Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thanks, Chris. That's great news. I have a couple of questions: What is the brand of EPA/DHA you are taking? How long have you had PSSD? What do you mean by " eyes staring at everything " ? Was it like a zoned out, kind of spaced out feeling you had? Thanks, and congratulations on your recovery. Vornan > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hi Vornan,Thanks,"eyes staring at everything" was with regards to everything felt the same, which was horrible,I could not connect anything, and I would look at basically everything in a room just to try and get a response,and it always felt like I was staring rather than contemplating, its hard to describe, but im sure others have had this, my eyes used to stare so much.They say eyes are a part of the sole, well if you look at any pictures of me, in the past year they have been wide and blank. I couldnt basically think.Rather than zoned out, it was like i wasnt even here i was aware of things happening all over the place every single movement within my eyesight.The type of fish oil I am on was recommended by one of the lassies at the health shop.Its called eskimo-3 (http://www.eskimo3.co.uk/Default.aspx?tabid=71 & ProductID=275)And the mood balancers was the ones from higher nature.I was diagnosed with pssd two weeks into my treatment of citalopram.I have been off the Antidepressents(was on them for 6 months) about 6 months now, and have felt some sense of normality returning bit by bit. My opinion of pssd is that it realtes to not just sex but emotions, motor control sleep and alot of other things that these have messed up.Hope that helps,JTo: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, 5 March, 2009 21:27:16Subject: Re: Amazing recovery Thanks, Chris. That's great news. I have a couple of questions: What is the brand of EPA/DHA you are taking? How long have you had PSSD? What do you mean by "eyes staring at everything"? Was it like a zoned out, kind of spaced out feeling you had? Thanks, and congratulations on your recovery. Vornan > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Im guessing you are from the UK. How did you get the trytophan? I was under the impression you can only get it via prescriptionThis higher nature product....do you have the name and the ingredients? Hi Vornan,Thanks, " eyes staring at everything " was with regards to everything felt the same, which was horrible, I could not connect anything, and I would look at basically everything in a room just to try and get a response,and it always felt like I was staring rather than contemplating, its hard to describe, but im sure others have had this, my eyes used to stare so much.They say eyes are a part of the sole, well if you look at any pictures of me, in the past year they have been wide and blank. I couldnt basically think. Rather than zoned out, it was like i wasnt even here i was aware of things happening all over the place every single movement within my eyesight.The type of fish oil I am on was recommended by one of the lassies at the health shop. Its called eskimo-3 (http://www.eskimo3.co.uk/Default.aspx?tabid=71 & ProductID=275) And the mood balancers was the ones from higher nature.I was diagnosed with pssd two weeks into my treatment of citalopram.I have been off the Antidepressents(was on them for 6 months) about 6 months now, and have felt some sense of normality returning bit by bit. My opinion of pssd is that it realtes to not just sex but emotions, motor control sleep and alot of other things that these have messed up. Hope that helps,J To: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, 5 March, 2009 21:27:16 Subject: Re: Amazing recovery Thanks, Chris. That's great news. I have a couple of questions: What is the brand of EPA/DHA you are taking? How long have you had PSSD? What do you mean by " eyes staring at everything " ? Was it like a zoned out, kind of spaced out feeling you had? Thanks, and congratulations on your recovery. Vornan > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009  J, I am so happy for you, I take EPA/DHA daily . I stopped Cymbalta one month ago. I can relate to everything you are saying except that sex has not returned. I am having erotic dreams. What SSRI did you take and for how long? I assume you are a male. Does it matter? How much EPA/DHA are you taking daily? What is the ratio? it is my understanding that increasing the DHA will help rid off potential Depression well as nerve pain. It is wonderful updates like this that so many of us are encouraged to hear and keep on fighting to get our lives back. I spent many years on Prozac which was the drug that kicked my naïve butt. But I will return as strong as ever. I feel better already! Not horney but in anticipation of intense mind blowing orgasms in my near future. I could not have even written this while on Cymbalta, what a nasty drug it is. It kept me in a state of uncertainty and paranoia I had never felt before and I too had numb emotions concerning things that should have had me up and responding. FYI the Cymbalta was prescribed to alleviate the intense nerve pain associated with Fibromyalgia. Judy Amazing recovery WOW, I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, and have been horny a lot of the time. My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate and feel myself coming back, So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hey that's great! I hope you continue to improve with your current regime. Two quick questions: 1.)I'd be really interested to know what your dosage of the omega 3 fatty acids is. It seems that many only reap benefits if they dose them considerably higher than generally recommended. 