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I'm not sure what you mean by that, but this groups is not a place for

prejudice. Everybody is welcome here as long as they come with a constructive

helpful attitude and don't try to make others feel bad or put others down.

I don't think one should preemptively judge someone on the basis of stereotypes,

but rather treat each person as an individual.

Vornan

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> > others. But as for myself, I would

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> > > rather

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> > > > > > > > gun to my

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> > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > woman in this broken mental and

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> > > physical

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> > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > painful and too humiliating. I would

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> > > > > it as

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> > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

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> > > mental

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> > > > > and

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> > > > > > > sexual

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> > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> >

> > > of

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> > > > > you

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> > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

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> > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > is repellant to me. What woman

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> > > would

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> > > > > even

> >

> > > > > > > want a

> >

> > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> >

> > > me

> >

> > > > > what

> >

> > > > > > > any

> >

> > > > > > > > woman would

> >

> > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > permit one to touch me like this,

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> > > UNDER

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> > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

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Please, if there is one thing that should not be allowed to be posted in this

group it is an

ignorant, racist, and bigoted comment such as this.

Such a comment, uncontested, diminishes us all.

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> > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > others. But as for myself, I would

> >

> > > rather

> >

> > > > > put a

> >

> > > > > > > > gun to my

> >

> > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > woman in this broken mental and

> >

> > > physical

> >

> > > > > > > > condition. It

> >

> > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > painful and too humiliating. I would

> >

> > > view

> >

> > > > > it as

> >

> > > > > > > an

> >

> > > > > > > > affront

> >

> > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> >

> > > mental

> >

> > > > > and

> >

> > > > > > > sexual

> >

> > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> >

> > > of

> >

> > > > > you

> >

> > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> >

> > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > is repellant to me. What woman

> >

> > > would

> >

> > > > > even

> >

> > > > > > > want a

> >

> > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> >

> > > me

> >

> > > > > what

> >

> > > > > > > any

> >

> > > > > > > > woman would

> >

> > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > permit one to touch me like this,

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> > > UNDER

> >

> > > > > ANY

> >

> > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> >

> > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > is: death before dishonor. That's

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> > > just

> >

> > > > > my

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Has Mo gone, I hope so? well done Vernon. He was problably in the

manic phase in his illness and high as a kite - which is pure denial,

there's nothing inside, just a big balloon. You have to remember

sometimes people are mad.

Kavy

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> > > > I cannot speak for others. But as for myself, I would rather

put a

> > > gun to my

> > > > head than approach a woman in this broken mental and physical

> > > condition. It

> > > > would be both too painful and too humiliating. I would view

it as

> > an

> > > affront

> > > > to my dignity. Of course, my PSSD, both in terms of mental

and

> > sexual

> > > > symptoms, is very severe, perhaps more severe than many of you

> > > here. The very idea of

> > > > sex in this condition is repellant to me. What woman would

even

> > want a

> > > > miserable cripple like me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to me

what

> > any

> > > woman would

> > > > want. I would never permit one to touch me like this, UNDER

ANY

> > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > My view of the matter is: death before dishonor. That's just

my

> > > opinion. It's

> > > > not at all advice for others.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours

in

> > just

> > > 2 easy

> > > > steps!

> > > >

> > > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121504

7751x1200957972/ aol?

> > redir=http://www.freecred itreport. com/pm/default. aspx?

sc=668072%

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I would like to say a few things in response to some of the responses to my last two posts. To Steve Hazek: Thank you for the dignity of your response. I appreciate that my position is respected and understood by you, although you do not share it. To CamelFootball: Firstly, while I used to be devout, I am now an agnostic. I consult philosophy, reason, science, and experience. I do not consult the unproven speculations of metaphysicians, be they ancient or modern. In terms of manhood being more than what is between our legs, you are of course correct. When I spoke of manhood, I was referring to manhood vis-a-vis women. I will fight the good the fight, like a real man should, but I will not approach a woman unless i recover. that is my position. As far as the issue of this Mo character, I sure hope that my comments on manhood were not at all a catalyst for that obscene and degenerate rant. If there is a God, then the PSSD of this creature is surely just punishment.

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Folks -

Mo is a clown, obviously. However, I did make an appointment with a

very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully. What I don't know, is

how many (if any) of these men had PSSD, or if they had just come off

the drug.

This guy is legit. He actually creates herbal formulas for Golden

Flower Chinese Herbs. And he accepts insurance, surprisingly.

