrington Drive Raleigh, NC 27615 aconsmith@... www.trianglelactation.com " Breastfeeding is a connection as well as a food source, a baby’s first human relationship, designed to gentle him into the world with far more than just immune factors and good nutrition. " – The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, 8th Edition, La Leche League International, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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