2.)About tryptophan: Are you experiencing any side-effects? I took 5-htp for about three months. Eventually, I stopped because of heart burn that never totally went away. (Also, I didn't notice any improvement regarding sleep or mood.) Best teephos > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I can't handle 5HTP either. Although it is the precurser to serotonin it also boosts dopamine and noradrenaline which are stimulants. Tryptophan apparently only boosts serotonin so might be better for some of us. EPA is not so good at ending a depression but can stop them from starting in the first place. If you can knock a depression out and bring about peace of mind the EPA should then work to rebuild the brain. According to DR Basant Puri, a leading expert on omega 3, stress destoys the EPA before it reaches the brain. I've orderd some tryptophan and shall give it a go. Kavy > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I tried taking fish oil for the past 4 days. I've been taking a spoonful of Carlson's lemon flavored fish oil with every meal and today I actually had regained all the sensitivity in my dick back. My orgasm hasn't changed too much... but the fish oil worked with sensitivity so that's great. I'm gonna keep taking it. Thanks for the tip. > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 the product chris mentioned Higher Nature Positive Outlook - Mood Balancer is not just tryptophan. chris did you take both tryptophan and this product ? because this product is combination of things. trying to target dopamine,serotonin and others possibly. here i found its contents. Two capsules typically provide: Content Vitamin B1 25mg Vitamin B3 40mg Vitamin B6 20mg Folic Acid 150mcg Vitamin B12 10mcg Vitamin B5 90mg Tyrosine 430mg Glutamine 500mg 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) 90mg TMG (Tri-methyl Glycine) 220mg officinalis > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Yep apologies for not being clearer, also if this comes out bold, for some reason my e-mail is acting up today. I got mixed up I didnt take trytophan seperatly but with the mixture below, and tbh personally I think it was the glutamine within the mixture that helped to calm down prior to the fish oil, but thats just my own opinion, would be useful for someone else to try and see if they have similar results.I took the mxture about two weeks prior to the fish oil, though it was certainly the fish oil which helped me the most.To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 4:12:42Subject: Re: Amazing recovery the product chris mentioned Higher Nature Positive Outlook - Mood Balancer is not just tryptophan. chris did you take both tryptophan and this product ? because this product is combination of things. trying to target dopamine,serotonin and others possibly. here i found its contents. Two capsules typically provide: Content Vitamin B1 25mg Vitamin B3 40mg Vitamin B6 20mg Folic Acid 150mcg Vitamin B12 10mcg Vitamin B5 90mg Tyrosine 430mg Glutamine 500mg 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) 90mg TMG (Tri-methyl Glycine) 220mg officinalis > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 It is great to hear a success story and hope that you recover fully. I also can share a success story as I posted that I used a product called Gentaplex. It claims that it is made of Ginka biloba and majorly from some type a fish oil. Anyway I have recovered about 90%. I had my first sex in 18 months and it was wonderful. Suprizingly my message did not get any attention. Just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from this wonderful group and wish all of you recover from your condition. Thanks very much Regards Subject: Amazing recoveryTo: SSRIsex Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM WOW, I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, and have been horny a lot of the time. My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate and feel myself coming back, So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hi Adil,Congratz as well too you, there does seem to be a common link, between fish oil and recovery!TBH I did not see your message as I ony check once in a while and mainly give updates on suppliments. Or jump in where I have some information on a subject. But its good to hear wat others have tried and found successful..to answer some previous questions, 1.)I'd be really interested to know what your dosage of the omega 3 fatty acids is. It seems that many only reap benefits if they dose them considerably higher than generally recommended. -- I usually take as instructed one 5ml a day sometimes two depending on if I think I need it.2.)About tryptophan: Are you experiencing any side-effects? I took 5-htp for about three months. Eventually, I stopped because of heart burn that never totally went away. (Also, I didn't notice any improvement regarding sleep or mood.) --No side effects, though the amount of stuff I have taken in my life I would probably not notice it.Had a bads sleep last night, and dont feel too hot today so Sleep is important !Best Wishes,JTo: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 10:45:21Subject: Re: Amazing recovery It is great to hear a success story and hope that you recover fully. I also can share a success story as I posted that I used a product called Gentaplex. It claims that it is made of Ginka biloba and majorly from some type a fish oil. Anyway I have recovered about 90%. I had my first sex in 18 months and it was wonderful. Suprizingly my message did not get any attention. Just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from this wonderful group and wish all of you recover from your condition. Thanks very much Regards From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk>Subject: Amazing recoveryTo: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM WOW, I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, and have been horny a lot of the time. My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate and feel myself coming back, So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Im glad some of you have had some success with EPA>Ive tried the VegEPA stuff Basant Puri recommends AND Eskimo fish oil. Neither did anything noticeable for me. Same with the 5-HTPMy guess is that people who are benefiting from these supplements....it is because their sexual dysfunction is mostly due to depression rather than PSSD. The main way I can see these supplements working is by lifting depression and therefore increasing libido....after all low libido is a big symptom of depression Hi Adil,Congratz as well too you, there does seem to be a common link, between fish oil and recovery!TBH I did not see your message as I ony check once in a while and mainly give updates on suppliments. Or jump in where I have some information on a subject. But its good to hear wat others have tried and found successful.. to