I hope he can help. I will be honest with everyone here as to how it

goes and I will share everything I know - what herbs I take, etc.

For what it's worth, I think Mo was lying about his exploits -

creating a false persona to make himself feel better. He may have had

a setback.

My appointment is in 10 days.

Luther

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I cannot speak for others. But as for myself, I would

rather

> > put a

> > > > > gun to my

> > > > > > head than approach a woman in this broken mental and

physical

> > > > > condition. It

> > > > > > would be both too painful and too humiliating. I would

view

> > it as

> > > > an

> > > > > affront

> > > > > > to my dignity. Of course, my PSSD, both in terms of mental

> > and

> > > > sexual

> > > > > > symptoms, is very severe, perhaps more severe than many

of you

> > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > > > > sex in this condition is repellant to me. What woman would

> > even

> > > > want a

> > > > > > miserable cripple like me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to me

> > what

> > > > any

> > > > > woman would

> > > > > > want. I would never permit one to touch me like this,

UNDER

> > ANY

> > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > > > My view of the matter is: death before dishonor. That's

just

> > my

> > > > > opinion. It's

> > > > > > not at all advice for others.

> > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

yours

> > in

> > > > just

> > > > > 2 easy

> > > > > > steps!

> > > > > >

> > > > > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121504

> > 7751x1200957972/ aol?

> > > > redir=http://www.freecred itreport. com/pm/default. aspx?

> > sc=668072%

> > > > 26hmpgID=62% 26bcd=De

> > > > > > cemailfooterNO62)

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I've had no such negative experiences with Muslims. But even if I

had I think it's a dangerous and slippery slope to stigmatize a whole

group of people because of it. Racism and, indeed, religion are out

of place in this forum.

Vornan

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > >

> > > > rather

> > >

> > > > > > put a

> > >

> > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > woman in this broken mental and

> > >

> > > > physical

> > >

> > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > >

> > > > view

> > >

> > > > > > it as

> > >

> > > > > > > > an

> > >

> > > > > > > > > affront

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > >

> > > > mental

> > >

> > > > > > and

> > >

> > > > > > > > sexual

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > >

> > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > you

> > >

> > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > >

> > > > would

> > >

> > > > > > even

> > >

> > > > > > > > want a

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > >

> > > > me

> > >

> > > > > > what

> > >

> > > > > > > > any

> > >

> > > > > > > > > woman would

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > >

> > > > UNDER

> > >

> > > > > > ANY

> > >

> > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > >

> > > > just

> > >

> > > > > > my

> > >

> > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > not at all advice for

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> > >

> > > > > > in

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Hey Luther, good luck with this and give it a little time. When I was

on a tcm formula to help with sleep it took several weeks for the full

effect.

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> Folks -

>

> Mo is a clown, obviously. However, I did make an appointment with a

> very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully. What I don't know, is

> how many (if any) of these men had PSSD, or if they had just come off

> the drug.

>

> This guy is legit. He actually creates herbal formulas for Golden

> Flower Chinese Herbs. And he accepts insurance, surprisingly.

>

> I hope he can help. I will be honest with everyone here as to how it

> goes and I will share everything I know - what herbs I take, etc.

>

> For what it's worth, I think Mo was lying about his exploits -

> creating a false persona to make himself feel better. He may have had

> a setback.

>

> My appointment is in 10 days.

>

>

> Luther

>

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Don't tell me to " drop it " , Cameltoe. Racism is not welcome in this

forum. Also, I don't need anybody to " stick up for me " - I can

handle myself just fine.

Vornan

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > >

> > > > > rather

> > > >

> > > > > > > put a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > >

> > > > > physical

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > >

> > > > > view

> > > >

> > > > > > > it as

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > >

> > > > > mental

> > > >

> > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > >

> > > > > of

> > > >

> > > > > > > you

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > >

> > > > > would

> > > >

> > > > > > > even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > want a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > >

> > > > > me

> > > >

> > > > > > > what

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > any

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > >

> > > > > UNDER

> > > >

> > > > > > > ANY

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > > >

> > > > > just

> > > >

> > > > > > > my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

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Cameltoe, you are the pussy behaving like a little girl. I've been

moderating this group for years now - and half of the publications on

PSSD were done by me. There would be zero public awareness of PSSD

if it weren't for me. So get of my fucking back and let me do my

think. I'm tired of all this Bullshit. Racism will NOT be tolerated

in this forum. END OF STORY.

