Re: p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro

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My hubby is sometimes this way to.I try to suggest or ask very nicely and gently and the intensity of his anger toward me has frightened me.

p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive

about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, he

became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we

were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

him very, very angry.

Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior.

I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable reactions.

At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason

is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a

lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG

NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel

incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is

my imagination, sadly.

What should my move be if anything?

Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

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Is he still on the drugs or did he just get off of them? Wellbutrin has many possible side effects and I believe if you can make it without them do. My pssd came on over night, not kidding. I was really stressed when this happend and I was very defensive about it tooSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "mujisoto" Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000To: <SSRIsex >Subject: p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, he became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made him very, very angry. Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior. I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable reactions. At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is my imagination, sadly. What should my move be if anything? Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

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Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in fear to spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good.

p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive

about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, he

became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we

were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

him very, very angry.

Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior.

I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable reactions.

At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason

is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a

lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG

NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel

incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is

my imagination, sadly.

What should my move be if anything?

Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

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He is still on them, and very adamant about remaining so. His

doctor... who knows... will up the dose (GOD FORBID) or lower it.. or

suggest Wellbutrin which I'm real, real familiar with. (That combo

made me a crazy, fast-talkin' whiskey swiggin' sex maniac prone to

violent outrage... NO WAY TO LIVE. I GOT OFF ALL MEDS, ASAP.)

I'm afraid of the unpredictable side effects such experimentation wil

have on him. Also, he's recently been taking Xanax... which I suspect

is wreaking havoc as well... creating apathy and coldness followed by

the defensiveness you spoke of in your case.

Why the defense though? Is rational thought not possible when so much

trouble is caused by (a drug?) My first response to libido loss within

my self was a definite, HELL TO THE NO, I'd sooner die than forfeit

vital energy. Especially if my mate were so affected by it...

Camel, thanks so much for responding. I appreciate this very much.

>

> Is he still on the drugs or did he just get off of them? Wellbutrin

has many possible side effects and I believe if you can make it

without them do. My pssd came on over night, not kidding. I was really

stressed when this happend and I was very defensive about it too

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>

> p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro

>

>

> Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

> sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive

> about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, he

> became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we

> were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

> him very, very angry.

>

> Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior.

> I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

> even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable reactions.

>

> At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason

> is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a

> lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG

> NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel

> incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is

> my imagination, sadly.

>

> What should my move be if anything?

>

> Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

>

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Agreed naturalgal... Nothing excuses that sort of language and

behavior. I'm torn over the idea of making through this, and having to

experience possibly worse effects from whatever the doctor prescribes

on top of it. Is this just the beginning of trouble? My issue with

meds is that they need to be stopgaps- bandaids- until one can

establish better coping skills, and then they need to be quit. I'm not

sure he sees it that way and I haven't seen signs of his trying to

gain actualy new coping skills to replace his previous

depression/social anxiety.

What I fear is not so much him or violence, but the abandonment his

behavior creates for me. And the hurt of his words in a huff. Being

left is a real sore spot with me (Hello.. who really jumps for joy

being hastily abandoned? But I've had my fill with childhood trauma

and do not welcome the cycle repeating)

I fear crazymaking, dysfunction, and rules suddenly changing, and

nonproductive conflict.

But you're right, being in fear is not good. So how do/did you deal

with your husband's rage? Were you afraid of the unstable moods?

Thank you...

>

> Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in fear to

> spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal

> relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good.

>

> p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido,

> lexapro

> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

>

> Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

> sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive

> about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact,

> he

> became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we

> were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

> him very, very angry.

>

> Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior.

> I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

> even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable

> reactions.

>

> At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason

> is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a

> lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG

> NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel

> incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is

> my imagination, sadly.

>

> What should my move be if anything?

>

> Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

>

>

>

>

>

> http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food.

>

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Well, I put up with it for 6 years, but two months ago I moved out. We are still married, but I became fearful that he would hurt me.He has treated me nice ever since. We met every day, sometimes for lunch of supper or to walk the dog or go to church, etc. And he has started anger management courses.But he isn't really interested in doing anything for the sexual aspect of it.We kiss good night...but he hasn't shown much interest in anything more.Nothing I could say or do...and believe me....I tried everything, even ignoring the situation...but I never knew what little thing would set him off. Once I cuddled up to him and said something sexy and he reacted very violently and I decided I could not live my life walking on egg shells. Naturalgal

p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido,

> lexapro

> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

>

> Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

> sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive

> about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact,

> he

> became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we

> were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

> him very, very angry.