answer some previous questions, 1.)I'd be really interested to know what your dosage of the omega 3 fatty acids is. It seems that many only reap benefits if they dose them considerably higher than generally recommended. -- I usually take as instructed one 5ml a day sometimes two depending on if I think I need it. 2.)About tryptophan: Are you experiencing any side-effects? I took 5-htp for about three months. Eventually, I stopped because of heart burn that never totally went away. (Also, I didn't notice any improvement regarding sleep or mood.) --No side effects, though the amount of stuff I have taken in my life I would probably not notice it.Had a bads sleep last night, and dont feel too hot today so Sleep is important ! Best Wishes, J To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 10:45:21Subject: Re: Amazing recovery It is great to hear a success story and hope that you recover fully. I also can share a success story as I posted that I used a product called Gentaplex. It claims that it is made of Ginka biloba and majorly from some type a fish oil. Anyway I have recovered about 90%. I had my first sex in 18 months and it was wonderful. Suprizingly my message did not get any attention. Just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from this wonderful group and wish all of you recover from your condition. Thanks very much Regards From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk>Subject: Amazing recoveryTo: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM WOW, I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, and have been horny a lot of the time. My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate and feel myself coming back, So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I disagree. Who knows why some supplements work for some people and don't work for others? That's basically the reason we are all here. SSRI's affected our sex drives and for others they (SSRI's) did not. Everyone's bodies are different. Therefore we can't assume that " one size fits all " for supplements and drugs or that any success must be due to lifted depression. Warren > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can > > remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I > > perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) > > helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had > > the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and > > actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff > > together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these > > beneftis, > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I know I had PSSD because it happened two weeks into my antidepressents,Sheer shutoff from any sort of libido, that was fine prior to starting my course.Now every brain is different, I wouldnt say that this would help everyone, though it certainly helped me, and some others to note. Plus it wasnt just the fish oil i took it was the mood balancing stuff as well, though I did not receive the benefits until after the fish oil.From: To: SSRIsex Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 2009 19:42:52Subject: Re: Amazing recovery Im glad some of you have had some success with EPA>Ive tried the VegEPA stuff Basant Puri recommends AND Eskimo fish oil. Neither did anything noticeable for me. Same with the 5-HTPMy guess is that people who are benefiting from these supplements. ...it is because their sexual dysfunction is mostly due to depression rather than PSSD. The main way I can see these supplements working is by lifting depression and therefore increasing libido....after all low libido is a big symptom of depressionOn Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:11 PM, chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Hi Adil,Congratz as well too you, there does seem to be a common link, between fish oil and recovery!TBH I did not see your message as I ony check once in a while and mainly give updates on suppliments. Or jump in where I have some information on a subject. But its good to hear wat others have tried and found successful.. to answer some previous questions, 1.)I'd be really interested to know what your dosage of the omega 3 fatty acids is. It seems that many only reap benefits if they dose them considerably higher than generally recommended. -- I usually take as instructed one 5ml a day sometimes two depending on if I think I need it. 2.)About tryptophan: Are you experiencing any side-effects? I took 5-htp for about three months. Eventually, I stopped because of heart burn that never totally went away. (Also, I didn't notice any improvement regarding sleep or mood.) --No side effects, though the amount of stuff I have taken in my life I would probably not notice it.Had a bads sleep last night, and dont feel too hot today so Sleep is important ! Best Wishes, J From: Adil AlAwadhi <adco_1999yahoo (DOT) com>To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com Sent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 10:45:21Subject: Re: Amazing recovery It is great to hear a success story and hope that you recover fully. I also can share a success story as I posted that I used a product called Gentaplex. It claims that it is made of Ginka biloba and majorly from some type a fish oil. Anyway I have recovered about 90%. I had my first sex in 18 months and it was wonderful. Suprizingly my message did not get any attention. Just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from this wonderful group and wish all of you recover from your condition. Thanks very much Regards From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk>Subject: Amazing recoveryTo: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM WOW, I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, and have been horny a lot of the time. My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate and feel myself coming back, So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 you can possibly ruled this out by stop taking mood balancer for a short time and take fish oil only. > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > Subject: Amazing recovery > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > WOW, > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I now realize that, the hell that I had