Vornan

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > > >

> > > > > > rather

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > put a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > > >

> > > > > > physical

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > > >

> > > > > > view

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > it as

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > > >

> > > > > > mental

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > > >

> > > > > > of

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > you

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > > >

> > > > > > would

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > even

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > want a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > > >

> > > > > > me

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > > >

> > > > > > UNDER

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > ANY

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

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Brag? No, just stating the facts so you know. Talk about being

immature: you obviously have no concept of the idea of appreciation

of gratitude for the enormous amount of work I've put into this.

What are you trying to prove telling me what to do and how to run

things? Like I said, piss off and leave me be, or you'll be the next

one booted out. I really don't have time for this nonsense.

Vornan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > rather

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > put a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > physical

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > view

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it as

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > mental

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > want a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > UNDER

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ANY

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > > > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all advice for

> > > > > > others.

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> > > > > > Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

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> > > > > > > yours

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > just

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> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > (http://pr.atwola.

> > > > > > com/promoclk/ 100000075x121504 7751x1200957972/ aol?

> > > > > >

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Dude, how old are you? Like, seven? Quit wasting my time and making

a fool of yourself.

Vornan

-- In SSRIsex , camelfootball36@... wrote:

>

> Maybe concentrate on informing the public on PSSD instead of

informing me how great you are. You will have better luck... I'd put

money on it

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> Re: PSSD Dating

>

>

> Cameltoe, you are the pussy behaving like a little girl. I've been

> moderating this group for years now - and half of the publications

on

> PSSD were done by me. There would be zero public awareness of PSSD

> if it weren't for me. So get of my fucking back and let me do my

> think. I'm tired of all this Bullshit. Racism will NOT be

tolerated

> in this forum. END OF STORY.

>

> Vornan

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > rather

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > put a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > physical

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > view

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it as

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > mental

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > want a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > UNDER

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ANY

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > > > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all advice for

> > > > > > others.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ **A Good

> > > > > > Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > yours

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2 easy

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Eh? You alreay picked a fight with me and disrespected me. I'm not

sensitive, you just have no right to tell me how to run this forum or

what is or is not allowed on here.

Vornan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > put a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > physical

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > view

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it as

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > want a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > UNDER

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ANY

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > > > > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all advice for

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > in

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If you want to talk about TCM, please start a new TCM thread.

I want to keep this thread about PSSD Dating.

Thank you.

> >

> > Folks -

> >

> > Mo is a clown, obviously. However, I did make an appointment with a

> > very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> > dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> > who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully. What I don't know, is

> > how many (if any) of these men had PSSD, or if they had just come off

> > the drug.

> >

> > This guy is legit. He actually creates herbal formulas for Golden

> > Flower Chinese Herbs. And he accepts insurance, surprisingly.

> >

> > I hope he can help. I will be honest with everyone here as to how it

> > goes and I will share everything I know - what herbs I take, etc.

> >

> > For what it's worth, I think Mo was lying about his exploits -

> > creating a false persona to make himself feel better. He may have had

> > a setback.

> >

> > My appointment is in 10 days.

> >

> >

> > Luther

> >

> >

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I will not be accepting any more posts about what is allowed in

threads, in the forum, and so forth. I will not correspond about

this further and such posts will simply be deleted.

Vornan

> > >

> > > Folks -

> > >

> > > Mo is a clown, obviously. However, I did make an appointment

with a

> > > very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> > > dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many

men

> > > who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully. What I don't know,

is

> > > how many (if any) of these men had PSSD, or if they had just

come off

> > > the drug.

> > >

> > > This guy is legit. He actually creates herbal formulas for

Golden

> > > Flower Chinese Herbs. And he accepts insurance, surprisingly.

> > >

> > > I hope he can help. I will be honest with everyone here as to

how it

> > > goes and I will share everything I know - what herbs I take,

etc.

> > >

> > > For what it's worth, I think Mo was lying about his exploits -

> > > creating a false persona to make himself feel better. He may

have had

> > > a setback.

> > >

> > > My appointment is in 10 days.

> > >

> > >

> > > Luther

> > >

> > >

> >

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There's loads of Christians (people) like Mo. And God never did

anything for me. When I was on the antidepressant I prayed for him to

help me and I went cycling everynight to build up my brain cells. I

then ended up with PSSD. Thanks God! I was in an evangelical

Christian church at the time but I discovered that they were barking

mad and that ended my faith in God.