>

> Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior.

> I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

> even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable

> reactions.

>

> At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason

> is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a

> lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG

> NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel

> incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is

> my imagination, sadly.

>

> What should my move be if anything?

>

> Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

>

>

>

>

>

> http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food.

>

> --

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I was the same way when I was on them. I thought I needed them and was hell bent on taking them. My sex problems and emotional coldness didn't come till after quiting the drug. I wish I could talk to him. This exact drug ruined my life. I will give you my email or my number if you think he would call or email me. Lexapro may potentially permanently damage him. I had everything I could ever want I was a division 1 college football player with beautiful college girls all over I had great friends a nice truck and motorcycle I had it made. I got on this drug cause the stress from school and football was getting to me. Next thing I know I'm 21 years old and I'm physically and mentally screwed. Everything fell apart. I just wish I could talk to himSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "mujisoto" Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:16:09 -0000To: <SSRIsex >Subject: Re: p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro He is still on them, and very adamant about remaining so. His doctor... who knows... will up the dose (GOD FORBID) or lower it.. or suggest Wellbutrin which I'm real, real familiar with. (That combo made me a crazy, fast-talkin' whiskey swiggin' sex maniac prone to violent outrage... NO WAY TO LIVE. I GOT OFF ALL MEDS, ASAP.) I'm afraid of the unpredictable side effects such experimentation wil have on him. Also, he's recently been taking Xanax... which I suspect is wreaking havoc as well... creating apathy and coldness followed by the defensiveness you spoke of in your case. Why the defense though? Is rational thought not possible when so much trouble is caused by (a drug?) My first response to libido loss within my self was a definite, HELL TO THE NO, I'd sooner die than forfeit vital energy. Especially if my mate were so affected by it... Camel, thanks so much for responding. I appreciate this very much. > > Is he still on the drugs or did he just get off of them? Wellbutrin has many possible side effects and I believe if you can make it without them do. My pssd came on over night, not kidding. I was really stressed when this happend and I was very defensive about it too > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro > > > Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly > sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became abusive > about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing > occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, he > became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days we > were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my > ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made > him very, very angry. > > Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this behavior. > I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing > even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable reactions. > > At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the reason > is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had a > lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG NAG > NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him feel > incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today is > my imagination, sadly. > > What should my move be if anything? > > Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance. >

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Wow... I guess your reply just named a new fear of mine: it being a

futile argument and one I will have no choice but to leave as long as

Lexapro is his preferred relationship.

Over Christmas... his mother fell in love with me, saying " You are so

good for him! And He's so in love with you... " which just makes all of

this even more devastating. We had such a nice holiday, our friends in

awe of how we are together, and then the towers crashed down.

So scared right now that I'm arguing with someone not in control of

their faculties, but convinced it's their saving grace.

I'm sorry for your pain natural gal... truly. So sad you had to go

thru 6 years of suffering and loneliness.

> >

> > Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in fear to

> > spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal

> > relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good.

> >

> > p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido,

> > lexapro

> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

> >

> > Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly

> > sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became

> abusive

> > about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> > occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact,

> > he

> > became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days

> we

> > were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> > ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made

> > him very, very angry.

> >

> > Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this

> behavior.

> > I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing

> > even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable

> > reactions.

> >

> > At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the

> reason

> > is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had

> a

> > lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG

> NAG

> > NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him

> feel

> > incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today

> is

> > my imagination, sadly.

> >

> > What should my move be if anything?

> >

> > Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> > A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food.