been experiencing for the last month was caused in part by adding a fish oil supplement to my diet. It completely numbed the little emotions I did have, and it took away all my anxiety. I was experiencing complete anhedonia. Furthermore it completely dulled the effects of any medication or drug I took. I could drink a ridiculous amount of alcohol and it would hardly phaze me. It took me a while to figure out it was the fish oil, I finally stopped and things started returning to their status quo. I'm pretty sure it improved my cognition, erections and sex drive, but what a fucking trade off that would be. I wish it didn't do all that other shit. > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 How do you obtain Gentaplex? Is it over the counter or perscription? > > > Subject: Amazing recovery > To: SSRIsex > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > WOW, > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > and feel myself coming back, > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Hey how long did you have PSSRI before you recovered with the fish oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Did you take ultra pure EPA? Dr Stoll and Dr Basant K Puri seperartely found that DHA stops the EPA from working fully. Also, Dr Stoll say's that sometimes DHA makes depression worse. Here are some extracts from a site I found - the link is below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ While doctors often find it hard to see beyond antidepressant drugs, the latest cutting-edge research findings have revealed that an essential fatty acid naturally found in fish oils can have remarkable results in combating depression. Now, you may be thinking that fish oils as a treatment for depression is hardly ground-breaking news (Lancet 1998; 351: 1213). However, the new research shows that only one of the two main fatty acids present in fish oil is beneficial against the condition and that taking the two together could even negate these positive effects making it vital that the right one is taken. The recent research findings have shown that it is only EPA that has depression-relieving properties and DHA may actually compete with EPA for binding sites in brain cell membranes and so reduce its effectiveness (Am J Psychiatry 2003; 160(5): 996-998). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/mental-health/fish-oil-fatty-acids-beat-depression-00917.html Kavy > > > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk>> > > Subject: Amazing recovery> > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM> > > > > > > > > WOW,> > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS,> > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat,> > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but> > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny,> > > and have been horny a lot of the time.> > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate> > > and feel myself coming back,> > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself.> > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis,> > > > > > J> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Congrats thats great, how long did you have PSSRI before you recovered with the fish oil? > > > > WOW, > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 I've had it on and off since I went cold turkey off a high dose of Effexor 5 years ago. I noticed sometimes I had no feeling and sometimes it would slightly come back but then go away shortly thereafter. I think I spoke too soon about the fish oil though because as good as I felt after 4 days on it its been about a week now and I'm back to feeling numb. But I've gone back to sleeping irregularly and not exercising vigorously so that may be the reason. I found that while on fish oil if I exercised vigorously for a long time each day it would help out even more. The biggest problem I've had since going cold turkey is having an irregular sleep schedule which may contribute to the PSSRI. But anyways, I'm gonna try to get back to sleeping normal, exercising each day, and then get back on alot of fish oil each day and I'll let you guys know if the sleep and lack of exercise was the culprit. I was gonna try ginkgo too but I had read that there's not enough evidence to support it's claims so I decided not to try it. Oh yea and I found that l-dopa (velvet bean extract) helped with sexual function but I started getting rapid heartbeats so I had to stop it. Yohimbe bark extract is also amazing at restoring and intensifying sensation but it's really bad for the circulatory system unfortunately and I got heart palpitations while on that so I stopped it too... > > > > > > WOW, > > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these beneftis, > > > > > > J > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 This is a tad ridiculous. I thought I was improving, but ultimately I still feel no ups or downs, just uncomfortably numb. And my effects to drugs are still drastically dulled, it just fluctuates it seems. This happened after the fish oil.. which I was combining with 5htp. I noticed at one point I was experiencing parkinson like involuntary movements, and I thought they were due to withdrawing from flexeril. But now I think it might have been due to a serotonin overload from 5htp + fish oil ? Any idea why fish oil would do this? I've been searching the internet like a mad man and I found this guy whose symptoms are incredibly similar. http://essenceofmybrain.blogspot.com/ He was also taking both 5htp and fish oil. Also he coincidentally also started out on paxil. I am thinking the ssri's screwed something up with the way respond to other drugs. > > > > > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW, > > > > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I > can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, > everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell > it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I > have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my > emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood > balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these > beneftis, > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I think you are kinda right there, I tried Rhodiola rosea two days ago just to