RE: Re: preterm labor and milk supply question

[Guest guest]

, that would be great, because it is hard to imagine since progesterone levels are still high and the placenta is still functioning.

Nothing is impossible -- as we have certainly seen in all sorts of situations in lactation, but I would imagine that while this CAN happen, it would be incredibly rare. We've all had mothers who do NOT experience lactogenesis II until that last little piece of retained placenta has been removed....

I'd love to see what said about this. Really interesting!

Jan www.grammiesawards.blogspot.com

There is a risk of stalled pre-term labor creating a lower supply later on. When mom was in labor the body may have started to go into lactII and without further expression the milk supply starts to dwindle and involution can occur before baby is really born. did speak on this and I will dig out my notes to see if any studies were referenced.

Cole

[Guest guest]

Super -- thanks for sharing that.

Jan www.grammiesawards.blogspot.com

West and Marasco address this issue in making More Milk on page 127 under placental problems.

“Progesterone may be lower during a pregnancy with placental problems. In rats, this has caused premature labor and sometimes even the start of milk production before birth. Involution then began because milk was not being removed; the milk factory literally began to tear down before it even opened for business. There have been a few cases reported of women who had preterm labor followed by engorgement and milk leakage. Once baby was born , their milk did not come in at all.â€

Thank you and for your wonderful book.

Ellen Simpson,BS, IBCLC

Tampa FL

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Shari SiladySent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:49 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: preterm labor and milk supply question

I remember talking about this and have experienced this with moms I have helped.Shari Siladypost a wonderful ILCA in sunny San Diego

There is a risk of stalled pre-term labor creating a lower supply later on. When mom was in labor the body may have started to go into lactII and without further expression the milk supply starts to dwindle and involution can occur before baby is really born. did speak on this and I will dig out my notes to see if any studies were referenced.

Cole

-- ~~~~~~~~~~ Shari Silady ~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Mothers have as powerful an influence over the welfare of future generations as all other earthly causes combined."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

I remember talking about this and have experienced this with moms I have helped.Shari Siladypost a wonderful ILCA in sunny San Diego

 

There is a risk of stalled pre-term labor creating a lower supply later on. When mom was in labor the body may have started to go into lactII and without further expression the milk supply starts to dwindle and involution can occur before baby is really born. did speak on this and I will dig out my notes to see if any studies were referenced.

  Cole

 

-- ~~~~~~~~~~ Shari Silady ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Mothers have as powerful an influence over the welfare of future generations as all other earthly causes combined. "

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

West and Marasco address this issue in

making More Milk on page 127 under placental problems.

“Progesterone may be lower during a

pregnancy with placental problems. In rats, this has caused premature labor and

sometimes even the start of milk production before birth. Involution then began

because milk was not being removed; the milk factory literally began to tear

down before it even opened for business. There have been a few cases reported

of women who had preterm labor followed by engorgement and milk leakage. Once

baby was born , their milk did not come in at all.”

Thank you and for your

wonderful book.

Ellen Simpson,BS, IBCLC

Tampa FL

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Shari Silady

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:49

PM

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preterm labor and milk supply question

I remember talking about this and have

experienced this with moms I have helped.

Shari Silady

post a wonderful ILCA in sunny San

Diego

There is a risk of stalled pre-term labor creating a lower supply later

on. When mom was in labor the body may have started to go into lactII and

without further expression the milk supply starts to dwindle and involution can

occur before baby is really born. did speak on this and I will dig out my

notes to see if any studies were referenced.

Cole

--

~~~~~~~~~~ Shari Silady ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

" Mothers have as powerful an influence over the welfare of

future generations as all other earthly causes combined. "

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

Thanks, !

There is a risk of stalled pre-term labor creating a lower supply later on. When mom was in labor the body may have started to go into lactII and without further expression the milk supply starts to dwindle and involution can occur before baby is really born. did speak on this and I will dig out my notes to see if any studies were referenced.

Cole

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reference, Ellen.

Dee Kassing

West and Marasco address this issue in making More Milk on page 127 under placental problems.

“Progesterone may be lower during a pregnancy with placental problems. In rats, this has caused premature labor and sometimes even the start of milk production before birth. Involution then began because milk was not being removed; the milk factory literally began to tear down before it even opened for business. There have been a few cases reported of women who had preterm labor followed by engorgement and milk leakage. Once baby was born , their milk did not come in at all.â€

Thank you and for your wonderful book.

Ellen Simpson,BS, IBCLC

Tampa FL

[Guest guest]

OK! Well this could explain what happened to my daughter.If you remember, her milk production naturally started to diminish during the first trimester of her 2nd pregnancy, but surged again around 7 months. Her older child was still nursing, so maybe THAT was what saved her - milk continued to be removed.

> Involution then began

because milk was not being removed;<normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.com

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West and Marasco address this issue in

making More Milk on page 127 under placental problems.

“Progesterone may be lower during a

pregnancy with placental problems. In rats, this has caused premature labor and

sometimes even the start of milk production before birth. Involution then began

because milk was not being removed; the milk factory literally began to tear

down before it even opened for business. There have been a few cases reported

of women who had preterm labor followed by engorgement and milk leakage. Once

baby was born , their milk did not come in at all.”

 

Thank you and for your

wonderful book.

Ellen Simpson,BS, IBCLC

Tampa FL

 

[Guest guest]

On the other hand, I would not be inclined to advise a mother to pump to preserve this milk production thinking that that would cause more labor and the baby being born too early.

What do you think?

And I can't imagine that a mother would think to contact a lacatation consultant with this unusual milk production.

Ellen in Tampa

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Norma RitterSent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Re: preterm labor and milk supply question

OK! Well this could explain what happened to my daughter.If you remember, her milk production naturally started to diminish during the first trimester of her 2nd pregnancy, but surged again around 7 months. Her older child was still nursing, so maybe THAT was what saved her - milk continued to be removed.> Involution then began because milk was not being removed;<norma

[Guest guest]

Actually, she did contact an LLL Leader, who contacted me, which is how we got to this discussion!

Dee KassingOn the other hand, I would not be inclined to advise a mother to pump to preserve this milk production thinking that that would cause more labor and the baby being born too early.

What do you think?

And I can't imagine that a mother would think to contact a lacatation consultant with this unusual milk production.

Ellen in Tampa