> >

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>

>

>

>

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Do you have his moms number? You could call her and tell her your worried about him Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "mujisoto" Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:52:04 -0000To: <SSRIsex >Subject: Re: p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, lexapro Wow... I guess your reply just named a new fear of mine: it being a futile argument and one I will have no choice but to leave as long as Lexapro is his preferred relationship. Over Christmas... his mother fell in love with me, saying " You are so good for him! And He's so in love with you... " which just makes all of this even more devastating. We had such a nice holiday, our friends in awe of how we are together, and then the towers crashed down. So scared right now that I'm arguing with someone not in control of their faculties, but convinced it's their saving grace. I'm sorry for your pain natural gal... truly. So sad you had to go thru 6 years of suffering and loneliness. > > > > Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in fear to > > spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal > > relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good. > > > > p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido, > > lexapro > > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000 > > > > Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not highly > > sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became > abusive > > about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing > > occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in fact, > > he > > became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days > we > > were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my > > ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which made > > him very, very angry. > > > > Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this > behavior. > > I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin, fearing > > even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable > > reactions. > > > > At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the > reason > > is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble... we had > a > > lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG > NAG > > NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him > feel > > incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today > is > > my imagination, sadly. > > > > What should my move be if anything? > > > > Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/ > > A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food. > > > > -- > > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > > > > > > > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/ > A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy food. > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com >

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I don't have the number... and I feel like that would be weird

somehow? Though She said something to me over Christmas to the effect

of " He's always been so nervous and anxious and I never understood

it... he needs to get over it and realize how amazing he is... " Her

attitude was a typical (loving) mother but basically " p-shaw! toughen

up... "

She herself is on a number of meds for physical problems, pain meds, a

morphine patch... so I feel she may not have the best command of the

situation. I'd feel manipulative calling, it could be construed as me

just trying to get my guy back and I fear additional drama.

I just fear a lot right now- can't process any of this. Thank you for

the suggestion, I will consider getting touch with them but right

now... I need to see if there is any us left to work with if that

makes sense. I don't want to appear to be some jilted meddling ex.

Ouch...

> > >

> > > Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in

fear to

> > > spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal

> > > relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good.

> > >

> > > p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido,

> > > lexapro

> > > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

> > >

> > > Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not

highly

> > > sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became

> > abusive

> > > about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> > > occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in

fact,

> > > he

> > > became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days

> > we

> > > were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> > > ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which

made

> > > him very, very angry.

> > >

> > > Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this

> > behavior.

> > > I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin,

fearing

> > > even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable

> > > reactions.

> > >

> > > At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the

> > reason

> > > is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble...

we had

> > a

> > > lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG

> > NAG

> > > NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him

> > feel

> > > incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today

> > is

> > > my imagination, sadly.

> > >

> > > What should my move be if anything?

> > >

> > > Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> > > A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy

food.

> > >

> > > --

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I do have parent's emails. Would it be inappropriate to contact the

this way? The genesis of our trouble being such a sensitive topic

(libido, with his parents... ahem) I wouldn't even know how to

approach it. Advice?

> > >

> > > Nothing excuses that kind of behavior. Should never live in

fear to

> > > spontaneously say something that you would say in any normal

> > > relationship. If you have become fearful...this is NOT good.

> > >

> > > p.s. Boyfriend showing abrupt loss of libido,

> > > lexapro

> > > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:42:32 -0000

> > >

> > > Sex has never once been an area of conflict for us, I am not

highly

> > > sexual, this just came on suddenly and immediately, he became

> > abusive

> > > about advances I made which were never rejected before. Nothing

> > > occurred in our relationship to indicate loss of interest, in

fact,

> > > he

> > > became more helpful and involved in other ways and for a few days

> > we

> > > were quite tender and sweet after it was exposed. In spite of my

> > > ovulating... but that alone caused me to (nicely) ask... which

made

> > > him very, very angry.

> > >

> > > Communication is at a standstill and I'm frightened by this

> > behavior.

> > > I'm frightened of the common anecdote of adding Wellbutrin,

fearing

> > > even more anxiety and extreme lashing out and unpredictable

> > > reactions.

> > >

> > > At this point, I suppose he has left the relationship and the

> > reason

> > > is unknown to me. He's not cheating, there wasn't trouble...

we had

> > a

> > > lovely thing and, BAM. If I say 'Hello, I miss you' he hears NAG

> > NAG

> > > NAG... his emotional loss of control as well as libido, make him

> > feel

> > > incredibly powerless I am imagining. And all I have to go on today

> > is

> > > my imagination, sadly.

> > >

> > > What should my move be if anything?

> > >

> > > Thank you all in advance for your compassionate guidance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> > > A journey away from medication through sane eating of healthy

food.

> > >

> > > --

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

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> >

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