see if it could make my recover quicker,And I felt like I wasnt in control again. Fish oil still helping the most for me. I also visited the endo who says I have to waita year before we can say that everything is out of system, so ive been discharged, until then.Testosterone was 17nmol still within normal levels but on the lower end, I also think that the ssris messed up the test receptors in our brainbut Im just guessing with that.To: SSRIsex Sent: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 4:21:29Subject: Re: Amazing recovery I think SSRIs hypersensitize the brain to serotonin, and that might be why you had an exaggerated response to the 5HTP and fish oil. That's why other things like aerobic exercise don't work as well either. Also, personally, I don't think fish oil is necessarily a good thing for everyone. I noticed even before I ever touched an SSRI that the stuff gave me muscle fasciculations (twitches). But if I just eat oily fish like sardines I don't get that side effect. I wonder if there's something about eating the processed oil that is different to eating whole fish.. Vornan > > > > > > > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > > > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW, > > > > > > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I > > can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > > > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, > > everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > > > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell > > it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > > > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I > > have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > > > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > > > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my > > emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > > > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > > > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood > > balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > > > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these > > beneftis, > > > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 low dopamine can cause your involuntary movements. > > Subject: Re: Amazing recovery > To: SSRIsex > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 11:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a tad ridiculous. I thought I was > improving, but ultimately I still feel no ups or downs, just > uncomfortably numb. And my effects to drugs are still > drastically dulled, it just fluctuates it seems. This > happened after the fish oil.. which I was combining with > 5htp. I noticed at one point I was experiencing parkinson > like involuntary movements, and I thought they were due to > withdrawing from flexeril. But now I think it might have > been due to a serotonin overload from 5htp + fish oil ? Any > idea why fish oil would do this? I've been searching the > internet like a mad man and I found this guy whose symptoms > are incredibly similar. http://essenceofmyb > rain.blogspot. com/ > > > > He was also taking both 5htp and fish oil. Also he > coincidentally also started out on paxil. I am thinking the > ssri's screwed something up with the way respond to > other drugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ > mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > > > > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing > nights sleep ever since I > > > can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > > > > > my body always felt like it was in the > fight r flight mode, > > > everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan > (think thats how you spell > > > it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good > sleeps, but > > > > > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to > my diet, two days in and I > > > have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and > was horny, > > > > > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at > everything, i can control my > > > emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can > concentrate > > > > > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > > > > > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking > the epa/dha and mood > > > balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is > reparing itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see > if any else have had these > > > beneftis, > > > > > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 5HTP made me feel horible. It stimulates serotonin and also noradrenaline and dopamine. I started twithching again when I used it(quite mild) but I knew it was interacting with the damage that antidepressants had done to my brain. It also gave me terrible tinnitus and I couldn't think straight. I have have used pure EPA for years, and sometimes at high dosages, and have not noticed any ill effects (nor much benifit either). Kavy > > > > > > > > > > From: chris jack <jak_1982_likes_ mixingyahoo (DOT) co.uk> > > > > > Subject: Amazing recovery > > > > > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW, > > > > > > > > > > I have had the best and most refreshing nights sleep ever since I > > can remember, since I had was on the SSRIS, > > > > > my body always felt like it was in the fight r flight mode, > > everything I perceived as a threat, > > > > > > > > > > Now supplimenting myself with trytophan (think thats how you spell > > it) helped with my dream recall and was giving me good sleeps, but > > > > > since I added High strength EPA/DHA to my diet, two days in and I > > have had the most refreshing night ever. I woke up and was horny, > > > > > and have been horny a lot of the time. > > > > > > > > > > My eyes are no longer staring at everything, i can control my > > emotions and actually have a bit of empathy now, i can concentrate > > > > > and feel myself coming back, > > > > > > > > > > So i would definatly recommend taking the epa/dha and mood > > balancing stuff together as I feel like my brain is reparing itself. > > > > > > > > > > Just thought I would let use no and see if any else have had these > > beneftis, > > > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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