Kavy

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> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I cannot speak for

> > > > others. But as for myself, I would

> > > >

> > > > > rather

> > > >

> > > > > > > put a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > gun to my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > head than approach a

> > > > woman in this broken mental and

> > > >

> > > > > physical

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > condition. It

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > would be both too

> > > > painful and too humiliating. I would

> > > >

> > > > > view

> > > >

> > > > > > > it as

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> > > > > > > > > an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > affront

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > to my dignity. Of

> > > > course, my PSSD, both in terms of

> > > >

> > > > > mental

> > > >

> > > > > > > and

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > sexual

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > symptoms, is very

> > > > severe, perhaps more severe than many

> > > >

> > > > > of

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> > > > > > > you

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> > > > > > > > > > here. The very idea of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sex in this condition

> > > > is repellant to me. What woman

> > > >

> > > > > would

> > > >

> > > > > > > even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > want a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > miserable cripple like

> > > > me? Indeed, it is irrelevant to

> > > >

> > > > > me

> > > >

> > > > > > > what

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > any

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > woman would

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > want. I would never

> > > > permit one to touch me like this,

> > > >

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> > > > > > > ANY

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > CIRCUMSTANCES!

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> > > > > > > > > > > My view of the matter

> > > > is: death before dishonor. That's

> > > >

> > > > > just

> > > >

> > > > > > > my

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > opinion. It's

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Sounds interesting. Would you please share his name and address with

us? And could you pleas ask him for relevant web-links?

However, I did make an appointment with a

> very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully.

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Nope. I do not want him getting bombarded with e-mails and phone calls

like that UK doc. Right now, I will only share with Vornan if he

requests.

As I said earlier, I will share any useful information with the group.

If it turns out he helps me, then I will provide his info to everyone.

But there's no need to get excited. Who knows if Mo was really helped

by TCM or if he made the whole thing up. That's what I intend to find

out in the next few weeks.

Luther

>

> However, I did make an appointment with a

> > very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> > dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> > who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully.

>

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Luther, I understand that you prefer to protect the privacy of your

therapist. And I appreciate your willingnes to share information if it

will appear relevant.

I also am open to the possibility that Mo was indeed fully or partly

cured by dr. Lin from PSSD, despite his recent remarkable personal

disclosures.

I think in general that we should be cautious not to jump into

conclusions in any direction without thorough investigation. That's

just my humble opinion and I realize that there is a possiblity that

false claims are made about in an anonymous news group.

But the members of this support group live in different countries with

very different cultural styles. That might cause misinterpretation of

each others intention, generally spoken.

> >

> > However, I did make an appointment with a

> > > very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> > > dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> > > who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully.

> >

>

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Cool, give it a good month or two and evaluate.

> >

> > However, I did make an appointment with a

> > > very well known TCM doc. He actually specializes in male sexual

> > > dysfunction. I e-mailed him, and he stated he has treated many men

> > > who have been damaged by SSRIs successfully.

> >

>

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Your findings are important. Please tell us more about it.

> i know i preach this method on this forum too much, but it truly

does work. Sometimes i watch porn and will awaken the THOUGHT of sex

first. Then i shut off the porn and force my brain to take over and

fantasize for itself when i masturbate. An unlikely sex scenario

usually works, like having sex with a friend or co-worker you find

somewhat attractive but would never actually carry out sex with. OR

better yet, someone whom you know is attracted to you that you wouldnt

have sex with. Thinking about YOURSELF as a sexual attractor has even

better results with me--like i am sexy again when i actually feel

anything but.

> sorry to carry on so long....

> lisa

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I think your disclosures are very helpful and inspiring. I admire your

creativity and self insight.

Sexual tension and being in love seems to help your orgasms. You can

possibly find such sexual tension in anonymous webcam-chatrooms on the

internet. But your current boyfriend should of course know about that

and agree, if you don't want to risk loosing him.

---------------------------------------

I have been " getting by " doing this, i hope its NOT permanently going

to be this way--but it has been for quite awhile--several

years-actually since i first got the PSSD, which i mistook for sexual

uninterest in my (ex)husband at the time (4 or 5 years ago). It went

away and i could orgasm without fantasy for most of the first year or

so of my current relationship. Unfortunately, it didnt last past the

dopamine rush of a new relationship....leading me to believe some part

of PSSD has to do with downregulation of dopamine.

> sorry to be a windbag--

> hope this helps anyone.

> lisa

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